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CiteIn Part | of this series on dating younger women, we addressed some of the bigger
questions on the subject: do younger women actually like older men; are older
men who date younger women ‘dirty’; are younger women dating older men all
gold diggers?
Some of the conclusions we came to
include these:
* Age is nature's proving grounds for
male mate quality: a younger male is
selected on the merits of his promise
and potential; an older male,
meanwhile, is selected on the degree
of his proven, achieved success.
There's a huge difference between
exceptional older men, and
ordinaryolder men - the former
being most or all of fit, healthy,
confident, charismatic, high status,
and financially well-off; the latter
being none or few of these
* Awoman’s mating preferences are:
top - proven (exceptional) older
man;middle - unproven but promising,
younger man; bottom - unproven
and unpromising younger man (creepy
guy) and ordinary (unexceptional) older
man (dirty old man)
How to date younger
women, that is.
So, grab your walking
canes, gentlemen, and
let’s talk about the
mechanics of meeting, too).
dating, sleeping with,
and having relationships
with younger women
when you're an older man
(and a little bit about this
if you're a younger man,
* Because most older men fall into the
“ordinary older men” paradigm (ordinary
is the norm, after all), most older men
are not especially attractive to younger
women, thus the ‘dirty old man’ wrap
that some people are quick to label older
men interested in younger women with
Most real-life older man / younger
woman couples are actually two
decent, normal, attractive people
happy and comfortable with each
other and reasonably proud of each
other - not many are the rich guy /
gold digger couples modern popular
media seems so eager to paint them as
While the previous article was about
answering the higher level questions -
what's with the pushback in the West
against older men dating younger
women? Do women find older men
attractive or not? Why would a woman
choose an older man when she could
have a younger one? - in this article,
we focus on the how-to.
Oh, and if you haven't
read it yet, do check out
Part | here, as well:
“Dating Younger Women:
Does It Make You ‘Dirty’?”
Onwards, then.WHAT YOUNGER GALS FIND ATTRACTIVE
“OMG, he’s sooo sexy.”
“Ew, gross... he could be my father.”
The first comment is one I've heard
made repeatedly about Sean Connery
by teenage girls. Not 1960s James
Bond Sean Connery, mind you, but
present day in-his-80s Sean Connery.
The second comment is one I've heard
several times by teenage girls about
amorous men in their 40s or 50s.
What's the difference?
Well, Connery’s a celebrity, of course.
But this isn’t the only path to sexy-older-
man-dom - in the last article, | related
the tale of a 59-year-old Navy Captain
who did just fine with young, pretty,
vibrant 20-somethings. And I've known
my fair share of men in their 40s and
50s who regularly picked up and slept
with and dated women in their 20s -
some of them have even been students.
of mine I’ve watched firsthand pick up
girls in nightclubs and meet women on
streets; some are guys who post on the
discussion boards right here on the site
today.|’ve had girlfriends of mine -
beautiful, educated, charismatic
girlfriends in their 20s - tell me they'd
take a seasoned, attractive older man
over me. | had one remark - while
watching a recent Harrison Ford
movie, where the senior was at one
point in mortal danger - that she
wanted to jump into the movie, save
Harrison Ford... then leave me there
and bring him back out with her
instead.
| watched a gorgeous 28-year-old
ex-girlfriend of mine with a killer body
and a great career date her boss, a
bald, portly Frenchman in his 50s
who'd been divorced three times.
| listened as another girlfriend, 26 at
the time and with a strong career in
finance, told me about the man in his
40s she'd doggedly chased down for a
relationship until he’d turned her down,
telling her she was too young for him.
Clearly, at least SOME younger
women like older men.
But what do you have to do and who do
you have to be to make that be YOU?The Older Man Template
When most people think about older
men dating younger women, | think they
mostly either picture a suave, well-to-do
man in a suit jacket with a social
climbing young girlfriend, or some
creepy, predatory older man with
money to throw around dating an
obnoxious gold digger.
While these templates are no doubt
based on paradigms that do occur in
the world, | haven't met people who
much fit these descriptions
myself, and they're pretty poor stereo-
types for older man / younger woman
pairings in general.
In the real world, the kinds of older
men women find attractive are every
bit as diverse as the kinds of younger
men they do.
Here are the types of older men I've
seen various attractive younger women
fall for:
* The spunky, vivacious guy bursting
with energy and enthusiasm (that
Navy Captain | told you about)
* Smooth, charming, sexy, and
playfully flirtatious (Sean Connery fits
this bill, as do some of the older men
I've known who did well with women)
* Manly, brooding, and darkly
humorous (Harrison Ford goes
here - this one’s harder to get initial
attraction with sometimes, but
once a girl gets to know a guy like
this she becomes nuts about him;
George Clooney's somewhere in the
middle between this one and the
smooth, charming, sexy, flirty guy)
Naturally, different types of women
go for these different types
of men:
The spunky guy gets more submissive
women
* The smooth guy gets smooth women,
or sometimes brooding women
The manly, brooding guy gets
spunkier women
+ I'm certain there are other “tem-
plates” out there | haven't seen - had
| not known my old Navy Captain, for
instance, | wouldn't have thought that
“spunky” worked for an older guy (or
even that there WERE spunky older
guys, for that matter).
The point is though, there is not a
one-size-fits-all version of the sexy
older man you must be.
Instead, you have some options, no
matter what your base personality
may be.What the Science Says
Let's get into a bit more
research.
From “Winners, Losers,
and Choosers: A Field
Investigation of Dating
Initiation”, published in
the Personality and
Social Psychology Bulletin
in 1984 about video-
dating (a pre-Internet
dating service):
“Two studies on
interpersonal attraction
were conducted at a
commercial video-
dating service. Profiles
of members were rated
on age, physical
attractiveness, status,
humor and warmth. In the
first study, significant
differences were found
between popular and
unpopular males,
physically attractive
males being more
popular. Popular females
were found to be younger
and more attractive than
unpopular females. The
second study investigated
the dating choices and
rejections of twenty new
members. Higher status
and physical
attractiveness were
significant predictors of
males being chosen by
females, whereas the
only significant predictor
of females being chosen
by males was physical
attractiveness. Males
tended to choose and
reject younger women.
and females tended to
choose and reject older
men. There was also a
tendency for both sexes
to choose targets of
higher social desirability
and reject targets of lower
social desirability. We
concluded that the
male-older, female-
younger norm and
physical attractiveness
are important factors in
dating initiation
strategies for both sexes,
although females also
rely on status.”
Here it’s found that
women select for (at least
in video dating):
* Looks
* Status
* Older men (though how
much older is
unspecified)
Nothing earth-shatteringly
new there.
From “Partner
preferences across the
life span: Online dating by
older adults”, in the June
2009 edition of
Psychology and Aging:“Stereotypes of older adults as
withdrawn or asexual fail to recognize
that romantic relationships in later life
are increasingly common. The authors
analyzed 600 Internet personal ads
from 4 age groups: 20-34, 40-54,
60-74, and 75+ years. Predictions
from evolutionary theory held true in
later life, when reproduction is no
longer a concern. Across the life span,
men sought physical attractiveness
and offered status-related information
more than women; women were more
selective than men and sought
status more than men. With age,
men desired women increasingly
younger than themselves, whereas
women desired older men until ages
75 and over, when they sought men
younger than themselves.”
So here the conclusions relevant to
us are:
* Men offer status information more
than women
* Women seek men with status more
than men do
* Men seek increasingly younger
women as they age
* Women desire older men (though
again, no age specificity here)
Although | can tell you from skimming
online dating profiles (what the study
authors did here), while I've seen
women with more limited preferred age
spans, I've also seen plenty of women
with 25- to 30-year age spans for men
they're looking for (say, 25 to 50 or so) -
it’s not that uncommon to come across.
A more interesting finding from the July
2001 edition of Evolution and Human
Behavior is “Age preferences for mates
as related to gender, own age, and
involvement level”, with the following
findings:
“The present study examined desired
minimum and maximum ages for
mates across five different levels of
relationship involvement (marriage,
serious relationship, falling in love,
casual sex, and sexual fantasies)
comparing individuals of 20, 30, 40,
50, and 60 years old. Consistent with
previous findings, women preferred
partners of their own age, regardless
of their own age and regardless of the
level of relationship involvement.
Men, on the other hand, regardless of
their own age, desired mates for
short-term mating and for sexual
fantasies who were in their
reproductive years. However, with
regard to long-term mates, men
preferred mates who, although
younger than them, were sometimes
above the age of maximum fertility.
Explanations for these findings are
discussed.”According to this research:
« Women desire partners their own
age
* Men desire short-term partners of
reproductive age
* Men desire long-term partners their
own age
The bullet about women preferring
partners their own age contrasts with
the earlier research, and with what I've
seen myself - this survey largely seems
to be self-reported, so that might be
down to the difference between what
women Say they want vs. actual
real-world preferences (something
we'll talk about in just a bit when we
talk about women being reputation
conscious and worried about what
people might think).
The more interesting notes here
are older men’s preferences for
filings with and fantasies about
reproductive-aged women, but for
commitment they select women their
own age. My guess would be a fling
with an older woman doesn’t provide
much reproductive value (i.e., she’s
likely to be infertile), but when you
want a companion around for the
long haul, you probably want someone
you're able to relate with and connect
to as much as possible - and that’s
probably someone with a similar level
of life experience to you.
Now here’s the most interesting chunk
of research of all: from a 1985
edition ofThe Journal of Social
Psychology comes “Ratings of Physical
Attractiveness as a Function of Age”:
“Holmes and Hatch (1938) theorized
that physical attractiveness is related to
erotic desirability and to biological
superiority with the result that through
selective breeding, the species, Homo
sapiens, is improved. Elaborating this
theory, Symons (1979) suggested that
over the life span of a single individual,
the correlation between physical
attractiveness, erotic desirability, and
biological superiority would ensure that
the individual would have children only
during periods of superior fitness.
He also suggested that physical
attractiveness is more important to
males in selecting sex partners than
it is to females. To test the theorizing
of Holmes, Hatch, and Symons, it was
hypothesized that following puberty a
negative relationship would be found
between an individual’s age and
ratings of physical attractiveness
by judges of the opposite sex.
Furthermore, the relationship would
be more negative for ratings of
women by men than for ratings of
men by women.The negative
relationship was found for ratings
of women made by American men (n
= 40) but not ratings of men made by
American women (n = 40).”So, the researchers went in hypothesizing
that age leads to a decline in one’s
physical attractiveness as one
advances in years, and that this decline
would be steeper for women than for men.
What the researchers found was that,
while the decline in physical
attractiveness for women as rated by
men existed, men’s physical
attractiveness ratings as judged by
women did not go down at all as
they aged.
Now isn’t that interesting.
When | had a long-running debate
before with a friend of mine about
older men’s desirability to younger
women, the crux of his argument was,
“Women want young hot men, because
older men are ancient and ugly.”
Apparently though, women themselves.
beg to differ.
Silverback Theory
In the previous article, |
mentioned how the only
men | really see as tough
competition anymore
when | encounter them
vying for a woman’s
affections are attractive,
put-together, exceptional
older men. When I’m up.
against these men, | lose.
I look un-suave by
comparison.
Doesn't matter how
smooth, slow, or mature
lam. A suave older man
still has me beat. | don’t
know if it’s life experience,
or more years in seduction,
or simply the magnetic
appeal of a stand-out
older man, but | don’t like
having to compete against
a guy like this, and when |
roll with a guy like this, it’s
one of the very few times
the lead female of any
pairs or groups we meet
goes for someone else
(him) instead of for me.Women are attracted to the guy in
charge. And when you put a 30-year-old
guy next to a 50-year-old guy, it isn’t the
30-year-old guy who strikes you as the
one in charge.
| think of this as being rather similar to
how things function mating-wise for
gorillas.
You see a band of gorillas, and it’s a
family group of females and children,
led by one dominant male: a silverback.
The silverback is a mature, older male.
He’s big, he’s strong, and he’s sharp -
he knows how to maintain control of his
group and keep it his.
If you didn’t know better, you might
think a younger gorilla would be able
to take his band away from him - the
younger gorilla is more energetic, he’s
hungrier, he’s youthful.
You'd think he’d be able to take on a
silverback and win.
But he can’t. He loses when he tries.
Humans aren't gorillas, of course. A
male gorilla has a comparably slower
path toward maturing into dominant
silverback material than a male human
does to reaching proper adulthood. The
advantage age brings is not quite as
extreme in man.
But even in humans - from everything
I've seen - there doesn’t really appear
to be anything more attractive to a
‘woman than a stand-out, exceptional,
attractive, high status older male.
The silverback takes all comers, and wins.
HOW TO DATE YOUNGER WOMEN
The biggest part of dating younger women, of course, is the same as dating any kind
of women: having your fundamentals tied down tight.
That's things like:
* Your fashion / hairstyle / facial hair / body
* Your body language / nonverbal communication / facial expressions
* Your sexy vibe / sexual tension / general sexiness
* Your conversational ability / deep diving / emotional connecting
Your ability to lead women / take the reins / handle logistics... basically, everything we talked
about in “How to Attract Women:
The Guide.”
Those are all the things we teach
you to do all over this site, in the
of it already.
to keep in mind.
programshere, and on the discussion boards.
If you've been reading this site, you've got 95%
However, there are a few other considerations
Pressure on Younger Women to Conform
One of the key things
standing in the older
man’s way, when it comes
to dating younger women?
Status, reputation, and
social pressure.
Women - especially
young women, frequently
enmeshed with large,
fluid groups of
opinionated friends -
are extremely status
conscious, and retain
reputation management
as perhaps their
foremost social priority.
Make a girl potentially
look bad, and you will
be thrown under the bus
faster than you can say,
“What just happened?”
... EVEN if she liked you
and found you attractive.
Because there is a lot of
public sentiment in the
West regarding older men
interested in younger
women as ‘dirty’ right
now, and younger women
interested in older men
as ‘gold diggers’, even
though most younger
women don’t actually
hold these views, they
will fear their friends will
when being approached
by an older man around
their social circles.
What ends up happening
much of the time when a
girl is approached by an
older man while with her
social circle in the West
is this:
* Older man approaches
younger woman in front
of her friends
* Younger woman
panics internally;
thinks, “Oh no; what
if my friends think I’m
a gold digger, or into
dirty old men?!”
Younger woman
rejects older man to
ensure she maintains
her social status;
gossips to her friends:
“Can you believe
that? He's old
enough to be my
father!”
This reinforces to the
group that older men
are ‘dirty’ and need to
be rejected by any of
the group’s members
on said older men’s
approaches
The larger and more
cohesive the girl group,
the stronger this effect is.But much of it is group-
based; the effect goes
away rather fast when a
group disbands or a girl
stops associating with a
tight-knit group of judg-
mental (or imagined to be
judgmental) friends.
That is to say, if you meet
an 18-year-old in high
school with her group of
7 besties, even if you're
attractive and she might
otherwise like you, you're
walking into a bear trap as
an older man and will
easily be eviscerated.
Conversely, if you meet an
18-year-old in college when
she’s just recently arrived
and doesn’t know anyone
yet and there are no
suspected social
repercussions for her
actions (she is anonymous),
and you're attractive and
she likes you, there’s a
good probability things go
quite well.
Therefore, if you’re an
older man who likes
younger women, avoid
approaching large,
cohesive groups whenever
and wherever possible.
If you're a younger man,
your odds are a bit
better... but you are STILL
a lot more likely to get
‘thrown under the bus by
a girl in a tight group than
a girl you approach who is
alone or with a sole friend.
The rule of thumb for older
and younger men alike,
then, but especially older
men, is this: approach girls
by themselves or with but
one friend as your
preferred choices.
The girl with 2+ friends
in-tow is less and less likely
to be receptive, because
she’s too worried about
her reputation and too
uninterested in however
attractive you actually
would be to her in another
situation.
Of course, if you see a girl
you really like, and won't
have a chance to meet her
in more favorable
conditions, give it a shot
anyway. The worst she can
do is laugh you off... but
she'd do that to anybody in
that situation.Approaching Younger Women
Goes without saying, but same as any
other advice on this site - don’t bother
making excuses for yourself, qualifying
yourself, or anything - it just makes it
weird.
That means, don’t try to explain why
you’re approaching her, as if she’s
going to think, “Isn't this guy too old to
be talking to me?!” Just act like it’s the
most normal thing in the world, and
she’s a lot more likely to follow your
lead. Eventually, you'll get comfort-
able enough with approaching younger
women that it WILL be the most normal
thing in the world.
Sprezzatura becomes ever more
important as you age - a young man
chasing a woman around is bad; an
older man chasing a woman around is
worse. Obey the Law of Least Effort.
It’s crucial to coming across as a
stand-out older man rather than an
ordinary or washed up one.
Is there a specific type of opener to use
with younger women?
No, not really.
As usually, situationally relevant
openers will get you into more
interactions, more smoothly, and
provide an easy entry into indirect
game, while direct openers are more
polarizing, and will lead to strong.
disapproval from some women and
strong instant attraction from others.
Worth noting here: women will use the,
“Aren't you too old for me?” or, “Aren't |
a little young for you?” excuse to
reject you when you are older than
them and they are younger than you
and they are not interested. Don’t take
this at face value, any more than you
would a woman telling you that she has
a boyfriend or isn’t really dating right
now or what have you. It’s just an
excuse. Women will pick the first
excuse at hand to reject you with when
they aren't interested... but the real
reason for the rejection is that they
simply aren't interested. They almost
never actually know why they aren’t,
though.
I've several times seen younger women
reject a man with an, “I’m a little too
young for you, don’t you think?” excuse,
only for them to later end up with a man
older than the one they rejected (usually
one more charming than the first).
Don't take it to heart when you get
the “you're too old for me” rejection; it
just means you were doing general at-
traction things wrong, not that you’ve
crossed some age threshold whereby
you are no longer attractive to any
women of her age bracket anymore.Differences Between Older Guy and Younger Guy Game
Depending on your age, you'll treat
younger women a little bit differently.
Generally speaking, younger
Western women like being teased.
They respond well to it. They enjoy
having a man gently nudge them in the
ribs and delicately pop their egos.
Teasing properly is an easy way of
showing a younger woman you aren't
putting her on a pedestal. The great
masses of younger and older alike
men are guilty of this; and usually, both
younger and older men need to tease
somewhat to differentiate themselves
from the kiss-ups and supplicaters.
Regardless of your age, it’s important
to keep this teasing light and not too
personal. You don’t want to send her
into auto-rejection; you just want to
tease her enough that she says, “Oh,
good... he can be normal around me
and isn't going to be tip-toeing around
because he thinks I’m young, hot, and
amazing.”
Also regardless of your age, you will
show interest in her potential, asking
her things about what she does with
her time, what she'd like to do, why she
does the things she does and not the
things she would rather be doing, etc.
- everything we talked about in those
conversation articles (if you need more, see
“Conversation Example” and “What
Does She Want? The 8 Things You Must
Ask Her”).
However, when you're younger and
talking about yourself, you'll want to
allude a bit more to qualities that paint
you as wild, rebellious, adventurous,
and ambitious - travel, sports, martial
arts, getting arrested, starting a
business, etc.
When you're older, you want to allude
more to things that imply you've “made
it.” Not showboating, mind you; not
even explicitly stating what is so great
about you. But just implying via your
communication that you are comfortable
living the life of someone who's long
since achieved success, and that is
what you're accustomed to.
Here's an example:
Her: ... and if I'm really lucky, someday
I'd like to start my own dance school.
You: That's fantastic. Dance is a
beautiful form of art.
Her: How about you?
You: Oh, me? Well | actually helped a
friend set up her dance school, get it
running and off the ground... that was a
long time ago though.Her: No, | mean, what do you do?
You: Ah. Well, | travel, admire art,
and try to sample every reasonably
good restaurant in whatever city I’m
spending a fair chunk of time in. I'm
a bit of a foodie... sometimes | have
to hit the gym pretty hard after a big
meal to not end up with a beer belly.
Your body doesn't bounce back as
fast when you're my age as it does
when you're younger, you know.
Her: Oh. Well, what | meant was
what do you do for work?
You: | have a small company that
does software implementations.
Nothing terribly huge, but it’s
enough for me to have my freedom.
Her: That's so cool; | really want to
have my own business.
You: What’s stopping you?
Her: Well |...
