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Refill HP 802
Refill HP 802 Cartridge This is a very detailed piece of information meant for beginners. If you have some experience with refilling inkjets, just skip the introduction. Please read the precautions before attempting a refill The HP 802 cartridge series is a relatively new series of cartridges being manufactured by HP. This cartridge is available in India for use in three printer models HP 1050, HP 2050 and the wireless HP 3050 (any maybe others).

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HP Wireless Deskjet All in One 3050 (Print, Scan, Copy)

About refilling cartridges: Many people have doubts about refilling their printer's cartridges because of extensive claims being made by manufacturers regarding quality, printer failure, void warranty and a host of other reasons. Please follow the blog to the end to find a reasonable answer to all these reasons while we first get on with the process of refilling for the impatient ones. But just be assured that the process is completely safe.

About HP 802 Cartridges These new cartridges are available in two variants -- SMALL and LARGE.

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HP 802 Small Black Cartridge

Ink Yields*: HP 802 Small Black [CH561ZZ]: 120 pages HP 802 Large Black [CH563ZZ]: 360 pages HP 802 Small Tricolor [CH562ZZ]: 100 pages HP 802 Large Tricolor [CH564ZZ]: 300 pages

*These yields are measured under standard conditions using an ISO testing suite (a set of pages printed repeatedly until the ink finishes) and these yields are rated at a coverage of only 5% of a page. Want to print images and high density text? You could be running out of ink a lot sooner than expected.

At the heart of an 802

The way these cartridges work is that they have a sponge inside the cartridge (and that is what takes up space inside the cartridge, there's no complicated circuitry involved). When the printer signals the cartirdge through the contact pins, portions of the head heat up forcing the ink from inside to outside and onto the paper (hence the name "thermal inkjet")

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The sponge removed from an HP 802 Small Black cartridge.

This sponge (from a small black) measures approximately 3.5 cm * 1.5 cm * 1.5 cm and is inside the cartridge and this is the thing we'd be operating on while refilling the cartridge. You'll now understand that increasing yields is only about increasing the size of the sponge and injecting a few more ml of ink -- for which the HP guys are charging us a fortune. Anyways, the job we're supposed to do is getting a syringe needle into this sponge and injecting 1.5 ml (small black) or 4 ml (large black) of ink into it.

Refill Process Take out the black cartridge from the printer and peel off the top sticker from the cartridge to expose the refill hole(s). [Don't worry if you damage the sticker label since it is not necessary to put it back after refilling]

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802 Cartridge after peeling off the sticker label

The numbering stands when you hold the cartridge with the golden circuit strip facing away from you.

Holes 1,2 and 3 have the sponge immediately below them and it is one of these three holes that we will use to refill the cartridge. Please DO NOT use HOLES 4 or 5 since you'd dumping ink straight into the container and probably will damage the cartridge.

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Use a standard refill ink brand and any syringe.

A 250ml bottle of black pigmented branded ink should cost you anywhere between Rs. 250 to Rs. 350. 250ml is sufficient ink for more than 2500 pages.

1) Fill up a syringe with 1 to 1.5 ml of ink.

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2) Place the needle in HOLE 3 of the cartridge

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3) S-L-O-W-L-Y inject ink into the sponge. Make sure you take 20-25 seconds to inject that 2 ml ink since it needs to get distributed into the sponge. Making it fast would probably make the ink leak out of the head risking damage of circuit. MAKE SURE you place some tissue below the cartridge since some ink is bound to flow out while refilling. 4) Remove the needle and cap the syringe. 5) Clean the head portion of the cartridge with a tissue paper for any overflowing ink. [Don't use too much force, the head is a fragile part] 6) Place the cartridge back in the printer and allow it to stand for 5-6 hours before you attempt printing. The ink needs to reach near the head before you can properly print.

Precautions 1) Do not touch the metallic ink strip or allow any ink to reach that portion or you'll damage the circuit.

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2) After refilling, empty the syringe and insert the needle one by one in hole 4 and 5 and pull to suck out any ink that's overflown into the cartridge from the sponge. 3) Do not insert a cartridge into the printer while the ink is flowing out of the print head [bottom part]. Absorb any excess on a soft tissue paper 4) Do not wipe the head with anything except a soft tissue. You may use Isopropyl Alcohol to clean that portion. Printhead is a very delicate part.

Cost Comparison

Refilling cartridges is a very cheap option when compared to buying a new cartridge every time. I've been using this cartridge for more than 8 months now. It's a small black 802 which I've refilled way too many times to remember.

