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(13) Jesus said to his (13) Jesus said to his 14 [13]. Jesus says to his
disciples: Compare me, tell disciples, "Compare me to disciples: "Compare me,
me whom I am like. Simon something and tell me what and tell me whom I am
Peter said to him: You are I resemble." Simon Peter like." Simon Peter says to
like a righteous angel. said to him, "A just angel is him: "Thou art like a just
Matthew said to him: You what you resemble." angel!" Matthew says to
are like a wise philosopher. Matthew said to him, "An him: "Thou art like a wise
Thomas said to him: intelligent philosopher is man and a philosopher!"
Master, my mouth is wholly what you resemble." Thomas says to him:
incapable of saying whom Thomas said to him, "Master, my tongue cannot
you are like. Jesus said: I "Teacher, my mouth utterly find words to say whom
am not your master, for you will not let me say what you thou art like." Jesus says: "I
have drunk, and have resemble." Jesus said, "I am am no longer thy master; for
become drunk from the not your (sing.) teacher, for thou hast drunk, thou art
bubbling spring which I you have drunk and become inebriated from the
have caused to gush forth intoxicated from the bubbling spring which is
(?). And he took him, bubbling wellspring that I mine and which I sent
withdrew, (and) spoke to have personally measured forth." Then he took him
him three words. Now when out. And he took him, aside; he said three words to
Thomas came (back) to his withdrew, and said three him. And when Thomas
companions, they asked sayings to him. Now, when came back to his
him: What did Jesus say to Thomas came to his companions, they asked
you? Thomas said to them: companions they asked him, him: "What did Jesus say to
If I tell you one of the "What did Jesus say to thee?" And Thomas
words which he said to me, you?" Thomas said to them, answered them: "If I tell
you will take up stones "If I say to you (plur.) one you <a single> one of the
(and) throw them at me; and of the sayings that he said to words he said to me, you
a fire will come out of the me, you will take stones and will take up stones and
stones (and) burn you up. stone me, and fire will come throw them at me, and fire
out of the stones and burn will come out of the stones
you up." and consume you!"

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Compare this to the Marvin Meyer writes: "These three sayings or words are unknown, but presumably
descriptions of the they are powerful and provocative sayings, since stoning (mentioned by Thomas)
acknowledging of the was the Jewish punishment for blasphemy. Worth noting are the following examples
enlightenment of Zen of three words or sayings: Hippolytus, Refutation of All Heresies 5.8.4, cites the
students by the Master. They three words Kaulakau, Saulasau, Zeesar, derived from the Hebrew of Isaiah 28:10,
are received into the 13; Pistis Sophia 136 mentions Yao Yao Yao, the Greek version (with three letters,
brotherhood of equals. They given three times) of the ineffable name of God; the Gospel of Bartholomew and the
too now speak in ways Secret Book of John provide statements of identification with the father, the mother
which are not (or the holy spirit), and the son. Acts of Thomas 47 and Manichaean Kephalaia I
comprehensible to the as yet 5,26-34 also refer to the three sayings or words but do not disclose precisely what
unenlightened (and which they were." (The Gospel of Thomas: The Hidden Sayings of Jesus, pp. 74-75)
might be resented by former Robert Price writes: "In Thomas' version (saying 13), the false estimates of Jesus are
fellow students). They also even more interesting. Jesus spurns the opinion of those self-styled believers who
now know the secret words consider him 'a wise philosopher.' Bingo! A wandering Cynic. (Thomas also has
of a revolutionary Jesus reject the idea, widely held by many early Christians, that he was an angel in
understanding of Reality. human form.)" (Deconstructing Jesus, p. 51)
Thomas is being
acknowledged as having Robert M. Grant and David Noel Freedman write: "the Old Testament and its
caught on to Jesus message. eschatology have been eliminated; Jesus is no Messiah but 'like a righteous angel,'
- active-mystic 'like a wise philosopher,' or simply incomparable." (Gnosticism & Early Christianity,
p. 186)
All Christologies are false.
