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Plating Up
Interview with Paul Fisher
and Paul Skelton of Finish-
ing Talk Live (page 4)
(page 6)
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Trenton, NJ Surface Technol- to promote industry products cause of parts shortages. The
ogy, Inc. has developed an elec- and services. Initial talks have strike is having a far-reaching
troless nickel-PTFE plating bath centered on a large Coating impact on numerous auto indus-
featuring a plating rate of 2-3 Show to be held in the Midwest try suppliers. American Axle said
times the industry standard. The in the fall of even years. Cur- that the latest proposal aimed at
NiSlipTM 515 system features a rently the associations are gear- ending the two-month-old strike
plating rate of about 20 microns ing up for Coating 2008, to be was "not market competitive"
per hour, vastly greater held in Indianapolis this Septem- and that it might close striking
than traditional EN-PTF E ber. For more information, visit production plants if the UAW
baths that plate at only about 7 www.powdercoating.org workers do not accept pay and
microns per hour. In addition to or www.ccaiweb.com benefit cuts.
the revolutionary speed, the NiS- Jackson, MI Elm Plating has Pewaukee, WI James (Jim)
lipTM 515 system saves time, en- had to lay off its third shift - 13 H. Steffes, 61, of Prime Coatings,
ergy, and labor, increases pro- workers - as a result of the on- and a member of the Chemical
ductivity and provides the oppor- going UAW strike at five Ameri- Coaters Association, passed
tunity for thicker EN-PTFE de- can Axle plants in Michigan and away unexpectedly on Thursday,
posits. For further information New York that began on Febru- April 17, 2008, as a result of an
please contact: Heidi Kellner of ary 26 over a labor agreement. automobile accident. He is re-
Surface Technology, Inc. at 609- Elm Plating finishes and heat membered as an outstanding
259-0099 or by e-mail at treats bolts and fasteners that coatings technician who served
heidi@surfacetechnology.com. are found in many vehicles. The on the Board of Directors for the
Manchester, England Ian Sel- company operates two plants Wisconsin Chapter of the CCAI
lars, the owner and managing and employs 118 workers. The for many years, and helped put
director of Elcometer, and one of American Axle strike has caused on that organization’s summer
the founders of the modern GM to shut down all or some of golf outing. For more informa-
coating inspection industry, 29 vehicle assembly plants be- tion, e-mail WISCCAI@wi.rr.com.
passed away April 10, 2008. He
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am wrong and they produce a Skelton: All you have to do is one has to do it.
very, very good product, and we let us know you want to collabo-
move on to the next one in a rate with us and we will let you FTalk: How can viewers get
few weeks. know if we can facilitate coming involved and interact with
to your company or place to film the show?
FTalk: If you could choose an “a walk”. Fisher: A big part the show
ideal location to film an epi-
comes from the viewers them-
sode, where would it be? FT: Where will your next epi-
selves in the form of postings on
sode (Episode 7) be shot?
Fisher: The roof top bar at the the bulletin boards. There is no
Charleston Pavilion Hotel. We’ve Fisher: We have just finalized surer way to get involved than
been asking them for years to let plans for our invitation to have communicating, and collaborat-
us film a show in conjunction Episode 7 filmed in conjunction ing with fellow members.
with the end of our pub crawl / with the Indianapolis AESF Skelton: Register on Finishing-
scavenger hunt during the SMF Branch party for Sur-Fin 2008. I Talk.com! Make a post, reply or
conference. think Jillian's is the venue and it add to a post, just get involved
Skelton: I would have to say on should be a blast. Once we have with the online forum and we
the beach, maybe Hawaii or in everything in concrete we’ll will make you FAMOUS!! Or at
the Caribbean somewhere. And make some postings on the bul- least use your topic for content,
then there is my desire to shoot letin boards and send everyone our members are already fa-
it on a set similar to “The Man announcements. mous!! Remember, it’s a team
Show”, beer, trampolines and Skelton: My understanding is effort.