You can't play the mysterious/
traveling unemployed adventurer
card as an older man; once you're
past 33 or 34 or so, | think you've
pretty much got to be a business.
owner (best), retired (second best,
or maybe tied for best), or
reasonably high up in whatever
you do for work.You also must be very wary of being
the older “adventure” traveler; a
woman is excited to meet a young
man traveling the world for the sake
of adventure, but when she meets an
older man who's traveling, he must
have a purpose for being there.
Which brings us to a core difference
between younger and older men:
younger men are expected to be in
search of a purpose; older men are
expected to have one.
Everything about you, as an older
man, must communicate purpose,
certainty, and self-assuredness. You
must know not just the what of the
things you do, but the why.
You're not in Eastern Europe because
you're a sex tourist. You're there
because you're opening up a new
branch of your bank from back home
in Switzerland.
You're not in South America be-
cause you love Latinas. You're there
because you're researching for the
Great American Novel you're writing,
and your main character is an
immigrant from Brazil.
You're not in East Asia because
you've heard Asian women adore
Western men. You're there because
a Korean company brought you in to
spearhead their marketing
advertisements and Britons have
a reputation for well-run advertising
campaigns.
This doesn’t just extend to travel,
either; it extends to everything. You
can get away with anything you want
as an older man - even those things
most older men can't - if you have a
good reason.
You're in a nightclub? Surely you
must be chasing after young women
- another dirty old man. Unless it’s
because you're there to entertain a
business client who happens to love
nightclubs... or it’s your buddy's
bachelor party (for his second
wedding)... or you’re old friends
with the manager of the club and you
wanted to pay him a visit. Or maybe
you just spent a great deal of time in
nightclubs as a youth and you still like
to come by and have a drink now and
again for old time’s sake.
You're approaching women on the
street during day game? Well, you
were on your way to the office, and
you just couldn't help it: she’s
beautiful; you had to meet her.You quickly see how have” as a younger chasing around after
important it is as an older man meeting younger pretty young girls like
man to have a social life women, butit’sa must he’s 22 years old. The
that’s structured around — have for older men suave older gentleman
your professional meeting them. One of is only there because
endeavors, or other the big differences his mission has taken
core callings in life. between a dirty old man him there - and while
and a suave older there, he’s just happened
Having reasons for gentleman is that the to notice this beautiful
things is a “nice to dirty old man is just girl.
Notes on Dating Younger Women as a Younger Man
Some of the younger readers
on this site have asked about
how to do better with younger
women as a younger man,
since many younger women
seem to go for men at least a
few years older than them.
Others have remarked that
they don’t even like younger
women, and find them
annoying or trite, preferring
women older than
themselves.
In fact, depending on how
old you are, even as aman
you'll frequently tend to
prefer women older than
yourself, at least until your
early twenties or so:“The tendency for women to prefer
older partners, and for men to prefer
younger partners, has frequently been
explained in terms of socialization
to American sex-role norms
specifying that men must be older and
more powerful than their female
partners. However, recent cross-
cultural data reveal this same pattern
in all societies studied, a finding more
in line with an evolutionary life-history
model. The evolutionary model
assumes that what is attractive to
males is not youth, per se, but
features related to fertility. This
perspective leads to a hypothesis
concerning the development of age
preferences among adolescents:
teenage males should violate the
normative pattern shown in adult males
and express interest in females older
than themselves. 209 teenagers (103
males, 106 females) ranging in age
from 12 to 19 were surveyed
regarding the age limits they would
find acceptable in a dating partner, as
well as the age of a dating partner they
would find ideally attractive.Although
teenage males were willing to date girls
slightly younger than themselves, they
indicated a much wider range of
acceptability above their own ages,
and also reported that their ideally
attractive partners would be several
years older than themselves. Preferences
of teenage females were similar in
pattern to those of adult females,
ranging, on average, from their own
age to several years older. When
combined with the consistent adult
data obtained from numerous cultures,
these data suggest the utility of viewing
the development of sex differences in
mate preference from the perspective
of an evolutionary life-history model.”
That's from “Adolescents' Age
Preferences for Dating Partners:
Support for an Evolutionary Model of
Life-History Strategies”, a 2008 article
in the journal Child Development.
Both younger men and younger women
prefer older partners, according to the
study.
Personally, | did better with women
in their mid-20s and up until | was
about 26 or 27... it wasn’t until then
that | started consistently sleeping with
women in their late teens and early
20s. We simply didn’t have much to talk
about, and weren't really what one
another was looking for.
If you're a younger guy interacting
with younger girls, be aware that
younger women can seem jarring
and hard-to-get because they don’t
have the smoother, better-calibrated
social responses that more
experienced older women have...
instead, younger women are rough
around the edges. They will be:* Seemingly rude sometimes when
they're just trying to tease or flirt
with you
* Looking aloof and disinterested
because they're very focused on
saving face
* Complaining and objecting, even
about things they may want to do
* Trying to treat you like you're being
weird even when you're not
This is partly why some guys do better
with younger women as they get more
experienced with women - when you
don’t know where the lines are
because you're not socially
experienced enough yet, it’s hard to
know if her reaction is correct or
off/fake.
Once you know though, it’s easy to give
a girl the skeptical look until she drops
the act and goes along with you.
Think of it like this: younger women are
all talk and little walk (and often don’t
know what they want), while older
women don't talk as much but are a lot
firmer and more straightforward in what
they want and communicate (or don’t).
With younger women, keep the
conversation to a minimum, keep things
moving, and do not brag. Bragging is
bad with older women; it communicates
a guy is insecure and needs to build his
status up. But it does something much
worse with younger women: it makes you
unrelatable.
Most of the things men brag about,
younger women cannot relate to,
because they haven't had those life
experiences yet.
All you do with bragging around younger
women is alienate them and blow
yourself out.
Relationships with Younger Women
Here’s one | don’t have
quite as much
information on, but I'll
relate some anecdotal
data.
When | see older men
take younger long-term
girlfriends and brides,
the cutoff age seems to
be about 27 as the
minimum. | noticed it
when | was pretty young;
all these rich older men
would always be marrying
27-year-old women.
“What's wrong with a
20-year-old?” | used to
think as a teen. “If | was
some rich old guy,
that’s who *1* would
marry! 27 is so old!”
| think the reason for this
is, again, relatability; a
woman who’s a long-term
relationship partner of
yours is someone who's.
going to be very close with
you, someone you're go-
ing to spend a lot of time
with, someone who will
influence you quite a bit,
and someone you'll talk
with more than almost
anyone else.And the fact of the matter
is, if you're an exceptional
older guy who's trying to
do things with his life, a
20-year-old kid just isn’t
going to have a lot of
perspective yet to be able
to contribute a whole lot
to your mission.
I'm positive this is why
older men might like
sleeping with much
younger women, but will
usually select as their
more permanent mates
women who aren't quite
the youngest they could
get.
It's because, as much fun
as that 18-year-old with
her tight body was... she
just doesn’t have much to
say when you want to tell
her about how things are
going with your business,
and that complicated
merger you just pulled off,
and whoa, look what your
competitor is doing, isn’t
that crazy.
Unless you want to be her
second father in the rela-
tionship (and | doubt you
do), you'll almost certainly
end up dating a woman
in her mid- to late-20s or
up when you're already
somewhere in your 30s,
40s, 50s, or beyond.
It’s an Older Man’s Game, Too
One final piece of research to strip you
of any last remaining reservations you
might've had about dating younger
women as an older man. This one’s
from Research on Aging, and it’s entitled
“The Nature and Functions of Dating in
Later Life.” Here’s the abstract:
“Using the National Survey of Families
and Households, logistic regression
analyses were conducted to identify
factors that are significant predictors
of dating for persons aged 60 years and
older. Stepwise regressions were also
conducted to determine the effects of
dating on the psychological well-being of
older daters. The strongest predictor of
the propensity to date in later life is
gender, with men significantly more
likely to engage in dating. A number of
gender differences were noted as they
relate to the likelihood of dating. In
particular, age and social role
involvement tend to influence older
men’s likelihood of dating, while health
and mobility were significantly
associated with dating among
older women.”
Older men (60+, in this study) are
significantly more likely than older
women to be dating.
Of course, if older men were dating older
women, those numbers would have to
be equal... but they aren’t.They’re dating younger women.
A good chunk of them, anyway.
Biggest influencers on older men’s,
dating were age (realistically-speaking, a
60-year-old is probably more likely to be
dating than an 80-year-old) and social
role - another way of saying social status.
That is, if you want to know which older
men are most likely to be dating, just look
at whether they're ordinary men with
mid-level social status... or exceptional
men with exceptional status.
Younger women are there and
available to you as an older man, if you
want them, and if you’re willing to work
on yourself hard enough to become
what they want.
So get out there and show those
whippersnappers how it's done.
-by Chase Amanteny
A
The 9 Male
Identities and How
They Affect You with WomenOne of the pieces |
promised sometime back
was a write-up on
identities, and the role
these play in your social
interactions, seductions,
dating, and relationships.
Identity is a huge,
important topic with
vast implications for
how you move through
because it’s difficult to
conceptualize, and more
difficult still to nail down.
Nevertheless, having a
grasp of what your
identity is today, and
what you'd like it to be
tomorrow, helps shine a
little more light on the
direction you're headed
in socially, and being
aware of the different
allows you to accurately
pinpoint where you
might be going right
with a given identity,
and where you may be
going wrong.
So, join me on this
journey through the
looking glass, and let's
examine the sometimes-
strange and always
society, but it isn't one
that’s much talked about
gradations of identity
interesting topic of your
social identity.
Sim —_
Your identity is, plainly and simply, what
you identify as and aspire to be, and
what other people pinpoint you as.
identifying as and aspiring to be,
and what they stereotype you as.
To best understand how important
identity is, we must first understand
stereotyping, and the role this plays in
our social dynamics. Stereotyping is a
powerful, dominating social influence
that impacts you far more than you're
probably aware it does.
And if you aren't actively cultivating an
identity that affords you stereotyping
you can best use to your advantage,
you may be subject to the whims of
negative stereotyping based on less
consciously-chosen identities - maybe
even identities that, instead of you
choosing for yourself, other people have
chosenfor you.
Stereotyping: The Social
Amplification System
ster*e*o*type
n
1.A conventional, formulaic, and
oversimplified conception, opinion,
or image.
2.One that is regarded as embodying or
conforming to a set image or type.Stereotyping is a mental
shortcut used by all
human beings to place
new individuals they
meet into neat little
boxes for choosing how
to deal with and behave
around those individuals.
A lot of people get
upset about stereotyping,
because stereotypes
are often heavy-handed
and inaccurate, and are
sometimes based on very
incorrect information
- however, because they
are a core mental
shortcut, no amount of
pouting and screaming
is going to do anything
about them. Even the
people who rail against
stereotypes themselves
make ample use of
stereotypes.
Some common examples
of stereotypes are:
* Men are more violent
than women
* Women are cattier and
more gossipy than men
« White people are
boring and good at
making money
* Black people are
confident and
aggressive but more
prone to criminality
* Asian people are all
smart, quiet, passive
nerds
* Americans are dumb,
fat, arrogant, and
uncultured
British are cultured,
unattractive, and stiff
* French are eloquent,
attractive, snobbish,
and picky
* Latins are unscrupulously
sensual individuals
in constant search of
pleasure
..and so on and so forth.
Obviously, these
stereotypes are nowhere
nearuniversally
accurate... in fact, many
of them may be quite off
the mark for a large
portion of the people
they aim to neatly wrap
up and pack away in
a box.
But if they're so often
wrong, why are they so
damn pervasive?
A simple look at your
close friends, colleagues,
family members, and
paramours probably
shows you (assuming you
don't live in a totally
homogenous community)
plenty of exceptions to
the usual stereotypes
who don’t fit that
rule - your friend of XYZ
race who's nothing like
the stereotype for that
race; your ex-girlfriend
from ABC country who
has only the slightest
resemblance to her
country’s stereotype, and
you really have to try hard
to make that box fit.
Yet, when you meet NEW
people from XYZ race or
ABC country, you
stillstereotype them
regardless. How come?
The reason why is
because your brain is
constantly looking for
ways to both keep you
away from dangerous or
unfruitful situations and
to drive you toward
helpful or fruitful ones.
That's the reason for the
unconscious reaction
and stereotype Jesse
Jackson, the prominent
black rights activist,
admitted to realizing he
held some years back:“There is nothing more painful to me...
than to walk down the street and hear
footsteps and start thinking about
robbery, then look around and see
somebody white and feel relieved.”
It isn’t that Jackson believes that all
black people are dangerous. It’s that
he believes he’s much safer walking
through a bad part of town if he turns
around and finds a random white per-
son behind him than if he turns around
and finds a random black person.
The clincher is this: if Jesse Jackson
turned around and saw someone he
knew, it wouldn't matter if the person
behind him was black or white. Be-
cause he'd know this person, and he'd
know he was in no danger. In fact, he’d
be even happier to see an acquain-
tance, black or white, than he would a
random white stranger.
Stereotyping is used almost entirely in
our assessments of those we don't yet
know, to help us decide on the fly how
we need to respond to this person:
Is this person potentially a physical
danger - might he try to hurt us or rob
us?
Is this person potentially a social
danger - will being seen with him hurt
our reputations?
Is this person potentially a social
boon - will having him in our life make
our lives better in some way? Might
he, then, become a valuable ally?
* Is this person a potential mate - is
she someone we could take to bed
and be happy with?
Those are just a few things we're
assessing on the fly about someone
new we've just encountered, and while
they're often wrong, the mind isn’t
focused on precision - it’s focused on
avoiding potentially very bad situations
and embracing potentially very
good ones.
e.g., seeing an angry-looking guy
walking toward you and being afraid of
him and getting away is probably silly
9 times out of 10 - there may well be
a good explanation why some random
guy is walking in your direction
looking angry most of the time (he
wants to fight that person just in front
of you; he’s just having a bad day, and
is walking home; etc.), but 1 time out of
10 you get attacked for no reason, and
maybe even killed.
Conversely, seeing a beautiful woman
looking excitedly in your direction, and
going over to meet her, may in fact not
lead to anything substantial a huge
chunk of the time - maybe she was just
staring off into space thinking good
thoughts, or maybe it was actually your
buddy whose attraction she was trying
to attract. Yet, the chunk of time you
take action and end up with her in your
bed makes all the times you took action
and got nothing largely irrelevant.Stereotyping is focused on
maximizing opportunities and
minimizing threats.
How Do Stereotypes Affect Us?
You're constantly stereotyping
everyone you see - “He’s fat, so he
must be lazy,” “She's got a tramp
stamp, so she must be a slut,”
“He's wearing glasses, so he must
be smart,” “She’s dressed quite
elegantly, so she must be a real
lady” - based on any number of
different little tells they give off.
You may be right some of the time,
or even much of the time, but you
almost certainly aren't right all of
the time.
But your stereotypes are not what
we're concerned with here (and if
you want to get rid of the worst
negative effects of these, read the
article on actor-observer bias);
rather, what we’re concerned with is
how are others’ stereotypes of YOU
affecting you?
Because | can guarantee you, the
effect on you is quite large, and it's
almost certainly larger than you
know.
From “Automaticity of social
behavior: Direct effects of trait
construct and stereotype activation
on action”, published in the Journal
of Personality and Social Psychology
in 1996:“Previous research has
shown that trait concepts
and stereotypes become
active automatically in
the presence of relevant
behavior or stereotyped-
Sroup features. Through
the use of the same
priming procedures as in
previous impression
formation research,
Experiment 1 showed
that participants whose
concept of rudeness was
primed interrupted the
experimenter more
quickly and frequently
than did participants
primed with polite-related
stimuli. In Experiment 2,
participants for whom
an elderly stereotype
was primed walked more
slowly down the hallway
when leaving the experi-
ment than did control
participants, consistent
with the content of that
stereotype. In Experiment
3, participants for whom
the African American
stereotype was primed
subliminally reacted with
more hostility toa
vexatious request of the
experimenter. Implications
of this automatic behavior
priming effect for
self-fulfilling prophecies
are discussed, as is
whether social behavior
is necessarily mediated
by conscious choice
processes.”
Restated:
* People who felt viewed
as rude behaved more
rudely
People who felt viewed
as elderly walked more
slowly
People who felt viewed
as “stereotypical
African Americans”
became more impatient
and more aggressive in
response to annoying
questions
In other words, how
you feel people view
you actually dictates,
to some extent, your
actions and behavior...
even to the point of be-
coming ruder or more
impatient or walking
more slowly down the
hallway because you
think you're old.
From “A model of (often
mixed) stereotype
content: Competence
and warmth respectively
follow from perceived
status and competition”,
another Journal of
Personality and Social
Psychology paper, this
one published in 2002:
=“Stereotype research emphasizes
systematic processes over seemingly
arbitrary contents, but content also
may prove systematic. On the basis of
stereotypes’ intergroup functions, the
stereotype content model hypothesizes
that (1) 2 primary dimensions are
competence and warmth, (2) frequent
mixed clusters combine high warmth
with low competence (paternalistic) or
high competence with low warmth
(envious), and (3) distinct emotions
(pity, envy, admiration, contempt)
differentiate the 4 competence-warmth
combinations. Stereotypically, (4)
status predicts high competence, and
competition predicts low warmth. Nine
varied samples rated gender, ethnicity,
race, class, age, and disability
out-groups. Contrary to antipathy
models, 2 dimensions mattered, and
many stereotypes were mixed, either
pitying (low competence, high warmth
subordinates) or envying (high
competence, low warmth competitors).
Stereotypically, status predicted
competence, and competition
predicted low warmth.”
The net finding here was:
* People viewed as high status
(superiors) are perceived enviously
as high in competence and low in
warmth; conversely,
* People viewed as low status
(subordinates) are perceived with
pity as low in competence and high
in warmth
For our purposes, we can extrapolate
this to mean that if someone views you
as low status relative to herself, the
main problem you have is demonstrating
to her that you “get it”, and are not
some naive putz; alternately, if
someone views you as high status
relative to herself, the main problem
you have is demonstrating that you are,
in fact, a warm person, and not some
holier-than-thou high roller who's out of
her league.
In other words, the research on stereotypes
ties back quite nicely to what we talk
about with attainability and auto-
rejection. Pretty cool, right?
And here’s one more study, this one on
the difference between the stereotyping
of boys and that of girls, published in
the May 2010 volume of Sex Roles:“Eagly’s social role theory (Eagly and
Steffen 1984) was tested examining
children’s gender role stereotypes via
implicit information processing and
memory measures. We explored
whether children’s occupational
stereotypes were less restrictive for
females who engaged in
counterstereotypic occupations
(Mary-Doctor) compared to males
who engaged in counterstereotypic
occupations (Henry-Nurse). Fifty-seven
American eight- and nine-year-olds
from a southwestern city were orally
presented with stereotypic male and
female names paired with masculine
and feminine occupations and asked
to create sentences using the
name-occupation pairs. We conducted
analyses of the created sentences as
well as tested children’s memories for
the various pairings. Consistent with
social role theory, the findings revealed
that children’s gender role stereotypes
were more restrictive for males, than
for females.”
If you read the news media, you may
be aware of the constant clarion call
for Western women to throw off their
restrictive gender roles (as well as for
Western men to “man up” and... toe the
party line for their own gender roles),
but in fact it’s the boys, not the girls,
with the more restrictive roles here.
Now, | didn’t find any research that was
quite as cut-and-dry as this research for
boy and girl stereotypes, though there
are some interesting papers if you
want to read more here:
+ Patterns of Gender Role Conflict
and Strain: Sexism and Fear of
Femininity in Men's Lives: a
discussion of the gender conflict in
men's lives as a result of men’s
fear of being stereotyped as
feminine
Gender Role Conflict and Depression
in College Men: Evidence for
Compounded Risk: a study found a
higher risk of depression among men
hewing closely to more traditional
male gender roles
Confirming Gender Stereotypes:
A Social Role Perspective: a study
finding that men in moments of
high emotional vulnerability, men
retreat to “safer” male gender roles,
while women in moments of high
emotional vulnerability make no
effort to retreat to female gender
roles
Anyway, the point of all this is not
to play “who's the bigger victim”;
rather, it is to point out that men
are every bit as “restricted” by their
stereotypes than women are -
more so, in fact.
In other words, people stereotype men
harder, and men get stuck deeper in
their chosen identities... or, the ones
chosen for them by others.Identity: Your Escape Hatch from
Stereotypes
There is, however, a way around all this
stereotyping. Its something researchers
from Indiana University refer to as an
“escape hatch” - a way of pushing the
eject button from a given stereotype-
identity mix.
