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: Good morning everyboCy,

Actually,th2s bell is kind of' funny . I'm suppossd to

keep on time today . And Emily said that if anybody

starts talking Icmg, I -T m supposed to ring the bell .

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to think abuut when we do the case study 1ater c .n in the

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little bit . It involves a cosmetic coaQpany th3C is

under attack by a group of humaue sociaty people whc

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c onstitueAcy System ; why it was developed, how i,

and how we think it might be -able to help the compai .,

over the next year and over the next 20 years .


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as youhave already heard this w ing, we are as we all


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cultivate them, we h .ve to build them, we have to stay

with tbe . Aad we have to usa . proasrls aE 2.ogi.c that

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1ttmber two, it's got to involve hard

aad aaAri .tnnt work . - Yau've got to tili tde soil . You

have to s.at people . You bev+s to lot them understand


your busioass, but JOntly' --- don't coe on too hard .

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tHett is fairly regularly becuuse unless you can show
thee+s peopie,fro whom yvu'r.:: goig to get the thirdparty d.fettse, the clout and the invIvement and the int.rest and thu-credibility, vnless you're going to show
them that itts important at the very top of your organisation, tbey*re not going to have that same kind of
priority to the problem that you do,
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is an important thing . tkne .has to keep on making deposits into the savings acc ounts . G oodwill deposits, deposits of getting to know people, deposits of listening
to their problems, deposits of gently bringing them
abng about what our problems are and how our problews
impinge upon their livelihood, their well-being, their
economic futures and so forth . And you make those deposits in the savingsaccount so that when you have to
make a withdrawal, the bank balance is there . You can
never put yourself in theposi.tion of having to go to a

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not just logical pragipatic a1,Iiea, but friends . And


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fnar anything f or a i ong tia . . Y w have t o stast way

wsy . up front wnd you have to start talking to the pe o-

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h.lter skeitar operatciota . ==hiia is as organized as

yous r.rket3.ng planr It is #~t organized as your

producti na Operatl.oos are . Y-qn are great managers .

Fbaxls Nby Youlpre heca . And. this has to be a managed


opfretion.
You .haw to try to understand whom
you have to neutralize in advanae, who is a potential
threat to you . Not only who is a potential ally . Who
is a potential threat to you snd then haw do you make
csemcn cause with that category of individuals or
companies or group or whathavsyou so that you can neutra liae thom .
Example . The seli-exti.nguiehing cigarette . Who would normally be involved in the seif-extinguishing cigarette on the other side of the fense? Probably the fire-fighting cvaounity . As you bcnow in the
United Btates, we have put a huge amount of time into
helping all the organized groups of professional an4
volunteer fire-fighters . They get such help from us
that it is monumontal . And then when we need them tu
stand up and say, not cigarettes that cause fire, in

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turned them around andrsde allaes, third-party defen-

ders for ourselves . And all of this involves a proa .ss

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osloputar people to develop a hompvteris .d constituency

sys;tw that would help us star4

identigy all o9 the potentiai :s.souroes, including eo-

csosa-reiersnce and'

pioyes, that we could bring 'to bear an Issues that


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beginning by putting in orgaoisations, businesses, associationa, people we do business with who have a veted
interest in the well-being of Philip Marris .

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entry into the system will include Miller Beer distributors, 7-Up bottleas, PM U, :+ .A . direct buy 3ccc,unts, '
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who the senior person is . We want to be able to know


the address . We want to knoat; the phoae number . We
wat to knw what it is they sell to us or what it is
we sell to them .
We also want to know who the Philip
Morris pe ople are that msy have direct contact with
these organisations, so that if the nesd should arise
to make a contact, we w ould do It with the best possible
person .
And conversely, if weire making a contact,
we want to be able to reahh the one or two people who
can make things .happen . So i# youlre dealing with a
ma j or venlt'sMb may not want to go to the purchasing persor~
or to the sales person, but you may want to go directly
to the top . Ahd in some instances and the system is built
to do this, for acompany thatts a subsidiary of another
company -- I'll give you an example . 7-Eleven is the
convenience stores that we do business with, we sell
them cigarettes, beer, soft drinks . They'reowned by
the b outhland C orp ora ti on . A"d if the r wesst a need t u
activate 7-Elevens to get letters written from store

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managers all over a state, in .upposition to a forced


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Sasd;sh Maxwsil, from Dii1 Rowsll,, lroo somebody at


that level to tbe hsad of Southland .aplAieing what
the situation is, seeisg if thsy would be able to

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our system and it would be another way of identifying


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district, which county, which stat. senate district,


: ad whicb state assembly distticE .ach and avesy eatry

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received a call and said activate the entire nation .

We didn't have computers theo`' ;:to do this, We had lists,


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we had thiings in different fites . We contacted our shippera, we contacted our distributors . We obtiousiy contacted our employees .~ But hsel we had a system such as
this, we would have been able to do this much more
quicker .