everything. That reminds me, Indy, I just make sure I am
Jay Pietro invited us to shoot a where I need to be I let the Check out this and past inter-
show in New England in his wine Fisher take care of the shoot, I views on our updated website in
cellar, and throw in the trampo- scout out the pub crawl wher- the ’Publication’ section at
lines. And don’t think we won’t ever we are. It’s all about team www.finishingtalk.com
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DustinGebhardt
DustinGebhardt
Okay, now I'm getting a better picture. In my
Run a small gauge wire (12-16) from an anode to mind, I thought you were using Ti steam
the heater. This will "anodize" the heater and pre- coils. Now I see that you are using electric heat-
vent buildup from forming. Plus, it will slowly re- ers. By all means, ground the electrical part of the
dissolve the copper back into the solution. Be sure heaters. I'm no electrician, but I believe that a
to keep the wire out of the solution, or it may dis- single phase wiring job should include a hot lead,
solve. neutral lead, and ground. Three phase should in-
clude 3 hot leads, 1 neutral and 1 ground, but I
D.T. could be wrong; 3 phase power sometimes makes
Run a wire to the heater? You mean a wire from me scratch my head.
the heater ground to the anode? Close to the
heater itself? We have 4VDC 500 amp rectifiers. When you run your small wire from an anode to
Will this throw off the current to the work in the the heater, be sure that the wire is somehow
tank? Won't it burn up the small wire with all the touching the outside metal cylinder. Having the
current going through it to ground instead of the wire only run to the internal elements may not get
plating bath/work? you to where you want to be.
Thanks for the tip! I received the same tip from As far as the Ti dissolving into the tank, I've never
Process Technology. I will try it. really seen that happen. I'm assuming that you
are using the correct material for the bath.
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Skelton
This is an old one, but a good one.....
It appears that you are on track to get your heat-
ers grounded. I highly suggest Dustin's recommen-
dation to implement anodic current to the heater
tube itself, but you need to ensure that it is in fact
connected and drawing anodic (+) current to stop
plating. If you cannot weld a connector to titanium
tube, you could try a conductive adhesive and
hope that the chemistry does not remove adhesive.
Or, you could use a stainless hose clamp to make
connection to your anodic connector and then se-
curely connect to the anode bar.
The correct material for acid copper is Quartz and
PTFE (Teflon). This may be your quickest solution,
however, most expensive route to resolving the
problem. If you are copper plating in an alkaline-
cyanide or non-cyanide plating bath, stainless steel
is recommended. Could you please indulge us on
your copper process, this may help us some.
Also, if you have the ability to check "ripple", you
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may have some stray current that may be causing how it may mess up our plating process causing
some of this to happen. Ripple voltage is the mag- scrap.
nitude of fluctuation in DC output voltage at a spe-
cific output current. This assumes the AC input DustinGebhardt
voltage and frequency are kept constant. Most Ripple is measured by the percentage of VAC to
common levels do not exceed 5% of AC input volt- VDC. If you measure 2VDC and measure 0.2VAC,
age and can be the culprit in some cases. you would have 10% ripple (0.2/2 = 0.1 or
Let us know how you make out with this, it seems 10%). I'm assuming you meant "less than 100mV
you have been struggling with this for sometime AC" and not "100mV DC", right? In that case,
now. Good luck. 100mV divided by the DC voltage you measured at
the same time would give you your ripple. BTW,
DustinGebhardt ripple should always be measured with material in
Quote: Skelton wrote: “Also, if you have the the bath. Measuring ripple in an idle tank can give
ability to check "ripple", you may have some stray bogus readings.
current that may be causing some of this to hap- What kind of faulty current are you talking about
pen.” that would cause scrap?
