ACLA 4162

FIRST PUBLIC EXAMINATION

Honour Moderations in Classics (Courses IA and IC)

Hilary Term 2001 PLATO, EUTHYPHRO AND MENO

Wednesday 7 March, 9.30 am -12.30 pm

Answer QUESTION 1 and TWO others

Please do not turn over until told you may do so

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TRANSLATE and write critical comments on TWO of the following passages, and, WITHOUT TRANSLATING, write critical comments on a third.

(a)
v~v ~.aXvp(ov,

o~ ~rpb~A~b~ M~,e lZO, ~ w v ~ l

~rot~&, r~ r b " " eu~fle~ " dpB~

caq~ d~e'va~

" " d~a, ~al rb aefle~ d ra~ ~rep~ dpdvov ra~ 7rep~ r~v ~ v ; ~1 o~ raffro'~ ~a'rw ~v ~rda1? , rrpd,efi, r~ ~~v abrb a~r~, ral rb ~d~*or a~ ro~ lz~v ~avrmv, avro ~ a ~ ol,to~o~ ral bAov Fa~' ~Sea~, ~ara r~i~ avo,rmrrlra ~ra~, ortTrep tu, t~h~, ' 9 5 a~oa'top e~vat; ET. YIdv'r~ ~rov, ~ ~t~Kpare~.

ETO. A~ty~oro[~, ~r~ rb lz~v $o'to'v ~wrw ~Trep " " rto,~, r~ a~,ro~z,r, ~ ~repl dpdpov~ ~l rtep'~ leper rhortaw ~ r, I I ,o ~hAo r~v romffr~ov e~al~apravo~rr, e,~e~eva~, &~"re ~rarrlp e &u rv'D(duij Sd~re lzCp-qp ~:dm'e ~h)to~ 6o'r,~ro~,, rb ~ I.~l
9 9 %

G~O0"*O~.

(PLATO Euthyphro 5c8-e2)

(b)
XI'Z. O,Ko'~v eyere ' " ' rwa~ r ~ , Jt~'eov rata aTroppoa~ 'EF~rd}or~ktta;~MEN. ~.d~pa y e . ~ 2 . Ka2 ~r~pov~ el~ o ~ xal ~L' ~v a~ ?z~roppoal ~rope~o~ra~;~MEN. Hd~v ),e. xo ~ 2 . Ka~ r ~ ~voppo~v r&~ lZ~V ~ptzo'm-ew ~:v[oL~ r~v d lrdpow, r?~ ~ ~hdrrov~ ~l lZe~'~ov~ d ~ a t ; ~ M E N . ~Ea-r, raffra.~F,A2. O~xo'~v ra~ a~ktv rahe~ r , ; ~ M E N . "Ey~oVe. ~2. ' E r ro6ro~v/}~ "~o'~e~ ~ ro~ k~yo~," gdpr ! H~v~apo~.

~rw ~,ap xp~a a~roppo~ xntzdr~ov a~e~ v'm, rpo~ ,,a~

5 alo'OrIrd~. MEN. "Ap~a'rd izo~ ~oreZ~, ~ ~.~rpare~, ra{rrqv r~lu
~.

"Io~ ~dp o~- rata crvmIOeta~ e,prlra,."

tel atza

o/z~v ~a~ ~tha ~ro2~ r~v rowvro0v. MEN. YIdvv/~v o~v. XI2. WpaTudI ),dp earw, ~ Mev~oy, ~! MEN. "E/zo~Te. :Z~2. "A~" o~r ecr,v, 7z ~ra~"

"

efzavrov
(PLATO Meno 76c7-e7)

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(c)
MEN. Z'~o~ce~ro(vm, Izo~, ga Y~xpare~, ape~ dvat, x,~Odarep 6 "~'oo'/'rq~"keye~,' "' X a ~ p e ~ z , " re ~a~o'gct ~a'~ ~ ) v u a o O 'a v " "
Ka~ ~ ro~ro ~.~7oo a eyoo p e r v l " , " ~TrtOvlzo~vrar ~ x a ~ v ~vvarov

~Tr~Ovgrl~, e~,a~;~MEN. Mdk~o'r~ Te.~12. "Apa ?a~

~ur~v rw~v o~ r~v rax~v ~rtOvFo~o'w, ~r~p~v ~ o~ T~V ~yaOSv; o~ ~ravre~; ~pto're, 8o~o~o'( a'o rSv ~TaOSv ~m- C

OvVe~v;~MEN. O~x ~:FO,.Te.--~.,f2,."A~d r~e~ r~v Ka~Gv; ~MEN. N a t . ~ S 2 . Olo'l~a,o, rh ~a~h @aOa eruat, xgre~,,
r~v;--MEN.

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"yt'yvo~o'~oz,,re~ Kaxa " eTr~OvFovcwa~'AFo'repa e~otye ~o~o9w.~.~2. ~H 7hp Mevaw, ytTvooo'Koovr~ ~axa ~rt t~a~a eo-rw ~mOvge.u m ~ r ~ v ; ~ M E N . M~Ma'ra.

(PLATO Meno 77b2-c7)

(d)
Ka~ v~z, ~rep~aper~ b laru, t3,?~ t~v o~,,c o~a, o'b
Vez,' . r .ot . ~ g O m .~ . e~ o ~ d~orL, olaf," ~ ,~O~Xm Fera" ~o~

MEN. Ka2 riga rp&rov ~rlr~e~, ~ Y-~Kpare~, rofn-o b

~.~. MavO&,o~ otov flo~Xet Myetv, ~ M&=v.

6p~

O~re~ avqp~r~ o~e b o~e o~re b t~ o~e; o~re yap av

(PLATO Meno 80d1-e5)

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(e) MEN. T( o~v ~1; ~rp~ r( flM~row ~voxepa(vet~ aC~rb d XD,. 'Erd o'o, ~p~, ~ M~tvow. r~ /z~v rap ~3da~bv
avro ewat, e'(rrep ~.mO~l, tr! io'r(v, o ~ apar(Oqzm tz~i o~ era~r'qFrb ~e~a~ ~av ~rot ~o,~ el~o'roo~ ~no'reD. rd~e 7dp Vo~ el~r(" d goTW ~da~ , v ~no~v ~paypa, ~ V~! povov aper'q, " " o ~ ava~a~,ov " ^ a~'o~ ~al &~a~dhov~ ~al lzaOrir~ e'Iva~; MEN. "gpocye ~o~e'~.
9 9

212. 0 ~ o ~

roOvavrtov a~, o~ F~re ~M~x~o~ I~/p'e

paO~ra| e'~ev, ~ o A ~ av avro ' " d~a~orre~ l~a~otlZeV ' V~I ~.wat; MEN. "Eo-r~ rata" J~" ~pe~71~ &~&r~o~o~ o~ ~o~o~r(

$ o'ot e'~vat; 212. 1-lo~d~t~ yo~v ~rlr~v ~ rw~ ~t'ev al~r~ ~t~do'~a~o~, "trdv'rarot~v oO~v~apat e~peD.

(PLATO Meno 89d1-e7)

(f)
ape roCta rLv'~ o~8~ ~o~bol ~vre~ o[ roto~roL s &,~pe~ Wo~vro raZ~ =o'Xe~w, o[ a/~q~l em~or, hla re Kal o ~ ~tFr'~ ~'Avm'o~ ~ae e~eyep ~t~ ~1 tcc~ o~X oro( re ~A~ov~ ~ro~e~, to,or'toys obL a3ro( d ~ , ~re ~ &' ~rtw'rrlt~lz, " " ~vre~
TO~O~Oe o

2~. 0~

MEN. "EotKev offra~ IXeW, ~ ]~otcpare~, ~o~ ~dy~.

zo

~l,'y~era~" ~ ol ~roMr~ol itv~pe~ XPdlZ~Vo, r&~ ~rdhet~ dp- c Oo~rw, o~z, &a~epdvro)~ IXov're~ ~pb~ rb ~pove~v ~I o[ )Lorl~v~,~o( re ~al o[ Oeol~dvret~" ~a~ yap o~rot lvOovJke~,ov~w. 5

MEN. Kw~we~e~o#ro~ ~X~w.

robs ~w~pa~, o~rw~ vo~ V~I IXovre~ ~rohX~ ~al pe~/dAa

~aropOo~w ~ov ~rpdrrov~t ~al hlyow~;

(PLATO Meno 99b5-c9)
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'If I do not know what a thing is, how should I know what sort of thing it is?' (Meno 71b). Can this question be answered?

Is there really anything seriously wrong with the suggestion that what
is good may be defined as what is loved by God?

Is t~pexr] in all cases the same, no matter whether we are considering a man or a woman, a,man or a horse, a man or a carving knife? Examine Plato's reasons for claiming that if I now have knowledge which I did not acquire in this life, then I must have existed before this life. 'The geometry lesson in the Meno conclusively shows that some knowledge is a priori.' Does it? Does Socrates, in the Meno, give a correct definition of knowledge? Can we draw from the Meno a correct account of what &pezr~ is? O R Can we draw from the Euthyphro a correct account of what x6 6 o l o v is? O R Compare the two dialogues on this question.

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