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## V EXPLANATION OF ARUDAPADA BY PT.SANJAY RATH

The term Arudha Pada is also commonly called PADA. Arudha means "MOUNT' and refers to the IMAGE of a sign falling on another due to 'reflection of the rays emanating from it and being reflected by its lord. Keeping the reflection in view, the Karaka (Significator) can be taken to be the Moon. Count from a sign to its lord. Then count as many signs from the lord to arrive at the ARUDHA PADA. For example, if the Lagna Lord is in the fifth house, then count five signs from the Lagna lord to arrive at the ninth house. This ninth house becomes the arudha Pada for the Lagna. Exception: The Arudha Pada cannot be in the same sign or the seventh from it. In case this happens, then choose the tenth house therefrom. For example, if the Lagna Lord is in the 4th house, then the Arudha lagna should be in the 4th from the 4th house i.e. the 7th house. But since this is not allowed, the tenth therefrom should be chosen. The tenth from the 7th house is the 4th house and the 4th house becomes the Arudha Lagna. This is also called PADA LAGNA or ARUDHA LAGNA. In this manner we can compute the Arudha Pada for all the houses and these are called Dhana Pada (2nd), Bhratripada (3rd), Matri Pada (4th), Mantrapada (5th), Satrupada (6th), Dara Pada (7th), Roga pada (8th), Bhagyapada (9th), Rajyapada (10th), Labhapada (11th) and Upapada (12th).

## V ANOTHER DETAILAED PRESENTATION ON ARUDA BY MR.NARASIMHA

RAO World is swayed by maya A gentleman I know owns a scooter, with which he is very happy. He owned it for 15 years and he is very fond and proud of it. He rides it to work everyday. I know Another gentleman who owns three fine cars, but not happy with any of them and always hoping to buy something better. If you ask someone, 'which of these two gentlemen is more blessed with happiness from vehicles - the one with a scooter or the one with three cars', the answer you are likely to get is 'the one with three cars'. The world has its own perceptions. The material world is swayed by maya or illusion. The same thing is true for most aspects of life. If I tell you when you come to me that a central minister just left my home after astrological consultations, you will probably think that I am a good astrologer. If I tell you in our first meeting that I don't demand a fixed fee for my astrological

consultations and take whatever clients happily give, you will probably think that I am not a good astrologer. Is every astrologer consulted by central ministers necessarily good? Can't an astrologer who does not demand a large fee be good? If I tell you I did my B.Tech at lIT, you will probably think that I am a smart person. If I tell you I did my B.Tech at "Varala Venkata Subbayya Engineering College', you will probably not get the same impression. Is everyone at lIT necessarily smarter than everyone at the latter college? Probably not. However, we always jump to conclusions and form ideas and perceptions that are possibly wrong, because we are swayed by the maya of this material world. Outer trappings matter more than the inner truth. How people perceive and judge a native is guided by the maya of this material world. Those perceptions are merely illusions and the reality can be different from them. The question in front of astrologers is: 'How do we distinguish between the illusions of the material world and the reality?' The answer to this important question lies in the use of arudha padas, defined by Computing arudha padas Arudha pada of a house is computed using the following method: (1) Rule: Measure the number of signs from the house of interest to its lord. Measure the same number of signs from the lord. The resultant sign contains the arudha pada of the house. Example 1: Lagna is in Gemini and Mercury is in Aries. Let us say we need to find (a) arudha lagna (arudha pada of the 1st house) and (b) matri pada (arudha pada of 4th house). Solution: (a) Lagna is in Gemini. Its lord Mercury is in Aries, i.e., 11th from Gemini. Count the 11th house from Mercury. It is Aquarius. So arudha lagna is in Aquarius. (b) The 4th house is in Virgo. Its lord Mercury is in 8th from it. Counting the 8th from Mercury, we get Scorpio. So matri pada is in Scorpio. (2) Exception: Arudha pada of a house cannot be in the 1st or 7th from the house. If the arudha pada computed above falls in the 1st or 7th from the original house for which we are finding arudha pada, then the 10th house from what was found above becomes the arudha pad a. NOTE: It may be noticed that arudha pada of a house can only be in the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 9th, 10th and 11th from the house. This is because the illusion is