That “escape hatch” is merely selecting
a different identity to associate oneself
with.
From “Capitalizing on Multiple Social
Identities to Prevent Stereotype Threat:
The Moderating Role of Self-Esteem”,
published in the February 2010 volume
of the Personality and Social
Psychology Bulletin:
“One troubling aspect of membership
in a stigmatized group is that negative
stereotypes about the group's
performance affect one’s personal
performance (i.e., stereotype threat).
Women who are made aware of the
negative stereotype that “women are
bad at math” perform worse than
women who are not made aware of this
stereotype. However, women can use
an “escape hatch” to avoid stereotype
threat by identifying with another
social identity (i.e., college students)
that has positive stereotypes for math
performance and having greater
feelings of self-worth. This research
shows that women who had greater
self-esteem and were presented with
an alternative, positive social identity
were buffered from stereotype threat by
eliminating working memory
decrements responsible for poor math
performance. Women lower in self-
esteem, however, did not benefit from a
positive, alternative social identity when
it was available and thus fell prey to
stereotype-based working memory and
performance decrements.”
The interesting thing to note here is
that the women in the study who were
low in self-esteem were unable to
switch identities, and thus really were
“stuck” in whatever stereotype others
used to pigeonhole them with. High
self-esteem women, conversely, were
able to shut down negative stereotypes
by switching to an identity with more
positive stereotypes.
On this site, we call this frame control,
and it’s essentially down to how good
you are at imposing your view of
yourself, others, and the world on the
people around you, versus how good
they are at doing it to you. The more
dominant individual tends to win here
- Or, you might say, the individual who
more strongly subscribes to his own
view of the world, in which he makes
the rules - the individual with the higher
self-esteem.
So, the bad news is, if you're low in
self-esteem, you're probably not ina
place yet where you'll be able to
effectively switch identities and adopt
strong positive stereotypes at will.The good news is though, if you’re high self-esteem, you very likely can - and even
if you're lower in self-esteem, you can still chip away at them gradually and adopt
enough of the traits and qualities of a separate identity that people begin to treat
you that way and you begin to feel it and believe it yourself.
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Before we get to what the
9 different identities are,
| want to touch on three
(3) different aspects of
identity that impact your
results with women, and
just socially in general:
*Gradation
* Combination
Vibe
Gradation is where you
fall status-wise in a given
identity. For example, a
wildly famous and
well-liked rock star who's
had a long and productive
career would be near
about the highest grade
you're going to get for an
artist; whereas, some guy
just starting out playing
music who can’t even cut
achord on a guitar is
sitting at the low end
gradation-wise when
it comes to artists. For
our purposes, we'll re-
fer to gradation as the
“strength” of your identity
- an identity with a higher
grade is a stronger one.
Combination is the
combination of identities
you hold - the more
identities you hold of
similar strengths, the
harder it is to box you into
any one identity (although,
one very strong identity
and a number of weaker
ones will still find you get-
ting stereotyped by the
strong identity - e.g., if
you're a tennis star but
you also enjoy writing and
have a small clothing label,
you're still going to get
viewed as an athlete, simply
because your one very
strong identity eclipses
all the rest). There are
both advantages and
disadvantages to having,
no clear #1 identity.
Vibe is the general air
about you above and beyond
your identity, including
things like:
* Your sexual vibe
* How smooth you are
* Any edge you have
* Your degree of warmth
and humbleness
* Adevil may care
attitude
* Anice guy attitude
* Abad boy attitude
* Ajerk attitude
«and the like. Attitude
has only a little to do with
identity - while there are
always some attitude
expectations that go
along with identity (e.g.,
an athlete identity comes
with a certain
expectation of “bad boy”
or “jerk”; meanwhile, a
regular guy identity
carries a certain
expectation of warmth,
humility, and
approachability),
none of these are given -
you can have a sexy
rebel, and you can also
have a very un-sexy,
creepy one.So, don’t think that choosing a
particular identity lets you off from
having to maintain the right air about
yourself - building the right vibe is every
bit as key here too.
The 9 Male Identities
The 9 male identities we'll cover here -
which all have innumerable sub-i
dentities that we won't spend much
time on (e.g., artist -> writer, painter,
singer, actor, sculptor; athlete ->
sports player, bodybuilder, runner,
swimmer, mountain climber; etc.) -
cover the full gamut of what you'll
normally see socially. There are other
identities we won't include here - holy
man, crazy person, vagabond, male
prostitute, etc. - but I'm assuming we
don't have a whole lot of guys reading
the site who'd fall into, or have much
interest in falling into, one of these
other groups.
Our 9 identities, in no special order,
are:
1. Rebel
2. Student
3. Tough
4. Regular Guy
5. Social Butterfly
6. Businessman
7. Intellectual
8. Athlete
9. Artist
Let’s have a look at each one.
Identity #1: The Rebel
The rebel is most easily defined as.
the guy who is “fighting the system.”
He marches to the beat of a different
drummer. He does things his own way.
He doesn’t care about The Man - and
The Man sure doesn’t care about him
(he believes). The rebel holds a lot of
contempt for anything remotely
mainstream, and indeed, he positions
himself precisely as everything that
mainstream society is not.
Some of the positives of the rebel
identity are:* He’s cool
* He’s independent
* He's interesting,
intriguing, and different
* He’s not swayed by
social pressure
* He fits very easily into
the bad boy mold
* He usually exhibits a
range of Byronic
characteristics
Some of the negatives of
the rebel identity are:
* He’s pessimistic
* He’s an outsider
* He’s sometimes looked
down on by more
socially plugged-in
women
* He has a harder time
breaking into many
social circles
* Authority figures tend
to like making life
difficult for him
A good way of thinking
about the rebel’s
strengths and weaknesses
is that his strengths are the
things he's picked up from
operating independently
on his own, while his
weaknesses emerge any
time he needs to use
“The System” - that is,
organized groups of other
people with their own
rules and routines he
hasn't bothered to learn
or adopt.
Some of the more
common variants of the
rebel include:
* Punks / goths / emos /
hipsters
* Solo inventors / mad
scientists
* Entrepreneurs
* Hackers
* Loners
The rebel typically has
an easier time
sexualizing himself and
being appealing to
women than a variety
of other male identities,
mainly because he offers
something - an escape
from the mundane - that
most of the other
identities do not. Also,
because he’s so used to
operating “outside the
system”, the rebel is one
of the least likely
identities to struggle
with behaving in ways
mainstream society tries
telling him are “bad” -
like sleeping with lots of
girls and moving fast with
them and not worrying
a whole lot about
committing to them
unless he really, really
likes them and wants to
do this.
Identity #2: The
Student
The student is anyone
who’s in the process of
learning something new.
The easiest examples of
students of course are
those in their primary,
secondary, or tertiary
educations; however, you
can be a 75-year-old
martial arts or vocal
student, as well.
The student identity is
one most typically of a
certain degree of
subservience and
inelegance; you are there
to do what your
teachers tell you to do,
and because you are not
yet very learned, your
performance and execution
in any number of things
is often sloppy and
leaving something to
be desired.Some of the
positives of the student
identity are:* He's actively upgrading himself
* He's perceived as intelligent / curious
* He’s someone with “potential”
Some of the negatives of the student
identity are:
* He’s a follower, not a master
* He’s a “bookworm’” - rather than
doing something, he reads about it
* He’s viewed as inexperienced and
unworldly / unwise
* He's rather boring and ordinary;
unexceptional
The student almost has a childlike
identity, where people look favorably on
him as someone who can do “anything”,
someday... but he just isn’t there yet.
Today, he must study; tomorrow, he can
begin thinking about doing something
with what he’s studied.
Some of the more common variants of
the student include:
* School student
* Specialty student (musical
instrument, martial art, etc.)
* Nerd (kind of a “super student”)
Because of their childlike qualities,
students can often be difficult to
sexualize. Male students tend to
struggle with trying to create a sexual,
masculine identity, just as female
students can really struggle to be
taken seriously as fully grown, sexual,
feminine creatures, and not just pupils.
Nerds fall on the extreme end of the
student identity - their grade is “strong”
in student - and for this reason have
an even more childlike air about
themselves, and tend to be stereotyped
as almost infantile in their behavior
(temper tantrums, childlike fascination,
dislike for or suspicion of girls - watch
any “nerd” movie and you'll see these
stereotypes).
For this reason, even if you are a
student in some way (and most of us
are - heck, if nothing else, you're
reading this website, which probably
means you're a student of seduction
and social dynamics), you’re best
served adopting a different identity,
at least for when it comes to meeting
women.
Identity #3: The Tough
The tough is a fellow whose primary
identity is as a hard ass. He’s
aggressive, he’s imposing, and you
do not want to get in his way... or on his
bad side. He’s one not to be trifled with.
Included in the tough identity are
everyone from common criminals at the
low end, to firemen, soldiers, and police
offers at the nobler end.
Some of the positives of the tough
identity are:He’s high on perceived physical
dominance - one of the key attraction
signals
He usually commands a fair bit of
respect - even if some of it is grudging
He frequently has a solid social circle
of friends like him and women who
like him
His identity is usually very clear and
very stable, because it’s so far
removed from other identities
Some of the negatives of the tough
identity are:
« Many women are more intimidated by
him than attracted to him
* His work is usually physically
demanding and/or, and leaves him
too exhausted or too busy much of
the time to maintain solid long-term
relationships
* His proneness to violence, bravado,
and taking things into his own hands
frequently lead to run-ins with the
authorities, legal problems, and
sometimes jail time, in addition to
fights with other toughs, unless he
is one of the authorities (and
sometimes even then)
Because his identity is so clear, and
his social circle so set, if he wants to
switch to a different identity - say,
student, or athlete - this can be quite
difficult, and he can face a good deal
of negative social pressure from
those around him
The tough is typically fine and does
well enough with women so long as he
sticks to “his” turf, what he’s familiar
with, and what he knows. Toughs who.
want to spread their wings and mingle
with other crowds though can find this
difficult, as most other types of people
are cautious around their hard,
aggressive demeanor and frequent
inability to fit in with more “cultured”
crowds. That said, well-dressed, more
presentable toughs who've taken the
time to cultivate a degree of some of
the other male identities can still find a
selection of women outside their usual
circles that find them exciting,
“dangerous” in an electrifying kind
of way, and may even prefer them to
the more boring, “less masculine” men
those women are around the majority
of the time.
Some of the more common “disreputable”
variants of the tough include:
* Thug
* Biker
* Redneck
* Drug dealer
* Gang member
Some of the more common “respectable”
or “noble” variants of the tough include:
* Some manual laborers
* Fireman
* Police officer
* SoldierThe tough, like the rebel,
has an easy association
with edgy, masculine,
bad boy qualities, and is
one of the more easily
sexualized identities. In
fact, he’s a lot more likely
to be viewed as mas-
culine, aggressive, and
dominant than either the
rebel or the athlete is,
and is probably the
strongest of all the identities
in these respects. On
the downside, he's very
frequently so strong in
these areas that he
becomes intimidating or
unrelatable to most of
the women outside of
the circles he travels in;
but so long as he sticks
to the women who have
a “thing” for guys like
him, he'll usually have no
problems whatsoever.
Identity #4: The
Regular Guy
Ah, the poor regular guy.
He goes about his life,
just following the beaten
path, not trying to cause
any ripples or do anything
too crazy, just like almost
everybody else, but he
just can't get no love. All
the regular girls around
him - and, just like most
guys are regular guys,
most girls are regular
girls - want someother
kind of guy... not him. The
best way of describing
the regular guy is “vanil-
la” - he’s just bland. He's
normal. He just... kinda
there. No “passions”, no
real drive, no motivation -
he's not trying to change
the world. He just wants
to live a good enough life
and not worry about all
that pointless wall-
climbing and barrier-
breaking all those crazy
people TV seems to
glorify keep doing.
Some of the positives
of the regular guy
identity are:* He’s very relatable
* He’s not crazy or a misfit
* He doesn’t have to worry about being
judged as “too extreme”
« He doesn't polarize women, so there
are no women who really dislike him
* Some of the negatives of the regular
guy identity are:
* He’s just like everybody else - he’s a
dime a dozen
* There’s not much about him that’s all
that interesting to women
* It's hard for him to meet new women
because he won’t break social
convention and cold approach, and
his social circles usually tend to be
quite limited
« He doesn't polarize women, which
means not only are there no women
who really dislike him, but also that.
there are no women who really like
him, either
The regular guy is the guy who's a
student when he’s in school, and a
regular guy once he’s out, and that’s
pretty much all he ever is for his entire
life. He frequently finds women frustrating,
and is prone to being a nice guy and
ending up in the friend zone, since
it's hard for him to differentiate
himself from other men and he ends up
trying to compete by showing women
how kind, thoughtful, and stable he is
- things that 25 other men competing
for the same women he’s competing for
are competing with him on as well.
Some common variants of the regular
guy include:
* Family man
* Average Joe
* Office workers and middle managers
* The “down on his luck” guy on
unemployment between jobs
* Line workers and non-tough manual
laborers
The regular guy is probably the
hardest of any of the identities to
sexualize, outside of perhaps some
sub-identities like the nerd. That’s
because he just doesn’t have much
going on ordinarily that lights up any of
women’s sexual interest triggers. The
good news for the regular guy is that
because he really doesn’t have too
strong of an identity, it’s usually pretty
easy for him to begin adopting another
identity - one that lends itself more
readily to becoming sexually attractive
to women, like the athlete, the artist,
or the rebel. If he does this, the regular
guy can often still maintain the things
he already has in his life, while
adding an entirely new dimension
of good things.
Identity #5: The Social Butterfly
The social butterfly is a real connections
guy. He’s always in good spirits, knows.
a ton of different parties he can invite
you to, and has dozens of people he
wants you to meet. The social butterfly
lives for people - meeting people, get-
ting to know people, talking to people,
entertaining people.Some of the positives of
the social butterfly
identity are:
He’s friendly, social,
and gregarious
He’s optimistic,
upbeat, and
inspirational, with
contagious energy
He is always deeply
plugged into the social
circle, and is never an
outsider
He meets lots of new
people, all the time...
he’s never at a loss for
new acquaintances
Some of the negatives of
the social butterfly
identity are:
* He’s often too busy
networking to focus
much on building very
deep connections
* He can have difficulty
Zeroing in on one par-
ticular person in social
situations
* People who aren't
butterflies themselves
often consider him
shallow and trite
* His social life is a
revolving door... new
people come in, but old
people go out, too, or
at least quickly move
to positions of increas-
ingly little prominence
in his life
You can most easily think
of the social butterfly as
“someone who needs
to constantly be making
new connections.”
Connections for himself,
and connections among
the people he knows -
little puts a smile on the
social butterfly’s face
more than connecting
two people he knows
whom he think will be a
good fit. The person at
the center of the
majority of social circles
is a social butterfly
of some sort of another -
he's just naturally a guy
who likes bringing people
together.
Some of the more
common variants of the
social butterfly include:
* Party host / emcee /
promoter
* Marketer / sales pro-
fessional
* Leader of the group or
life of the party
* “That guy” who loves
talking to everyone and
laughing and having a
good time constantly
The social butterfly is
somewhere in the
middle of the pack when
it comes to how easily
sexualized his image is...
because he doesn’t zero
in on people by default,
it’s challenging for him to
build the strong sexual
tension that comes from
an intensely focused
gaze on and immersion
in another person, and
the identity of “social
butterfly” itself inspires
more friendly “gee, he’s
a swell guy” feelings in
women more than it
does any burning,
passionate, lusty
desires. However,
because the social
butterfly is so socially
experienced and so
comfortable with people,
it's often easy for him
to adopt a more sexual
identity to combine with
his fluidity with other
people that allows him
to very easily rack up a
number of lovers in a
short span of time.Identity #6: The Businessman
The businessman is all about work,
efficiency, and production. He doesn’t
care so much for social trifles, like
the butterfly does, nor is he all that
concerned with doing a lot of status
jockeying or “proving himself” like the
roughneck and the rebel, respectively.
He also isn’t content living an ordinary
life like the regular guy - the very idea
sounds intrinsically boring to him.
Instead, the businessman wants.
success - usually defined as money -
and he wants a lot of it.
Some of the positives of the
businessman identity are:
He has a killer instinct that makes
him good at seizing the things he
wants
He doesn't dilly-dally, and creates
opportunities to move as efficiently
as he can
* He commands respect, mostly due to
his effectiveness and no-nonsense
demeanor
He's down-to-Earth, blunt, usually
honest, and straightforward
He has a masculine aura about
himself, and is generally regarded
as powerful
Some of the negatives of the
businessman identity are:
* He can be too boom-boom-boom,
and scare off those who prefer a
more relaxed pace
He's often quick to write things off
that aren’t panning out fast enough -
sometimes leading to missed
opportunities
His lifestyle is generally one that’s
more stressful than most of the other
identities’
His relationships can be short-lived,
due to his uncompromising and
impatient nature
He can be off-putting to more
sensitive individuals who prefer
more indirect communicationA good shortcut for wrapping your mind
around the businessman identity is
thinking of the businessman as a “let's
make it happen” kind of guy. He’s fo-
cused on concrete, tangible results,
and sees everything else as a waste of
time. This can make him less
appreciative of some of the finer
things of life, and he has a difficult
time connecting with or maintaining
relationships with people more
interested in smelling the roses than in
bulldozing them to put up a strip mall.
Some of the more common variants of
the businessman include:
+ Politician
* Rising star (in business or politics)
* Upper management / executive
* Small business owner (non-lifestyle
business)
* General, admiral, or police chief
* Flimflammer or conman
The businessman is somewhat easily
sexualized, due mainly to his
masculinity and “take-no-prisoners”
attitude. However, he’s normally very
difficult to relate to for a large segment
of the population, and his demeanor
can screen out a number of women
who might otherwise find him
attractive, but instead find him overly
terse and abrasive. If the businessman
can adopt another attractive but more
relatable identity in addition to his
businessman identity - e.g., artist,
athlete, etc. - he can take the edge off
some of this harshness and lend
himself the more “human” feel that’s
lacking when he’s nothing but a
results-oriented human steamroller.
Identity #7: The Intellectual
The intellectual lives in a world of the
mind: ideas, philosophy, experiments,
tactics, strategy, theories, hypotheses,
arguments, and debates are his forte.
The intellectual is a true “brains over
brawn” type - he outmuscles the
competition with thoughts and words
more than fists and fury. At the top end,
intellectuals command some of the
most respected (and almost
untouchable) positions in Western
society.
Some of the positives of the intellectual
identity are:
He's viewed as a leader / authority
due to high perceived levels of
competence
His life is generally relatively stable,
with stable career paths as a thought
leader
He carries a certain mystique that the
other identities frequently lack
He's one of the best of the identities
at securing a “legacy”
He's often “eccentric”, a close cousin
of the rebel’s independence
His otherworldly identity affords him
much freedom from social pressureSome of the negatives of
the intellectual identity
are:
* He can seem
unrelatable to less-
educated women
He can have a difficult
time breaking free from
the stability he creates
for himself
His need for intellectual
dominance often leads
to falling outs with
those who don't “toe
the party line” he sets
out for them intellectually
He can be viewed as
overly arrogant and
haughty by some of
those who do not share
his love for ideas and
the mind, and these
may actively taunt,
challenge, or work
against him
It's easy to think of the
intellectual as a man
who seeks to express his
masculine dominance
through the intellectual
domination of others - he
is right, and everyone
else is wrong. Intellectuals
establish their identities
by winning academic
“fights” and debates with
challengers, using their
ideas as the proof of
their strength as men.
Some of the more
common variants of the
intellectual include:
* Teachers
* Professors
* Researchers
* Academics
* Nonfiction writers
* Documentary makers
* Movement leaders
* Public speakers
* Preachers
The intellectual
frequently finds himself
having a not-so-difficult
time being sexually
appealing to a large
chunk of women -
typically who find his
large degree of frame
control and strong
certainty about his
purpose and the world to
be very compelling and
things that easily position
him as an authority
figure. Intellectuals very
frequently find
themselves in positions
of leadership - whether
commanding the
public spotlight as a
prominent thought
leader, or commanding a
group of unruly 6-
year-olds as a
kindergarten teacher.