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the whole system ., For it to I work, there has to be a
guarantee that there will be no violation of any buiinss relationshps or in some cases personal reiatipnships w ith any of the information in the system .
I'1l give y ou an example of hav this
could get fouled up . We have an issue pending in some
state legislature and it's bef ore the Environmental
Committee . Itts a forced deposit bill . The six members
on the committee, two of them : favsr our position, two
are opposed, two are undecided, The decision ismade
to try to put pressure on the two undecided state senators
who serve on that committee . And so we go to thesystem
and we find out that there are 16 major vendors totally
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in both of those districts . Naw if we wouidntt check


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with the designated clearance person at Miller and went

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ahead and contacted them and ask f or their help, we might


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of renegotiating their contraict with Philip Mnrris4


And sure, they'd be delighted ; to write aletter and

then come back and say, okay, . I wrote that letter,


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that the information in tbat system will be as secure as
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operating c ompany's inf orati on
For the wh+ole thing to work with undertaking what I could consider an enormous task here, because fif this works the way we know it will work, the
data base will grow large quite Auickly . But one of the
problems of a large data bass is hdw do you mat'ritain the
accuracy of such a massive file .

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we put in two months ago and it's time to use it . And
if we havenIt checked and kept that system up-dated, we
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wrong pers oo, from th. wrong persun . And s o one of

the biggest jobs weire going to have with this is to

set up a pr ocedure to regularly up-date fi#e and sash

segment of that file to, iflclnding employees that will


be inc 1ud.d in the fi le .

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along, Every time we have an issue, we always reach out


to third parties wherever we can . Besides that, the
oparating companies themssives,have sophisticated constituency programs . And I think Miller has perhaps the
best and I think you'll be delighted to hear George talk
ab out it .
GEMGE WQCOWARD : Thank you Alan . Can
everyone hear? I j otted a few notes down on the back
of an envelope when I was riding here cin th' train this
morning . Xs$; me just, to make a point, tell you about
an acquintaine of mine who is an avid golfer . He also

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is the babbi of a synogogue in my neighbcwhood .


aa2ph GiAnsb.rg is the ost avid golfer

that I have overknown in my life and nothing stops him

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we

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a very_ very small bome office

2 - s taff oec 4, 5 professionals atdae have a field force


3 of 7 of the most talented pro{essional government af4 fairs managers that anyone coutd ever be blessed with .
5 ao Airai each of those seven field people ho anywhere from
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wi11 also always have probiems . The day that mrp.yindustry
no longer has protiams, I wiZl be unempioyed . I mean itts

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, that aiwpie . W. work in an industry which will always


2 have probiema . we want to aati.cipate them. I don't
3 want to have to start cold today with crsnking up our
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out there to deal with an issw . I want to start
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9 o Wa ,have a plan '. This is a dapartment-

10 ~ e~o~rked plan as I said, And part of that plan is to


11 ~ identify early on potential f,'riends, And a friend un
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12 z this issue may be an enemy on that issue . That Es fine .


13 ~?hat fine . And we recognize that in our particularline
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emp loyees , consumers if we can identify them .


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we use when we are making that aall . And a copy of


2 this fotm goes into the gwernm.nt affairs mrnagergs
3 notebook in his office and a copy ooases to our office
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9 o close . We needed I believe two or three more votes in
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11 ~ we had a major supplier in the State of Indiana, a call


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~ beer we sell, the more of whatevr that supplier supplies

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will

sell,

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had a natural friend, a natural con-

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as I said may be our year to get both of them .


Last year in povember we had forced deposit
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II initiatives on two ballots or in two state ballots --

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Colorado and California . Every Philip Morris stokhdier
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Miller, 7-Up, Mission, received a letter from George


Weissman br3ef ly outlining the situati on, our side of
the issue and asking for their vote, tv'e received two
negative replies which aintt bad . Two negative replies .
The rest were certain made the estra eff ort because we
made the extra offort and you know all thedifferent levels
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of appr wai and legal and whatnot to get a letter fram your
own company but to gb aiI the way up and get a letter
from Mr . Weisaman to stockholders is a few caoie levels .
But it 's worth it, it paid off .
Our charge right now to the 7 government
affairs managers is we see as you've heard the past
several days, our issue that is building is the removal
of alcohol advertising frooc radio, television, and perhaps welve heard them talking about billboard bands and
no more signs in the window of a bar and s o f orth . The
advertising, the electronic advertising ban and the restrictions on advertsing at other levels has to be our
number one issue and cur number oee priority, right now,
sltarting this coming Monday when our people are back in
their regions is to contact the natural allies first .
Wh o are the natural allies? The local

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ad club . The broadeasters association of gretater San


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Francisc o . The Colorado Broadcasters Association . The

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local regional American Advertising F'mndation . Even

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1 thoa*h so and s, such and euch an ad agency or PR


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.hop doesn't have any cvatosrs oc,ciients in the

3 aicahoi industrY, they're stiZl natural allies bsisuee


4 they saty luck out next year and land an acc ount . So
5 I these are our laaturai aliiee .` And between nok and the
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Again this goes back to have a plan . We will contact
them with positive infcra~atianabout our company and the
rest of the alcohol imdustry .. We ara not pr_omoting
drunk driving . We are not prsamoting alc3oholism, We are
not promoting sexual abuse and all of these other things
that we .hgve been acused of . Rather we are spending a
huge amount of money on the education, the education of
consumers to enjoy our products reasonably and in moderation . The drunk dtiver is not a good Miller Brewing
Company customer because he's, going to wipe himself tonight and werve lost himforever and so forth . You knuar,
the alooholic is not a good 'customer because he's going
to die next week of *sorosis of the liver or whatnot .

