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t's l:00 pr.,r and I've been sitting in I this Easr Village restauranr since ! noon, waiting for Nirvana's Kurt I Cobain and Hole's Courtney Love I r to arrive for our interview.On this particularrainy afternoon Nirvana has the number-one record in the country, the awesome Nevermind, which has sold. like, three million copies.The album was their first for a major label;their debut, Bleach, was released Sub pop in l9g9 on and sold only 50,000 back when they were just a Northwest punk trio with an undergroundfollowing. Their sudden, massiveand shockingsuccesshas made the band sought after by media all over the world. And the anti-mainstream Kuft has blown off everTonefrom Ro//rng Stone to the New York Times. Also, at this time, all kindsof major labels rryrngto woo are Hole (the foxcore bandwhose drummer was includedin our Februarypiece on

had a crush on Kurt. Kuft was scaredof me. He said he didn't have rime to deal with me. But I knew it was inevitable." Kurt adds:,,1would iust like to say that I liked Courtney a lot. I wasn,t ignoringher. I didn't mean ro play hard to tet. I just didn't havethe time. I had so many thingson my mind." "He had to write a hit record,';says Courtney. The turning point for the relationship was last September. Courtney was meetingwith a record companyexec. "He said to me, .What do you want? | can make you a big star,"' saysCourtney, whose band is basedin LA. ,,And I said,,l wanr to see Nirvana in Chicago.'So he got on the phone and spent,like, g 1,000 and bought me a ticket and I went. And that is when we got together.', Before you knew it, they were boyfriend and girlfriend. And now they're planning get married to a.ssoon as possible(maybeby the time you read this), both wearing dresses. Kurt likes wearing dresses because they are comfonableand sayshe looks best in baby dolls with flowers on the;. ,,ln

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rT 79 K URI & COURTNE Y myself, This is great.And then the Dl came my f irst b an d was all l2_s t r ing on and went on this half_hourrant about Rickenbacker, three girls, no drummer, I how Nirvana is so obviouslybusiness ori_ got.accused being wimpy, and I of tor a ented and just because we have colored reallybig chip on my shoulderabout it], hair doesn'tmeanwe are alternative. And I Courtney shifts conversational gears a felt reallyterrible. Because there is norhing lot, and n ow sh e brin gs up t he hous e in the world I like more tnan pure under_ they're going to buy in Seattle.,.lt's reallv ground music.And to be shunned ,,lt's by this beautiful," she says. Victorian.And my claim that just because you are playingthe favorite thing ro think about while we,re corporate game you are not honest! you doing major labelmeetings and stuff is basi_ use [the corporate ogre] to your advan_ cally what color we're going to paint the tage.You fightthem by joining them.,, walls.I want to havea babyreallybad, but I It is now time for Kurt to go to MTV, want to be able to afford it myself.I want where Nirvana will tape five videos to be my own money. I couldn't imaginemarryplayed in regular rotation. And Courtnev Ingsomeone with moneyand then living off has an appointmentat Charisma Records. ,.1 them." Kurr on the baby possibility: just But first we go outside for some photos. want to be situatedand secure.I want to They sit on the sidewalk and Courtney makesure we havea house,and make sure kissesKurt, smearinglipstick on his face. we havemoneysavedup in the bank.,, It's looking very Srdand Nanq (Courtney, With Nirvana's material success,doubt by the way, had I a small parr in rhe 19g6 that will be a problem.Speaking of which, movie).Kurt asks Janet,Hole's publicist, to alternative rock fans havea way of slagging get him a copy of their album.,,Thisis the their favorite bandsonce rhey get f"*rJ man,f'm going to marry," says Courtney, Are peoplejust jealousi..1'd really be ego_ "and he still hasn'theard my entire album.,, :istical admit thar. bur I can't f,ulp to Ort Then a yuppie couple walk by and ask to 'eel that way ever-/once in a while,,,Kurt photograph Kurt. "Who were those Deo_ says. "The orher day I was drivingaround ple?" I ask. "Christina," says Courtney, n LA listening a co ,egestariJn. ro Thev "ev er y one has t h e N i r v a n a album. .rryfavorite a "rereplaying lot of bands, like Everyone." guessso, because I :lipper the guy with an d t h e l ' 1 e v n s . I wa s sa ytn g to tne camerawas wearinga bolo tie. 6n v

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