Because of this, they get
very accustomed to
telling others what to do,
and very used tobeing
challenged - and
overcoming those
challenges. If the
intellectual really wants
to up his results with
women though, he'll take
some time to cultivate
another, more mundane
identity - say, athlete,
rebel, or even a touch of
regular guy - to allow him
to more easily relate to
the population at
large - and to those
women who might
ordinarily be intimidated
by his normally towering (it
seems to them) intellect.Identity #8: The Athlete
The athlete, like the tough, relies on his
brawn most of all, though
unlike the tough, who uses his brawn in
the wilds of day-to-day life, the athlete
more typically channels his resources
into excelling in the more rule-based
and restricted realm of competitive
sports. This actually makes him more
approachable to a larger swath of wom-
en than the tough is - he more closely
fits the “safer”, rule-oriented life a regu-
lar girl knows - though he sacrifices a
degree of edge in order to get this (and
you will often see many athletes trying
to mimic tough behavior in order to try
to attain some of the tough’s rawness -
though they never quite get there).
Some of the positives of the athlete
identity are:
* He's big, strong, and manly - things
very attractive to women
He’s physically dominant - another
major attraction trigger
He’s typically quite confident; espe-
cially if he’s remained an athlete for a
number of years, that’s probably be-
cause he’s been enough of a winner
to keep at it
He’s used to working with and (often)
commanding a team of similarly
powerful, more dominant men, which
makes dealing with most women
fairly easy for him
He offers a “bad boy experience”
without the danger of a true tough or
rebel
Some of the negatives of the athlete
identity are:
* He's viewed as less intelligent, which
can cause some women to write him off
* He lacks the raw edge of a true tough
and some rebels - his brawn is used
only in constrained / artificial / hobby
environments, rather than in the real
world in dangerous situations as a
way of daily life
* He lacks the “pulling off impressive
things with his mind” factor of the
businessman, intellectual, and artist
* He lacks the good-with-people
persona of the social butterfly
Essentially, you can think of the athlete
as a one-trick pony; his trick is that he’s
big and strong and reasonably
successful at sports. This is both his
blessing and his curse; there are a
number of women who find him exciting
for this, but often just for brief flings,
and he will very often have a good deal
of trouble holding onto women in rela-
tionships.
Some of the more common variants of
the athlete include:
* Bodybuilder
* Sports player
* Fighter / boxer / martial artist
* Mountain climber
* Swimmer
* Runner
* JockThe athlete usually has an easy time
being sexually appealing to women; he
has raw masculine sex appeal as a
result of both his physique and his
prowess at vanquishing other men or
obstacles, as well as the show of
discipline it takes to reach these
heights. Where he’s lacking is in
relationship staying power, and in
consistently landing more educated /
ambitious women; for these, he’s best
served cultivating the businessman
or intellectual side of his personality,
which gives him a very strong one-two
punch of brains and brawn.
Identity #9: The Artist
Rounding out our identities list is the
artist, that creative soul who finds joy in
bringing new works of beauty and
profundity into the world. The artist
holds an almost mythical status cultur-
ally, as someone out there, magical,
and sometimes all but driven by
demons.
Some of the positives of the artist
identity are:
* He’s creative - something that’s very
closely tied with sexual attractiveness
* He walks his own path and shrugs off
social norms, like the rebel
* He’s uncommon - women don’t meet
artists every day
* He’s intriguing; what is he creating?
Why is he creating it?
* He's seen as eccentric, and is able to
get away with many things that would
be seen as odd or incongruent for
men with other identities - e.g., pull-
ing women he's just met into unusual
places for fast sex
Some of the negatives of the artist
identity are:
* He’s something of a social dropout -
some women are put off by his lack
of “real world” credentials
* His eccentricity can be a turn off to
certain sections of women
* He's often poor, with an unstable life,
which can make long-term
relationships more difficult* He can sometimes be dominated by
toughs, businessmen, and other
identities who consider his talents
effete and “not worth doing” (though
he may just slip the girl his number
regardless when these men aren't
looking)
The artist is the dreamer of this bunch
of identities. He’s an idealist, and longs
for a “perfect” world where things are
exactly as he thinks they should be. His
art is an effort to render that world and
merge the real world with the dream
world, and for this reason he’s
something of a captivating person -
he's someone many women feel they
can lose themselves into, caught up in
his dreams and carried somewhere
faraway and fantastic.
Some of the more common variants of
the artist include:
* Singer
* Painter
* Novelist
* Sculptor
* Composer
* Architect
* Musician
* — Director
* Dancer
* Actor
The artist is usually easily sexualized,
due to the intrigue he builds around
himself. Intrigue combined with the
clarity of his artistic vision makes him a
captivating potential lover for a
number of women, looking for an
escape from their dreary lives. Like the
athlete though, the artist suffers from
poor long-term prospects, and can also
be written off by certain types of
women - in this case, those who view
art as “not a real contribution / not
something worth doing” - and, for the
broadest desirability among the largest
set of women, along with the best
long-term prospects, he’s best taking.
on a secondary identity with something
both a little tougher and a little more
material - the businessman and the
rebel identities are usually the best
complements to artist here.
Selecting Your Identity(ies)
How do you pick the right identity for
you?
Well, you'll of course want to select
an identity that appeals to your
natural inclinations. If you love competitive
sports, you'll probably be a lot happier
as an athlete than as an artist. If you
love efficiency above all else, you'll be
much better suited to a businessman
identity than a social butterfly one.
But once you have your identity
established, and it is a firm one -
that is, you have a high grade in it
and are “strong” in that identity -
you'll usually be best served
developing a secondary or tertiary
identity to your primary identity that
is complementary of it.Having a complementary identity to
your primary one allows you to
compensate for some of the weaknesses
of the primary identity, and makes you
better able to connect with a broader
array of women and people.
Identity is a powerful phenomenon. Our
behavior and perceptions of ourselves
are shaped to a large degree by how
others think of us and how they treat
us. Yet, we can shape how others think
of us and treat us by adopting different
identities, and acting in ways or
communicating about ourselves in ways
that lead to those others then treating
us differently.
There's a great deal you can do with
controlling how others view and interact
with you, and identity is one of the
biggest parts of it. So choose yours.
wisely - its ripple effects will be felt in
every aspect of your daily life, both now
and in years to come.
Always,
ChaseWhat
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When
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BackA reader writes in:
| found something strange. Every time
I'm having long interactions with girls in
pickups on the streets, | bomb. | mean,
she doesn’t text back. It reminds me
of Murphy's Law: If everything cant go
wrong, IT WILL. | recently approached
10 women of which gave me attraction
signals. They touched me, called me
cute, called me the most interesting
person, smiled, was high energy, stayed
20 minutes with me, and asked me to
text them. | had good interactions with
them and was smooth and confident. |
bonded with them and made plans to
see them. They never texted back and I
don’t know why.
~
| did another experiment where | cut my
interaction short about 3 minutes and
asked for the number. Most of the shorter
ones agreed on dates and texted back,
and note, most of them gave me negative
signs first. Is it because women use guys
that they give fake “attraction signals?”
Why do they seem so much into me at
first but never bother to actually get into
contact again? It happens over and over
so much that when a girl give me signals
that's too good to be true,| can almost
predict that | will never hear from her
again and I'm always right. | know it
sounds counter-intuitive but | think the
women who give you immediate signals
are maybe time waster”? And what is
your thoughts, do you find the same?
aBrings back memories.
When | stepped up my
activity levels in 2006,
| noticed an odd trend:
the women | spoke to for
longer periods of time,
and seemed more into
me, ended up being less
likely to ever return my
phone calls or texts.
How bizarre, | thought
to myself. This certainly
doesn’t make much
sense.
But the numbers didn’t
lie. So, | did the only
logical thing | could think
to do: | worked to shorten
the time I'd spend with
girls whose phone
number | intended to
grab, and only spend a
longer time with girls |
intended to take home
that day or night.
Almost overnight, the
problem of girls not
texting back and girls
not calling back all but
disappeared. But it still
left me scratching my
head a bit... why did
spending more time with
a girl and having her
come to like you more
lead to her falling off the
face of the Earth and not
returning text and calls
later?
Things That Lead
to Unreturned
Texts and Calls
Think of a girl you met
that you really liked, that
you maybe spent 30 or
40 minutes talking to the
first time you met her.
She was charming,
beautiful, exactly your
type.
Got her in your head?
Good. Now, if you can,
remember how you felt
the first time you called
her or texted her. Felt
pretty darn nervous,
didn't you? Heck, maybe
you didn’t even text or
call her at all. Hopefully
that wasn’t the case, but
there are plenty of guys
out there that’s happened
to... it happened to me,
too. In fact, | was
thisclose to never
calling the girl who went
on to become my
girlfriend for 2 1/2 years;
it was just too nerve-
wracking to dial her number
on the phone. | almost
didn’t talk to her again after
the night | met her.
Guess what? Yep — that
happens to girls, too.
It isn’t always the reason,
and in fact it’s only one
of four main reasons
we're going to take a look
at that can cause a girl
to not reply to your text.
messages or phone calls.
But girls being nervous
and putting pressure on
themselves is one of the
Big 4 Reasons why they
don't respond.
It's probably the most
surprising reason for a
lot of guys, so that’s why
| chose to lead off with it.
But there are three other
reasons, too. The four
reasons women might
not reply to you are:1. Too much anticipation / nervousness:
if a girl really likes you, she might be
too shy to reply to your correspon-
dence. She might end up putting a
great deal of pressure on herself to do
well with you — or be too jittery to type
out a reply or answer your call. She
may really, really want to talk to you,
but never end up doing so.
2.Too much of a state-shift: this one’s a
little tougher to get your mind around
at first, but if say you met a girl and
both of you were really excited and
high energy, and you call her back lat-
er or text her when she’s feeling much
lower energy than when you meet
her, she's likely to look at that ringing,
phone or blinking text message and
think to herself, “I can’t talk to him
right now; it's too much work.”
3.A bad ending: “The end is important in
all things.” So goes one of my favorite
quotes from the Hagakure. Even if you
had a dynamite opener and the major-
ity of the interaction went swimmingly,
if the ending goes awkward or stale,
the chances you never hear from a girl
again go up dramatically.
4.She wasn't all that interested: this
happens sometimes to everyone. Re-
sist the temptation to attribute every
non-responder to a girl not really being
interested, as most guys do - it’s quite
often one of the other three reasons
that's too blame. But sometimes it’s
really is just that she wasn’t as inter-
ested as she'd seemed. It happens.
Of these four reasons, #3 and #4 are
the most easily correctable.
#3 -— bad endings — gets fixed when you
get your closing streamlined. Check
out the post on getting a girl’s phone
number and get more practice going for
closes and you'll begin to self-correct
and get smoother and more natural
with time.
#4 — getting contact info from girls who
actually aren't all that interested — gets
fixed as you become more attuned to
the signals women are giving you. You
become more aware of how to tell a girl
is interested in you, and you plainly and
simply stop taking contact info from
girls you know aren't all that interested.#1 — girls being nervous to respond be-
cause they really like you — is tougher
to change. You have to do a lot to mini-
mize nervousness and maximize com-
fort while you're there in-person with a
girl, and you've got to make sure that
the text messages you send afterward
or voicemails you leave are exceedingly
warm and friendly. She needs to feel
comfortable responding to you, above
all.
#2 — girls experiencing a state-shift be-
tween how they felt when they first met
you and how they feel when you call or
text — is the hardest to change. It entails
actually changing the way you interact
with women when first meeting them so
that when they receive your text or call
later, in a calmer, lower energy state,
they'll be a lot more likley to respond.
That can mean you need to completely
overhaul you interactions with women,
especially if you’re an energetic, high
energy guy.
Fortunately, there’s a shortcut around
all of these learning curves, however;
and that shortcut is...
Spend Less Time
with Women
and Get Them
Rsponding More
Sounds counterintuitive,
| know, but bear with me
on this one.
Spending less time with a
woman before you go for
her contact information
does something very special
for you. It allows you to
screen out the women
who aren’t all that into
you, while simultaneous
eliminating the bad
things — girls getting so
into you they're too afraid
to talk to you later, girls
getting used to talking to
you in a too-different
energy level from their
usual energy level, and
bad endings to your
interactions with girls.
Said differently, it's about
as close to a cure-all to
the problem of a girl not
texting back or a girl not
calling back or answering
as you can get.
The women who seem
very interested in you on
first meeting you aren't
time-wasters, and they're
not being insincere. They
really may enjoy the long
conversation they have
with you — or maybe
they're trying to be polite
and sociable with
someone who's taken
the time to come up and
get to know them. But,
it’s vitally important to
note the difference
between reactions and
results. The two are
different thing altogether,
and reactions can
oftentimes be misleading.A girl's smiling and laughing and chatting
with you are mostly reactions. Her
moving somewhere with you, or giving,
you her number readily when you ask
for it fast - those are a few examples of
results. Results are what you ultimately
need, regardless how promising (or not)
your reactions may be.
When you ask for the number fast, you
get a real result. The girls who like you
will happily give theirs; the ones who
aren't so inclined will hesitate, or refuse
outright.
Very fast way of sifting the wheat from
the chaff.
When a Girl Doesn’t Text
Back
But, let’s say regardless how your
interaction went when you met the girl
the first time, you ended up with her
number, but now you've called or texted
her and she hasn't replied. What do to?
When a girl doesn’t text back or when
a girl doesn’t call back, the first thing
you want to do is not panic. It’s not the
end of the world, and it doesn’t mean
you've lost her for good.
It just means she hasn't gotten back to
you yet.
| once had an interaction with a girl
where | texted her the night | met her
and got no reply.
Then | called her a day later, and got no
answer. | shot her a text in lieu of leaving
a voicemail, and she texted back
apologizing for not answer but saying
she hadn't realized it was me.
A few days later, | tried calling her again.
Again, no answer. | texted her again, and
again she texted back later.
One week after first meeting her, | called
her. Again, no answer. | left a voicemail.
She called me back, complained that
she had nothing to do that night, and
l invited her over to have dinner and
drinks with me in my apartment, and a
few hours after she came over, | took her
as my lover.
Persistence. It's the difference between
the men who want it — and get it - and
the men who don't. | had a guy | was
mentoring who'd have women disappear
and act completely disinterested, but
he'd just persist relentlessly and
eventually women would reappear,
agree to meet up with him, and he'd
finally take some of them to bed.
Persistence via text or phone can work
wonders... BUT, it's quite important that
you persist in a cool, laid-back, socially
Savvy way, because there are allkinds of
wrong ways to persist, and men for some
reason are particularly good at finding
them. Don't fall into the traps that most.
men do of getting needy, whiney,
compalin-y, or pissed off at women for
not replying; that guaranteesyou don't
get a reply!a
Instead, here are some things to keep
in mind so that you're persisting in an
intelligent, attractive way that'll make a
girl far more likely to want to start
talking to you again:
* Don’t get mad or accusatory. Yes, it
may seem rude that she hasn't
replied, but... you’re a stranger! She
doesn't know you from Jack yet, and
doesn't realize what an awesome guy
you are. Getting mad is 100%
guaranteed to scare her off, so
a SS
refrain from anything like, “I don’t
understand why you're being so
standoffish.”
Don't get whiney. Just as bad as mad
is sad: whiney, complian-y men are a
huge turn off to every woman on the
planet. “I just want to talk to you — I'm
not trying to be too pushy, but blah
blah blah.” No. It isn't appealing
to you to get something like that from
a woman, and it isn’t appealing to
a woman to get something like that
from aman.DO be nonchalant.
“Hey Karen, figured I'd
drop you a line since
we haven’t connected
in a few weeks. Just
got back from the East
Coast and starting to
delve back into work
again... ugh. Hope life’s
been treating you
excellent... let me know
what's new with you! -
Chase” Treat the
situation as if no one is
to blame and the two
of you are just
reconnecting after a
little time being busy
with your own things.
If you have some hurt
feelings, stifle them;
phone calls and text
messages are not the
places to be airing
grievances or bandying
about bad emotions.
You want to be a
breath of fresh air; a
provider of good
feelings and peace.
That's the kind of thing
that will make a
woman want to pick
up the phone and start
talking to you, because
she probably doesn’t
get it anywhere else in
her life.
* DO refrain from being
overly entertaining.
“Just saw the most
amazing movie today!”
“OMG, think my head is
going to explode, you'll
never believe what just.
happened to me...!!!”
Anything like that is no
good. That kind of stuff
is okay — maybe — three
or four texts into a
conversation you're
already having with a
girl. But texting that to
open a text conversation
cold - as your text
opener — drips of tryhard
reaction-seeking.
Worse, in my experience,
it rarely works, and
when it does it gets
you attention from
girls who are curious
~ rather than girls who
are interested. Stick to
normal stuff and you'll
be fine.
Finally, don't be afraid to
give a girl a little time off
if she doesn't reply for a
while. My rule of thumb is
something like this:
* She doesn’t reply once:
give her a day of radio
silence.
* She doesn't reply twice
in a row: give her 2-3
days of radio silence.
* She doesn't reply three
times in a row: give her
a week of radio silence.
Then, if she’s still not
replying, you may want to
try something more bold
and experimental,
depending on the situation.
There’s no one-shot,
surefire way to reengage
a girl who isn’t responding;
it's going to vary enormously
depending on why she
isn't responding in the
first place.
If she’s too shy, a nice,
warm voicemail might do
the trick, or toning down
your texting if you're
coming across to
entertaining or too “loud.”
On the other hand, if it
feels like too much of a
state-shift for her, sharing
some more normal details
of your life and asking
her about hers via text
may turn out to be just
what the doctor ordered
for helping her to see you
as more “human” and
less a dynamo.It isn’t always possible to turn
things around when a girl doesn’t
text back... but sometimes it is.
And, if you do things right, and
you keep the time you spend
with a girl you’re going to grab
a number from to under 5 to 10
minutes, you might just find you
substantially increase your phone
number conversion rate... strange
as that may seem!
Always,
Chase Amante‘<
Why You Absolutely
Need to Assume Attraction
with WomenI've been seeing more of the writers
and senior members on the discussion
boards reminding guys that you must
assume attraction recently. This is one
of those things that comes second
nature when you're farther along the
path of doing great with girls, but can
be an odd piece of advice to encounter
when you're new.
“Assume attraction” is a necessary
ingredient in your seductions if you
want those seductions to get anywhere.
It’s what stops you from spending
endless time deliberating about
whether a girl is interested or not,
whether she likes you, and whether you
ought to advance things with her... or
not.
What happens is that most newer guys
do not assume attraction, and instead
spend their time looking for signs of
attraction instead (without being all
that adept at reading these signs).
They are waiting for women to signal
to them that they should move forward
with their seductions.
Yet, for similar reasons to what we
covered in “The Paradox of the Flirty
Girl” for why you shouldn't put too much
stock in flirtation, if you’re sitting there
trying to figure out if she likes you
before you do anything, you’re going
to fall flat.
You're going to miss out on 95% of the
women who really do like you.
Because most of the time, they're going
to be too busy being attracted to you to
worry about signaling to you that they
are.
One Thing It’s Safe to Assume
It's usually not good form to get in the
habit of assuming things... that’s
because much of the time, assumption
only leads to inaccurate beliefs about
the world.
However, there are some things you
pretty much need to assume, or you'll
0 crazy with doubt, hesitation,
indecision, and second-guessing.
One of these things you must simply
assume is there is attraction.
Why? Because most women just
aren't going to come out and tell you
they like you.
Some of them will give you hints. Some
of them won't. Some of them will hint
they like you when they really just want
you as a friend, while others will behave
indifferently toward you while secretly
burning with desire to be with you. If
you're waiting for women to tell you they
like you, instead of just assuming they
do, you're in for some very uneventful
days and evenings with them.Anumber of times | have
had the experience of
having women act bored
or disinterested around
me, or even actively telling
me things like, “I don’t
really like you,” or,
“You're not the kind of
guy | like,” yet within an
hour or two I’ve slept with
them. In the moment
when receiving the seeming,
-rejection, the thought
process | have is typically
like this:
1.“Whoa, that was
harsh... guess it’s
done, then.”
2. “Wait, she's still hanging,
around and not leaving,
though she keeps
VERBALLY being bitchy
and difficult.”
3.“Okay, I’ve got to just
assume she’s attracted
and that this snippiness.
is really just horniness,
and do my best to keep
moving things ahead
with her regardless.”
That's an extreme example.