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We are focusing on the aeterage person who


enjoys our product in moderation . We've got a ton of

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literature to lay on these folks, We are contributing


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otganisatioos eho promote th+e reasoeabieness in the

V" and en# eymsut . c+f ai+sobaitA, bewragew.

'TR. bilibtstrds ;; firie"s do not let

friends driw drunk . We're pnttitg 33 ftg?0 dollars


00 #ar", $50, :400 there into those orgauiaations . THat's
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it 00080 time to testify

$2 brfws a partiQular gomrnment bo.*y car some type of

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tai.nted and as

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he test Uying . They are representatives of a multi-

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lative body and breeses out tosorrom .


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tueocies in anticipation prtt", Thank you .


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ALADi llILURt Thank you George a lot .

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w2LUAI1 XMtUi : I n=eading the book

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points caught my attention,
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9 o as they can form their wrn companies and becraoe capital10 ~
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weapon . They chose to do business with those who who
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the 7-Up company ac d Mi il.t b rewing have been doing

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and nA/

capgnant With"4peration Fnsh : on 1u ly .17, 1982 in Charles-

the eo!?ging -tri nd oR thsse organi8at I otls

Qaoing forward and -aslcims fW--BoEw+snants, vesigned e

with

too, South Catoliwt and that inAivded a lot of different


'0 a+tpp.ats that . do busin.irs Mith':.blacks and hispaaics . And
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sigo.tt:. our oavenant, it was to

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9 o b tacks and bis panics . And as ;: such, we did f orm the
10 z Industry Affairs Department which I head up and its
11 ~objectives are to Ameber oq.,= :avoid the possibility of
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of isolate on a conpls +Qf areaa . We have a system of


ccsaaitrosut which starts from the G80 . Wr system doesn't
work untii. Ms . tranteZ first and foremost goes for it and

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everybody is ioilowing suit, from the top dwm . We

wil l sssf st him in awarowss ~tnd o ontaat _elsd tha tls

kind of a third-party cosliCion thing . It involvas

our raatioships with the :&UlCP, the Urbab Leagvw,

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at is needed in the conmity and find om bcso that

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11 ~ We have a system of responsa, If we're


12 z cottGtacted by minority suppliers, we guarantee them a
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response that we ha ve received your inquiry within


En
14 ~ three days by utilizing the 5520 IBM computer add also

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~ linking with Caomodore 64's, we have a 99 percent per-

16 z tcrmsnce level in getting a response back to that per17 ~ son within three days . THat's important to minoritieo,
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They do not want to be ignored and they want to know
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responded back to everybody .


That*s just good business .

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We have a system of f ollow-up whereas


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behind those pieces of business that `+e elect to go

tnt:o. We have s sysat em of `repvrting,in oisnagemsnt

to mEice sure that the aomratfianents that ae'vemade are

aateallybeing done . We meet.'aace a month in a review


boadd aod masagere from all the various dspartments
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that are iov olved are there to give their piece .

We also have a syatem of recognitioa .


If our people are helping to `t1) forestall any of the
bad things and also to promote the good things about
7-Up in teYms of its comamitments, then we want to reward
them by recognizing them . So when you see our Pg in
the papers ab wt a nj or pi .ecee of business we're d oiag
with blacks and hispanics, you'll see a white face or
two in there, a manager who went out of his way to make
sure that that contract was actually executed .
We have what we call the President's
Hreakfast . c7nce a month, the president meets with
employees to give them top hand inf ormation abut our
commitment across a broad spectrum of issues . We have
what we call the president's award f or outstanding
performance . In that way, we can also recognize peo-

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We have a system of cross-cumunications


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and networking . If we've made a covenenjt with Operation


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well also has HcDoaaids, -Burgber Kin, Coke, Rugh

BItnd, Bouthland have made tR0 aaaoe kind of cassait-

wmtr, the saas; type s of cav+sWuti .

Well, 7-Up and, Xi1i.r are ia the sams

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Q? ' Burgher King is a huge customer and Hugh Blind is we11,
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8 o Naar ae've chosen to fletWark with friendly


9 p companies like Hiiier ad ~d also with customer campanies .
10 z NoN what this means is in tha case of Burgher King, we

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a
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same

is

the case with Southland,

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o ship with our customer companies and given them a way


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of s olving the ir pr ob lem .
Further, we're beginning to share input suppliar information by linking our computers wit h
theirs . If they've got a good supplier for chemicals,

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they'll call us up and say, hey take a look at this guy .


If we have a good supplier of packaging, we networ*
bakk and forth .
co mpanies .

S o the netw orking is between custflmer

But we

also

do

the same kind of networking

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t for blacks and hisINania snppUers . If I can't do


2 b>l#iaeas with a bLaek sugplist at its bank snppUar, .
3 1tlaa1t just tu=o twrr aft and say n0, rs can#t do itt
4 because tey believe qwt wo buy so mue ;h, that why- cantt
5 0o you buy fro us? But V111wa Chen around and sa Y r
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~ pisase contact so and so at Soathland, t thi n c ns wght
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Shis approach 'enlorcee a much closer

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1.111 give you d a aupie of examples of

a12 z'' ho+ this t*ird party coalition kind of works ia the aoar13
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~ go' into a program called the A11 American 1lighschool

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~ Beview . It's an entertainment program for highschool

student in their general ass~blies . A~d there ' s a lot

17
a of dancing and music and whatrot . But it provides an
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a
;~ atmosphere where leading black opinion makers and busi-

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~ nessenen can come in and address students and say why
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~ they should stay in school ; talk about their particular

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business . We also have the opportunity there to get


increased distribution on vending in the high school .

