Responses to Schoology Question

Negative Flipped Classroom Experiences/Issues

Ms Miles
I love Flipped instruction. It's time consuming to plan. Creating videos can be tricky. Finding engaging apps is
challenging. It's kind of lonely being a flipped classroom teacher, because no other math teacher in my department
flips their instruction. I have to virtually network with colleagues, as in this site. The better I do with it, the longer it
takes. At first, I found youtube videos when I first started flipping. Then I began making them myself. Now that's not
enough and I find myself making notes templates to accompany the videos. I do more projects with students and that
is time consuming to assess.
Fri Mar 27, 2015 at 4:11 pm
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Tiffany Rhodes
It is difficult to control cheating in secondary classes, especially when the admin does not invest in software to prevent
it.
Fri Mar 27, 2015 at 4:27 pm
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Holly Inniger
I am also very pro flipped classroom, but these are my main concerns:
1. What about the kiddos that CAN'T learn this way?
2. Time the teacher has to invest to do it the correct way
3. Scapegoat for SOME teachers as they don't have to really do anything DURING the day - those already not
motivated teachers it kind of feeds into that
4. Cheating
5. "Lazy" students sometimes are lazier as they get to do their work in class and don't ask for help
6. TOO much focus on working on their own, and not enough interactions with others
Again - I really like it, and when done correctly is SO SO powerful and GREAT for differentiation, but I have seen it done
incorrectly, too!
Fri Mar 27, 2015 at 5:33 pm
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Kathleen Packard
My biggest issue with a flipped classroom is that it takes so much time on my part. I teach advanced chemistry to
predominately 10-12 graders in wealthy suburban school of about 1700 students. I require my students to take notes
on the videos as homework and then come prepared to class to work through sample problems. What I am finding is
that many (about 40-50%) do not bother to watch the videos at home and then come in unprepared to do the work.
Then I spend my time teaching them what they should already have learned via the videos. I have started adding open
notes quizzes on a regular basis to keep them on top of the work, but I hate having to constantly keep on top of them.
Fri Mar 27, 2015 at 6:02 pm
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Miss Oleyourryk
It's not for every subject, either. I teach MS English. And while aspects of it are nice and applicable, I don't see a fully
flipped ELA classroom working. English is too much about reading and digging immediately into text-that would be lost
in a flip.

Fri Mar 27, 2015 at 6:05 pm

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Kelly Loughman
Kathleen.... I teach chemistry as well and flipped for two years and it while the first year it was great, during the
second year I encountered the same issues. Kids refusing to watch videos and taking notes ~ not caring how I
assessed them - checking notes for homework, quizzes, making them watch in class and then start activity late (they
would just copy what everyone else had done to "catch up"). Since I couldn't fail half of my classes (although they
were really failing themselves...) I decided to "unflip" this year and go back to lecturing. What they don't realize is that
the flipped model is really so much better for them and so much more work for me! But, the frustration I was feeling
just wasn't worth it... Although I am still really upset about it....
Sat Mar 28, 2015 at 11:42 am
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Kathleen Packard
Kelly - I feel your pain. Same exact things are happening to me this year - guess my students really are "advanced" :)
Wondering if anyone out there has had a similar experience and has some good ideas on how to keep students stay on
top of the work. I agree it has potential to be very successful. Some of the students from other teachers' chemistry
classrooms (I'm the only flipper in chemistry at my school) have requested access to my videos because they truly
struggle with the material and need plenty of time to assimilate the concepts.
Sat Mar 28, 2015 at 10:12 pm
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Deborah Huggard
Don't re-teach because the students didn't do their video homework! You're giving them control. You have to have
parent and admin buy-in because there will be students who fail to assimilate to this style of teaching quickly enough,
but YOU ARE IN CHARGE. I make them watch the video during class-time, take off homework points, then they are late
getting started on the days activity and likely have to finish at home in addition to that night's video lesson. Make it
inconvenient for them and don't give in! Kind of like parenting, it has to be easier to follow the rules than not.
Sun Mar 29, 2015 at 8:46 am
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Alicia Theadore
I agree with a couple of points above - time consuming to plan/create, it doesn't help all students, and (the biggest for
my university-bound ESL students) is not doing the homework before and feeling the need to re-teach. It's been my
personal biggest challenge. I make them give me 3 important points they remembered as review. But it means the
lazier students get quickly left behind. Despite open office hours, breaktime student-teacher conferencing and
email/texting discussions, they may never get caught up.
But I have to ask myself, would these students fall behind anyway? In university classes, flipped learning and outside
reading/exploration are the norm. They will be very surprised without the exposure and could easily fail out as well.
Sun Mar 29, 2015 at 11:16 am
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