Casio fx-3800P

Datasheet

Years of production: New price:

1986

Display type: Display color: Display technology:

Numeric display Black Liquid crystal display 10+2 digits Algebraic with precedence Trig Exp Hyp Lreg Cmem BaseN

Size: Weight:

5"3"" 4 oz

Display size:

Entry method: Batteries: External power: I/O: Programming model: Precision: Memories: Program memory: Chipset: 11 digits 7 numbers 135 program steps Program display: Program editing: Forensic result: 1"CR-2025" Lithium Advanced functions:

Memory functions: +/-// Fully-merged keystroke entry

Program functions: Cond

9.0000157179

With its 135 fully merged program step capacity, the fx-3800P could be a respectable high-end programmable calculator. Unfortunately, its generous program capacity is not accompanied by a sophisticated programming model; all that's in there is a simple branch capability, that allows jumping to the beginning of program space only. Worse yet, you cannot edit or view programs; all 135 steps must be entered "in the blind", and if you made a mistake, you can start from the beginning. I first encountered this calculator in its OEM guise as the Radio Shack/Tandy EC-4019. It is on the EC-4019 that I developed the following programming example, which computes the Gamma function for positive arguments:
K1=76.18009173 K2=86.50532033 K3=24.01409824 K4=1.231739572 K5=1.208650974E-3 K6=5.395239385E-6

Min Kout 1(MR+1)-Kout 2(MR+2)+Kout 3(MR+3)-Kout 4(MR+4)+Kout 5(MR+5)Kout6(MR+6)+1=(2 MR(MR+5.5)xy(MR+.5)(MR+5.5)+/-ex=

Data Sheets
Information in these datasheets comes from many sources. I do not claim that all the information presented here is accurate and reliable. Years of production and price information is collected from Internet sources, such as the HP Calculator Museum. Sometimes, in the absence of reliable information, the figures are my estimates. If I could not provide a reasonable estimate, I left these fields blank. Information about size, weight, batteries and battery packs comes from examining the actual units in my collection. Size and weight information is approximate. Programming information is based on the manuals and my experience with these calculators. For instance, even though the Texas Instruments SR-52 is described in the manual as having 20 memories, I used the figure of 22, because, as many SR-52 owners know, an additional two memories (98 and 99) can also be utilized. The following symbols and abbreviatons are used in these calculator data sheets: Ab/c Fractions calculation AC Alternating current BaseN Number base calculations Card Magnetic card storage Cmem Continuous emmory Cond Conditional execution Const Scientific constants Cplx Complex number arithmetic DC Direct current Eqlib Equation library Exp Exponential/logarithmic functions

Fin Financial functions Grph Graphing capability Hyp Hyperbolic functions Ind Indirect addressing Intg Numerical integration Jump Unconditional jump (GOTO) Lbl Program labels LCD Liquid Crystal Display LED Light-Emitting Diode Li-ion Lithium-ion rechargeable battery Lreg Linear regression (2-variable statistics) mA Milliamperes of current Mtrx Matrix support NiCd Nickel-Cadmium rechargeable battery NiMH Nickel-metal-hydrite rechargeable battery Prnt Printer RTC Real-time clock Sdev Standard deviation (1-variable statistics) Solv Equation solver Subr Subroutine call capability Symb Symbolic computing Tape Magnetic tape storage Trig Trigonometric functions Units Unit conversions VAC Volts AC

VDC Volts DC

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Calculator Forensics
Introduction The Forensics Algorithm. Hints and Tricks For Obtaining Guard Digits. Computing the Forensics Algorithm in Radians. Forensics Algorithm Background. Results Table Sorted By Result. Results Table Sorted By Calculator Model. Introduction "Calculator forensics" is a term I've coined which seeks to answer the questions of who originally designed a particular calculator's chip set, what features of a particular calculator have been borrowed from earlier designs, and how has calculator technology spread among the manufacturers. The superficial answer to the first question is "open the calculator and look at the chip." With some calculators, this is a practical answer. However, many calculators cannot be opened without damaging the case or are constructed in such a manner that it is not practical to view the part number. Or even worse, the identifying markings on the chip's package are not useful (e.g. they are an ambiguous "house number," or the part number prefix or manufacturer's logo are not recognized). For one calculator in my collection, the only marking on the chip's package is "IC" in big letters, which is not particularly helpful! Answers to the second and third questions require the collection of observations from numerous calculators, coupled with a review of any other published data. The Calculator Forensics Process The calculator forensics process includes reviewing any published technical documentation, observing the physical attributes of the calculator (e.g. number of display digits, internal construction, cosmetic features), the keyboard layout, the key assignments, display font, and indirectly the embedded algorithms. Published technical documentation is particularly difficult to obtain. For the older calculators and their chip sets, data books, service manuals, and secondary source data are difficult to locate. Further, for many of the newer calculators, design information is rarely published. Patents can sometimes provide useful information; Hewlett-Packard and Texas Instruments calculator patents frequently (but not always) describe products that were actually manufactured.

Physical attributes, keyboard layout, display font, and key assignments can be directly observed once you obtain physical possession of the calculator. Despite the limitations discussed above, disassembly may provide further clues about the history of that calculator. For example, disassembly to read date codes off chips or other components is frequently the only way to ascertain the approximate manufacture date of the calculator. The Forensics Evaluation Algorithm Observations regarding the embedded algorithms are also useful in identifying related calculators. Making these observations requires observing the results produced by the embedded algorithms. I believe a standardized evaluation procedure helps in observing the results of embedded algorithms and in comparing these observations to other calculators. The evaluation algorithm I have chosen to use (with the calculator in degrees mode) is: arcsin (arccos (arctan (tan (cos (sin (9) ) ) ) ) ) The keystroke sequence (ignoring 2nd, INV, or ARC keys) is typically: 9, sin, cos, tan, arctan, arccos, arcsin. This algorithm usually produces different results on different calculator models (otherwise it would have no value as an evaluation and comparison tool). In using this algorithm for forensics purposes, it additionally becomes desirable to obtain any extra hidden guard digits that may be present. Some finagling is usually required to get at the hidden guard digits, and care must be taken to avoid the rounding of intermediate results as happens on some calculators (see hints and tricks). Unfortunately, there is no single best method for obtaining these guard digits. See the forensics algorithm background discussion for more information on this algorithm and its history. Results Tables The results of the evaluation algorithm, for forensics purposes, is of limited use without being able to compare it to the results from other calculators. To this end, two tables have been constructed which provide the results from many calculators in my collection along with those from other collectors. Results table sorted by result. Results table sorted by calculator model. Postscript Some people may be tempted to base their evaluation of the "quality" of a vintage calculator on the accuracy and precision of that calculator. However, these are only two components by which to evaluate a vintage calculator. Probably the most important factor to consider in evaluating any vintage calculator is this: does it still work twenty-plus years after it was manufactured? Any product that still functions as well today as it did the day it rolled off the production line over two decades ago is a quality vintage calculator, and a testament to the engineers that designed it.

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