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If Coke has a vendor there, we get the 7-Up vendor . Or


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we got a like vendor .


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ttat if youvr+r going to go ta 3fto .clnalds to look for


tis best ha+ebvtgh.r;, but also. :;J .t a . 7-np and it faN
worked vsryreli in St . Lc+Uist. AndMS losh fovward to

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exploring that kind of a program to cth.r m.rkets . as

5 1' slsll .
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6'.,C.0:. ?h! General Motors stovsy . is another


7 I exa'nple of haw the third-party coalition with your cus~
8

o toers works out very xitl . With BoethLands= represen-

9 o tative, the guy who dv .s the aase job as Ida and with
10 z the guy from Hugh Blind, at the CyIC convention we jumped
11 ~ on General Motors to sa y that Bg we ares
oin to
~lever
+ g&, .;:~12 z t~ purchas, of _ automobiles bacause ~r .e do buy thrcx~gh
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Fioet, but we can have an influence on where the fleet


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14 1 or the lease company will buy their cars . We wanted to
15

~ buy more cars from minorities, And we do not want the

16 z cars coming in late ar the trucks coming in late with the


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~ door handles in the wrong place . And what happens is
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:~ the companies then jump on the minority dealers and say
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you didn't do your job right, or the leasing company and

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~ say you didn't do your job right, when in effest, it's
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General Motors ford, or Chrysler who didn't give us and

the minority dealers a priority status . And that's what

23 we aiere trying to influence . So here's three or four


24

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maa j or corporati ons who went to General Motors at one oime

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of all minority dealers, af aasmitmeat on the part of


General Motors to holp .

We have a syate'of concentrated market-

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dollars worth of media dollars off to the side .. Go forward to key market bottlers and ssy look, in order for you
to help us to achieve our goals, if you will co-op with us
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are g+si# give you increased aales and profits and us


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out a+ost,- .put faa an additimal minority media in your

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1 yuu hegr me, T hope?


2 I}m supposed tp tekle about Philip
3 Morris Inc . Es overall involvement with women's org,an4 izatiEma . And I must preface all of this with saying
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9 ~-w umen 1 s organ iaa ti ona thr oughou t the c ountry . They
10 zwauld be the Philip Morris U .+'A people Kisrsty ThrArsrr_i ,_i,
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EiLesen Robert8 and Maria Harrera, and at Miller Sonnie

z J~nes .

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11 betiber pharase I would call the activist groups and those

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a re the one s y uu read ab out the news pa per s . T`ha t's N ClGT
and the National Women's Political Caucus .
Beginning first with the political groups
since they are the most obvious targets fur ias in tgn,or of

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;;~.virng us an i~di~e return on why we ~rae:t to c~ :~ ~..

with therQ thera are tbose urganiaatiuns that have w+eneas

groups within them such as Nationa 1 C unfer .nce ui State

LegLalaturee . They have a wamenf s network which is


fairly n~r)ly-f ormed, probabl.k -4 4r 5 years . Within the
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P.aCionaL League of C3 .tiea they have a woments orgsniza-

I tion alsU, ALmost all of the major gwerrnaoent organiza:r


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~ tions whicn Dale will talk about have avumenlrs grwp .
5 oocs of thow ara ac tive and s ome a$ thsm
are worth pursuing and some of them are just 1;ict2e coffee
c iutches . 4e'rre learning wore about them as we gu a1ong,
They are new to the organi .aations and they are new to us,
:hen you have the groups such as T'ae
Womens aesearh and Education Ynstiturii;l whi.cii is diz ec;tly i~elated to the congressional Caucua A'or Wvnen'a
I3sues . These are members of Congress wbu have loMaad
a caucus just as you have the hispanic caucus and the
alacis caucus and aee have been working c :ioisly with thum .

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x %1+x~~t~ie ?clwti :al Cdu,:us, thvse the iu<yu3 0~ ~ ;illci aruup
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is to basically eleCt more wowa :7 tu legia2ai:i :aa ?osie:3:uvis
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,)n che national, state and I,ocak levela Ch--coug :n .Rit tha

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Campaf.gn Fund which is a political action c :>mittee that

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is dedicated only to electing women to office . That's


broad brushed look at tha pollticai groups-.
The profesriaaal groups include as I

4 11 said before Women in Communcations, Financial Women rs


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82 alition of 100 B&RO Women, -?iou have the National


9 0 Conference of Puerto Rican Women . You have the Coalition
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of Labor Union Wumen . The list is endless .

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we try and sc ope out their priorities and see how they
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of us saree press cqroerage . give us access, make friends


to .essenae stnd lead us to due> other peple who are in .

ess.nae tbr, . public cpinian keraders and the peaple who


are regsitag and affocting the a .le of all of our pro-

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pr opsas tha t we lvs a 11 become iav, olved in w ou id be s


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1 . ?trs 14tion#Itl Woven "s Politica 1 Caucus,

9 6 we publish teir director with ;'Wouen Slscted Officials .