always separated from the reality. Example 2: Lagna is in Aries and Sun is in Aquarius. Let us say we need to find mantra pada (arudha pada of 5th house). Solution: From Aries lagna, the 5th house is in Leo. From Leo, its lord Sun is in 7th. Counting the 7th from Sun, we get Leo itself. But arudha pada of a house cannot be in the house itself or the 7th from it. So we find the 10th from what we found above, i.e. Leo, and get Taurus. Example 3: Lagna is in Taurus and Moon is in Libra. Let us say we need to find bhratri pada (arudha pada of 3rd house). Solution: From Taurus lagna, the 3rd house is in Cancer. From Cancer, its lord Moon is in 4th. Counting the 4th from Moon, we get Capricorn (7th from Cancer!). But arudha pada of a house cannot be in the house itself or the 7th from it. So we find the 10th from what we found above, i.e. Capricorn, and get Libra. (3) Caution: Parasara said that Aquarius is owned by Saturn and Rahu both and Scorpio is owned by Mars and Ketu both. When finding arudha padas of houses falling in these two signs, we have to consider both the lords. If one of the lords occupies the sign (e.g. Saturn in Aquarius), the other lord (e.g. Rahu) should be used. Otherwise, we have to take the stronger lord. Usually a planet in conjunction with more planets is stronger. A more elaborate set of rules can be found in standard references. Some scholars (e.g. Sri K.N. Rao) prefer to ignore the exception in (2) above, but both Parasara and Jaimini mentioned it and it cannot be ignored. Moreover, the following point may be considered by learned men: Some results are attributed in literature to the mutual shashthashtaka (6th/8th) positions of arudha lagna and dara pada (arudha pada of 7th). If this exception is ignored, it can be mathematically proved that arudha lagna and dara pada will always be in mutually odd houses and mutual shashthashtaka position of these two padas can never occur! Why did maharshis talk about a combination that never occurs? The readers are urged not to ignore these exceptions. There is another thing to remember: Though many scholars find arudha padas only in rasi chart, they are equally valid in divisional charts.

## Use of arudha lagna

Lagna is satya peetha or the seat of truth. Arudha lagna is maya peetha or the seat of illusion. Both stand for self, but they stand for different shades of self.

Lagna stands for true self and arudha lagna stands for perceived self. Arudha lagna stands for 'self, as peceived by this maya world'. Classics attribute many matters to each house. By using divisional charts, we can resolve many clashes. For example, 5th house stands for son, mantra, judgment, fame etc. Using divisional charts, we can see that 5th house in saptamsa stands for son and 5th house in vimsamsa stands for mantra. However, we sometimes have a clash even after going to the correct divisional chart. For example, intelligence and academic success are both to be seen in chaturvimsamsa (chart of learning) and the 5th house shows both. In such cases, we have to see which matter is seen from lagna and which from arudha lagna. We said that Parasara prescribed chaturvimsamsa chart for learning and knowledge and the 5th house is supposed to show success in competition and fame, as well as intelligence. An intelligent person usually succeeds in competition, but it is not necessary always! How do we resolve this clash? We do it by using lagna for one and arudha lagna for the other. Lagna shows true self. Whether one is intelligent or not, is related to true self. But whether one is successful in a competitive examination or not, is related to perceived self. An intelligent person may fail and one of average intelligence may succeed. It is related to perceptions. So use lagna as a reference when judging one's intelligence and use arudha lagna when judging success in competition and fame. In dasamsa - the chart of achievements in society, i.e. career - the 5th house can show one's judgment, balance and discretion in career and also professional reputation. Which should be seen from lagna and which from arudha lagna? Judgment, balance and discretion are related to true self and they are seen from the 5th from lagna. Reputation is seen from the 5th from arudha lagna, because it is a part of maya and related to perceived self. In this manner, we can choose the correct divisional chart and the correct reference (lagna or arudha lagna), based on the nature of the matter of interest. Money is related more to arudha lagna than lagna. This is why Jaimini talked about planets in the 11th and 12th houses from arudha lagna when talking

