Steven Cooley, WCSO - Vol I - Full Transcript

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v.
Whatcom County
1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Reported by Kristen M. Uhlig Certified Court Reporter, CCR, CSR Washington CCR #1934 UNITED STATES OF DISTRICT COURT WESTERN DISTRICT OF WASHINGTON AT SEATTLE --------------------------------------------------------------PAUL MURPHY, together with his marital community, Plaintiffs, ) ) ) ) vs. ) NO. 2:13-CV-00727 ) WHATCOM COUNTY, WASHINGTON, a ) VOLUME I government entity; WHATCOM COUNTY ) SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT; WILLIAM J. ) ELFO, together with his marital ) community, ) Defendants. ) --------------------------------------------------------------DEPOSITION UPON ORAL EXAMINATION OF STEVEN COOLEY, VOLUME I --------------------------------------------------------------11:30AM - 12:15PM March 11TH, 2014 Whatcom County Courthouse 311 Grand Avenue Bellingham, Washington 98225
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Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County
2 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 ALSO PRESENT: William Elfo Tara Adrian-Stavik FOR WHATCOM COUNTY: Elizabeth Gallery Whatcom County Prosecutor's Office 311 Grand Avenue Bellingham, Washington 98225 FOR THE DEFENDANTS WHATCOM COUNTY & SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT & ELFO Dale Kamerrer Law Lyman Daniel Kamerrer Bogdanovich 2674 RW Johnson Blvd SW Tumwater, Washington 98512 360.754.3480 FOR THE PLAINTIFFS: Robert Butler & Emily Beschen Law Offices of Robert Butler 103 East Holly Street Suite 512 Bellingham, Washington 98225 360.734.3448 A P P E A R A N C E S
3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 EXHIBIT DESCRIPTION PAGE EXAMINATION: PAGE I N D E X
BY MS. BESCHEN...............................................4
29....E-mail from Doug Chadwick, Dated 10/20/2011............8 Fwd: RE: Fb page - status update 30....E-mail from Steven Cooley, Dated 3/3/2008.............14 RE: Murphy MDT 31....E-mail from Steve Cooley, Dated 11/19/2012............18 Paul Murphy Post 32....E-mail from Daniel Gibson, Dated 12/21/2011...........20 33....E-mail from Steve Cooley, Dated 12/21/2011............22 RE: Murphy Facebook 34....E-mail from Jeff Parks, Dated 3/20/2012...............23 Fwd: Murphy Facebook Koran reference 35....E-mail from Steve Cooley, Dated 10/19/2011............25
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STEVEN COOLEY, having been first duly sworn, was called as a witness herein and was examined and testified as follows:
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MS. BESCHEN: Q A Q A Q Can you state and spell your name for record? Steven Cooley. Yes, please. S-T-E-V-E-N C-O-O-L-E-Y. Did you have a chance to review any documents in preparation for this deposition? A I skimmed through the investigation, the main investigation that I conducted on Don -- Deputy Murphy, former Deputy Murphy, but that's all. Q Okay. Did you have a chance to review your transcript from the Do you want me to spell both names?
prior deposition? A Q A Q No. Okay. I don't think that I've ever seen it. Okay. You did do a prior deposition during the civil service
case; correct? A Q Correct. And you were aware that Paul Murphy was involved in a Facebook
5 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q Q A Q A A A Q A Q A Q Q page group where the shared interest was the Whatcom County sheriff's election? MR. KAMERRER: It's vague as to shared. THE WITNESS: (By Ms. Beschen) I -- yeah. I don't understand. Object to the form of the question.
Are you aware that Paul had involvement in a
Facebook page that was essentially about Sheriff Elfo? Yes. Okay. In 2011, you were monitoring that Facebook page;
correct? Yes. And you were monitoring that page at Sheriff Elfo's direction; correct? Yes. Prior to 2011, were you ever tasked to monitor a website called Whatcom Uncovered? I don't believe that I was tasked to monitor that Facebook -that page, no. Okay. Yes. Why did you monitor it? Because I heard that it existed and I heard that there were things on it that were disparaging about the sheriff's office and some of its employees. Okay. Do you remember what those things were? Did you monitor it?
6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q A Q A Q Q A Q A Q A A Q Q A A All of them? some. What do you remember? I remember that there were some things about a situation with one of our former deputies who was stationed over at Newhalem and a situation surrounding his housing up there. Okay. page? Let me think. That's all that's coming to mind right now. I Any others that initially sparked your attention to the No. I don't remember all of them. I remember
know that there was other stuff on there, but no. Okay. Yes. Was that early on in the page when you became aware of it? I don't recall when that was, but I know that there was something about me on there, yes. What did it say about you on the page? I know that I was mentioned in the context of the subject that I just mentioned, the whole Newhalem housing thing. Okay. I know that my name was mentioned in that particular subject. Okay. Any other places that your name was mentioned that you Was there anything about you on the page?
were aware of? Probably. But, again, I'm not thinking. I can't think what
those circumstances are right now. Okay. In 2012, you were tasked with doing an administrative
7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q A A Q A Q A Q A Q A Q Q A investigation against Paul Murphy; is that correct? I wouldn't use the word against but, yes. investigation of his conduct. Okay. You were assigned to be the investigator of that I did an
conduct? Yes. And you had concerns about your ability to be fair, the appearance of fairness; is that correct? MR. KAMERRER: Object to the form of the question. Go ahead.