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11 ~ it about every other year now;, This is an actual direc-

t2 z~ tary . ~'i~e first time it s .ver been put togehter . They


13 ~ approached us . We were glad to have the opportunity .
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14 1 It ts a directory of every woaian legislator, every woman
Q 15 ~ who's a county official, every woman who's a major, Por-

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19 o become involved in it .
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it . The copywrite bmloogs

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23 credit for it, That's fine with us . Ouc priority is
24 tttat we set to distribute it, and open pathways of com25 munications with the people who are listed within the

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diractory,

To that aQd, . 00 send it- out under dif-

ferant peoples' signatures to every woman listed there-

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~wore amazed, Most of all, they were just thrilled, no
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who had singled them out f or that kind of rec ogniti cm .
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z much of a concentrated issue it ia, they have only been
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13 ~ compiling facts of wcmmn in Iegislatures, w ::men who have


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legislatures nvw, and it's increasing obviously . In

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30 women running for -- we1ll the primaries jvsr happehad


andI haven't been able to keep up, but apprtziA-ately 2C

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to 30 women who are running for federal positions 3s


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;aeL1 . So it'e new . The women are new to politics and


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corporations are new to courting the women in politics


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and the w omen in the arga bizati ons . S o by our bec uming

25
involved and signing up early with the Vat :i.onal 19vmen's

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Political Caucus, it helped our image as a sucially-

respunsibbe corporation playing on what Bill had said -

before . It gave us a tremendous edge with many of the

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women listed wilhin the book . ANd most of all, it helped


CO us with a very very active political arganiaation , the
a)~ Natio~tl Wco~s Political Caucus . T4ey lobby, they
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have their o3sn agenda . They have active contacts .


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George Washingtun University .


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dune this for thaee yeers so we've had 6 pe opie . Presently three of them have been offered permanent positions

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with the members of congress with whom they have worked,


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access . ThatTs a creative, we think, way of dealing

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with and gaining access and getting to kn ac thepeople

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who are making decisions .

Wealao have bepan a policy where we

bring the feliows up to Phili.p Morris headquarters

i.a New York . Eventually we'd like to bring tboa

armmd to the operstirtg asoptn;Lss as reYl . So that

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what corporations are like .

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19 z 0' getting to say, but some of them donrtG even know our full
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21 z yuu talk about your issues ; yuu ipt and know them and all
22 of a sudden lights go on . They understacid what it's all
23 about . They're new to it and we 're helping to hopefully
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Another "asip3e would be ths N .tionrl


; Association of Negro gvsia .as and Professional Wcso.n.
i1a just had a, we have be .s i;Avolved with this group
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~ust last month . in Atlanta in Oorki,ng . mitb this particular

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~I itiat . an awards prqgiram so we did the aKard, did . the


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9 0 of our Miller people down there toe p,i .ve the presintatica .
10 z Actually Rev . Jessie Jackson was there and ended up as the
11 ~ speaker which was a nioe touab, kut. yu . can't always count
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approach . We made a lot of friends and obviously awards
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one and thereby make your relationship or your c antri-

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0 bution to the organization substantive in nature helps

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there, we had an idsue in Washington, D .C . and the presi22

dent of the NANBZyi went to testify on behalf of Philip


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the coapany and obviously was willing to put them on the


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Another exampie would be working even


wi,th tb. VWQ . -'!bOr a pParoachrid wo an3 they sa id ms
need sameone to do a presenkatiou for ` our annual

Luncheon. Very qiiekiy we put togetlaer a video tape


xe had Mar feoe Baudrrs c ame aod interview three M omma
about M+omen in> leadership . 'lhis was two years ago,
fis.;ve since publiaised that .tap. . We have 35 of them
in distribution, It was a very ineppensive project but
vne that has incredible outrmaoh . It's being shoau in
other corporations . It's being shown by political candidates, It's being shown ici government agencies throughout the country . We 'w - it's nvt juat aome and we give
you the tape . It's that we ask f or their c omments back
and we keep a communication line open with them . That's
another example . We should probably up-date the tape .
People are amazed . Tbeyfre very very happy to have that
kind of involvement from us .
On the activist side, Weive been involved
with the waoen's Equity Action League just as one example .
This is a ivobying organization on, based in Washington .
It''s a membership organization and an its face you would

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think that this would not be a natural ally for Philip


23

Morris or why are we are involved? Tgatis the question


24

that happens often and often .- Fvu~`rs involved with them


25

because they s"e, while you may not agree with them in all

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1 of their is .sae.s, . obviously you try aAdd fiod those .
2 ~ is#u .s on vhicD you can agsad . Av:d from thsir ;per3 syl+ativa, th.y needed e .rly c4rpocate s.upport . We
4 Merf ., let's see we begie vut`' ;relati onship with them
5 S qc 6 yeeira ago, 'fhrough t"ir dian .r, tbey also
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6 o give awards to w om .n in beslooiss and . achievement .
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has

bean ;s relationship that has

8 o~paid off very very oicaly'al1 aloag, becanse they th .9 o se2ves are lowsts, and they .have ,personal toucbes and
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12 En did . on the excise tax, we cao',call th .on . NoW they are

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15 QYftu can say to them, this is the problaffi . This is the
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p them to listen to us, A~d we .get access to other people


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E-z I'd like to say that those are the immediate payoffs .