about savings and expenditures. We find that Sudasa (rasi dasa) of the 11th house from arudha lagna invariably improves finances. If someone has lagna in Aries, arudha lagna in Cancer and Sun in Scorpio, Sun dasa may bring reputation and worries at the same time. Reputation is given by Sun in the 5th from arudha lagna and worries are given by Sun in the 8th from lagna. Thus arudha lagna basically shows the perceptions and illusions of the world about the native and it is useful for many materialistic aspects of life.

## Use of other arudha padas

Just as arudha lagna shows the manifestation of the native (lagna) in this maya world, arudha padas of individual houses show the manifestation of the house matters in this maya world. Arudha pada of a house show the maya associated with the matters signified by that house. Let us denote the arudha pada of nth house by An (e.g. A4 for matri pada and A5 for mantra pada). In chaturvimsamsa, the 4th house shows one's learning. A4 shows the maya associated with one's learning. What can that be? Well, this maya world places a lot of value on the place and environment in which one learns. Depending on whether one studied at lIT or "Varala Venkata Subbayya Engineering College', we jump to different conclusions about one's knowledge. So the place of study is the illusion associated with learning and it is seen from A4. A very intelligent and learned friend of mine has extremely strong 4th and 5th houses in chaturvimsamsa. He wondered why he always studied at mediocre (his word) colleges and universities, despite such a strong chaturvimsamsa chart. I found A4 in his chaturvimsamsa chart and it was afflicted by Saturn! The 4th house in shodasamsa chart shows one's happiness from vehicle. It doesn't show how expensive the vehicle is. One can be very happy with a Bajaj Chetak and someone else can be very unhappy with a Mercedes Benz. The 4th house only shows how happy one is with one's vehicle. It doesn't show whether one owns a scooter or a Mercedes Benz. That is shown by A4, the maya associated with vehicle. We can see a lot of details about one's vehicle (physical vehicle!) from A4 in shodasamsa. Similarly AlO in dasamsa shows the maya associated with

karma (action), i.e. one's workplace! Dusthanas from AlO show bad time for the company one works for or a change of workplace. In dwadasamsa, 9th house shows father. It actually shows happiness from father and relations with him. A9 stands for the maya associated with the concept of father, i.e. the material existence of father and his status. So A9 can be used as a reference in dwadasamsa and some inferences can be drawn about father. The 8th house from A9 shows material setbacks to father and the 5th house from A9 shows father's fame. Understand Illusions of the world about a native are just one side of the maya of this world. There is another side - illusions of the native about the world and himself. These are shown by the arudha padas of planets and let us leave them for now. A mature astrologer can distinguish between reality and illusion and use the correct tools in his astrological analysis. One can deduce the meanings of various arudha padas in various divisional charts, keeping in mind that arudha padas basically show maya associated with various matters. VARIOUS QUESIONS RELATED TO ARUDAPADA ASKED BY MR.JAAN V VARIOUS ANSWERS BY MR.GAURANGA DAS QUESTION]. I am having trouble understanding how to interpret arudha lagnas of various houses and charts. V ANSWER 1. 1st principle. Arudha of a house represents the maya (reflection or illusion) connected to it. Arudhas of the houses will represent others' illusions about your affairs. Arudhas of the planets, on the other side will represent your illusions about others (moving entities signified by the planets). QUESTION 2. What is the difference of arudha lagna in rasi chart and the other divisional charts? V ANSWER 2. Arudha Lagna is the reflection of the self (how others perceive it). In D-1 it is the general perception about you, in the other D-charts it is always the perception in connection with that D-chart. Like AL in D-9 will show

2. The planets occupying it 3. The planets aspecting it (First Rasi Dristi then Graha Dristi) 4. Its lord 5. The significators connected to it (Sthira, Chara and Naisargika should also be taken into consideration). TASK: What is the difference in considering the three types of Karakas) 6. Analyze the different houses from it (i.e take the house as Lag na).For example the 2nd from it will show the Phala, the 3rd the relations, the 4th the place, the 5th the consequences, the 6th the enemies, the 7th the partners, the 8th the longevity, the 9th the dharma, the 10th the karma, the 11th the gains, the 12th the losses connected to the significations of that house. E.g. lord of any house in the 12th from it may bring the decrease of the results of that house. Please also take into consideration that 3rd and 8th give life to it, whether 2nd and 7th give death. This way of analysis may be extended to any house, Arudha, etc. QUESTION 7. Do you look for yogas taking the arudha lagna in question as a lagna? V ANSWER 7.Yes, there's a possibility to do this, same as from Surya Lagna, Chandra Lagna, Varnada etc. and other special Lagnas, taking into consideration the properties of that type of Lagna. 1-1 QUESTION 8. Say looking at arudha lagna in D12 chart, do you take it as lagna and look at the whole chart as such? V ANSWER 8.Yes, you may do that, and this will show how others perceive of You in relation to your parents. QUESTION 9. The same for A9? take it as lagna and analyse the chart as such? V ANSWER 9. Same. Please also consider Narasimha's mail on Residence on The VA list. ANOTHER RELATED QUEASTION BY Mr. BRAHMA I have one more question to ask regarding the aruda and its interpretation.

If a Planet is a functional malefic with respect to lagna but is owning a quadrant/trine wrt AL. How do you interpret the effects of the said planet. wrt lagna the effects can be bad or mixed , however wrt AL it is supposed to be a RY. Does it mean that the said planet will be a good benefactor in the eyes of the world while in reality it may not be so? v' ANSWER BY Mr.GAURANGA DAS Correct. You're on the right path. ANOTHER RELATED QUESTION BY MS.VISTI What does the arudha mean? I'm aware of the Arudha padas, being used to determine the Maya and illusion of the world, but in simple terms this does confuse me. V ANSWER BY MR. NARASIMHA RAO Lagna shows the true self and arudha lagna shows the perceived self. It shows how the world perceives a person. Let us take the 5th house, for example, which rules intelligence and success in competition. Whether you are intelligent or not relates to your true self and the 5th house from lagna shows it. But success in competition is a measure of your intelligence in the view of this world. These measures are simply an illusion. A person considered by the world as smart may not be that smart and the world may not realize the intelligence of a really smart person. This world is constantly under illusion and we form impressions about people that need not be correct. Arudha lagna shows this. If you want to judge a person's success in competition, you should prefer arudha lagna to lagna, as it is related to the illusion of the world. Now the issue is: what is reality and what is an illusion? I do not think I can teach that to you. This realization should come to you on its own. I can teach this hundred times, but one will correctly understand this only when it is in one's destiny. But I will try again. Try to think about it after reading. Lagna shows the true self. Houses from lagna qualify it. Arudha lagna shows perceived self (the image of the self in this world) and houses from it qualify it.