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My printer's total page count shows ~ 2100 pages. Discount the 100 pages that were printed with the starter cartridge, I've been able to squeeze out 2000 pages from a HP 802 small black. AND it's still going on. Small Black costs Rs. 425/- and prints about a hundred regular pages making the cost of a print Rs. 4.25/-. Compare this to a refilled system, assume a page output of 2500 pages per cartridge -- it would cost you 1) A cartridge (Rs. 425/-) and the refill stuff -- syringe, ink bottle, tissue (~ Rs. 300).

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Refilled ink would cost you Rs. 725 / 2500 pages, that is approximately 29 paise per page.

Refilled Yields My personal experience is that a refilled small black would last 40-45 pages so if you're into heavy volume printing or you can't bear refilling too frequently, I suggest you get a HP 802 large black which has a significantly larger sponge. Refilling a large black would require approximately 4-5 ml of ink.

Expected Problems If you get no output OR streaks of black after printing from a refilled cartridge, remove the cartridge from the printer. Cover the holes with some clean cloth and blow air into the cartridge. This would force the ink near the head. Wipe off any excess ink that comes out of the head and then try printing.

I have updated the FAQ(s). Please read. Posted 19th February 2012 by Refill Man
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vasista choudary 18 March 2012 06:20 I've filled my HP 802 tri color small cartridge with wrong colors(Magenta in place of Yellow & Yellow in place of Magenta). This was the first time I'm refilling my cartridge & I've done wrongly. All my printouts are getting mismatched colors. How to solve the problem ? Please tell me Reply Replies Refill Man @Vasista I would recommend that you print out as many pages as you can so that the ink in all the color sponges is exhausted. Then, refill the cartridge with the correct colors, print a few more pages and then try if the cartridge begins to print normally. I will try to attach an image that has all the colors. 23 March 2012 10:30

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23 March 2012 11:10

Read the FAQs. There's an image that'll use all the colors. Maybe that should help you. Reply

Sanoj 30 March 2012 09:56 I have used refilling method using syringe and has printed about 1200 pages. The problem I faced was saturation of sponge, which was overcome by ink suction tool from ebay. Both the inklevels has shown empty. I have now installed CISS on this unit and now the printer prints a separator page at first of every job. How to solve this problem? Reply Replies Refill Man 31 March 2012 03:03

I am using the syringe method on large black cartridge and my printer (Deskjet 3050 Wireless) prints a seperator (totally blank) page at the starting of the print job. I am myself trying to find out the solution to this but I recommend that you try aligning the cartridges once and then try out if it works. BTW: Where did you get the CISS from?? Please let me know since I print about 100 pages a day and its really a headache refilling it every day.

Refill Man

31 March 2012 03:05 link for the CISS at

Please email me the ankurbhageria2006@gmail.com Thanks

Rahul 14 July 2012 10:33 plz i need the ciss too.. merifreekiid@yahoo.com plz mail me i have hp deskjet 2050 with hp802 cartridge

Masters 15 April 2012 06:58

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Masters 15 April 2012 07:01 please also guide us for 802 tri color small cartridge. which color in which hole? how much qty of ink each color. Reply

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18 April 2012 07:21

I will create a dedicated page for the 802 colored cartridge shortly. For the time being, just read the blog on how to refill and here are the specifics of the color. Hold the colored cartridge with the single hole facing farthest away from you. The left hole (choose any one of the two) gets Red / Magenta The topmost (single hole) gets Yellow The right hole (choose any one of the two) gets Cyan / Blue Inject 1.5 to 2.0 ml of each color respectively for the small cartridge Inject about 3.0 ml of each color respectively for the large cartridge Allow the cartridge to stand for a few hours so that the inks reach the head. Reply

ABC 9 May 2012 23:06 Please guide what if 1) Ink is injected in hole 1 or 2 2) Excess ink is not sucked through holes 4 & 5 3) Attempted to print immediately This question has come because, I could not print any page as blank paper came out when I have refilled and when got refilled with a professional, the same cartridge printed properly! of course with a warning stating that the cartridge may be spurious! Solve the puzzle that the same cartridge prints when got refilled by a professional re filler and not when done with a syringe Reply

Refill Man @ABC

10 May 2012 04:33

For small cartridges, ink must be injected through 1 or 2 since the sponge lies immediately below them and not below 4 and 5. Any attempts to print immediately will give NO OUTPUT. The reason behind this mysterious puzzle is that we are not using an "Ink suction tool" to force the ink to the head while the professional refillers do use it. How it works it that they put it on the head of the cartridge and suck some ink. Due to pressure change, the refilled ink reaches near the head immediately and you can print immediately.