And there's a difference
between a girl who rejects
you and who then
immediately creates
distance with you, than
one who says something
verbally dismissive while
still giving you her
attention, or only partially
turning away from you.
But there are plenty of
other times you'll do
well to assume
attraction too:
* See a pretty girl
walking down the
street? Assume she
will be attracted to
you- go say “hi.”
* Seems like the girl
standing a few feet
away from you is
tossing approach
invitations your way?
Assume that’s what
they are, because she's
interested - and go open.
Cute girl in social circle
cornered you to get you
into conversation?
Assume she’s
interested - and see
where you can take
things
You're stumbling all
over yourself with a girl,
but she’s still hanging
around and smiling?
Assume she likes you
too much to care - and
get moving faster with her
Going to text a girl and
ask her for a date?
Don’t get all twisted up
trying to figure out if
you need to re-interest
her in you - just
assume she already is
and ask her outYou will not always be correct. In fact,
sometimes you will try to move things
forward with girls you assume are into
you, only to find that they will not comply.
Doesn't matter. The point is assuming
attraction anyway to get yourself juiced
enough to take the shot no matter what
things seem like initially.
The Overconfidence Effect
I'm generally allergic to all the “just be
confident!” people, who throw around
confidence advice as the path to
success with little detail given to how to
acquire that confidence ("Just be
successful!” “Just make your first
million, and it's easy from there!”),
while acting like confidence without the
skills to back that confidence up is all
you need, because the skill set is a
distant second to the confidence.
Yet... confidence itself actually IS an
attractive trait socially, and one that
conveys authority upon its bearers and
ups both trust and attraction from
women.And pride - extreme self-
assurance - is the most attractive
expression of all in men.
What ends up happening is that by
assuming attraction, you actually
increase women's attraction for you by
displaying a sort of sexual bravado in
how confident you are that yes, clearly,
this woman must want you.
Now, obviously, if she isn’t interested in
you at all and your fundamentals aren't
on lock (that is, you're coming across
unattractive and creepy), no amount of
confidence in the world is going to help
here, and actually may make things
worse ("That creepy guy is so confident
| want him - UGHI”).
But if you are a reasonably attractive
guy... and if she likes you, at least a
little, or finds you a little intriguing...
self-assurance in your attractiveness to
her is another intrigue switch for her -
often a BIG one.
Big enough that it can snap her out of
autopilot, and make her say, “Wait, |
was rude to this guy... why’s he still
acting like he thinks | like him? DO | like
him? Hmm... he’s got some confidence,
this guy!”
And then you're off to the races.
Not a Magic Pill
Assuming attraction is not a magic pill
for making women who didn’t want you
previously change their minds to want
you now. Instead, it’s more of a
necessary mindset for finding the
women you like who like you too while
filtering out the ones who aren't
interested.
Imagine two girls, dealt with two
different ways:* Girl Ais friendly and
sociable and flirty, but
not interested
* Girl B is reserved, cool,
and aloof, but interested
In scenario #1, you do
not assume attraction.
If you do not assume
attraction, you will wait
until you're certain a girl
is interested before
doing anything crazy or
bold. Chances are, your
instincts will tell you that
you should flirt with Girl
A, and stay neutral with
Girl B. Of course, since
Girl A isn’t showing you
any interest beyond
flirtation, you also won't
try for anything beyond
that, since you can’t
safely assume she likes
you more than flirtation.
Thus, without assuming,
attraction, you get hung
up at flirting with Girl A,
who's happy to flirt with
you and keep you around
as an orbiter in the friend
Zone (or, in this case
perhaps, the “fan zone”),
and completely ignore
Girl B, who’s sad you
didn’t make any attempts
with her, but eventually
moves on and finds
someone else cute to
crush on instead.
In scenario #2, you do
assume attraction.
When you do assume
attraction, you automatically
assume that Girl A is
friendly, probably because
she's very into you. You
also assume that Girl B is
aloof because she’s just
not super sociable... but
she’s probably very into
you too.
So, what do you do? You
immediately start
treating both women
like women you're going
to date, get to know
intimately, and take to
bed. You begin progressing
the interactions with Girls
Aand B - asking them
to come sit with you,
getting into intimate
one-on-one conversation,
inviting them home or
inviting them to meet up
with you on a date - only
for Girl A to squirm out of
going any further, or get
uncomfortable and bow
out. Apparently, she was
only being social - well,
that’s why we assume
attraction, to smoke
those girls out! Girl B, on
the other hand, despite
her aloofness, comes
along with you, complies,
and warms up more and
more as you progress the
interaction further and
further. She’d been
waiting for a cute guy like
you who actually knew
what to do with her, and
now she’s thrilled she
finally found you.That's why you assume attraction.
Guilty Until Proven
Innocent
Another way of thinking about the
“assume attraction” mentality is
thinking of every woman you meet as
“guilty until proven innocent”... guilty of
finding you blindingly, ravishingly,
unspeakably attractive, that is.
You'll find there are two mindsets,
among men:
L.Innocent Until Proven Guilty: attraction
is not assumed. This is the mindset of
inexperienced and unconfident men,
who do things like tell themselves,
“No, she was probably just adjusting
her hair,” when they catch girls flipping
their locks around them, or, “She
probably has a boyfriend,” when that
cute girl across the way seems to be
eyeing them. To this man, interest in
him must be PROVEN before it can be
accepted as being there.
2.Guilty Until Proven Innocent: attraction
is assumed. If she’s dressed nice,
it's because she was hoping to meet
her Dream Guy that day - in other
words, him. If she’s fixing her hair, it’s
because she’s noticed him. If she’s
standing with erect posture, it's
because she wants to make sure he
notices her breasts and butt sticking
out and checks out her figure. To this
man, interest in him is ASSUMED TO
BE THERE until he’s seen otherwise
from her.
But that second one... isn’t that a little...
unrealistic and extreme? This is what |
hear from inexperienced, unconfident
men when discussing this with them
(experienced, confident men just smile
and nod their heads).
If you say this around women on the
Internet, they will chastise you for it:
“How can you be SO pigheaded and
egotistical to think that every woman
WANTS you? Probably NO woman wants
you!” If you say it around them in
person - and you are a charming,
attractive man - they will give youa
more demure response, and say, “Well,
not EVERY girl likes you...” (to which you
can respond with a seductive gaze and
say, “Are you sure?”, and they giggle).
The fact is, these simply are different
mindsets. Both the “innocent until
proven guilty” guy and the “guilty
until proven innocent guy” KNOW that
some women out there are interested
in them, and some women out there
aren't.
As a fact, they know it.
But as for what they believe, emotionally?
“Every girl wants me,” says the man
who assumes attraction; “Women just
like me as a friend, or are too busy to
have me in their lives,” says the man
who does not.And his reality reflects his
belief.
Can You Learn
to Assume
Attraction?
I'll admit - even when
| sucked with women,
| just assumed they all
wanted me but | simply
didn’t know the right way
to unlock that attraction.
| grew up having pretty
girls chase me, at least,
even if | didn’t do so hot
with them for a while, so
| never had to deal with
feeling unwanted.
Certainly a healthy chunk
of this mindset is just due
to your life experiences,
and you won't get it fully
ironed out and concrete
until you've made yourself
sufficiently attractive to
women that they really do
all seem to like you.
However... while | don’t
normally advise trying to
tweak your inner
workings too much, and
instead just focus on
doing right actions and
letting your beliefs bubble
up as a result of the
outcomes of those
actions, this is one | think
is worth meditating on if
you don’t have it.
If you do not assume
attraction... if you assume
women are NOT attracted
to you... you need to work
on reversing this belief.
How do you do that? I'd
suggest you go with
visualization and
verbalization.
That is:
4.When you see a girl,
imagine her
responding very
warmly to you
2.Then say to yourself,
“That girl wants me so
bad”
I've used this at times
with particularly beautiful
or vivacious girls when
my confidence failed me
and needed a kick in the
pants... imagining it,
followed by verbalizing it,
can at least make it a fun
or funny enough
situation that you will
then take a stab at things
to see what happens.
And when it works —
which, at least some of
the time, it usually will -
all you get is reinforcement
for your assumptions.
While the best way to
holding the “assume
attraction” mindset is
through lots of success
with girls very visibly
showing you their inter-
est, you can prod yourself
along by visualizing and
verbalizing.
That way, you stop writing
yourself off like the
“innocent until proven
guilty” guy does...
presuming himself to
NOT be a sexual threat.
You should be presuming,
the exact opposite: that
you are dripping with
desirability, and every
woman in a three-mile
radius wants a piece of that.
Don't believe it yet? Start
training yourself up TO
believe it; it's one of the
most beneficial mindsets
for your progress you can
have.
Ciao,
Chase*————~ What Does She Mean? —+
15 Examples PiercingSince the dawn of time, men have made
the fatal mistake of taking the words of
women at face value. | can’t blame our
kind, as we are logical beings who say
what we mean and mean what we say.
But women...women are masters of
subtlety. Subtlety and subtext are their
hallmarks. And until you become
well-versed in the language of the
female, you can easily find yourself
dumbfounded and in a storm of fury.
No treacherous territory should be tread
without a map. And no reasonable man
should allow himself to be saddened,
deluded, or maddened by his inability to
understand what a girl actually means.
So today I'm going to lay out such a road
map. I'm going to outline the common
phrases you'll hear from women in
various contexts and what they really
mean. | hope this will prevent you from
being confused, frustrated, dumbfounded,
or from having to ask yourself: what does
she mean?
What DOES She Mean, Really?
That Night | Really Got My Hopes Up
When | was in the throes of college,
| had started my final year with a bit of
ennui. | had just broken up with the girl
| was dating at the end of the previous
year. She was one of the most dynamic
and intelligent girls | had ever met -
wholesome, religious, but also playful
and highly sexual.| had met my fair share of girls in
college, especially since at the time |
was in the middle of being a
fraternity president. But, | just knew
that the chances of me replacing my
ex were slim. Luckily, | wasn’t quite in a
situation where | couldn't stop thinking
about her, but it was more of a rational
and emotional acceptance of the fact
that no girl that year would reach her
caliber.
And then | met her...Simone. We got
into a brief conversation on the quad
and she told me that she enjoyed my
performance at an event that happened
earlier that night. | was pretty casual
about my response. Simone didn’t blow
me away, or leave me dumbstruck, but |
felt like she was pretty cute.
And then, for the next week, she
became the talk of the town. She was
a freshman, but everyone kept talking
about how mature she was for her age,
and how beautiful she was, and how
every guy wanted to take her to bed.
I'm usually not one to get carried away
in the hype about a girl. And as a senior,
| was particularly wary of falling into
such a trap about a freshman. But,
after a couple more encounters, | be-
gan to see what everyone else saw. This
girl was gorgeous; she was intelligent;
she was socially gifted; and she didn’t
take herself too seriously.
But there was one key difference
between me and everyone else on that
campus in terms of Simone: she looked
at me that way as well. | often heard tell
of her talking about me, and she always
seemed to be slightly star struck
whenever | was around her.
So, like any logical man, | asked her
out. And we went on a couple of really
great adventures. It seemed like she
had been there for ages. And she was
as remarkable as everyone said she
was - so much so that | actually began
to get quite nervous around her. And |
began to feel more strongly than | had
felt about my ex (probably because |
was still in the infatuation stage). And
being less grounded as | was, | moved
slowly and failed to get physical.
“But it’s okay. I'll just tell her how | feel”,
is what | thought to myself. So | asked
her out on a midnight walk, and wore
my heart on my sleeve...
Me: Simone, I've had a really, really
great time hanging out with you the last
few weeks.
Her: Colt, | feel the exact same way.
You're definitely a breath of fresh air to
Say the least.
Me: Hah, much appreciated. Well, | just
wanted to add that | haven't felt this
way about a girl in quite a while. And
honestly, | really like you.Her: ...Colt, | really like
you too. But to be honest,
I'm kind of in the middle
of a break up with a guy
at another school. So we
should just be friends for
now. Maybe we can revisit
this in a few weeks.
Now, if Simone had just
told me that we should
be friends, | would’ve
been disappointed, but |
could've let it go. We'll re-
visit this in a few weeks...
no worries at all. That’s
what I'd think to myself.
But then the weeks turn
into a month. And the
month turned to two. And
| barely ever saw Simone
after that conversation.
What did she mean when
she said that we'll revisit?
Temporal Truths
If there's one thing that’s
necessary to understand
about women it’s that
they live in temporal
truths. Was Simone
sincere in her words of
wanting us to eventually
get together? Absolutely.
But as we know, attraction
expires and girls’ feelings
really do come and go.
During month two of not
really seeing her and
wondering where things
went wrong, one of my
good friends pulled me
aside and said:
“Yo Colt, you’re a good
friend of mine so | wanted
you to hear this from me.
| heard that Simone has
been having sex with
Mark from the fraternity
across the street for the
last couple of weeks.
Sorry man.”
... it was much harder
to hear that news than
| could have ever
anticipated.
Eventually | randomly ran
into her and confronted
her about it:
Me: | heard you've been
hooking up with Mark.
Her: Yeah... it started one
night at a party. | was
drunk and it was stupid.
But... he’s a good guy.
Me: I see.
Her: I'm really sorry Colt.
Me: It’s okay. But | do
have one question. How
come him? | mean... why
not me?
Her: You know it wouldn’t
be the same between us.
| guess... | just like you
too much to sleep with
you.
#1. “I like you too
much to sleep with
you.”
This phrase will open up
our list of girl-speak. It
can be one of the most
confusing and frustrating
set of words to hear from
a female. Upon looking
back on these events, |
learned a couple of
critical lessons about my
situation:
* | didn’t move fast
enough with the
physicality
* | over-provided good
feelings
* | gave off way too much
value| had spent a lot of time with Simone
connecting on an emotional and
intellectual level, but upon reflection,
| had begun placing her on so high of
a pedestal that | was nervous to even
touch her. And while | wasn’t touching
her, | was communicating my provider
value in other ways and taking her on
adventures. Essentially... | was digging
my own lover grave.
Let's look at the next phrase a girl
might say that may trigger the “what
does she mean?” thought in your head.
#2. “I'm not really dating right
now.”
When a girl says this, it may be true in
the sense that she’s not dating anyone
at this exact moment. However, there is
always a man in a girl's life. And if there
isn’t a lover, you can bet your dollars
that she is actively looking for one. So
if she tells you that she’s not really
dating... what she’s really saying is that
she’s not really interested in dating you.
A lot of guys hear this and think: “Oh,
she’s not really dating. That makes
sense. | don’t really want to pressure
her into doing something she’s
uncomfortable with. She’s probably
dealing with something. Maybe someday!”
And they obliviously carry on with the
hope that one day they'll be able to
“win her over”.
#3. “It's fine.”
No. No, it isn’t. I'm certain that any guy
who has ever been in a relationship has
heard this wonderful gem. When a girl
tells you that something is fine it means
that she is either disappointed or upset.If she is disappointed, then you either
have to assuage her disappointment,
or come up with a way to compromise/
make it up to her.
If a girl is disappointed, then you have
to get serious and find out what the
root cause of her emotions is. Chase’s
recent article on bridge building in
conversations is a great tool to this
end. And if you follow these steps while
maintaining your masculine frame,
things really will turn out just fine.
#4. “I'm going to the bathroom/|
have to find my friend.”
Hahahaha... no she isn’t - and no she
doesn't. Unless that’s not her primary
motive. In the very rare case, a girl will
give you one of these lines and actually
come back. But, you should only take
her for her word when she actually
returns. Don’t even take her at her
word if she adds a nice “but I'll be
back”. This is quite often a smoke
screen for her actual intentions.
#5. “Maybe” or “Sometime”
You ask a girl out and she gives you
one of these responses. In both
cases she’s giving you an unequivocal
“never”. But she’s trying to be nice
and spare your feelings by giving you
the illusion of possibility.
#6. “You’re such a great friend!”
In other words: “I’m never, ever going to
have sex with you!” Unfortunately, a lot of
orbiters take this statement as positive
reinforcement for their efforts and think
that they are slowly “wearing down” the
girl into enjoying them so much that she
wants to jump in their bed. However, the
only play he'll be getting is the one he
takes her to. And the only physicality he'll
be getting is her light pats on the
shoulder or the occasions where she
cries over another guy on him.
#7. “| was so drunk.”
Aclassic female plausible deniability
response. In fact, the preeminent
response. It really means “I definitely
wanted to sleep with him - or at least
did at the time - but | don’t want to be
judged as a slut. And... | may even ‘get
drunk’ around him again.”
#8. “She is so ugly.”
This really means “She's actually really
pretty and I’m very jealous of her. She
is a threatening presence and | need to
do whatever is necessary to lower her
sexual value.” If a girl is calling another
girl ugly or bitchy,especially if this girl
is a prospect of yours, then you’ve
definitely got her jealousy meter
running high. And if you can, definitely
use that to your advantage if you want.| remember one of the most surprising
instances of girl-bashing I've seen came
from a girl that | really respect. She is
asmart, mild, and generally high-value
individual who is a good female friend
of mine. However, one night | had been
out and met a girl who formerly won
our state beauty pageant. And after the
night had concluded, | asked my friend
what she thought about this girl. |
expected a generally positive response.
However, what I actually got was: “She
was okay. Her hips were kind of wide
and her makeup was a little off. But |
guess she was nice enough.”
| was shocked. | didn’t think this girl
had one mean bone in her body. But
competition is a funny thing. And that
was the first time | felt sexual tension
between the two of us.
#9. “He is so creepy.”
“Creepy” is a catch-all term that girls
use for any guy they are not attracted to
who came onto them in anything but a
“nice guy” way. Sometimes the guy
isactually creepy and he tries to feel
her up in the corner of a club. But when
girls talk about this type of guy, they'll
actually be uneasy. However, what's
more common to find is creepy used for
a masculine man who made his
intentions known, but that she didn’t
want as a lover.
Scenario 1. Actually creepy: “That
guy just grabbed my butt and called me
‘baby’. It made me really uncomfortable.
That was creepy. Let’s move to a
different part of the bar.”
Scenario 2. Fake creepy: “Jake keeps
texting me about hanging out. He just
can't take a hint. He’s so creepy.”
Scenario 2 is an actual statement that
a friend of mine made. |, in Colt
fashion, proceeded to call her out about
the fact that she gave him her number,
and that if she wants him to stop, she
should just say so.Her response was: “It’s
just too much effort. And
| don’t want to be mean.
I'll just ignore him.”
But what she was really
saying was: “I like the
attention and showing
everyone that guys like
me and validate me.”
Fair play. But of course,
she would never admit
that!
Creepy can mean
anything. But it’s
important to know that
seven times out of ten
that “creepy” guy is
probably just a regular
guy who came in with an
uncalibrated approach.
And unfortunately, some
girls will throw you in the
creep jail for that.
#10. “What are you
doing right now?”
If a girl sends this
text to you without any
prior warning, then
this means “I’m horny”.
But of course, she’s not
allowed to actually say
this overtly. So it’s your
job to infer what she
means.
#11. “I’m Tired.”
Sometimes what she
means is that she is actually
tired. But other times -
particularly in longer
relationships - she means.
that she’s lost motivation
due to a lack of sexual
excitement. So this case
will mean bringing the
spark back and turning on
your significant other with
raw sexual enthusiasm.
If you do this, suddenly
she'll have energy that
“mysteriously” came to her.
#12. “He and | are
just friends.”
This one is tricky. If you’re
not with a girl and she
makes a point of telling
you that a guy (whom you
think she has a lot of
sexual chemistry with) is
just her friend, it could
mean many things. It
could be that:
* He is a secret lover, but
she still wants to keep
you as an option
* He used to be a lover,
but now she has lost
interest
* She’s interested in
him, but wants to
use this statement to
gauge your reaction
* She’s attracted to him,
but wants to spare your
feelings (in case you're
jealous)
Of course, these are
only for the cases where
there is clear chemistry
between a girl anda
guy you don’t know.
Otherwise, just take her
for her word. But if you
know anything about
men and women, you
know that the man is
probably an orbiter. But
if you do see the signs of
attraction, do delve a bit
deeper and do your due
diligence about the
situation.
#13. “Do | look fat?”
This is another classic.
Only the foolish would
dare to answer yes. Sup-
port her and encourage
her. Even if she does
need to drop a pound or
two, now would not be
the correct time to bring
up such things.#14. “Do you want to... ?”