Spiritual truth is ineffable. R. McL. Wilson writes: "As Grant and Freedman note, the idea is similar to that of
One speaks to the ignorant in John xv. 15, while the reference to 'bubbling spring' also recalls Johannine texts. It
the terms with which they may be, however, that we have also some connection here with the Philonic idea of a
are familiar, precept upon 'sober intoxication.' Thereafter Jesus takes Thomas aside and speaks to him three
precept and line by line. But words. When the other disciples ask what Jesus said, Thomas replies, 'If I tell you
they are scandalized at the one of the words which He said to me, you will take up stones and throw them at me;
first word of truth. and a fire will come out of the stones and burn you up.' It may be significant that
- Simon Magus while there are several references in the New Testament to stoning or casting stones it
is only John who speaks of taking up stones to throw (viii. 59, x. 31). About the three
It's easy to see that Jesus words we can only speculate, but they were evidently blasphemous to Jewish ears.
spoke three words in Hebrew Puech suggests that they were the names 'Father, Son, and Holy Spirit,' Grant and
to Thomas, in English this is Freedman the three secret words of the Naassenes (Hippol., Ref. 5.8.5). The whole
the meaning of these words: passage is at any rate a substitute for the canonical narrative of Peter's confession,
"I am who I am." designed to give to Thomas the pre-eminence." (Studies in the Gospel of Thomas, pp.
- Dark Soul 111-112)
The teacher is of God, who F. F. Bruce writes: "This conversation begins like that at Caesarea Philippi, recorded
has no attributes being above in all three Synoptic Gospels, where Jesus asks his disciples 'Who do men say that I
them as the creator of all am?' and then: 'But who do you say that I am?' (Mark 8.27-29). But the answers
attributes. He cannot given here are quite different from what we find in the canonical tradition, which is
therefore be resembled to consistent with the historical circumstances of Jesus's ministry. Here the answers are
anything. Thomas had learnt attempts to depict Jesus as the Gnostic Revealer. Those who have imbibed the gnosis
this. He was now ready for which he imparts (the 'bubbling spring' which he has spread abroad) are not his
secret [confidential or servants but his friends, [Cf. John 15.14] and therefore 'Master' is an unsuitable title
private] wisdom to be for them to give him. As for the three words spoken secretly to Thomas, conveying
imparted. But that wisdom Jesus's hidden identity, they are probably the three secret words on which, according
would, and always will be, to the Naassenes, the existence of the world depended: Kaulakau, Saulasau, Zeesar.
misinterpreted by those who [Hippolytus, Refutation v.8.4. Kaulakau, they said, was Adamas, primal man, 'the
have not developed thus far. being who is on high' . . . Saulasau, mortal man here below; Zeesar, the Jordan which
It is an issue of readiness flows upward.] (In fact, these three words are corruptions of the Hebrew phrases in
- Thief37 Isaiah 28.10, 13, translated 'Line upon line, precept upon precept, there a little' - but
Jesus told Thomas that he, their origin was probably forgotten.) The followers of the Gnostic Basilides are said
along with everyone and to have taught that Jesus descended 'in the name of Kaulakau'. [Irenaeus, Heresies
everything comprise God i.24.6.] The fire that would come out of the stones is perhaps the fire of Saying 10.
