On The Gist, the White House PR machine. In the interview, John Carlin is a former Asst. Attorney General for the Dept. of Justice and former Chief of Staff to Robert Mueller, and his new book Dawn of the Code War tracks the rise of global cyber threats from Russia and China, and how our country is working to respond.  In the Spiel, the CPAC lets Trump get away with anything he wants. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices