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It was written in the 1970s. women historians had to push and shove to get
to this type of scholarly literature.
she is more of a social historian. She separates the classes, genders. The
materials she uses are not the ideological documents, but the social basis for
them. She refers to the sources as ideologies that reflect the values of the
mainstream, the elite, the political and social order. Her justification of
courtly literature because they tend to reveal something about the social
setting. Social historian with a little of intellectual historian.
• the men pledges himself to her service. Passion and romance and
love, as opposed to marriage. In her view the noble woman is
beautiful, intelligent, a worthy companion and counter part to the
man. Not primarily a sexual attraction, though, sexual union might
very well be an expression of adoration between a man and a
woman.
• Three very important women were key to this courtly love tradition
and was disseminated throughout
• with regard to courtly love maintains that the sexual passion was an
integral part. She tries to refute the idea that it wasn’t sexual.
Why does medieval society condone this type of extramarital relationship?
• In the 11th and 12th century when this traditions are developing
women retained their own names and held property. Illegitimacy is
not the big issue that it is in other circumstances. If there is a
problem with heritance the land goes to the first legitimate male. So
the wasn’t much of a problem with illegitimate children. When the
husband goes away to war or something else, the women control
the estate.
What kind of literature does he look at when talking about the renaissance?
What happens socially and politically by the time Castiglione writes the
courtier
• The lords only come together if there is some need like war. Now
there is a court structure, a ruler who demands allegiance. You have
to learn the ropes and move up. The people wanting to move up are
seeking some kind of service. This is how you behave at court. You
have to fight to get to court, and then fight amongst the court to
move up by being courtly.
• They used to have their own laws and powers, now they are
consolidating and are getting more centralized. The estate now lives
on after the ruler dies. He feudal structure always wants to have
local rulers, but when they start to create a state they have their
own infrastructure that stays alive after the ruler passes on.
• The warrior has become the poet scholar. Being able to entertain
the court was very important now.
• The love of god imposed certain obligations on you and your life is
transformed by that. There is a behavior that is required.
• by servicing the women the men are able to show their honor and
all the Christian qualities.
what are the key transformations Kelly-Gadol sees in Dante's love poetry?
• Beatrix is still his beloved and pledges his love to her, but she really
does not have an active role. She is a passive object of his activities.
The action really centers in his life. He is not interested sexually. Not
as a real women, most of his work is devoted to her after she is
dead. She did not have to exist, she could be a symbol of this
spiritual quest.
• the noble woman can reject or accept the noble man and the
relationship does not have to be sexual, but there is no reason why
it could not be sexual. It is up to the woman if it is or not. There is
no problem if the two meet as equals or the woman as somewhat
superior, both have committed themselves to the relationship and if
it goes sexual they have both freely decided to do so.
Ficino
• love is a ladder that increases as you get drawn more and more
toward the person. First they might be attractive to the outside of
the person, and then they realize they like more the person because
of the inside and how they are or behave or their intellectual
appeals.
• the very highest level of the ladder you realize that this things were
not self creating and that they were created by god. You now move
to a love of god.
• Ficino talks about platonic love which is a non sexual love. A higher
level of admiration of love than the physical. Dante loves Beatrix
because of the quality of character, not sexually.