Women will rarely ask for things directly,
and this is one aspect that drives men
absolutely crazy. For example, if you’re
out at a restaurant with a woman and she
wants dessert, but is unsure of how you'll
react (maybe you're paying for the date),
she'll just pose her desire as a question of
your desire. “Do you want to grab dessert?”
What does she mean? She is really
saying: “I want to grab dessert but | don’t
want to be rude or seem like a glutton, so
you should suggest it.”
And if you fail the test, get ready to feel the
heat.
#15. And last but not
least... nothing at all.
And last but certainly not least
is women’s secret weapon:
radio silence. In this tech-driven
day and age, radio silence can
communicate more loudly and
clearly than any words coming
out of a girl's mouth.
If a girl suddenly goes cold on
you, she just assumes that
you'll get the point after try
three or four. So if you don't
hear from her... yeah... that's
what she means.
STD Te TMU Yalta
OT STWrapping Up
| did eventually rekindle
the contact and
connection with Simone,
but the magic never
really returned. In fact,
after a couple of months,
it was strange to see
how much | could think
of her as | did most other
girls. Not 100%, but | did
at least bring the
pedestal out of the
heavens. And one fateful
night | ended up kissing
her. It was short. And it
was relatively unimpres-
sive. And she gave me
the “I just think of you
as a friend” line. Fair
enough. But | was happy
| took action. | was
happy | never had to live
with the regret of
wonder.
It was too hard to
reverse the bad
precedent. But she set
me on a path of much
greater lessons - both
difficult and illuminating.
In fact, she was one of
the main reasons why |
decided to truly ramp up
my skills and understand
everything | could about
women. That school
year had been one of the
catalysts for me finally
reaching out to Chase
after consuming his
materials for quite a
while.
So in the end, |
actually have a lot to
thank Simone for. | tried
to get her in person, but
she was always too busy.
So | had to send her a
long text right before |
made my final exit from
the campus. | made one
return to the alma mater
a couple of years later,
and | reached out to her.
| knew she was enjoying
a blossoming college
experience and | wanted
to catch up with her.
So | reached out to her.
And she agreed to catch
up since | was only
around for one night.
And then... she flaked on
me.
Some things never
change :). That was the
last thing | ever said
to her. | hope that she
knew what | meant.
And now you do too.
Carpe diem,
Written by Colt Williams
Colt Williams is a poet-turned-pickup artist, whose fluidity with
women is matched only by his skill as a wordsmith. He was the first
African American member of the Girls Chase team, and boasts trips
to Asia (Thailand, the Philippines), and a current home base in the American Rocky
Mountains. Some of Colt’s specialities include dance floor game in nightclubs...
and Tinder.On Entitlement:
What Do You REALLY
Bring to the Table?We talk about value quite a bit on this
site: being a high value man, dating a
high value woman (or two) and adding
value to situations where you want to
make friends or contacts. But does
value really matter that much? The
short answer is: yes. It matters a lot.
Because while a lot of people feel
entitled to things... just because you
feel entitled doesn’t mean other people
feel any obligation to give them to you.
I've noticed a certain level of self-
entitlement in men that have no skills
with women, men who are beginners,
and even somewhat with men who are
intermediate. Today | want to take a
deeper look at value and examine what
we as men “deserve” from women and life.
- ARE YOU ENTITLED? -
| was speaking to an acquaintance of
mine recently, and he was complaining
to me about the litany of girl troubles
that he’s been having lately (actually
somewhat of a psychological vampire
now that | think about it). He felt that
women simply don’t appreciate how
good of a guy he is, and he can’t find a
woman who measures up to his
standards.
So, I decided to dig a little deeper
into his mindset. Essentially the
conversation went like this:
Me: ...So what are you looking for in
a girl? Haven’t you met a couple cool,
cute girls lately?
Him: Yeah but they just blow me off and
play games, I’m so tired of it! They're
so bitchy! Basically, | just want a girl
who's smart - maybe even went to grad
school, physically fit, hot and who will
cook for me.
Me: So you want a girl who maybe went
to grad school?
Him: Yea. Is that so much to ask for?
Me: Did you go to grad school?
Him: No, but we both know I’m
intelligent..
Me: Hmm. Didn't you drop out of
college?
Him: Yea, and | started my own
business.
Me: That's right. How’s that going?
Him: ...Me: And you want a girl who's physically
fit...when's the last time you went to
gym or played a sport...just out of
curiosity?
Him: | go all the time [a lie]! Plus, I'm
not out of shape anyway!
Me: So, let me just get all of this
straight. You want a girl who is smart,
fit, and will cook for you when you
basically do none of those things
yourself? Nor do you seem to spend
that much on your business, fashion or
anything like that? Is that fair?
Him: Colt, you’re being an asshole! You
should be on my side!
Now, before | go on, let me say that |
am as helpful and compassionate as
can be with everyone | come into
contact with. But as Chase so aptly put
in his article on vampires, there’s just
no boosting vampires with your
positive energy. And after having tried
to have a supportive conversation over
a dozen times with this particular
individual, | knew that | had to call him
‘on his nonsense. And | will never
hesitate to call someone out when it
gets to that point; I've always believed
that honesty - used properly - is the
best thing you can do for other people,
especially negative ones.
As men, we have the tendency to
attack women on their hypocritical
standards for guys. “Why should an
overweight girl get to date a muscular,
sexy man, like you seem to think she
should get to do?” etc. But, as this
acquaintance taught me,men are just
as guilty of this crime as women are.
And like those members of the fairer
sex who are guilty of being entitled,
we too are often not just guilty of it
with the opposite sex, but with
everything.- Misunderstanding and Jealousy -
A good friend of mine became a
high-level executive at a tech firm right
out of college and started his career
making more money than most people
hope to make in all of their 20s. Instead
of being proud of him as all of his
closest friends and | were, | noticed a
lot of the people whom he considered
friends actually trashing his achievement.
They would often grumble and say
things like, “He doesn’t deserve such a
prestigious job as his age,” and,“Why
don’t I have a job like that? He’s just so
lucky!”
But the cold hard fact was that luck had
nothing to do with it. As discussed in
“How to Master Anything”, many average
people who look at great achievers only
see the final product. They only see the
reward, the victory, the triumph.
But what these fair weather friends
didn’t see was the hours he put in every
single day researching the latest trends
in tech firms, reading white papers on
developing technology, and getting his
hands on whatever gadgets he needed
to stay on top of the industry.
What they didn’t see was how awkward
he was when we were teenagers, and
how many active hours he put into honing.
his social skills to scalpel sharpness
and improving his abilities with women
- both of which boosted his confidence
and granted him the ability to interact
and charm pretty much anyone.
The entitlement that everyone else felt
was merely a form of jealousy. They
saw themselves as his equal (or maybe
even as better than him)... and they
could not comprehend the fact that he
was doing better in the job market.
And | believe that all entitlement is a
mixture of jealousy and insecurity.
Average men see other “average to below
average” men walking around with
stunning girls, and feel deeply angry
that they are not with a stunning girl.
They secretly wonder if they are lacking
in one area or another, but they would
never admit that to themselves. In-
stead they insult the man/woman and
complain behind their backs instead of
working to improve themselves. But the
question: Do they deserve these girls?- WHAT DO YOU HAVE ON OFFER? -
Prior to the minted coins
of the Lydians around 650
BC, there was no such
thing as money. They only
way to get something you
wanted was to exchange
something that someone
else wanted. That’s where
the phrase “bringing
something to table”
comes from. You actively
put something down and
barter it with someone else.
| believe that understanding
this very concept of
transactional value can
greatly improve the life
and mind of any man. If
a girl chooses to be with
you, she has very specific
reasons (even if she’s not
fully aware of them) as to
why she is with you.
What do you get from
her? This:
* The potential to birth a
child and pass on your
genes
* Sex
* Someone to nurture you
as you recover from trying
take over the world
* Someone to fulfill your
instincts of providing
and protecting
* Acompanion who
shares (hopefully some
of) your interests
* A beautiful woman
(assuming you follow
the tips on this site) to
make other men jealous
What does she get from
you? This:
* Aman who will give her
children able to attract
beautiful women
* Astrong man to protect
her and her potential
children
* Someone to fulfill her
instincts of nurture and
care
* Someone who can
provide for the household
(assuming you're the
traditional type, but no
judgment here)
* Aman who can give her
orgasms
* Aman who she can join
ona the path toa
greater life purpose
* Astylish, worldly man
who will make other
women jealous
And how can she tell if
you will provide these
qualities? Like this:
* Your fitness
«Your facial expressions
* Your social skills
«Your sexy vibe
*Your fashion
Your job
These are some of the
factors - among many -
that we cover on this site
that she'll be judging you
by. And if you don’t have
these qualities, you simply
don’t have enough trans-
actional value to attract her.
Just like my poor
acquaintance, you simply
don't offer enough value
in exchange for what the
woman is bringing to the
table. Or in some cases,
you don’t present the
value in the right way - a
problem that I’ve
definitely grappled with.
A couple of these things
will make you good. All of
them will make you great.
But what makes you ex-
ceptional is having some-
thing that sets you apart
from everyone else, even
the great guys. And being
exceptional only comes
from mastery.=
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,—
- Being Good Isn’t Good Enough -
If you ask a guy why he should be with a
certain girl or why he deserves to have
a certain job, he will often begin by
saying: “I’m a really good guy,” or,
“People really like my personality,” or,
“| work really hard” (hopefully this latter
one isn’t the case with dealing with
specific women).
Unfortunately, the harsh truth is nobody
but your mother cares that you’re a
“good guy” unless you have something
more to offer. The people of the world
only care about what you bring to the
table to fill their needs.
If |need to have my car fixed, am |
going to hire someone who is a “good
guy” or “well-liked” or am | going to
hire the man with his hands covered in
grease who can tell me parts of a car
that | didn’t even know existed?
If a woman wants to find a man to give
her offspring, is she going to have sex
with a man who will “try really hard for
her” or “be really nice,” or will she go
for the guy who can give her amazing
orgasms in ways that she didn’t know
she was capable of and get what he
wants and sing to her and be a nice,
good listener? Hmm...
One of my favorite scenes from any
movie ever demonstrating the power
of value is Alec Baldwin's speech from
Glengarry Glen Ross. In the words of
Biggie: relax and take notes.Always be closing. Always be understanding your goals and offering value to other
people in order to benefit both parties.
- Don’t Disappoint Women -
Earlier this year, | needed to have a
website designed for me. So | went to
an online bidding site, and got bids
from various web developers. There
was a guy from India who had good
credentials and seemed like he could
really get the job done. So | selected
him and gave him my instructions.
After about a week - three days longer
than the estimate - | got a really
confused email from him. He didn’t
understand a couple of things that |
had laid out, so | had to re-explain my
specifications. After a few more days,
he still didn’t get it. And after even more
days of muddled exchanges, he told me
that he was unable to produce the final
design for me - which was
actually quite simple.
The whole process left me feeling,
slightly bitter, frustrated,
misunderstood and wanting my
desire fulfilled (| still didn't have my
final website design).For the first time in my after taking a chance on And damn, what a ter-
life, | clearly and him, realize that he just rible feeling that is. So
distinctly understood doesn't get them and in don't do it. Learn your
how women feel on a the end...can’t deliver skills, and bring the value
regular basis. Theyseea the skills they thoughthe _—_- start to finish - to the
man who seems so would. women of the world who
promising, who seems so desperately need a
like he’s going to fulfill He can't deliver the powerful man like the
their desires, and goods. one you're becoming.
- Bring Something to the Table -
From now on, never get caught be. The good thing for you is that time
empty-handed. is probably on your side. If you put in
enough hours into anything, you will
You need to make some friends? Bring become competent enough to set you
unique value to the table. apart.
You need a new job? Bring some unique
value to the table. And as always, remember that the
world owes you nothing.
You need to bed a beautiful girl? Bring
some unique value to the table. But if you focus on giving the world
Let go of the jealousy when you feel it what it needs, you will get everything.
creeping up. Let go of the entitlement.
Put in the work necessary to become Carpe diem,
the man that so many others never will Colt
Written by Colt Williams
Colt Williams is a poet-turned-pickup artist, whose fluidity with
women is matched only by his skill as a wordsmith. He was the first
African American member of the Girls Chase team, and boasts trips
to Asia (Thailand, the Philippines), and a current home base in the American Rocky
Mountains. Some of Colt’s specialities include dance floor game in nightclubs...
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Because of School, Finals, and last
minute projects | havnt gone on a date
in 3-4 weeks or maybe longer cant
quite recall. Soon things will calm down
and ill be right back at er(winter break
in 1 week im excited) So here is a post
of my last date | went on a little over a
month ago, thankfully | have excellent
memory for the dialouge is still fresh.
So essentially this ones for you
freshman(| am going to write a long
indepth one | got nothing to do today
so it will be a long read but its worth it
trust me), but anyone else who reads
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COMMENT AND
CRITIQUE, | love that shit.
So this all started when | got this
girls number from work (back when |
used to work in fast food) hadnt
worked there in over a year and
decided to visit some buddies that
were still shoveling away at thee ole
grime. At the counter was the girl
whose # | got we will call her Liz (shes
about an 8/10 on the scale) back when
| worked with her she was extremely
flirtasious and sexual but she had a
boyfriend so it didnt go anywhere.
(had her # for over a year and didnt text
her once)
Anyway when | got there | started to
shoot the shit with one of my old
buddies at the counter the store was
slow we were talking and havin a good
time. Suddenly Liz came out from the
back room and | said to her “still slack-
ing like always eh? cant believe theyve
kept ya” to which she said “IM NOTA
SLACKER haha, | remember
someone being a slacker more than
anyone here, as she gave me a
glareing eye” To which | said “I mightov
been a slacker but | was the sex appeal
of the whole kitchen” she said “oh for
sure but not anymore as she winked”
My buddy heard this and said to me
“oh you too are gettin flirty you should
grab her number” She heard this and
said to my buddy loud and with
confidence “He already does” to
which she walked away to the back.
My buddy then looked at me and said
“Get some”
| took her saying “He already does” as
a call to action so straying off Chase’s
texting format | decided to have a bit
of fun and a learning experience. So 2
days later | sent her a text saying “Hey
Slacker, Better have cleaned those
Ketchup dispensers after work
correctly, Lord knows | always had to do
them for you” Ill put the text in dialouge
format belowHer “Who is this”
Me: “your arch enemy the
dishwasher”
Her “ OHI! the tool right?”
(note she actually said
tool, That is my REAL
nickname where | live so
NO JOKE SHE CALLED
ME A TOOL!!!)
Me “Correct lol so what
kind of mischief you up to
today? or are you
slacking like always?”
Her “I AM NOT SLACKING,
| just got done with
school about to go to an
interview”
Me “Oh nice where at?
id like to know because
| am to warn them about
how unproductive you
are ;)
Her “Oh shut it lol this is
coming from you the
king of all things
unproductive”
Me “I was a amazing
worker”
Her “what are you
amazing at?”
Me “Il am amazing at
everything | do ;)”
Her “everything you say?”
Me “yes everthing ;)"
Her. “OH GOD!!! LOL
Me “ Indeed, Indeed, So
hey was thinking you and
| should grab a
coffee sometime whats
your schedule look like
next week”
Her “next week im pretty
busy though so ill let you
know”
Me” sounds good”
(I took this as an obvious
blowout, | dont have time
for that crap saw itas a
lost cause and didnt text
her for 2 weeks till she
suddenly texted me”
| was getting ready for
a date with a girl that |
was taking to starbucks
getting dressed and all
that jazz, about 2 hours
till the date when | got a
text.
Liz “Hey Loser”
Me didnt respond for 20
mins on purpose “ sup.
slacker”
Liz “...lol | told you im not
a slacker!!! not much just
chillin, youself?”
Me “oh you know a little
bit of this, little bit of
that ;)”
Liz “so exciting stuff eh
lollclc”
Me “always”
Her “so what are you up
too tonight?”
| didnt respond, | was
already on the date with
the other girl. Long
story short the date itself
went excellent pulled her
home all that jazz but
didnt get exactly what |
wanted if ya know what I
mean, Dropped this girl
off and texted liz back”
Me “hey Liz Oh you know
I'm up to trouble as
always”
Liz “haha yea you are
trouble, but | am even
more trouble”
Me “glad to here it ;) say
How about that coffee
whats your schedule like
next week”
Liz “Sure! uhh next week
| am off wednesday!”
Me “alright coffee then.
Wednesday. Starbucks. 7
oclock”
Her “Ok, Better be PM if
its AM | AINT GOIN!!!”
Me “haha yes PM see ya
there”
Her “haha Ok”
didnt text her again up
untill 2 hours before the
date.
Me “hey Liz when you get
to starbucks II| meet you
by the front door”Her “We are really doing that? knowing,
you | thought it was a jokel!”
Me “a joke? | never joke about stuff like
this, obviously you dont know me as
well as you think you do ;)”
Her “I guess not!! but ok!! im still game
| just have to run a bit of errands ill
probibly be at starbucks around 8”
Me “Lol Alright see you there”
8 oclock rolled around and she ar-
rived, and BOY WAS SHE DRESSED TO
KILLIN! wearing high legging boots,
pants they were essentially yoga pants,
low cut top (excellent cleavege) Simply
HOTH!
She said hey | said How ya been, she
said good as | opened the door for her
and guided her in with my hand on the
small of her back.
At the ordering counter | orded and |
asked her what shes getting and |
lightly placed my hand on her shoulder,
she said | am going to get the blabla”
The guy asked me is this togeather or
separate (it was 3.50 for coffee for her
order so | just paid for it, dont critique
me on that | did it, OH NO LOL! ) she
said are you sure? and | said “yea its
no biggy”
Sat down at a quiet table away from
everyone and | started small talk and
quickly went into deep diving, III skip
most of the dialouge | used and just put
in the sexual frames and chase frames
| used that | still rememberSome parts
Her “at work | remember you used to
cause alot of trouble”
Me “yea but | know you like trouble”
Her “ I love it, and | like to cause a bit of
trouble myself”
Me “ Yea, your angelic face has never
fooled me for a second” (| remember
reading this line from one of chases
posts, had it handy and it worked)
Her (smiled at me and | smiled at her)
“continued deep diving ect,
10:00 came and she looked around
and the place was empty, she said to
me “oh no ones here, | wonder what
time they close?” | said | believe they
close at 11” Her “11 are you sure? |
dont want to be one of those people
that stays till close, that makes the
employees angry”
THIS WAS MY CALL TO ACTION ALARM
WENT OFF IN MY HEAD! PULL, PULL,
PULL. So | decided to pull her home. (I
used the yes ladder to get her home, |
know with this amount of obviousness |
could have easily pulled her home
without it, but screw it | used it anyway)
Me “Yea we dont want to be those
people, but I'm thinkin this night is too
young to end dont you?”
Her “Yea | think so”
Me “And your having a good time
right?”
Her “yea”
Me “and you like (TV show name here)
right?”
Her “Yea”
ME “Then we should go watch (TV show
name here)”
Her “OK”
We got up and her and | went outside,
she said “should | follow you?” | said of
course” so we got in our vehicals and
she followed me.
(1 was visiting my parents at this time
so | was residing there)She came inside and |
told her, please take your
boots off, its house rules,
to which she agreed.
We went upstairs and
into my room (No chairs.
in my room, just my bed
by my TV” She sat down
on my bed and | got the
TV show ready on my
laptop, we had a little bit
of small talk, we were
seated next to eachother
on my bed, backs against
the wall, When | turned
on the show, the
opening scene was on
and | looked at her and
said “You smell good
what kind of perfume is
that?” She said
“blabla” | said | really
like it. | looked at the
laptop then looked at her,
I then implamented the
Manhandle Kiss
technique (this was
within only 5 minutes of
her being in my room |
turned her chin towards
me gently and placed a
kiss on her, and slowly
pulled my face back to
look her in the eyes,
her eyes got really wide,
she smiled and | went
in again, THis time she
jammed her tounge down
my throat with a firey
passion, after a little bit
of this | took my laptop
closed it and placed it on
the ground. | then took
her and placed her ina
position on my bed so |
could get on top of her, |
placed my knee right up
against her vagina and
used firm pressure and
she loved it and the
making out increased.
| then started moving
my hands allover her
body, (not her chest) and
| slowly made my way
from her ass, to her in-
ner thighs to her vagina
(over her yoga pants)
she let out a little laugh
of joy and gave me no
resistance as | began to
rub her clit (pants were
so thin it was if she had
them off) | then tried to
get my hands inside, to
which she made a noise
“nuh ah” so | backed off
and went back to
caressing my hands over
her body, Next | went for
her shirt, First | went
over the shirt, then slowly
under, | started caressing
her tits over her bra, to
which then | proceded to
go under the bra, I then
pulled her Bra down (I
dont have time to take it
off, screw that lol)
After a bit of this |
stopped kissing her and
began to unbutton her
overshirt, (it was a little
crowshay type sweatshirt
very small) As | was.
doing this she looked at
me and said in a happy/
giggly voice “we Shoulnt
be doing this” | just
smiled at her and let out
a little laugh took it off
and went back to
making out.
I then started to caress
her vaginal area outside
her pants and tried to
make my way in again
with my hands she said
“nuh uh” again so |
pulled back, After A bit
of making out | went for
it again, AND IT STUCK!!
GOLDEN | WAS IN!!! from
there is was smooth
sailing, got pants off
everything, badda bing
badda boom. You know
what happens this isa
frickin LR lol
SO here in this long post
was the date, text, date,
pull, become lovers.Escalate with Girls
in.Social CircleAnd off she went. That girl from my
social circle kissing behind the bushes
with that other dude. It’s not like | was
in love with her or anything, but damn
I'd wanted to kiss her.
When | was in high school this kind of
scenario would play out with girls at
parties and social gatherings all the
time. | had next to no understanding,
of what to do to actually attract these
girls... and even had | known they were
attracted, | had no idea how to move
So how is social circle escalation
different from cold approach
escalation? Like so:
* You will almost definitely see the girl
again after you've hooked up with
her, which obviously is not always the
case if you're going the cold
approach route
Other people within the social circle
will hear of your hook-up (or attempted
hook-up in the case you should get
rejected) and it will have implications
as to what people think about you
and future girls you may go after. This
means that your escalation has to be
smooth and well-received
You generally have a lot more time
with escalation windows, so it’s not
SOCIAL CIRCLE FOUNDATION:
THE ESCALATIONS
the interaction forward. | eventually
resigned myself to the belief that I'd
only get what came my way by chance.
You can probably relate to that in some
way, shape, or form. In my first article
on the ‘Pros’ and ‘Cons’ of social circle
| gave you a broad overview of what to
expect out of social circle. In this article
we're going to get down to the nitty-gritty
of what my adolescent self didn't know
during my high school years: how to
escalate on girls from your social circle.
as do or die as cold approach; that
doesn’t mean there aren't times to
push the envelope, but it sometimes
means you don’t move as fast
Be Flirty
It's important to flirt with all of the girls
in the social circle. This sets the tone
of how you're perceived. It’s best to be
light, non-committal, and convey
interest subtly.
So what kind of things am | talking
about? A lot of nonverbal stuff like this:
+ Lingering eye contact
* Playful touching
* Teasing
*The ‘I know something you don't’ lookOccasionally you can
throw in a verbal sign of
interest but make sure to
disqualify it immediately
after. An example would
look like this:
Pete: Yeah, you're hot,
shame you dance like
Steve Urkel [wave a
dismissive hand, smile
and back turn. It’s very
push-pull at this point]
SUPER IMPORTANT NOTE:
This is totally not cool if
the girl has a
boyfriend.Particularly
if the boyfriend is your
friend. | think this kind of
goes without saying, but
we'll get into more of this
type of stuff in the coming
reputation management
article.
Ideally, by doing this, you
will have every girl attracted
to you but none will be
totally sure that you want
them. Thus you have
become ‘le Prize’.
Essentially you are
creating a competition
within the social circle
for your attention. This is
otherwise known as using
jealousy plotlines. If a girl
sees another girl having a
flirtatious interaction with
you then that competition
will have her invest further.
This can be worked on a
one-night basis but as you
generally see social circle
people at least semi-
regularly you can continue
to build this over time and
it'll reach something of a
critical mass where all the
girls in the social circle will
be receptive to you.
Jealousy plotlines can
manifest especially strongly
in social circle (as op-
posed to cold approach)
so can be more helpful in
seducing a particular girl...
but can also be a potential
source of drama. That is
something we'll touch on
further in the managing
reputation piece.
Your Frame
What are frames? A frame
is something that you can
use to set howa
particular person
interprets a situation or
person. If that sounds a
little obtuse then humour
me, you'll probably
understand it better as | go.Your frame should be ‘I can have any
girl in the circle, but if you arouse my
interest and play your cards right then |
might take you home’.You'll have
created something like this frame in the
mind of the girls already if you've been
flirting with them correctly.
So now all you need to do is to step into
this frame in your own mind. If you're
operating from it then your inner reality
will match with the outer reality. Please
don't use this as an excuse to be too
cocky. Something like this should never
be said aloud.
Once you've chosen a girl you like, it’s
time to stop flirting with everybody and
start moving things forward with your
preferred girl.
Before you dive in headfirst, of course,
you want to make sure the feeling is
mutual... So let’s talk about some of
your ‘hidden moves' first.
Hidden Moves
These are to test the water out before
larger escalations. At some point you
need to move past the playful, flirta-
tious stage and take the interaction fur-
ther. You can use ‘hidden moves’ to do
that.
These hidden moves can be especially
exciting, particularly for the girl.You’ve
built up the sexual tension and she’s
attracted so when you take the next
step, if you've been doing the first stage
right then this should be vibealicious.
You do need to signal your intentions
more deliberately but you don’t want
everybody seeing it, hence a hidden
move. You don’t want people seeing it for
two reasons:
1.It can make it harder to seduce other
girls in the social circle if you are
seen to be going round and doing this
to lots of girls, especially in a short
time period
2.If you get rejected it’ll not be as
harmful for your social reputation
You shouldn't really get rejected but
even if you do the relatively
innocuous nature of the first way I'm
going to show you to do this (thankfully
I've found it to be the most connective
one too) means that it’s not going to
be a really strong rejection that she'll
laugh about with her friends.
If anybody does see you escalating,
don’t fret, play it like it’s no big deal.
The hidden move should always be
nonverbal, and of a more sexual nature.
It's going to be dependent on where you
are but here are a couple of ways to do this:* Take her hand secretly
- my favourite of these.
I've done this under a
table at a bar, while
sitting next to a girl
when a social group
was having a movie
night, while standing
behind a girl ata
live-music venue etc.
Basically, just do it
secretly. Give her hand
a gentle squeeze and
caress
Rub her leg secretly -
same as above. Can be
done in different situa-
tions
Grab her ass secretly -
and again, just try to be
secret. This is my least
favoured but can also
be the most sexual and
brazen. It’s going to
depend on the girl and
the situation
If she responds positively,
which she should do as
you're the boss man,
then that’s your invitation
to take the escalation
further.
Discretion Frames
Before | take you into how
to take an interaction
further from there I'd like
to get into something that
you can do to proactively
help out an interaction
before it’s further down
the sexual road.
A discretion frame is
used to show the girl that
the two of you hooking up
can be kept a secret.
How do we set it?
There are a few ways you
can set up a discretion
frame. You can do it in an
implicit way or an explicit
way.
The implicit way would be
by mentioning in passing
things like, “I don’t kiss
and tell,” or when you're
telling a sex story you
don’t divulge who is
involved even if you're
pressed on it.
Explicitly, you can say
something like, “If we do
hang out, we should keep
it a secret,” or, “This has
to bea secret.” Sometimes
a girl’s response to that
will be to think, “Why
does he want to keep me
secret? Is he
embarrassed of me?”
which you will be able to
tell quite easily because
she'll probably ask you,
“Why do you want it to be
a secret?”
This is quite easy to deal
with. All you need to say
is, “Just because | don’t
think it should be any-
body's business but our
own; people talk. Be-
sides, | think X, Y, or Z
might get a liiiittle
jealous.” This does two
(2) things for you, both
very helpful:
1.You've shown that you
aren't hooking up with
her for the kudos from
the boys, which
disarms one typical
objection, and
2.You've also elevated
her above the other girl
you've just mentioned,
which takes care of
the bruised ego she
might've had at
suggesting that you
wanted to keep her a
secret
It makes you a team and
keeps the interaction in
that “just you and her”
bubble that you've
already created with your
hidden move.Alternately, if she agrees with your
discretion frame immediately, then she’s
already on your team and you're good to
go (no other reassurances required).
Why is this important?
It's important because it can help
disarm objections she may have about
hooking up with you; namely, protecting
her reputation, and the feeling she may
have that she is just another number
(which increasingly becomes an issue
when you start to become more known
as a lady-killer), but it’s also important
because it allows you to work more girls
in the social circle later on - it’s not only
about the interaction at hand.
If you don’t set a discretion frame
before taking the interaction into sexual
territory then don't lambaste yourself,
it's not absolutely necessary... but it
helps (sometimes lots).
Taking the Escalation Further
What to do next? You have to isolate
her. You should never really be kissing,
a girl in front of other people from your
social circle (or, heaven forbid, doing
anything further than kissing in front
of them). Again, this allows you to work
other girls in the social circle more
easily following the current sexual
adventure because while you might
spike their attraction and jealousy by
going with a girl in front of them, they'll
probably have more objections to you
hooking up with them after.
The best way to do avoid this chaos
with your circle and your girl is to invite
her home or to a place where you and
her will feel more comfortable getting
sexual. Upon her consent to getting
alone with you, verbal or nonverbal, this
can be a good place to deliver your
explicit discretion frame if you haven't
already.
GunThen you leave discreetly.
At the most tension-filled
of times that can be round
the back of the house at
a party or more usually at
one of your houses.
As you can probably start
to see there is a certain
synergy to all of this. It
becomes a risqué game
that you're BOTH playing
on the rest of social circle.
If it’s not possible to
isolate her in this situation
or you miss the chance
to then simply invite her
over in the following days.
Since she already knows
you in a social way she’ll
likely feel comfortable
enough to come straight
to your house. Again,
Chase has covered how to
do this - see the articles
on how to text girlsfor
more on setting this up.
As the more advanced
guys will probably know
this formula doesn’t have
to be followed to the
letter. If you feel that
the interaction is solid
enough without a hidden
move or an overt sexual
escalation you can simply
invite her to hang out
with you alone anyway.
What's important here is
discretion.
Again, there are factors
outside of this interaction
between you and her that
you can use to facilitate
isolation and make her
really want to come home
with you. We'll be
getting into that more in
the reputation
management article.
Escalating with
Social Circle Girls
Okay lads, so we've gone
into the best way to
escalate in social circle...
Let’s have a brief re-cap:
Flirt with all girls in
social circle (sans the
ones with boyfriends).
Keep it light
Use an inner frame
that matches the
outside reality of how
you're acting e.g. “I
can have any girl in
the social circle, and if
you arouse my interest
then | might take you
home”
Use a hidden move to
take one of these light
interactions further in
a discrete manner so
you can minimise
rejection and the social
ramifications of
rejection, and help
along future interactions
by being all secret
Set discretion frames
to help her feel safer in
getting sexual with you
and to manage your
reputation for future
interactions
Isolate her to move
forward the interaction
once you're at the
appropriate point
Use Chase's guides to
inviting her over and
getting her to bed
A parting note - | don't
mean to get overly
moralistic with you guys,
but it helps if you believe
that discretion is a good
thing. Sometimes it can
be hard for a girl to ex-
press herself sexually
because of the truckload
of societal condition-
ing lumped on her back.
Perhaps the biggest ob-
jection girls from social
circle will have is that
they don’t want to be
perceived as a hussy or
just another number.They
have their reputation
within the group to think
about.This objection exists more strongly in
the social circle world than it does in
the cold approach world because there
are fewer social ramifications if a girl
hooks up with a stranger, since she’s
able to more easily keep it secret and
not have it tarnish her social reputation.
A girl who sleeps around a bit in her
social circle is more often labelled a
slut than a girl who may have slept with
more people but outside her social
groups. So treat her nicely, be discreet
and don’t be a meanie afterwards. Not
saying you will be, but it’s worth putting
yourself in her shoes for just a second.
Written by Peter Fontes
And that’s a wrap for today.
Tune in next time to find out how to
manage your reputation post-seduction
and how to help you grow that reputation
so it makes working your social circles
even easier. You read Girls Chase, so
you're obviously quite clever, which
means you've probably already started
to notice how strongly reputation plays
into my social circle know-how. This
next article will really complement what
you've just read and you'll begin to see
the whole thing really coming together.
If there are some of you reading this
thinking, “Ok, this is all well and good,
but there aren’t really any girls in my
social circle,” then don’t despair. I'll be
going over extended social circle and
how to get access to yours in a future
article.
‘Til next time, pals.
Pete
The social circle series continues in
“Killer Reputation Management for Your
Social Circle.”
me Peter Fontes is an Australian world traveler who specializes in a mix of
social circle and cold approach pickup. He’s spent a large amount of
time picking up women in Europe and Russia, and enjoys bold, explicit,
sexual game that puts women on their heels... and makes them curl their toes. He
presently lives in Brisbane.ALCS TH DTU Alt
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How do they eventually end up with a
girl, having little to no ‘game’?’
| THINK | know the answer. I’m assuming
someone will say “they pick someone
who is good enough, and live average
ever after”.
HOWEVER,
If girls have SO many options, why do
they pick someone that in return is
average? Do they pick someone they
are comfortable/familiar with, even
though they aren't the greatest choice?
- pickupq123
| think that the whole seduction is quite
overrated, it mostly helps guys who
have some underlying difficulties with
girls such as shyness or so. Once the
guy gets little bit more comfortable with
girls he realizes that he doesnt really
need that many skills to get a good girl.
There already exist natural attraction
between man and woman, you can't
really “create” the attraction with some
skills, it is already there. You put decent
clothes on, take care of yourself little
bit, perhaps exercise to keep fit, and
then simply talk to more girls... You
show that you like life, that you have
something to live for and that you stand
for something, you stop watching porn
- and you will naturally get many girls
without knowing anything about
seduction.
Knowing the seduction stuff of course
helps, it gives you the understanding of
what is going on in the background, it
fine-tunes your skills with girls, but the
bottom line remains the same - if you
want to get girls you have to go out and
talk to them...
The problem in todays society is the
men in general became mentally and
physically weaker. It used to be that
most men had to do physical work for
living while today many have desk jobs.
Office work is of course more comfortable,
unfortunatelly by not moving we became
more obese, and what more, we lost
levels of testosterone and other
hormones. Once you have higher
levels it is much easier to talk to girls,
you simply have bigger balls and are
not so sensitive to rejections...
When you have “bigger balls” your life
becomes easier. You dont have
problems with talking to girls, date
them and have sex with them. You dont
have problems with doing different
activities, sports, business... You are
more optimistic, you are more creative
and active, you are more of a natural
leader... All this is attractive, you are
simply a man that modt women seek to
be around...The question is, how to
become that man
(assuming that you are
not)... You can imitate the
attraction, you can copy
what successful men
do, you can learn all the
seduction skills... Or you
can simply work on
becomming The Man...
Girls have it difficult too,
they want to chose “the
right one”, meaning
man who fits most of her
expectations... Who is
somehow outgoing, sexy,
physically fit, has friends
and access to resources,
who is not uptight about
sex, simply a man who.
other girls want as well...
She also wants to “con-
trol” that guy, meaning
she wants to be the one
who holds the cards in
the relationship. It may
be quite a difficult
combination to find in
one guy because many
of these characteristics
are in contradiction. For
example she may have
much more fun with guy
who wants sex only and
is knowledgable about
seduction, but because
she is now older she
prefers more stable guy
who is not so exciting but
is rather reliable provider
for her potential kids. She
knows that guy who is
more attractive but wilder
is more difficult to control
in comparison to guy who
is milder - so she choses
the milder one because
she can control him. She
may also feel that the
guy has knowledge about
girls or seduction, which
may be quite exciting on
one side, but on the
other she will chose
someone without
knowledge because he
doesn't have many
choices thus will likely be
more faithful to her... It
all depends...
-DRCK
| met a guy in Hungary
who was from New York,
who had a big problem
with these sorts of web-
sites, and communities
about seduction and
women, etc. Basically, |
think it is true that 95%
of guys don’t go out to
websites like this for self
development, but these
guys are then again,
smart enough to realize
the numbers game. They
keep on pushing, and
know that when they fuck
up, they can analyze their
fuck up, and then next
time, if encountered with
the exact same problem,
will hit a home run. Or if
different, will do better.
They also have friends to
fall back on for advice.But as the previous poster said, this
community is good to help people with
their sticking points, hence, all these
questions in the generals section ;)
In conclusion, you are right, HENCE,
why the divorce rate is so GD high.
HENCE, why so many guys have
problems with women and how all they
want is their GD money. HENCE, it ain’t
too tricky as long as you’re working on
yourself, not being too self conscious
about working on yourself, and making
sure you don’t let a women take you for
granted (and control you).
Speaking from a lot of things I've
learned in the past couple weeks.
-Godsninja
Exactly, that’s the whole illusion. She
wants you to think that they settle for
nice guys when it’s actually resources
from “nice guys”, and sleeping with
“bad boys”. The whole thing is a mess.
-Zacadam
Because most women are pretty
average themselves? It is a bell-curve.
Just because they are women dont
automatically make them all reside in
the top spectrum of the curve. :)
- Gonzaleth
Hello there!
Awoman’s beauty is quite short-lived.
Her peak is generally at age 20-30.
Us men have the advantage here, as we
have the ability to still look very good
until, say, age 50 ;)
So, when she’s past her peak and her
beauty slowly dwindles, she realizes
that herSexual Market Value is also
decreasing. Thus, she just tries to finda
good-enough man she can trade sex for
security with (marriage).
Another factor might be that all the
highly desirable mates are all not
interested in monogamy, out playing the
field, or have settled themselves.
Cheers!
- Rafox
You know, people who taught the stuff
back in the late 1990s and 2000s, fig-
ured this out on their own. And other
guys have figured it out too...they just
don't care to write about it, or don’t
want to share the knowledge.
Of the 5% of guys who read this stuff, |
bet 90% don’t even act on it. And of the
ten percent who do, easily more than
50% (probably a lot more) do a very,
very bad job of it.
But people aren't stupid. If you engage
the world enough, you'll figure things
out on your own.And the girls and boy who are settling on
“average” usually aren't. They engaged
the world and tested the waters enough
to know where they belong, or know the
life they want to live and the partner
they need to live it.
The only person who will probably end
up settling in life is the one who stays
behind his computer all day long as his
life passes him by.
- Metomeya
| always thought getting a gf is hard,
but after | started meeting women just
about everywhere, | think it’s not as
hard as everyone complained it to be.
A girl doesn't really have that many
options. u need to keep in mind that she
wants a sexy and attractive man, which
is pretty rare if uask me.
She'll have a lot of orbiters to give her
validations, but not men who know what
they want and go after it.
Sure, sex is not in scarcity for her, but
she also needs other stuff in life that
only a strong man can provide too.
Just ask any couple how they met, it
would most likely be through social
circle or work.
It's in women’s nature to build a family,
and she only has about 20 years to find
aman, so time is running out fast for
her than it is for us men.
| also blame internet porn, which is
what’s stopping most guys to go out and
meet girls, and also the media for telling
men to supplicate.
| cringe every time | watch a romantic
movie. ( | swear watching too many of
these can brain wash you into a beta
male. Just watch it occasionally to get a
good laugh out of it)
So back to your question, even if most
guys know about sites like this, they
won't believe it because it goes against
what the society has been telling them.
-smithHow to Not Fall in
Love (Too Soon)
by Ricardus DominoNote from Chase: we’ve had a lot of requests on the site recently asking for
more information on relationships - and we realize that's a gap here. Only
a handful of the posts on the blog deal with relationships, and none of the
programs on offer here do. So, we're working on correcting that - I’m writing a__
relationship book that I’m quite confident is going to blow most guys’ relationship
thinking out of the water, and in the meantime we’re trying to get more posts up
on GirlsChase.com about the topic.
Ricardus has just sent me a batch of perhaps 7 posts dealing explicitly with.
relationships, and over the next few weeks I'll be (Felting those up on
is the first one of those posts, on “how to not fall
soon)... enjoy.
ere. This
in love’ (at least, not too
Tell me if you can relate to this...
You've met a girl that is somehow
pulling all the right strings with you (
and if not, this article will teach you how
to find, meet, get and keep her). You
don’t know what it is with her (or maybe
you DO), but she’s got your heart
atwitter and your mind in a knot just
thinking about her.
Your hard work has paid off... and
you've hooked up with a girl who’s.
EXACTLY your type... both in terms of
looks and personality.
Things couldn’t be much
better... except, all the confidence
and inner strength you had worked
so hard to cultivate over the years
are suddenly RIGHT out the window.
Maybe you're even in a place where
you know you could go out and pick up
other girls if you wanted to, so it’s not
an issue of scarcity (e.g., your girlfriend
being hard to replace)...
maybe you've had a lot of one-night
stands, friends-with-benefits or open
relationships before.
And in those situations, you've always
been cool... coolio like Fonzie.
But around your new girl-friend,
you’re suddenly weak at the knees.
ESPECIALLY when something happens
that gives you room for doubt... doubt
whether she's really as much into you
as you are into her.
What causes this, and what can you
DO about it?Ah, Love: Old Insecurities, Cree
As we've discussed in the article
on relationship control, the feeling of
being infatuated or even in love with
someone is biochemically linked to the
feeling ofbeing out of control.
The very reason why people fall in
love with each other is that they don’t
initially know where they stand with
the person they’re with.
Once you show her that she OWNS.
you... that's it.
She'll lose the thrill of the chase, and
start to “fall out of love”...
And this goes both ways.
Maybe you already know about that,
and maybe you're always extra careful
not to show her how much you like
her... and especially, not to show her
your fear that you might like her more
than she likes you.
You don't just need to know how to
avoid acting like you're head-over-heels
in love... you need to know how not to
fall in love in the first place... at least,
not fall in love too much.
But this behavior is just another level of
the same problem... it stems from the
same basic, underlying insecurity.
’t Check Your Phone Now | I
You KNOW you're in trouble if you’re
constantly checking your phone to see
if she’s messaged you.
You know exactly what I’m talking about
if you’ve been there...
And if you have, the simple solution is
to CHILL OUT.
Don't let it get to you if she isn’t texting
you all the time... keep in mind, girls
play THE GAME too.
They read all about how to manipulate
a guy’s feelings in Cosmopolitan and
a few dozen other magazines... they
learn it from the soap operas they
watch on TV and from the romance
novels they read while you're watching
porn...
Chances are she’s checking her phone
just as obsessively as you are.
In any case... CHILL!
| can assure you that this problem
passes with experience and with the
right mindset... years ago | would
sometimes check my phone every half
hour when | had a crush on a girl.
It's not something that can’t be
overcome... now, if anything, girls ask
ME why *I* haven't texted back
Let me show you the light.How to Not Fall in Love: Abun MCT eli ay | I
So where did that abundance
mindset go that you spent so much
time and effort cultivating?
How come there are all these girls
around, but this ONE, for some
reason, has suddenly become so
important that your abundance has
morphed into suffocating scarcity
over night? Why is it you can’t stop
thinking about her - what's so special
about her?
It is because women who trigger these
kinds of feelings in you really ARE
scarce... make no mistake about it.
Maybe the thought will even creep into
your head that “you will never find a girl
like her again.”
Well pal, | have good news and bad
news... which one do you want first?
Okay...
The bad news is that you’re absolutely
right. She really IS a unique little snow
flake, there are NO other girls like her
anywhere and you will NEVER find a
girl just like her again.
Bam!
Now, for the good news.
Have you ever seen that poster
on despair.com that says: “Always
remember... you're special. Just like
everybody else.”Individuality
Always Remember that You Are Unique. Just Like Everybody Else.
That REALLY is the truth.
While there are no other girls out
there that are exactly like her,
there ARE three billion women out
there that are unique in their OWN
ways...
Every girl is so intriguing and
fascinating in her own way that | can’t
imagine NOT having broken up with
(a.k.a. “lost’) my first girlfriend. Christ,
| can’t fathom what | would have
missed out on over the years...
So keep that in mind, and also do keep
your options open a bit.
Talk to girls where you see them
you don't need to cheat on your new
girlfriend, but you KNOW she’s getting
approached by guys, so it’s only fair that
you should have a flirt with a girl here
and there as well.
The root cause of neediness is ALWAYS
a lack of (perceived) options. And if you
want to not fall in love and lose your
edge with that amazing new girl, you
need to keep those options open.Did you know that being “in love” has been
likened to a psychosis by scientists?
Biochemically, it is a very similar
process... and in many ways, you are
pretty much on drugs when you have a
crush on someone.
See the Los Angeles Times’ in-depth piece
on “Brains in Love” for a sound tour-de-
force of the science behind this.
One might say you are unfit to plead in
a court of law... and definitely unfit to
make any important decisions about
your relationship (or even about your
text messages) at this point.
Here's a parachute, a life line, if you will,
that you should make FREQUENT use
of...
fatuated
Are you freaking out? Checking
your phone every thirty minutes and
thinking about writing her again...
because she hasn't replied yet to the
text you sent her TWO HOURS ago?
Sheesh... she’s probably busy at
work, dude! Relax!
Call your wingman instead... your
buddy you go out to meet girls with
He has a clear head... he can think
straight, and view things more
objectively and from a distance. He’ll
slap the idea of sending her
another text out of you pretty
quickly.
Watch this clip and let the lyrics sink
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Whoa... the R word... out
of Ricardus’s mouth? The guy who
always talks about how to date
multiple women?
| know, calm down... | haven't always
been the kind of guy who exclusively
does non-exclusive deals...
In fact, I've been in several long and
very fulfilling monogamous relationships
before... and | know that can be one of
the greatest things this life has to offer.
Being in love with a girl who’s also in
love with you?
The greatest rush this side of
Eden... while it lasts.
But, you need to set things up right...
and you need to strike the right
balance.
When you first get into a relationship
with a girl you have a crush on, you
need to know how to not fall in love - at
least not before she’s in love with you
too;you obviously can’t be a weak
push-over who calls her five times
a day and rolls over when she gives
the command. She'll lose all respect
for you - and all attraction as well.
On the other hand, however, a lot of
the rules you've learned about dating
go RIGHT out of the window as well...
there does come a point when it's time
to drop the “game”, if you ever hope to
establish a good, open communication
line and trust with your girl.
Fea
In dating, a lot of this “tip toe” dance
goes on, where one person slips
forward a step and then the other
person goes forward, and so forth.... It's
part of the fun, and you both don't really
let on to your attraction until the other
person has really won you over.
Once you are in love though, the
game changes and you need to start
being more authentic... because
everything else runs contrary to a great
relationship.Pecingauthentio
Most people are not 100% open with
their hearts... but if you want to be
in an exclusive relationship, the right
confident kind of vulnerability can
actually serve to make you MORE
attractive — IF it is done right.
It is also the main thing you need to
address in HER, as she will likely be
afraid to wear her heart on her sleeve,
too.
You see, here’s the thing.
Everything could be really simple, in
theory.
Boy likes girl, girl likes boy.
When did it all get so complicated?
Well, the problem is that we've all
been hurt in the past... and so most
people act out of fear. Everybody has
baggage from previous relationships,
from their childhood or their
relationships with their parents, and
it overshadows and complicates the
intimacy they COULD experience
today if they were only able to truly let
go of the past
One girl | used to date put it this way:
“The first time one falls in love is
always the best... because there are
no scars yet, and no fear... so we
allow ourselves to love fully, without
reservations and without playing any
games.”
The problem, however, is that this
baggage lies in the subconscious
and therefore, below the level of our
awareness.
But if you can get over your own
past, and allow yourself to love fully
and yet be completely OUTCOME
INDEPENDENT, then you will be able
create an intensity in the relationship
that makes women just crazy for you.
DISCLAIMER: It is absolutely
cruel to do this without loving
intentions. Don’t do it with a girl that
you aren't absolutely crazy about
yourself... you can mess up years
of her life and she will spend them
pining for you. Don’t hurt a girl, and
don’t lead women on.
There's no need to hurt girls or lead
them on about your intentions... if
you only want a casual thing, she'll
probably be fine with it... so long as
you're honest about it.| |
One common piece of advice in the
world of dating and seduction is to
simply push a girl away from you, and
she will want you even more for it.
One “guru” even went so far as to.
saying that other guys are like rubber...
if you push your girl onto them, she will
bounce right back at you.
And that is true... but only to a point.
I've seen it happen several times that a
guy told his girlfriend — “Hey, if you want
to leave me for another guy, just go for
it”
He probably thought it made him look
really secure in himself and like he
didn’t need her... but this is not how
not to fall in love. It’s a fool's gambit
played by a man who's trying to
appear in control when he knows he
isn’t. In all cases where I’ve seen that
happen - where the guy told the girl,
“Hey, if you want to leave me for,”
the girl took the green light and went
ahead and cheated on the guy with
somebody else eventually (me).
It is essential to strike a balance...
neither too needy, nor too indifferent.Or, in the words of David Shade:
“A good man is exciting without
being reckless... considerate without
being boring... macho without being
uninteresting... intelligent without being
bland... and dominant without being
demanding.”
If that sounds like nothing more than an
empty cliché to you, use these words
on a woman some time... | once sent
this exact line to a female friend of mine
over instant messenger, and she was
about ready to hop on a plane to come
see me afterwards.
Even a year later she still brought it up
to me... because, as she said, “your
words were strong.”
Never underestimate the power of
words... and never underestimate the
attractiveness of a man who unites
both sides of the yin and yang in his
personality!
Onward and upward,
- Ricardus
UPDATE: read the next article in the relationship series right
here: How to Stop Playing Games (in Your Relationship).
Written by Ricardus Domino
@ ey Ricardus Domino has been studying and practicing seduction since
2002. Originally from Germany, he’s lived all over Europe, in North
and South America, and Asia. Credits to his name include dating a
Miss World contestant, a Coca-Cola model, and one of “Brazil's Next
Top Models.” He's currently running a business in the language-learning space, tar-
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For the longest time, | believed in
“game” as the most important factor in
picking up girls myself... and | invested
a lot of time working mostly on that part
of the equation. And | got pretty damn
good at it.
The more experiences you make in the
real world, however, the more likely you
are to run into guys who apparently
have no game to speak of, yet have a
magic vibe that makes even the most
idiotic lines work for them
And once | came to that realization,
| decided to focus all my efforts on
decoding this piece of the puzzle. | was
going to reverse engineer this X-factor
like a mad scientist.
| had some theories; | thought it must
have a lot to do with how you FEEL
about yourself and your life. Not
just state, since state is something
temporary... it had to be something
much, much deeper than that; and
something very subtle.
State is how you feel RIGHT NOW.
Whereas this magical vibe seemed to
have something to do with how you feel
about EVERYTHING. About your life,
your status, your wealth, your future
and your social connections. How
happy you are, and how much you feel
like you're in control of your life and in
the flow with everything.
That was, however, just a theory... |
had to dig deeper.How to Pick Up Girls: The Foundation
One thing that is very obvious about
the men who have this magic charm is
that they are VERY comfortable in their
own skin. They don’t display any signs
of insecurity... and they are not faking
that, either. It's real... and it flows from
adeep knowing within.
We humans, in general, tend to do best
at anything when we're completely
comfortable with whatever it is we're
doing.
| once had the great fortune of getting
to ask an internationally famous
musician about this topic — | asked him,
what is the secret of performing artists
who never make any mistakes on
stage?
We're all just human, after all... and to
err is human
His response was — they play songs
that are EASY for them.
mistake
Even a lower intermediate piano
student will be able to play “Twinkle
Twinkle Little Star’ without making any
mistakes... because his real skill level
is much higher than the song he is
performing requires.
People who seem to never make any
mistakes have reached a level where
the songs they're performing are
ridiculously easy to them
They are 100% comfortable with what
they're doing.
And just like you need to be very
comfortable with a song in order to play
it well, you need to be very comfortable
with your own life to live it well.
This is what creates this deep knowing
within... that sense of certainty that
women can pick up on from men with
that magic vibe we're talking about.
and
NeThe Three Pillars of Life Mastery
Now, in order to feel completely
comfortable with your life, you need
to feel like you're in charge of things.
You need to feel like you're controlling
events, and not that events are
controlling you. It really helps if you can
feel, in your gut, that everything is okay,
and that you will be able to handle any
challenge that life might throw at you.
So what exactly does that mean —
“everything is okay"?
On the most basic level, that means
that all your needs and desires are met.
Self-actualization
Esteem
Physiological
And if you look at the famous “Maslow’s
Hierarchy of Needs”, you can quickly
deduct that all the needs we need
to meet fall into one of the following
three categories: Health, Wealth and
Relationships.
Does that mean that you need to be a
millionaire with an Adonis body and a
harem of ten playmates? Is that what it
takes to feel so comfortable with your
life that you will project this magical
aura we're talking about here?
Well, maybe.
morality,
creativity,
‘spontaneit
problem solving,
lack of prejudice,
of factsThe degree to which you have to meet
these needs in order to feel comfortable
with your life varies greatly from person
to person. Some people are totally
broke, but they don't have any worries
about money because they don’t value
financial abundance very highly. Other
people have a six-figure income and are
still stressed about their financial future.
This explains why sometimes a car
mechanic who lives from paycheck
to paycheck can ooze a vibe of
being in charge of his life... while an
entrepreneur who rolls in twenty million a
year might be totally depressed because
he can’t make the 100 million he thinks
he should be making.
What are your needs? How much
money do you need to fee! comfortable
with your life? What kind of shape do
you need your body to be in to feel
sexually comfortable with your clothes
off? What kind of social network do you
need to feel well connected?
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In order to project that you're
completely comfortable in your own
skin, which is an important foundation
of the X-Factor, your reality needs to
match your blueprint for what your life
should look like.
You either have to adjust your reality
to your expectations, i.e. become
successful enough to be able to say...
yes... I've made it. My life is exactly
the way | want it to be.
Or, if that's not possible — at least
not in the short term — you have to
adjust your expectations to be able to
say... I’m okay as | am right now,
and even though I’m still improving
my situation, my life is already
good enough as it is.
Success breeds confidence... so
build a life that allows you to feel
successful in all three areas.Treille
The next piece of the charisma puzzle
is this: emotions are contagious.
| have mentioned this in a previous
post — since we humans are social
animals, we have evolved mechanisms
that allow us to pick up on other
people’s emotions. And not only do
we notice them, we also automatically
mirror them... and experience them
ourselves!
When you’re around somebody
who is angry, it is very easy to get
sucked into that person’s emotional
state and feel angry too. Another
example - when you're in a church
or temple full of people who are in
contemplation, you might begin to feel
a sense of serenity yourself.
If somebody is always in such a good
mood that they make you feel good
just by being around them, you will
want to be around them more in order
to feel these emotions more. And
in the same way, women gravitate
to men who can create certain
emotional states in themselves and
transfer these states to them.
People who have the “X-Factor”
consistently FEEL emotions that other
people want to feel. Women pick up on
these emotions, and it draws them to
these men like moths to the light.
So the two big questions are
1. What emotions do Master
Casanovas experience and
transfer to the women they’re
seducing? One hint: What emotions
do you want her to experience?
There is a rule in NLP: “You Go First.”
Induce in yourself the emotions you
want others to feel. Can you see how
simple this makes everything?
If you can make yourself feel
completely relaxed, women will tend
to relax around you. And if you can
make yourself feel highly sexual and
aroused, chances are women will
experience the same emotional state —
provided you do it in the right context.
We will explore all of this in more
depth later, particularly which emotions
are best suited for the purpose of
meeting, dating and seducing women.
In the meantime, the second question
is this:
2. How EXACTLY can you
induce any emotions in yourself
CONSISTENTLY?
How can you control your own
emotional state — is that even
possible?If you ask 10 people on the street
whether they have control over their
own emotions and whether they can
choose how they feel or whether
feelings are something that happens to
them, most of them will likely tell you
that they don’t have a great deal of
control over their emotions at all.
There is a reason why this seems.
difficult — but if you understand this
reason, you can use a strategy that
circumvents it. And with some practice,
you can gain almost total control over
your own emotions.
Keep reading.State Control
When “Pickup Artists” talk about
state, they often mean how you feel
when you're out at the club, looking
to pick up women. They usually say
that they're either “in state” or “out of
state”.
The state they refer to is not what
we're looking for in this context. They
usually mean being high-energy
and sociable... and they may even
approach several groups of people
just to “warm up” and get into this
state
This can be effective in order
to overcome approach anxiety and
to become more extroverted... in
fact, if you do it a couple of times,
you might suddenly experience AA
s “approach addiction” and feel the
desire to approach more and more
strangers.
However, this state is not helpful to
build the X-Factor, as it floods your
blood with a ton of adrenaline and
can easily make you come across as
hyper... especially during the day,
it will be counterproductive and hurt
more than it helps. You want to be
a sexual man... not a hyper man.
If you manage to get girls to
respond to you in this state, this
will be based on ATTENTION, not
based on ATTRACTION... in other
words, reactions instead of results.
I've experienced this state myself and
it almost feels like a cocaine rush...
you think that you're the SHIT!
In the meantime, everybody else is
just wondering what in the world you
have been smoking.
It is also not true state control at all,
since you’re still drawing your
state from the environment... you're
not creating the state you want from
within, but rather you're relying on
the people around you as a crutch in
order to influence how you feel
Rather than switching from an
introverted state to a hyperactive
state that almost resembles being
on drugs, and doing so by relying
on other people, we want to develop
a high degree of INTERNAL state
control, where we can make ourselves
feel any emotion we want... without
relying on ANYTHING external at all.
Sounds impossible?
It is not... and | will prove it to youYour Brain Has a Hardware Conflict!
If you've studied any evolutionary
psychology, you may have come across
the “Triune Brain Model”. In essence, it
explains that the human brain evolved
in phases.
1. The first animals to leave the water
were reptiles, and their brains were
very primitive survival machines. They
only processed simple instinctual
responses, such as eat, fight, flee and
procreate.
2. The next stage of evolution were
mammals... they have more complex
brains that are capable of emotions, but
these evolved ON TOP OF the reptile
brain and still contain the more primitive
instincts underneath their more
sophisticated neurology capable of
bonding and building social structures.
3. Finally, we humans evolved, and our
brain is the most intricate on this planet
so far. We are the first to have a third
version of this brain, the neocortex. It
is our rational mind, it is the part that
allows us to think logically and make
conscious decisions.
Just like mammals also have the
reptilian brain, we humans actually
have all three of them, because they
evolved on top of each other. We have:
1. The reptilian brain, which is our
PHYSICAL brain... it is responsible for
our more primitive instincts.
2. The mammalian brain, which is our
EMOTIONAL brain... it handles our
feelings and social bonds.
3. The neocortex, which is our
LOGICAL brain... the part of the grey
matter we actually “think” with.
Now, as a rule, older brains are
stronger than younger brains. That
means that if something is threatening
your life, if there is immediate
danger, your reptile instinct will kick
in IMMEDIATELY. Any thoughts and
emotions you were having previously
get “switched off’ and you're in fight or
flight mode.
The reptile brain has overpowered the
other two brains.
By the same token, your emotions will
usually overpower your logic. Marketers
know that we make decisions based
on emotions and then rationalize them
later... if you would like to know more
about this topic, look up “self-deception
or “confabulation” on Wikipedia.
As you can imagine, at any one time,
the three different brains might have
three different needsThis is what creates a lot of internal
conflict and friction, and it makes it
difficult to be in control of our emotions
simply by willing ourselves into
feeling an emotion... or to disregard
instinctual behaviors that would
have helped us survive 20,000 years
ago but that are counterproductive
in the 21st century.
The biggest challenge is that it is
very hard to influence the mammalian
brain directly. It is almost impossible
to simply decide to have an emotion
without a little detour through the other
two brains.
The good news, however, is that there
IS a detour.
If you know exactly HOW to use your
neocortex and your reptile brain, you
can influence your mammalian brain
indirectly, THROUGH the other two...
and THAT is the secret to choosing your
emotions... and to creating any feeling
inside yourself that you want.
I'll go into exactly what that path to
influence is next week, in Part Ill... stay
tuned.
Onward and upward,
- Ricardus
Written by Ricardus Domino
Ricardus Domino has been studying and practicing seduction since
2002. Originally from Germany, he’s lived all over Europe, in North
and South America, and Asia. Credits to his name include dating a
Miss World contestant, a Coca-Cola model, and one of “Brazil's Next
Top Models.” He's currently running a business in the language-learning space, tar-
geting individuals interested in learning their first second language.