Arudha pada of nth house shows the things based on which the world forms an impression about the matters of nth house. We form an impression about one's happiness from vehicles based on the vehicle he owns. If one owns a BMW, we think he is happy. If one owns a Toyota Tercel, we may think that he is unhappy. Based on how good (supposedly) a car one owns, we conclude how happy one is.That is simply an illusion. One's true happiness from vehicles is shown by the 4th house from lagna (in D-16, the chart of vehicles and comforts). One's car is shown by A4 (arudha pada of 4th) in D-1 6, as one's car is the thing based on which the world forms an impression about one's happiness from vehicles. If A4 is strong and 4th is weak, one has a supposedly good car but unhappy. If A4 is weak and 4th is strong, one has a supposedly bad car, but happy. When you take a divisional chart and a house, understand its true meaning. Understand which matter it shows. Then try to come up with the thing based on which the world forms an impression about that matter. That thing will be what the arudha pada of that house shows! p RELATED QUESTION BYMR-ROBERT With regard to lagna and Arudha lagna, I'm a little unclear on the following written by Sanjay and mentioned by you also. Lagna is the seat of truth and exposes the physical layer, while arudha lagna is the seat of illusion and shows the materialistic layer of life and perceptions. To me, there is little difference between the physical layer, and the materialistic layer. Can you explain how to differentiate? v' ANSWER BY MR. NARASIMHA RAO The word "physical' that I used doesn't exactly describe it. Lagna shows true self and arudha lagna shows perceived self. Arudha lagna (AL) has to do with 'maya' or illusions of this world. I have already given a couple of examples. Whether one is intelligent and sharp has to do with true self (lagna), whereas AL is the best to see whether one is perceived as a sharp person or not. Success in competitions and fame are things that measure inherent abilities

(of true self) with the yardsticks of this world. So they have to do with perceived self and AL is better. This is why I suggest 5th from lagna for intelligence and 5th from arudha lagna for fame and success in competitions. The 9th house shows foreign residence and also fortune. Foreign residence is not a matter of illusion or perception. If one lives far away from his birthplace, it is the truth and it has to do with true self. On the other hand, whether one is fortunate or not is based on the illusions and perception yardsticks of material world and AL is more important. Material prosperity (like money) may have to do with both true self and perceived self, but perceptions are perhaps more important. I have seen 1st, 2nd and 11th from AL to be more useful when judging Sudasa (dasa used for money), for example. If 8th from lagna contains 11th from AL, one may work hard (physical self under strain) and increase bank balance (material gains) during the Sudasa of that sign. Whether one has the happiness of a vehicle or not has to do with true self. But whether one owns an expensive car or a cheap car is a matter of perceptions and illusions of material world and so arudha is important. In essence, arudhas deal with perceptions. They deal with things and concepts that have to do with perceptions and that come into being because of the many illusions of this material world. On the contrary, lagna deals with what is real, true and intrinsic. Narayan's summary is one apt way of saying it. A better way of saying it is: one deals with what is true and one with illusions. But it is really tough to teach this concept clearly. One has to 'feel' it and realize it by oneself. If you are under strong Venusian influence and are too swayed by the 'maya' of materialistic Venus, you may not understand this concept or understand it incorrectly. What is 'real' and what is 'illusive' can differ from person to person, based on one's natal and dasa influences. .- RELATED QUESTIONBYMR.NARAYAN It seems that you give more importance to Arudha Lagnas(Special Jaimini Lagnas) in vargas

than the usual Asc.for that particular varga. Going by this, can i say that A7 & AL in D9 are to be given importance for marriage/relationship issues. A4 & AL in D4 for House Matters, i.e planets in dusthanas to A4 in D4 and badly placed wrt AL in D4 can cause change of residence. V ANSWER BY MR. NARASIMHA RAO Each lagna has a specific purpose. I give importance to arudha lagna and special lagnas of Parasara, but I give importance to normal lagna also. For example, if I were to guess your career (assuming the D-10 you gave to be accurate), I would look at 10th from *lagna* and noting that 10th lord Mercury is in 8th in Aries, I would predict an uneasy and dynamic career in high-tech software, logic and analysis. Lagna is satya peetha (Truth) and arudha lagna is maayaa peetha (illusion). Your status (e.g. powerful, weak, boss, servant) is an illusion, but your nature (nice, dominating, scholarly) is the truth. Influences on lagna in D-10 show your nature and influences on AL in D-10 show your status. The 10th house from lagna shows the karma (action, i.e. work done in career). If you do logical and analytical work (because 10th is in Gemini), it is the truth. But workplace and its status are an illusion and they are seen from the arudha pada (maya/illusion) of 10th house. If one understands what houses and their arudha padas stand for, one will realize that the two are not mutually exclusive and that they are equally important.