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That's what we get automaticslly . And talking with

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Sounie, Y.iersty and ev.rytodyelft thsy've said that

24

their interaction with women,_ . ;especia ily women in the

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Sonni,e was talking to e about the California elected

Woo" ;s Assaaiatiioa . Ca liioftials a :big state . Sannie


Mas new to Milierr and gostrnm.otalfairs dvsn there . Aed

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she spons orsd a couple of receptions for them . A ii of


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a sudden, she .,"s got phone contact with th . psopie that
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are making the decisions in ttuse,etate
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10 ~ couple of other have said that in some instances, the
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I strongly in them . So if you can neutralize that and


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your motives by going sort of'around the sensitive issue,

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then youlve .even made a bettei friend, youlve made bettOr

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use of your corporate affairs and your pubiic affairs

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dollars,

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z a lot of the wcaewn are not familiar with business . They

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look at we and they say Philip Morris and you say Miller

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Beer and 7-Dp and aZi of a sudden they relax in some in-

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stances . You're able to give them something else to hang

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their hat on . You neutralize . sase of the amoiring, if they

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have anti-tobaccv feelings, yeu neutraLias that and


T g3.ve ttr.m a: way to support . ya3. Soip them understand
I what you'Ere about, put a steae and afaoe on the name

ol: .tChs aorpoaatioa so that i!'`you need them orevao if

5 1they see our name in the paper, ycu . kant the0 talking
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9 o encer io Washington or what tiave you . Philip Morris to


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Ws have Philip Morris of course, ha .s

z had the foresight to be as inpovative as it has been


~ and to identify theee organizations and women as a con-

~ stituency do .be dealt with .

15 ~ When I first began with the National


16 ~WQmen~s political causus, there were very few other
17 Q companies there . All of a sudden Brown Williams and
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~ Anheiser Busch, you can ' t even get in . I mean they

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F have more sponsors than they know what to do with . But

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~ Philip Morris because of our early involvement, we get

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the choice pick, If we want it, that's fine . They come


to us first . Which is nice .
MR . M.II,Iiit : Gene, if you could just

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wrap up because we're running a little behind,


25

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thing I wanted to say is thatMe anticipate that there

will be more payoffs as the *doi>a themselves mature, as

.hs orgaaisatio ns oae.re and as we work r we closely

with them for a Xongernuober of ye .rs . We have to

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tttw3Erstand that tb.ir ariori,t~tes as ttiay have to underCDco


~ sta~ld ours . Abd you dsve to temmmb .r that a lot of
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o_ fYote hoo .. They didn=t come ftom business . So you isv.


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9 o to g.C to their s>fddaet and try and help them and try
10 z to get the businosses of the country to understand where
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they're caning fres so that you can appeal to them and
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z to their needs . Thank you .

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. MiLLBR : 'l~iat was exsellent . I wish

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~D start theprocess of talking about constituencies, we can

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the perspective on constituency building in the home


butlAing indw try .
JOBBPg BLAKE : Thank ycw, Allan is very

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~ attention to the csse study that he has ev care!`ully

davsiflped . 3o I~m gaing to b. as quick as I can gettiag

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thz ough my part of tb3,s .

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fie ire talkieg &bout iadirsct o+onstitu~ eDGy dev.lapmeat, not direot . Because tha p .ople who
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I the National Cheese Board met to have their annual price

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u and he said I want to shcw you what's happening to tl~e

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these other little finger fuods, we':rre down to about 18


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like this. And after a m+omest of Paus ., acmtond


rais .d
their hand aod aid I have a spectacular idaa .. tibst is

it? And the feliwr Said I think it would be terrific

it' re oould go the direct 1ea ;is iative route and get a
sia.pie amendm.nt to 1de Lord's Phrayar 'so that the Lord 's
Prayer would read give us this day oar daily braad and

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ch.es. . Spectacular idea, tbey calied their Qoucby
alad lobbyst down in Washington and suggested this and
the laWst allowed as he was oeii-connected with the
cardinal in charge of liturgy in Rome . Sotfry said a1AS&t Frank, you oan go up to $300,000 . See what you can
do. So off he went . iie meets the Cardinal in charge of
liturgy in the Piaza . They ait down to have a little
lunch . The cardinal caeeful3 :y tucking in his red robes
over the top of his broganse, ge's leading into the pasta
and our friend says, Cardinal, I have a very simple request .
We are prepared to offer up to $2#'g},000 to the Pope's lavorite charity if we can get this simple amendment s o that
it will read give us this day our daily bread and cheese .
At which point the cardinal spews out the pasta, bec omes
quite agitated and pulit him back and site him d avn and

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says airight, actually he said, cardinal, I'm prepared to


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go up to $300,000 . Which point the cardinal spews out his

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wine that he'a been able to sit f or a minute, start leaving


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cardinal, sit dc" . tst ;s talk abuut this as gertieaan. First of ala, how much did the bresd peapZe give

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if we've done our job right, we'11 find as we found

this sumasr, that naticaal'te :ievi.siou carriee the

atysopica from Mission Viejo Caiifornis . And millims

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eats are and you try to talk together about how you can
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that you did not expect to have happen .


Let me give ycxu ansample . A year or
so ago in the Colorado legislature, a bill was offered
to try to extract development fees for a developers
f or the purpose of constrcuting ners residential houa-

ing . Now the ordinary course of things would say that


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that would be terrific, that the constituency would say
new growth ought to pay its way and that is a debate that
we have all the time because they would love to have
new growth pay f or everything . AN the last peraon
in is free to go without having to psy any fee at all .
That was gaining s ocie currency . . A1d we
said how can we deal with this a little bit more effectively?
It turned out that some had bad a goud
and Iong-te7rm relationship with an inner-city housing
program, the High2and Neighborhood Iiouaing Services
Program and NHS programs were taLced about a little bit
yesterday by the major of Uouisville . We haa developed
a good' relationship with those people, not only servirg
on the board of Jirectors, volunteering our tir~,e and money,
both personally and a little bit of the corporate money to

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show good faith in the inner-city, and so when the tima


came that this bill wae being touted ab out as the panacea
to development and making development pay its way, cie wefat

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going on in Denver, thatts going to hit the problem


of aff ordabiiity . And if we 'lsy vn additiooai costs

oa gifordability for housing :for the laM-incoma people, .

itlFs goig to ake it Iaaposeible for people to live and

work in Z3spsr in o .w housing .


4'hsy jumped on that. gere was a mutual

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the Colorado Savings and Loae>~~~-League Ixogether with the
Colorado Assogiation of Housing and Buildig to turn that
-issue completely away from now- housing and nep developOet'1t,

So what I'm suggesting in terms of dealing with permanent issues is that it can be done positively
and it can be daoe in advanca if youIll be working with
sne of the commvnity groups .
John Shipper who is here and who represents
Milier very effectively in government relations in Colorado
is aware of the facethat in Color#do, and George, we have
the benefit of being able to work in one state rather than
in 5 or 6 or 7 . But in Colorado we have a governor who is
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a democrat and a very strong`repub2ican legislature which


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is c onstantty contending against the goernor . The governor


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was able through sare very ad>Rtoit appointments, to create .
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snd future piaaning. Aod ths .Repub13"as w.re gettiag


g~ctumpy about that subject beeause they were sayiug our

aatwral allies we thought weve the business ooaesrlnity .

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ycisnr natural aonstitnste,ty, 1at ' Ift . Speakete, what ws . think
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a of which we had given to the speaker .


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personnel matters, procedures . Then official to,us because we studied what it was: that was Important to the
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goveraor. We studied what it was that was important

ta the S,tate p.rsoarlt directot and tt worked out very

effectiveiy that .ws were able to sbawt that we bad more

ttisn just housing and ccsamnnity development at interest .

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F many people bere are registesred? 0kay . Hoqv many people
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;~ vention within your area? Great . How many people as a

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delegate went to the state ccmvention from your area as


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We 11 there are three of out of thi s gr oup

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who went either to the county, congreasional, or state


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two of whom of are from Colorado George, and I hope you


noticed tbst John was one of thom . My point being that

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often times we are not perceived as being involved in the


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political process . And I think that that is a problee

2 ti~at I perceive in terms of dev.bpiasg, the third-party


3 netMortr . Period.
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5 problem, 'T'is been ioterestiag, but vhat ; s happening here


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9 o apa-os atho that we tad a very interesting tape that we
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12 EnA pres,atatian made last #aI1, by]lJce Irish, Sob Moore and
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oabout three minutes apiece, is that possible? It's proE~


~bably too much f or him .
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political career today, but when you're last and peopie

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are hungry, it's easy to take credit for everything that's

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said before you and also be short and have everybody think

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you were the best speaker . So Philip Norrie USA doeenit

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have the luxury of a regional system .- And for us,

ccuatituency oosana quit pro quo and I t4ftlc wa pro-

bably listened to cse of ctie esperts of quit pro quo

yesterday, speaker Willie Brown . iio laid it on the

1Um and I hope nobaiy here was offended :by his re-

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that we understand that that's what it's all about .


But it is quit pro quo and I think

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too often
0 Bi11 Ruder mentioned it in h3~aapeta

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there with our hands out, but we forget that

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top and have a broad base . You start at the top and

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you identify all the pe ople in that particbiar that

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might be able to help you . Then you get get duwnto dse

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bottan of the triangle, you 9lowly assess those folks

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that can be the most eff.otivsfor you .

A brief exsmplio.', so I can kasp under

my 3 minutes . Io 1981 iin t4s Tidewates region of

Virgiaia, 6 cities, Portseitlt, Hampton Rotds, several

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oCherf, all agreed at cas time to raise their cigarette

tax by 5 ceats . We started out at the top of our tri~


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angle. We identified baokers' in ths area, f oEkt that
shipped tobacco, folks that aarried tobacco to and from
major cities across the count%7 . We +88entified the major
business associations and as we came down the triangle,
we finally realized that the people-that could press
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the right button and talko to the mayors of those cities,


there could suggest to them that they not raise their
cigarette by 5 cents were the people that actually bring
the tobacco in and out of the Hampton Roads rgion, the
major shipping lanes for tobacco in the United States .