Not to nit-pick, but ripple and stray current are 2
very different monsters. I agree that ripple should Metfinoh
be below 5%, or 10% worst case. Stray current is Back to the heaters plating up...here is what we do
any other current than the one introduced by the in our tanks. We actually use a separate auxil-
rectifier(s). Sometimes you can get current coming iary rectifier, such as a laboratory or hull cell recti-
through your steam lines, water pipes, etc. Stray fier. You would not want to use a large capacity
current is very often a nightmare of a nightmare to rectifier, because all you need to impose is a very
find. Ripple should be much easier to check with a small "trickle" of direct current.
good quality RMS digital multimeter. An anodic charge should be imposed on the out-
Not to go too far off-topic, but my sister company, side shell of the titanium (or stainless) heater,
Fluke, makes some great multimeters. :-) above the solution level. We run a small wire from
the cathodic side of the auxiliary rectifier to a small
D.T. piece of carbon, and place this carbon cathode
Alright, you guys haven't given up on me yet - within about 6" of the heater. Then we adjust the
great. Here are the heaters that are in the tank: output of the auxiliary rectifier to about 1/2 volt
DC. This small secondary electrical input should
P, F, S, and T Series, Metal Heaters have no side effects. It is important that the wire
(Link: http://www.process-technology.com/ connections to the heater and carbon cathode be
processtechnol/mots.htm) above the solution level. At the voltage I recom-
Bath is sulfuric acid, copper sulfate. mend, you will only see about 1 ampere. The am-
perage is limited by the size of the cathode.
Rectifiers are 4VDC 500 amp maximum. We usually
The shell of the heater is connected to the factory
use less than 180 amps DC. I have checked ripple
ground and in no case should this ground be dis-
before with our oscilloscope, and usually do not
connected. This ground is to direct a possible
see over 100mV DC.
shortage to ground (0 potential difference).
I swung this idea by my boss, who is the cheapest
person there is, and he said we may try it. I say D.T.
we replace them all with PTFE encapsulated heat- External rectifier sounds like a good idea. I had to
ers instead; but business is really slow right now, calibrate one rectifier today, and I only saw 25 mV
so I doubt we will spend the money. We are con- AC ripple with a shunt across the load (sorry about
cerned we may have an actual fault current, and earlier typo). Damn control cards, rectifiers, and
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gate cards are via 1980, and are from Controlled imposed AC! Stray DC current probably would.
Power. Difficult to get "perfect", as far as amp out- Take a millimeter, and measure the current poten-
put and feedback to the PLC. But I’ve got to use tial between the heater and the ground. That won't
what I have. Fault current is if a heater shorts to tell you WHERE the current is coming from, but it
ground (Titanium sheath). This would put 277VAC will tell you how big the leak is. When you know
current into the anode, and short out who knows how big the leak is, then you'll know if it is a situa-
what. tion where all you have to do is a little housekeep-
ing, or if you have your heater leaning on the cath-
DaveO
ode bus.
Guys,
RIPPLE is NOT superimposed AC, as your replies Finally, why is a little plating on your heater such a
indicate. Ripple is defined as "...the extent to which problem? If you don't have a problem using the
the DC (from a rectifier) deviates from the wrong type of heater in your acid copper, so what
ideal..." (ref. ELECTROPLATING by Frederick A. if it plates out a little? If the plating gets too thick
Lowenheim pp. 160). By nature of the alternating on the heater sheath, chip it off and put it back in
current being rectified (converted to DC), and by the anode baskets where it belongs, and with the
the nature of the filtration of the rectified current, money you save, tell your cheapskate boss to buy
the "Ripple" can be as much as 50%, or very close a Teflon coated heater!
to 0. Dr. Lowenheim goes on to relate that ripple is
normally of little importance in electroplating op- DustinGebhardt
erations. In chrome plating, ripple is a problem. It I was wrong to deviate off topic. Ripple is a topic
is not a problem in copper plating. Superimposed for another discussion, I suppose. My initial reply
AC could cause problems in bright acid copper was to add a small wire from the anode bussing to
plating. the heater outer tube. The idea here was to make
It should also be noted that ripple is not going to the heater anodic so that you would force the cop-
cause heaters to plate out, and neither will super- Continued on next page….