and therefore he was the son There is in any case ample attestation of the belief that the untimely divulging of a
of God and a part of God. holy mystery can be as destructive as fire." (Jesus and Christian Origins Outside the
Thomas is making some fun New Testament, pp. 118-119)
out of this while relating it to Robert M. Grant and David Noel Freedman write: "In the synoptics, various
the other disciples. Thomas erroneous interpretations precede the correct one. Jesus is John the Baptist, or Elijah,
does not believe what Jesus Jeremiah, or some other prophet risen again. So in Thomas, Simon Peter wrongly
told him and he knows the compares Jesus with an angel (a belief widespread in early Jewish Christianity) and
other disciples will turn Matthew wrongly compares him with a wise philosopher. Thomas rightly says that to
against him because they compare Jesus with anything is impossible; but as he does so, he addresses him as
will think he is lying to 'Master.' Thomas, like the man in Mark 10:17 (cf., Luke 18:18) who calls Jesus 'Good
them. Master,' is rebuked because of the title he uses. Because he is a disciple of Jesus, he is
- iag not a slave but a friend, for Jesus has made known everything which he heard from
3 words: I AM ALL his Father (John 15:15). The idea expressed in Thomas is quite similar to that found
- newbie in John. Jesus is not Thomas's master because Thomas has drunk from the bubbling
spring which Jesus has distributed. This thought too is Johannine in origin. 'The
I too noticed the similarity of water which I will give him will become in him a spring of water bubbling up to
this saying to the Zen master eternal life' (John 4:14; cf., 7:37-38)." (The Secret Sayings of Jesus, pp. 132-133)
who asked his three disciples
how they would teach after J. P. Meier writes: "An intriguing point here is that in the one work of 'the school of
he was gone. He said one St. Thomas' that clearly dates from the 2d century, namely, the Coptic Gospel of
was his skin, one his muscle, Thomas, Thomas is actually a peripheral figure who hardly belongs to the traditional
and one his marrow. The material in the book. He is introduced as the author of the work in the clearly
Essenes had several levels of redactional opening sentence, but figures prominently in only one other logion, the
esoteric teaching and this lengthy saying 13, where Simon Peter and Matthew are also mentioned but Thomas
story clearly shows Jesus the is exalted as the possessor of the secret knowledge of Jesus' nature. This logion
Nazorean Essene testing his stands in tension with the rival logion just before it, saying 12, where James the Just
disciples if they are ready for (the brother of Jesus) is exalted as the leader of the disciples after Jesus departs. On
the next level of teaching. this tension, see Gilles Quispel, '"The Gospel of Thomas" and the "Gospel of the
Thomas passes and receives Hebrews,"' NTS 12 (1965-66) 371-82, esp. 380. Hence the Gospel of Thomas, the
the three sayings which, earliest apocryphal and gnosticizing work that was put under the name of Thomas,
being esoteric, would get does not present a tradition really rooted in that person and does not clearly inculcate
him stoned for blasphamy. the idea that Thomas is Jesus' twin brother." (A Marginal Jew, v. 3, pp. 255-256, n.
The last phrase is also quite 17)
Zen. A Samurai asked
Hakuin is there really heaven
and hell. Hakuin insulted the
Samurai who drew his sword
whereupon Hakuin said
"Thus opens the gate of
Hell." Thomas here is saying
if the disciples did succumb
to throwing rocks, either in
envy or in righteousness of
the law, that they would be
opening up hell for
themselves and they would
burn in it.
- Gregory Wonderwheel
Jesus asked, Describe your
thoughts about me. Simon
Peter spoke of a righteous
(just) angel. Matthew spoke
of a wise philosopher.
Thomas said, "there are no
words or concepts that my
mouth can frame." Jesus said
that they were drunk on the
joy, truth and honor of being
his students. He took
Thomas aside and spoke
three "words/sayings"
(concepts beyond the
teachings that the disciples
understood) to him. On
being asked about the private
communication with their
teacher, Thomas replied, "a
single one of them would
make you want to stone me,
but the desire to do so would
burn you to the core."
Thomas understood
somethings that none of the
others could conceive, and
knowing this, he could not
see his righteous brethren
hurt by revealing the depth
of these concepts, that Jesus
was no more or less than any
of them, that he had learned
that God had given his Word
to all the World and anyone
could learn their place as the
Child of God if the mind and
heart were open enough. Any
of these concepts would
seem blasphemy to those of
simpler minds, who were
already swimming with the
greatness of Jesus' teaching.
- StarChaser
Has it ever occured to
anyone that the three words
or sayings spoken to Thomas
are the things that Jesus then
told the disciples in saying
14? It would have been
heresy if Thomas had said
such things to pious Jews
like Peter and Matthew, and
their outrage would have
been like stones bursting into
flames. But Jesus can speak
them and they must listen
even if they don't
understand.
- Griffin
Jesus, the Master, has
accepted Thomas as his
Chela (disciple) because he
clearly understood what
Jesus represented. The others
didn't. The Master provides a
personal mantra at intiation,
here three words...but I
suspect more words. The
words are personal,
absolutely, and have the
power of Jesus (Master,
Guru) behind them. The
words are for the personal
growth of the Chela, and not
for the others. They are the
key to his further
enlightenment, and the
connection to the Holy
Ghost.
- Petrus
All things imply their
negation. This is not that.
The One has no negations. It
is All. Can you describe what
All is like? Neither could
Thomas.
- nothing
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