A7: Arudhapada of the seventh house is also called the DARAPADA and is used to determine the sexuality of the individual. It is the place from where the native comes across members of the opposite sex and is physically attracted towards them.

I have a continuing interest in Sanjay's explanation of the Upapada. Some time ago, Sanjay explained that the Upapada and its second were actually opposites, with the Upapada being the beginning of married life, and the second being the end of it. I also recall Sanjay's advise that one should look at where Ketu is located relative to the Upapada, since it is a first rate benefic.

Sanjay, in addition to Frank's questions, I have another one that's related. If Ketu behaves in this manner (i.e. as a benefic), what is the significance of Ketu when it's placed within the Upapada? V ANSWER BY PT.SANJAY RATH Fortunate is the man who is to be guided in the Divine path by his spouse. That is the meaning of Ketu in Upapada. Ketu gives Kulasya Unnatim in Upapada and the family rises. Spouse is very spiritual, especially after 43 years, but can be whimsical and will also have other characteristics seen in Sadhu's. Unless Darapada aspects Upapada, the sexuality will not be the focus of marriage.

REPLY BY PT.SANJAY RATH FOR A QUESTION ON DARAPADA AND U PAPADA
This difference between the darapada and the Upapada is to be examined in the Divisions as well. For example, the Darapada indicates all PARTNERS. The first is spouse your spouse for life and the second is Your bed partner (s) depending on the level of promiscuity in the chart. The third is the Business and partners. Thus, the first two are seen from the Navamsa whereas the last is seen from the Dasamsa in addition to the Rasi chart. If the readings of the rasi and Navamsa/ dasamsa as the case maybe are the same, then the event will surely happen. If there is a doubt, then the reading of the divisional chart shall prevail.

REPLY BY MR.NARASIMHA RAO Along the same lines, one can say that darapada (arudha pada of 7th house) in D-24 (chart of learning and intellect) shows one's partners in intellectual activities and darapada in D-20 (chart of religious and spiritual activities) shows one's partners in religious activities. You have darapada in Pisces in D-24 and D-20. It is occupied by Jupiter in D-24. These may be the reasons for your association with ISKCON swamis and other religious people in the matter of intellectual and religious activities. Darapada in Pisces with Jupiter in it, in D-24, can show intellectual

association with religious people or people learned in traditional sastras or people with Pisces lagna or people with a strong Jupiter. (We two havelagna and 3 planets in same rasis in D-24 and I also have the same combination in D-24. So I may also have intellectual association with similar people.) To give another example, Nehru had Venus (with 5 bindus in a sign with 35 bindus!!) in darapada in D-24 and hence he had intellectual association with refined, diplomatic and cultured people represented by Venus. A client who is a journalist by profession - he was nominated for the Pulitzer once - has Sun with 6 bindus in Cancer in darapada in D-24! This shows intellectual association with art loving politicians and people in the high society. REPLY BY PT.SANJAY RATH That is truly brilliant. I thought that none would ever get that about the D-20 Chart of mine. You have again proved your mettle. Do you recall that once i mentioned that Jupiter in my chart represents Sri Jagannath Mahaprabhu. During Leo Dasa Pisces antardasa, I traveled to Pun and had many beautiful days at Pun. The problem is that most people take Jupiter to mean Lord Siva or Indra blindly. This is not correct. Jupiter represents the Kula and Ista devata first. I am a Brahmin from Pun and Jupiter will represent My Guru's, Sri Jagannatha (Ista Devata) and Sri Somanath (Shiva) (Kula devata) when considered with the Devata karaka, Atmakaraka and Amatyakaraka respectively. Darapada

