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Lord of the Flies, Chapter 11 & 12: Questions about Key Phrases

1) On p. 208 luminous wall of his myopia On p. 214 Piggy peered anxiously into the luminous veil that hung between him and this world. Of course this describes Piggys poor vision without his glasses, but could it symbolize something more? Look at the underlined phrase: what separates Piggy from this world? Is this a description of Piggys present state, or is it foreshadowing his future demise?

2) On p. 210 (Piggy) You let me carry the conch, Ralph. Ill show him the one thing he hasnt got. On p. 211 (Piggy) Im going to him with this conch in my hands. Im going to hold it out. Look, Im goin to say, youre stronger than I am and you havent got asthma. You can see, Im goin to say, and with both eyes. But I dont ask for my glasses back, not as a favour, I dont ask you to be a sport, Ill say, not because youre strong, but because whats rights right. Give me my glasses, Im going to sayyou got to! How does Piggy expect Jack to feel about not possessing the conch? By not having the conch, what is it that Jack doesnt have? Look at the underlined phrases: what does Piggy mean when he says whats rights right?

(Now look at the following exchange from p. 217 Ralphs tribe has arrived at Jacks camp) (Ralph): You pinched Piggys specs. Youve got to give them back. (Jack): Got to? Who says? See the underlined phrase. How does Jacks sense of rightness contrast with Piggys? Remember that quote by John Dalberg-Acton. Here it is again: Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority, still more when you superadd the tendency and the certainty of corruption by authority. If Jack has absolute power, does he get to decide whats right and wrong? Does Piggys sense of right and wrong apply to him?

3) The following is not from the book. It is a brief description of the Italian political philosopher Machiavelli:
Niccol di Bernardo dei Machiavelli was a political philosopher and writer from Italy. A notable figure during the renaissance, he is remembered today as one of the founders of modern political science. Although the term Machiavellian is still attributed to his ideas, Machiavellis actual political theories, as a whole, were quite different from what the term suggests, as they were much more complex and encompassed a broader range of ideas. This disparity between the full range of Machiavellis political ideologies and the term Machiavellian (as it is used in the modern day) possibly has a great deal to do with the popularity of his best known political treatise , Il Principe. The books overall theme, which encouraged the use of immoral methods for achieving ones goals, defined the archetype for the political doctrines of such leaders as Frederick the Great, Napoleon Bonaparte, and Benito Mussolini. Needless to say, this model of political action has had a profound influence on Western civilization. The quote, The ends justify the means, is attributed to him (although he never actually said itthis may be a misquotation). In any case, this statement implies that seemingly unethical actions which give way to a positive result are not necessarily unreasonable. Another idea attributed to him, It is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both, seems to speak for itself. A third quote attributed to him is Politics have no relation to morals. The term Machiavellian may not be accurate and inclusive enough to describe Machiavelli himself, but it can be used to describe a person who is ambitious, but resorts to unethical methods to achieve his/her goals.

So.do you think Jack is a Machiavellian leader? He and his hunters bring his subjects meat. Do the ends justify the means? For him, is it better to be feared than loved? Do his politics have no relation to morals?

4) On p. 220 Samneric protested out of the heart of civilization. Oh, I say! -honestly! Look at what Samneric are saying. They seem like polite British expressions. Why is their protest coming out of the heart of civilization? Why now?

5) (On p. 222) In Piggys last words to the boys, he asks a question. What was the question? What was the answer?

6) On p. 222 The conch exploded into a thousand white fragments and ceased to exist. On p. 227 At length [Ralph] came to a clearing in the forest where rock prevented vegetation from growing. Now it was a pool of shadows and Ralph nearly flung himself behind a tree when he saw something standing in the centre; but then he saw that the white face was bone and that the pigs skull grinned at him from the top of a stick. He walked slowly into the middle of the clearing and looked steadily at the skull that gleamed as white as ever the conch had done and seemed to jeer at him cynically. An inquisitive ant was busy in one of the eye sockets but otherwise the thing was lifeless. Or was it? Where on the island do you think Ralph is? Is there any significance to the gleaming white of the skull? The conch is gone, but the pigs skull remains: how is this symbolic?

7) On p. 230 Memory of their new and shameful loyalty came to them. Eric was silent, but Sam tried to do his duty. You got to go, Ralph. You go away now He wagged his spear and essayed fierceness. You shove off. See? Explain the underlined phrase (remember that Sam and Eric are twinsthe difference in their reactions to this situation may be symbolic in some way). On p. 231 You two arent painted. How can you--? they made us. They hurt us Who? Jack? Oh no They bent to him and lowered their voices. Push off, Ralph its a tribe they made us we couldnt help it What connection with the Milgram Experiment or Stanford Prison Experiment can be seen here? Samneric are part of Jacks tribe now, but they remain unpainted. How might that be significant?

8) On p. 232 Again the stars spilled about the sky. Eric shook his head, earnestly. Listen Ralph. Never mind whats sense. Thats gone- What is Eric saying here? They hate you, Ralph. Theyre going to do you. Remember the Lord of the Flies said something similar to Simon (On p. 178 we shall do you. See? Jack and Roger and Maurice and Robert and Bill and Piggy and Ralph. Do you. See?) Looking back at what happened at Simon, it is easy to imagine the meaning of the phrase do you. Notice, however, that the Lord of the Flies mentioned that Piggy and Ralph would also be involved in doing him. Perhaps, this answers our question as to whether Piggy and Ralph were inside or outside the circle during Simons death. (One more thing) On p. 234 Roger sharpened a stick at both ends. What is being implied to Ralph when Samneric say this?

9) On p. 241 He jerked his head off the ground and listened. There was another noise to attend to nowa deep grumbling noise, as though the forest itself were angry with him, a somber noise across which the ululations were scribbled excruciatingly as on slate. He knew that he had heard it before somewhere, but had no time to remember. Now that you have read to the end of the story, it might be easier to imagine what this noise might have been. Why was he unable to remember what it was? Could there be any significance to the idea that the forest is angry with him?

10) On p. 248 Ralph wept for the end of innocence, the darkness of mans heart, and the fall through the air of the true, wise friend called Piggy. Ohwow! How nice! Ralphs actually kind of a sentimental guy when you think abouHEY! WAIT A MINUTE!

BUT BUT BUTWHAT ABOUT SIMON? DOESNT RALPH CARE ABOUT SIMON? HOW COULD HE FORGET ABOUT SIMON? I TAKE THAT BACK! RALPHS NOT A NICE GUY. HES A BIT OF A JERK! DONT YOU THINK? (Y/N?)
The officer, surrounded by these noises, was moved and a little embarrassed. He turned away to give them time to pull themselves together; and waited, allowing his eyes to rest on the trim cruiser in the distance. Why is the naval officer moved and a little embarrassed? Why does he turn away to give them time to pull themselves together? Have the boys really been saved, or has this experience on the

island simply given them a brief peek at a world this soldier knows only too well? In your opinion, are there inherent evils to human kind? Why or why not? Give examples if possible. (Yes, this question was on your homework sheet as well. The reaction of the naval officer interests me. Especially his embarrassment. What was he embarrassed about?) 11) Find a phrase or passage from Chapter 11 or 12 that you find interesting, unusual, or confusing. Write a question about that phrase/passage. Page number: _________ Key words, phrases, or ________________________________________________________________________ passages:

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12) Find a phrase or passage from Chapter 11 or 12 that you find interesting, unusual, or confusing. Write a question about that phrase/passage. Page number: _________ Key words, phrases, or ________________________________________________________________________ passages:

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