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When you do not use that tool, you can't print immediately because then the ink reaches the head by action of mother Earth's gravity with isn't as fast as the suction tool. Please look at EBay for 802 Ink suction tool if you want immediate prints after refilling. Reply

Sanoj 10 May 2012 08:20 Refill Man, have you tried the CISS? Reply Replies Refill Man 13 May 2012 05:10

No Sanoj, although I was initially very fascinated by the idea, I dropped it. Will try it sometime later. Thanks for the link :)

pp 13 May 2012 04:06 can any ink be used ( Camel etc used for fountain pen) or is there a specific type of ink that needs to be used? Reply

Refill Man

13 May 2012 05:12

Only Inkjet specific inks can be used with the cartridge. Please don't try any other ink (however cheap it may be). You'll only end up damaging the cartridge. 250 ml of inkjet ink (InkTEC Brand) would cost you Rs. 250 to Rs. 300. Probably enough to print 3000 pages with the 802 cartridge. Cheap enought isn't it? Reply

abhijeet 15 May 2012 03:12 my printer is deskjet 1050 1.the black catridge is not been recognised by the printer after refilling as it is not showing the estimated ink level is it damaged? or is it normal for hp not to recognise catridge after refilling 2.after refilling nothing is getting printed ?? what may be the prob is it damaged? Reply Replies Refill Man 15 May 2012 07:57

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1) If your printer doesn't recognise the cartridge (i.e. if the cart. is damaged) then it would show some kind of blinking lights. 2) If that is not the case, fill up the cartridge as much as you can (without leaking any ink) and then let the cartridge rest overnight in the printer. This way the ink will reach the head by action of gravity. If your cartridge is OK then the next morning you'll be able to print.

jaskanwar 16 May 2012 19:26 can we reset the ink level of hp 802 catridge showing in "estimated ink levels" on monitor? Reply

Refill Man

17 May 2012 12:04

I don't know if its possible. Anyways you can print without the estimated ink level monitor showing ink in the cartridge :) Reply

Sanoj 19 May 2012 21:09 From where you get inktec ink? What is the price? Is it pigment or dye ink? Reply

Refill Man

21 May 2012 13:41

I got it from Nehru Place, New Delhi. I bought a 250 ml bottle for Rs. 200/-. On the bottle, it says pigmented ink but I really don't know how to spot the difference between pigmented and dye based ink. One more thing. This InkTec ink is not waterproof. Reply

brijesh kumar 24 May 2012 23:50 I flow your reffiling step succesfuly but after refil 802 black cartridage it's only gives me printing only in best paper quality mode it's does n't work in normal or fast draft printing mode plz help me Reply

Refill Man

25 May 2012 11:20

First of all make sure you fill the cartridge fully. Allow the cartridge to rest overnight in the printer. I had similar issues. Either you leave it overnight or if you want instant prints, then you will have to buy an ink suction tool that will bring the ink near the printhead instantly.

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Look at EBay if you want the suction tool or try the overnight method and please post whether it worked. Reply

Sanoj 26 May 2012 11:38 I have now realigned the ciss tubes to the other side and the problem of printing separator page has gone !!!!. Its now working fine just like a laser printer - no worry for refilling again n again..... The ink suction tool from ebay is worth buying since you can print instantly after refilling. I have tried this before and is well satisfied. It costs about 325/- on ebay. Reply

jaskanwar 28 May 2012 17:43 sanoj can u send me the link of suction tool on ebay plz... Reply Replies Sanoj 29 May 2012 11:52 I had purchased an empty CISS for HP. I got the suction tool along with that kit. A similar item is now present on ebay. See the link below. http://www.ebay.in/itm/HP-INK-SUCTION-TOOL-PRINTERCARTRIDGE-818-900-901-801-BLACK-AND-COLOUR/251071340988?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_203& hash=item3a7504a1bc#ht_1169wt_1139

jaskanwar 29 May 2012 18:52 thnks bro..

jaskanwar 30 May 2012 08:15 plz add the page of refilling of hp 802 colour catridge..i can't understand u wrote before in comments. Reply

Dhirendra Pratap Singh 31 May 2012 01:55 Please show us how to refill hp802 tricolor cartridge with the help of a picture because here only black ink cartridge is shown to be refilled. thank you. Reply Replies

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Refill Man 3 June 2012 09:44 I've added the page for refilling the colored cartridge. Please do have a look.