And
once we finally got to the bottom of
y,
our triangle, and we realized that those were the people
and we got them on board, within a couple of weeks we
were able to turn the whole thing around from a situation
that looked completely hopeless and where all the c4ayors
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agreed again not to raise their cigarette tax by 5 cents .


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So here Wssa situation where we identified


our constituents . We cummuni,cated our message and we finally

won .
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l~+~w on -the fifp side of that as Bill

Aud.r iudiaated., there !s t1~;-quit pro qe~~r andsfnce :

then we hrve be.n very respotsltive to thos, f olks that

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fs~om Ti Rothsrmel aboutL~r rest of the World . ;
MR . ?IMt~t H~Lt A l lan, it E s going
to be 2t, I'll surprise you .
What I find fascinating is this listing

of the presentations here along the table and there's


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And the same thing I think applies to Philip Morris, InterQ


15 ~ national, even though we're Involved in 170 markots . And
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17 oU than the U .&, market in terms of taxation or s oone of thea


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menteioned earlier and that had been discussed up here

this morning are the same . And I want to give three very
quick and brief examples .

fJne of them, we've heard the word creatvity an awful lot . Qne thing that we have begun about
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14 monfhs ago in Philip Morris, itstrxuational was the


creatiom sE a nsw i,ntermatiaaial orgMmisatioa add- assoaiatfoa calied the American Bctrsrpsar Ca.emuaity Agaoaiation,

b. 14aw York Bociety of International Affairs . And through

those vabicles we have brought scme 25 leading woW statesw

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msir to l4eir York . We'vs had . a chance to not ooly help


Philip Morris business from pithin their reapectivs countriss, but we've also eosbW the business c+vmmunity,
tAs larger bu sines s c ommunity ; "- banks, ~ law #irms, etc . ,
to gat invoived with these statewaen, and it has served
a pretty good public intsreot_ purpups of better understanding .
Bill Ruder talked about the use of
existing organizations . So did Jeatnine . One of the
existi>7g organizations at International scale we have
to deal with is The World Health Organiaati .on where we

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Again about a year ago, we decided to


intertalce advantage of the national organiatioo, the Food

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process of beginning to meet delegates from tobacc o
growing developing countries to educate them and sur-

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pr is ing ly they wsren 't sdutatsd ab oult Bbe ec ou cmic


significance of tobacco with a couple offolLow-up viisits,
we ire now at the stage where we are talking to ministers

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of agricdit<a-e ie capitals, milaisters of economy in

fimnoe, +iaut standing up av* ` being aounted in the

6ttadd Hsatth OtganisatioA wllrsar' ; issnv involving our

products mre up .
thaa last thing is take advatitage of
same opportunities as they asise and one of the eidwr~
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pirs happened about three weeks ago at the Republican
National Convention when we had the good foactunte to
be able to arrange a meeting with 30 of the leaders of
the majority party inthe Gersain Sundastag and f or a very
1ow cost arrange a breakfast meeting with Senator Kathias .
It was as far as the ZS German parliamentarians, it was
ths~highlight of their week in Dallas .
We have some friendo that can be called
on . We have a constituency .
I I guess to summnrise it, A llao, I would
say thatone element of impoactanae to o . is that nothing
has to be terribly costly . You can put on a breakfast
pretty cheaply . Y ou can charge somebody $50 or $100 to
come to a luncheun, you pretty aell c over your cost .
So it's more creativity and less cost,

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I have one final comment, and that ia


that you should ai#knoN that the cha"n and I have
discussed the case and we both love bunnies .
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questions and ae have until s, quarter till cme . *Jer-

wise you pe opi. miss lunch .

as the persao, that caused 63 people to aist lunch because

that wouLd be awful . But Z'0 sure you have some questions

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to and we can handle questions for a few minutes and then


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t t that with the forum? itm not certain that I understand


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the question completeiy . A good example is labor .


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point, maybe the forum needs revising .

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I just want to underscore

z the point Bob made about retirees . When I was in USA,


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z the ietters you would get, ths idas that they would

come up rith, the things that they would be willing to

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do -- rerite Letters to the_ editor, launch petition drives,


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please iet ma knoa what I cando to help the industry .


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tatve these people that have time on their hands, they


I Men~t to get invotved . And tho ' interesting thing it that

the older you g .t the sace likely you are to register

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and vote . And so theytre alao quite pwrerful .


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paper, but it's a rather jrusme .:ad put out by the Inter- .
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13 ~ of the horrors of what cosmetic caanpanies are doing with
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I regard to testing of rabbits, And itis interesting, they're


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of th. cosmetic industry and to let them lcno w that you as


a citizen are not impressed by the industry's grants to

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-Demand that the use of animals for the testing of c osmetic


praducts and ingredients be stopped now .
Any ideas on who cosmetic company can reach
out to to defend Itself and prevent passage of a bill that
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would put it out of businesst


Spsttsern's otwisatioos .

(pot heard) .

-Aae of the things in the artids, again

~I it's iri44. of interesting bee* se tw aase study Lieoits


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9 o at Modyls and Dunn And Dradatreetls and_iooked out and
10 ~ covered a whole diew of cwep .nies . So we aiuid assume
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and get them to testi/y .

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