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by Jaycub on January 19, 2010 Table of Contents License: Attribution Non-commercial Share Alike (by-nc-sa) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Intro: Nitrocellulose . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . step 1: Materials . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . step 2: Make the Nitrating solution . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . step 3: Perform the nitration . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . step 4: Clean and dry . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Related Instructables . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Advertisements . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Comments . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 2 2 3 4 4 6 6 6
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step 1: Materials
You will need: -Potassium nitrate (or another nitrate salt) -mortar and pestel -a glass cup -2 containers for water baths -baking soda (already disolved in water in picture) -pliers -cotton balls -sulfuric acid (mine is drain cleaner) -Glass stirring thing (mine is part of a broken jar)
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2. Pliers 3. Glass cup 4. Cup for waterbath 5. Cup for water and baking soda bath 6. Potassium Nitrate 7. Mortar and pestel
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Image Notes 1. The finished solution. I'm not sure why mine is pink but it turned clear later.
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Dr KAZ says:
Sep 3, 2010. 9:11 AM REPLY You could skip the baking soda step and just wash with three portions of water, followed by three portions of methylated spirits (denatured alcohol) to speed up removal of the water. Made a batch today - the spirits (which had a purple dye in it) gave the nitrocellulose a blue tint. It almost looked like cotton candy.
Jaycub says:
Sep 3, 2010. 4:30 PM REPLY Yeah I don't use this process anymore. When I clean it I just use runnung water, and I use pure-ish nitric acid instead of a nitrate salt in the nitration since I got retort. Also an ice bath and a long (12-24 hour) nitration can greatly improve the quality. How did your "cotton candy" work? Did you follow the instructable or did you use a better method?
Dr KAZ says:
Sep 3, 2010. 11:50 PM REPLY The kids loved it (as did my inner pyromaniac). I normally use concentrated nitric and sulphuric acid and agitate at 0C for as long as possible. Yesterday's was only 4 hours and I used (approximately) the nitrating mix you suggested in the instructable.
Nyxius says:
Typically it is the primary non-dynamite form of stump remover 8-)
Jaycub says:
Jan 21, 2010. 3:08 PM REPLY I got it at a store called "the country store" which is loke a co-op. It costed a couple dollars, not sure exactly how much but it wasn't expensive. You also can get it out of fertile dirt like compost. Just put the dirt into warm water to dissolve the potassium nitrate, filter out the solids untill the water is clear, and boil off the water (or let it evaporate).
Feb 17, 2010. 5:32 PM REPLY That explains that method alot better than the Anarchists Cookbook by RFlagg... Our local Ace has some spectrum that I tried to refine, but I couldn't get the water to boil..... it didnt work so well. But the acid might also break down the other components in the stump remover so it is like refining it. I tried this way and i really liked it... i am going to use the APNC version of this to make flash-bangs for paintball and practical jokes.... (instructible coming soon), but I will reference this instructible in it. This made it really easy for me. Thanks and we will be in touch.
Jaycub says:
Feb 18, 2010. 3:09 PM REPLY OK but be careful with the APNC, it is a powerful explosive. I hope you know what you are doing when you make a practical joke out of it.
Feb 19, 2010. 4:17 AM REPLY I know explosives very well. I will only be using pea sized amounts that are attached to larger amounts of nitrocellulose that is exposed and not placed in any closed container....
Nyxius says:
Mar 26, 2010. 6:10 PM REPLY Try using the apnc as your detonator cap and surrounding it with a naptha smoke charge. Makes a ton of smoke. Used typically in the movies.
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Nyxius says:
Mar 26, 2010. 6:13 PM REPLY NC itself is stable and relatively safe especially when wet, but in larger quantities is very dangerous. It is classified as a high explosive and was used in WWII as a rocket propellant. It doesn't take much of a overpressure shock wave to crush a human skull and the classification as a HE means that NC is good at making shock waves.
Jaycub says:
You can detonate NC with a hammer even in small amounts.
Jaycub says:
Feb 19, 2010. 3:48 PM REPLY That's good. By the way, do you have a youtube account with the name plug jug jim? Because there is someone who does that is asking me about flash powder a lot.
Jaycub says:
Over a thousand views, YAY!
Feb 16, 2010. 4:16 AM REPLY I am no trying to be critical, but stump remover is not pure Kno3, you have to refine it for it to be pure.... it is only partly Kno3. But this is very simple and I like it.
Jaycub says:
Feb 16, 2010. 8:54 AM REPLY No not quite pure but it's pretty close. In all my gunpowder and flash powders and stuff that requires kno3 I just use powdered "grants stump remover" an it doesn't seem to reduce the power of these mixtres at all. My guess is that it's probably more than 95% pure. I have recrystalized it before and it didn't help anything.
Feb 16, 2010. 12:44 PM REPLY Now i didnt know that and I am going to try it with both ammonium nitrate ( the purest form of nitrate I have) and stump remover by itself. Thank you and I will be in touch referring to other projects off of this one.
Jaycub says:
Feb 17, 2010. 4:05 PM REPLY Allright cool. Also you might want to know that nitrocellulose that I made using nitric acid (distilled from a nitrate salt and sulfuric acid mix) and sulfuric acid was a lot more powerful. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioWN3RBAfh4
firefreak says:
very nice
Jaycub says:
Thx, are you going to make it?
firefreak says:
almost definitely
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