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per buildup to stop, and even slowly dissolve back looses contact with the cathode system, it briefly
into solution. has no strong polarity to it and can be subject to
The reason for the buildup in the first place could bipolarity. If the bipolarity is strong enough, it can
stem from several reasons. In my experience, bipo- cause part of the piece to become passive, and
larity and stray current are the 2 most com- subsequent operations can fail. Duplex nickel (or
mon. We haven't really discussed bipolarity here, 3x or 4x, too) is particularly sensitive to this in my
but it is when a strong magnetic or electric field experience. By simply adding a small wire from
creates induces another magnetic or electric field the anode system to the heater, you introduce a
nearby. Think of a bar magnet and several nearby small positive charge to the heater, which will pre-
iron nails. Each nail in turn becomes slightly mag- vent the bipolarity from forming.
netic as it enters the field of the main mag-
DaveO
net. One end of the nail becomes slightly "North"
Bipolarity is also a potential factor. Is only one end
and the other end is slightly "South". You could
being plated? That is the simplest way to check for
daisy-chain the nails together if the magnet is
bipolarity. I still think he needs to check the poten-
strong enough to affect them all.
tial above ground first. How much current is there?
Electricity is very similar to magnetism. If you If this is such a problem, how come we're the only
have a piece of conductive material (your heater) ones talking about it? ~FT~
floating around near a strong electric field, and it
does not already have an electrical current passing Join in on the conversation and other finishing dis-
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to assume a slight current flow. This is why live installment of ‘From the Forum’.
entry and live exit are so commonly used. As a
part is being removed from a plating bath and it
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W hat is Anodizing?
Developed more than 60 years
gral to the metal and cannot
peel or flake. The coating's
structure consists of many small
chip, flake, or chalk.
• Anodic coatings are translu-
cent, resulting in a deep, rich
ago, anodizing is a simple elec- pores that can be used to color metallic appearance.
trochemical process that forms the aluminum. Once color is
a protective coating of alumi- added, these pores are sealed • Anodic coatings are scarcely
num oxide on the aluminum to provide durability. This dura- affected by sunlight.
surface. The finish is very dura- bility has been recognized by • Anodic coatings are excellent
ble; however the lifetime of the the aerospace industry, which finishes for areas subject to fili-
finish is proportional to the selected anodizing as the finish form corrosion, especially struc-
thickness and density of the of choice for the Space Station. tures in coastal locations.
anodic coating as well as the
Advantages of Anodizing • The anodizing process uses
quality of the seal.
• Anodizing can be less expen- chemicals without VOCs, and
Aluminum oxide is a hard, dura- sive to produce and maintain. aluminum itself is recyclable.
ble, weather resistant coating • Anodic coatings are highly • Anodized aluminum can be
that protects the base metal. abrasion-resistant and durable. colored in a full spectrum of
The coating may be clear or It is particularly durable in high- shades.
colored using various methods. traffic areas where the coating
The coating itself grows from is subject to physical abuse and • Several coloring techniques
the base aluminum metal by abrasive cleaners. offer weather fastness suitable
way of the electrochemical
• Anodic coatings do not peel,
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for architectural applications. cleaning often results in a re- treatment plants cannot handle
Anodizing: the Renewable newed appearance. Anodized the solids generated in the ano-
Finish. surfaces, like other building com- dizing process, equipment is
A thicker and denser anodic ponents, must be protected from available that enables anodizers
coating carries the advantages of chemical attack after installation. to remove aluminum hydroxide
durability and longer life. After Anodizing and the Environ- solids from the effluent.
many years, an anodized surface ment Color
may accumulate dirt and stains There are environmental advan- In most situations, anodized
that look similar to chalking tages to selecting anodizing as coatings exhibit excellent color
paint. This film can be removed an architectural finish. The proc- consistency, but this does not
with a mild detergent applied ess does not require the use of mean that anodizing yields per-
with an abrasive cleaning tech- solvents that contain volatile or- fectly consistent color. Custom-
nique. A small amount of the ganic complounds (VOCs) and no ers must be careful in selecting
anodic coating can actually be heavy metals are involved. the colors to be used and should
removed, leaving behind a re- have the metal processed at the
Chemical wastes from anodizing
newed anodized finish, preserv- same time and in the same place
are used by many municipal
ing the original appearance. whenever possible to reduce the
wastewater treatment facilities
likelihood of color variation.