p QUESTION BYMR.PARAKASH Could you please clarify this fine point. Do you find Darapada in the Rashi chart (in my case it would be my 10th House with Saturn, Rahu in Gemini) and look at where Gemini is in Divisional charts or do Ifind the Darapada in each Divisional charts individually and judge them? V ANSWER BY MR. NARASIMHA RAO You find darapada in EACH divisional chart treating it as a rasi chart. Darapada shows partners in general. In rasi/navamsa, it can show bed partners. In dasamsa, it can show business partners and colleagues in career. When Sanjay mentioned these points, I was saying that darapada in D-24 shows partners in the pursuit of knowledge and darapada in D-20 shows partners in spiritual progress. 10th house from Arudha QUESTION BYMR.SARJITPODDAR I know that any planet in the 10th from Lagna is good for the native in giving material success. Isn't this true with their placement in the 10th from Arudha lagna. This is with reference to your mail saying that retrograde Saturn in the 10th from AL cause hindrances to material success. V'ANSWER BY PT.SANJAY RATH Not with a malefic, even if he is the lord of Arudha Lagna. In the case of a minister

of the Delhi Government having Kanya (Virgo) lagna with Saturn in exaltation in the second, and the AL in Capricorn, with the advent of Saturn dasa he was accused of having illicit relations and a child from a servant. He also broke his leg. I advised Rudrabhishek and pacification with the Mritunjaya mantra (Parasara) and he came out of the mess. In the case of Dr. Murli manohar Joshi present Minister (Cabinet-HRD) in GOl, Jupiter is in the 8th house in Virgo (Lagna is Aquarius). Everybody said that bad days were ahead, whereas I predicted that he will become a senior minister and will also have an excellent reputation due to Jupiter being in the 10th house from Arudha lagna (in Sagittarius). These predictions have become true and the reasons are also clear. 3rd from Arudha QUESTIONBYMRJ?AVI What is the reasoning behind 3rd from AL showing the place of death, in my chart 3rd from AL is Sagittarius which is the lagna itself with Mercury, which is a maraka and also Maheshwara for the chart, so does that make Sagittarius and Mercury killers in my chart. v' ANSWER BY MR.GAURANGA DAS The 3rd sign from AL shows place of death. The planets in it or aspecting it by Rasi

Drsihti show the cause of death. What is the logic behind this? Arudha Lagna represents the body. The 3rd from it is the 8th from the 8th, thus showing the end of life or the causes thereof. The 3rd from Jupiter is indicative of the spouse's death circumstances. The 3rd from the stronger of Sun and Venus shows the same for father, the 3rd from the stronger of Moon and Mars for mother. So the Sthira Karakas have to be used. Jaimini also explains more rules: Look at the 3rd and 8th from AL as well. Usually the 3rd will determine death, but if the 8th is stronger then 8th one. Look at the Navamshas ocuppied by the planets conjoining these houses. These are called death inflicting Navamshaas, and they or the 2nd or 6th from them may give a clue to the cause and circumstances of death. this is all given in the Upadesha Sutras. I just looked the chart of a Tuberculosis patient, who has Moon, Mars and Jupiter in Pisces in the 3rd from AL. This is a sure combination for death due to Tuberculosis and Pneumonia. Moon points to pulmonary diseases, Mars to operations and Jupiter to vomiting or throat choking. But Pisces is a benefic sign showing a nice place for death (maybe a holy place as the person is a devotee of Krishna), and Jupiter shows

awareness at the time of death. Besides that Jupiter in Pisces is conducive to Moksha. 3rd from Arudha QUESTION FROM MR.MANAS KUMAR Ifollow the logic about the 8th house (transformation death) but not sure fyou explained the reason for 3rd house. How does Parashara explain? V ANSWER BY PT.SANJAY RATH 3rd is the Pada for the 8th i.e. 8th from the 8th and will give the place of death. This is seen from Audha Lagna. Jaimini gives a lot of details about this. For example the AL of Mahatma Gandhi was in Cancer and the third from this is Virgo (Garden) with the Sun (Small firearms etc.) in it. He was assassinated while strolling in the garden with a bullet from a gun. Thus the teachings of Parasara and Jaimini are right.