Refill Man 31 May 2012 07:08 I'll write the tricolor refilling process very soon. I'll be free in two days. After that I'll add the page. Thanks for all the interest in my blog~! Reply

Anupam 9 June 2012 09:20 Hi, Am told that HP 61 cartridge is compatible with HP 1000 Deskjet, which uses HP 802 cartridge, is it true? Second, can any refill kit be used to refill 802 cartridge, or it has to be specific for 802 or 61? Reply Replies Refill Man 9 June 2012 13:11

As far as I know, HP 61 cartridge is for the Americas and won't be compatible for the printers made for India. Why are you interested in HP 61 anyways? Yes, any refill kit can be used to refill the HP 802 as long as the type of ink and the suction tool are compatible. In my opinion, there's no specific kit for generic cartridges such as 21, 27, 802, etc., because I have used the same ink to refill 5 different HP inkjet cartridges and they all work fine.

Rakesh 10 June 2012 11:00 My HP 802 small catridge wont work after being refilled.It has ink but print only one or two lines and goes blank.Is there any possible way to force the ink out? Reply

Refill Man

10 June 2012 11:32

Yes there is. There is an ink suction tool that you attach to the head at the bottom and then pull the plunger to force ink to the head. You can find it at Ebay India for as low as Rs. 350.

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Hirak 12 June 2012 00:13 Same problem as rakesh...is there any other way to do that except buying that suction tool..??? Cant i do it at home somehow..???? Plz help.. Reply

Refill Man

13 June 2012 10:28

Rakesh and Hirak There is one "jugaad" way to force the ink out. Cover the 5 holes on the top with a clean cloth. Then force air with your mouth on the cloth. This will create pressure and force the ink out. I used this way until I had the suction tool. One more suggestion. Suppose that your cartridge gives 40 prints on a refill, I suggest you to refill it after 30 prints. This way you won't go "blank". Printing blank seriously damages the head since there's no liquid to absorb the generated heat. Reply

rahul raniwala 18 June 2012 00:37 thank you very much for useful info. Reply

Ramesh 2 July 2012 03:55 Can anyone confirm the quality of print after refilling? Reply

Ramesh 2 July 2012 03:59 @Refill Man Should I buy this ink: http://www.ebay.in/itm/115-ML-BLACK-PIGMENT-INK-REFILL-KIT-HP-802-818CARTRIDGE-MRP-349-RS-/230816793239?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_203& hash=item35bdc0c297 Reply

Refill Man

2 July 2012 07:06

Yes, you can. Sounds like a fair deal. As far as the quality is concerned, you won't notice any difference. PS: I tried very hard to notice but couldn't (at least for the black cartridge). For the colored ones, you will definitely get a difference.

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Hope that solves your doubt. Reply

Dew 23 July 2012 00:05 Thank you Refillman, the instruction along with pics were very helpful and I managed to refill both the black and colour cartridge. Although there is some smudging in the printouts, everything else is fine. A few questions, the last refill for me lasted around only 20 printouts, I have a HP small and refilled it with 2 ml and the printouts were high volume, but with the same type of printouts the original cartridge lasted much longer, is it normal for refilled ink to last less than the original? Also how to find out the total no. of pages printed so far, as you have shown above? Reply

Refill Man

23 July 2012 02:57

Thanks for the appreciation! Yes it is true that refilled cartridges give less output. Please read the post "HP 802 Large Advantage" for the comparison on refilled and new cartridge output. The total number of pages can be found out in case of the HP 3050 Wireless Printer by going to the link of the embedded web server. Reply

Radhe Vajrakaya 5 August 2012 07:19 Hey REFILL BODYGUARD thanks man for the entire process you helped me and all the people visting your blog very much yaar. Thank you man my entire problem of refilling is solved truly INDIA needs people like you who share their views and knowledge with others it makes other people life eas.

Thank you x 100000000000 = Thank you Reply Replies Refill Man 5 August 2012 19:08

Thanks for the appreciation sir :)

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Hello, please tell me how to see the TOTAL PAGE PRINTED COUNT IN HP DESKJET D1668 ? Reply Replies Sanoj 23 August 2012 10:30 You can use papercut print logger, a free software to count the pages printed by any printer. It is free for upto 5 users.

goog 25 August 2012 22:08 thank you friend Reply

Anonymous 25 August 2012 23:52 Brother, I have 3 questions; 1. Can I place "802 large" in the "same slot of 802 small"? Or should I change/ alter the placement slot? In earlier printers we could not use colored cartridge with the larger version. Is it still the same and we can not use colored cartridge when used with Black Large?? 2. I had wrongly filled up the 802 small cartridge from the other side by drilling a hole in the rear wall (Well now I have blocked it using mseal). I am still not getting the prints. DO you think the cartridge is now damaged? 3. My Inktec Ink bottle is old say about 5 years. Hope I can I still use the ink? Reply

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