2018 marks the 241st anniversary of the American victory at the Battle of Saratoga and the 240th anniversary of the Franco-American Alliance. But was the victory that prompted the French to join the American war effort, truly the "turning point" of the War for Independence? National Book Award-winner Nathaniel Philbrick joins us to explore the two events he sees as better turning points in the American War for Independence: Benedict Arnold’s treason and the French Navy’s participation in the war. Show Notes: https://www.benfranklinsworld.com/208   Sponsor Links Omohundro Institute Babbel (Free Trial) Follow Us onTwitter: @BFWorldPodcast   Complementary Episodes Episode 026: Robert Middlekauff, George Washington’s Revolution Episode 037: Kathleen DuVal, Independence Lost Episode 071: Bruce Venter, Saratoga and Hubbardton, 1777 Episode 081: Don Glickstein, After Yorktown: The Final Struggle for American Independence Episode 122: Andrew O’Shaughnessy, The Men Who Lost America Episode 161: Smuggling and the American Revolution     Helpful Show Links Ben Franklin's World Facebook Page Join the Ben Franklin's World Community Sign-up for the Franklin Gazette Newsletter Ben Franklin's World iOS App Ben Franklin's World Android App