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LECTURE 230 741 FREQUENCY RESPONSE

(READING: GHLM 537-544) Objective The objective of this presentation is: 1.) Illustrate the frequency analysis of a complex amplifier 2.) Examine both dominant and non-dominant poles Outline Analysis of the high frequency response -3dB frequency Slew rate Summary

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HIGH FREQUENCY RESPONSE OF THE 741 OP AMP Simplified Schematic of the 741 Op Amp with Idealized Biasing
VCC = 15V
Q9 Q8 550A 180A Q14 + Cc R10 40k Q19 Q18 R6 27 R7 27 Q20 Q23 Q17 R3 R1 R2 1k 50k 1k R9 50k VEE = -15V R8 100
Fig. 210-05
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Q1 Q3

Q2 Q4

vout

VCC
19A Q5 Q7

VCC
Q16

Q6

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AC Schematic of the High-Frequency Gain Path of the 741

Cc RS Q2 Vi Q4 Q16 Rp1 Cp1 R9 R8 Q17 Cp2 Rp2
Fig. 230-01

Q14 Q23 RL + Vo

AC Calculations:
Ro2 = 47 + vid 2.7M

Rid

5.4k

vid

Ro1
6.8M

+ vi2 -

5.7M

Ri2

147

vi2

Ro2
83k

+ vi3 -

9.1M

Ri3

+ vi3 vout Fig. 220-08

Rp1 = Ro1 = 6.8M, R9 = 50k, R8 = 100, and Rp2 = ro13B

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Calculation of the 3dB Frequency Use the open-circuit time constant approach on Cc.
Rc0 Rc0

Q16 ro4 Rp1 R9 R8 Q17 Rp2 Ric

+ vi -

Gmcvi

Roc

Fig. 230-02

Ric = ro4||Rp1||Ri2: ro4 = I = 5.26M, C4

VAP

Ri2 = r16 + ( N +1)(R9||Req1)= 5.72M

Ric = 5.26M||6.8M||5.72M = 1.95M Roc = ro17T||ro13B: ro17=VAN/IC17 =130V/550A =236.4k, ro17T = ro17(1+gm17R8) = 732.3k ro13B = VAP/IC13B = 50V/550A = 90.9k Roc = 732.3k||90.9k = 80.8k Gmc = 6.39mA/V
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Calculation of the 3dB Frequency - Continued Using the previous results of the open-circuit time constant gives, Rco = Ric + Roc + GmcRicRoc = [1.95+0.0808 + (6.39)(80.8)(1950)]M = 1.007x109 1 CcRco = 30pF1.007x109 = 0.0302seconds f-3dB = 2C R = 5.27Hz c co An alternate approach: Use Millers theorem to reflect Cc to the input of the Darlington second stage. Ceq = (1 + Av2) Cc = 545 Cc = 16.4nF fdom = 2R 1
Load1Ceq

RLoad1 = Ric = 1.95M

= 4.97 Hz

GB = Av1Av2fdom = (565)(544.3)(4.97Hz) = 1.53MHz

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Nondominant Poles of the 741 Many of the nondominant poles are difficult to calculate, however the following is an example one that is relatively easy. Consider the pole caused by C 4 in the circuit shown.
RS Q2 Vi C4
Fig. 230-03

Q4

We will ignore the frequency of Q2 because it is npn and has a much higher fT. From previous work we calculated that gm2 = gm4 = 0.46mA/V. Assuming that Cje = 0.6pF and F = 25ns for the lateral pnp gives, Cb4 = Fgm4 = 25x10-90.46x10-3 = 10.75pF C4 = Cb4 + Cje = 11.35pF The open-circuit time resistance seen from C 4 is 1 1 = 1087 Nondominant pole = 2C R = 12.9MHz R04 = 2g m2 4 04 (Computer results show a pole at 15MHz)

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Nondominant Poles Continued Another pole exists at the output of the second stage.
Q16 Ro4 Rp1 R9 R8
Fig. 230-04

Q17

Rp2

Cp2

Rc0

Roc

We have calculated previously that Roc = 80.8k. The value of Cp2 is approximately, Cjc23 + Ccs17 1pF 1 Another nondominant pole = 2C R = 1.97MHz p2 oc (This is the second pole of Millers compensation)

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Slew Rate for the 741 Op Amp The current available to charge and discharge the compensation capacitor Cc is 2IC4 = 19A. Therefore the slew rate is 2IC4 2(9.5A) SR = C = 30pF = 0.64V/S c

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SUMMARY The 3dB frequency of a complex amplifier is reasonably easy to calculate Calculation of higher-order poles is more difficult Slew rate for the 741 op amp is slightly less than 1V/s

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