When a paint film fails, the usual to balance pH levels of treated
options are to recoat the surface water. The aluminum hydroxide Care must be taken when apply-
with another paint or replace the from the effluent of anodizing ing touch-up paints to anodized
metal. Scrubbing can damage a plants improves the separation finishes because a perfect match
painted finish. When an anodized of solids in wastewater treat- is impossible between the fac-
coating appears to have failed, ment plants. If local wastewater tory-applied finish and a finish
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applied in the field. For this rea- parisons as the criteria for color There are many options for fin-
son, touch-up paints are a matching and for the most part ishing aluminum, and this is
problem for both painted and color reproducibility has not one reason aluminum is such a
anodized coatings. been a problem. Color evalua- popular material. It is not al-
Customers often present ques- tion using color instruments is ways easy to decide which fin-
tions about color variation helpful but not the solution to ish to apply. Communicate your
within the context of color producing a consistent color needs with your finisher or your
range. A "range" implies a two- match. To avoid problems, the finisher's supplier. Consider not
dimensional axis, for example, customer should agree on color only appearance, but also the
a range from light to dark. Re- standards with the anodizer. environment, maintenance re-
search has shown that lightness Durability quirements, and life cycle costs.
is only one of at least three di- Coating thickness is a signifi- The Aluminum Anodizers
mensions of appearance. Most cant indicator of durability for Council
people are familiar with the anodized coatings. Coating In 1988, a group of anodizers
controls on a television set that thickness for architectural use and suppliers, concerned that
affect brightness, color, and can be specified as either Class the market was unaware of the
hue. When these same three 1 (0.7 mil) or Class 2 (0.4 mil) features and benefits of anodiz-
components of appearance are per Aluminum Association DAF ing, formed the Aluminum Ano-
combined with gloss and tex- 45. However, oftentimes there dizers Council. The Council
ture, we have at least four vari- is no specification. When there works to promote the advan-
ables that can influence appear- is no specification, the least ex- tages of anodizing, serves as a
ance besides light and dark. pensive option is usually used, technical resource center for
and in a few years the finish is members and customers, pro-
The word range is discouraged
pitted, stained, and eroded. An- vides technical information
when describing color. It is bet-
other important determinant of through workshops, articles and
ter to focus on scientific color
coating life is its density. The seminars, and develops and
measurement systems that in-
denser the coating, the longer upgrades industry standards.
clude color, lightness, and
it will last. Conclusion
gloss. With scientific color
measurement techniques, a Low-cost anodized sheets are Anodizing is the superior finish.
production run can be com- often sold with a coating thick- Its appearance, abrasion resis-
pared objectively to an ap- ness of 0.15 mil. A finish of this tance and cost effectiveness are
proved standard. If a compo- thickness also might be called a unlikely to be matched by any
nent is significantly different 200, A21, A22 or A24. While organic coating. We invite you
from an approved standard, the this coating thickness is suitable to specify anodizing, as it truly
finisher should not ship it. It is for many applications, the in- is a versatile finish for many
also the customer's responsibil- tegrity of this finish will not last applications, from storefront to
ity to avoid using metal that is more than a few years in exte- handrail; from automotive to
not acceptable. When large rior architectural applications decorative applications. If you
anodized panels or extrusions and the expected lifetime is are considering the use of an
are used in close proximity to much less in coastal environ- anodized finish for an architec-
each other, it may be possible ments. Coating thickness makes tural application – or for an-
to see color variations. In appli- an even more important differ- other use – you are encouraged
cation, it is common to sort ence in the durability of organi- to contact an AAC member
parts to obtain the desired ef- cally dyed finishes. Dyes fade firm. Click on the Member Di-
fect. more quickly with thinner coat- rectory below to find an ano-
ings since they contain less dizer near you. ~FT~
The industry has visual com-
color substance.
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