It's vague and argumentative. (By Ms. Beschen)
You can still answer.
I did not have concerns about my ability to be fair, no. Did you have any concerns about there being a conflict with you being the investigator of an investigation involving Paul Murphy? No. Okay. You didn't bring any concerns to Sheriff Elfo?
I did, yes. Okay. What were the concerns that you brought to Sheriff Elfo?
I was concerned that were we to be -- to find ourselves in a situation that we are in today, that Deputy Murphy would use whatever past he felt that we shared to try to use that against the sheriff's office. Okay. To discredit me, the sheriff, the sheriff's office in an
8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A A Q A Q A Q Q A Q A Q A Q Q A Q attempt to excuse his own conduct. So the concern was an appearance of a conflict? Correct. Okay. Sheriff Elfo told you to do the investigation anyway; is
that correct? That's correct. Okay. Have you ever contacted Facebook yourself to have any
content removed? No. Do you know if Sheriff Elfo has ever contacted Facebook to have content removed? I have no knowledge of that, no. Okay. (Marked Deposition Exhibit No. 29) (By Ms. Beschen) in there. Okay. Let me know when you're done. You want me to read everything or just skim? You don't have to read through it. Okay. Just -- are you familiar with the document is what I'm going to ask you. Okay. MR. KAMERRER: Read as much as you need to to Go ahead and take a look at all of the pages
9 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q A Q A Q A Q A Q A Q A Q A Q A Q A Q familiarize yourself with it. THE WITNESS: (By Ms. Beschen) Yes. Would you agree that this is starting out as an -- it's an e-mail from Doug Chadwick to you on October 20th, 2011? Yes. Okay. It looks -- it appears to be. On Page 2, have you ever seen that e-mail before? Okay. Okay. Have you seen this e-mail before?
Oh, your first question was pertaining to the first e-mail on the top page? Correct. Yeah. -- is an e-mail from Doug Chadwick to you on October 20th, 2011? Okay. That e-mail, I don't recall seeing, but it appears to be So Page 1 --
to me, yes. Okay. From Doug. The subject title is Facebook Page Status Update. Right. And then if you turn to Page 2. Yes. The same subject line. Yes. Facebook page status update?
10 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Q A Q A Q A Q A Q A Q That I recall seeing, yes. This is from Bill Elfo to Doug Chadwick and Jeff Parks; correct? Correct. Okay. What's this e-mail about? MR. KAMERRER: What do you mean what is it about? Are
you referring to Page 1 or -(By Ms. Beschen) Page 1 and 2 -- Page 2 and 3. This was
forwarded over to you why? I believe that it was part of a public disclosure request. Okay. That I was assigned to gather documents for. I believe that
that's why Chadwick forwarded it to me was because it was in his possession and he was responding to the public disclosure request and I was gathering the documents. Okay. Got it. Did you review the documents and submit
everything for the public disclosure request? I don't have a specific -- a specific recollection of doing that, but I would imagine that would have been my job here, yeah. Would you agree that on Page 2 and 3 towards the end, Tara Adrian-Stavik is sending an e-mail to Bill Elfo saying, "It needs to be removed," referencing the Facebook comments by Paul Murphy? It appears to me that she's not happy with what Paul Murphy
11 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Q A Q A Q Q A Q Q A posted, yes. She's asking Bill Elfo to call Facebook and have it removed. It appears that she provides a phone number and says that, "It needs to be removed." I don't see the place where it says that But,
I would like you to call them and have them remove it. yes -Sure. Fair enough.
-- it seems that she is implying that. The next communication. Do you see from Bill Elfo, he says, "I
will make the call tonight." I'm sorry, where are you at? Page 2 in the middle. Okay. I have been in back to back meetings in Seattle since yesterday and will get back -- and will get back until town until tonight. I will make the call. (As Read). Where is that? Page 2?
It starts out, "Hi Tara."
I do see that, yes. Okay. Are you aware of any other circumstances where Bill Elfo
has contacted Facebook to have content removed? MR. KAMERRER: I object. This is -- that's a It's not
misstatement of testimony.
This is irrelevant.
calculated to lead to admissible evidence. answer any more questions about it. MS. BESCHEN: MR. BUTLER: Okay. Oh.
He's not going to
12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 client. MR. BUTLER: MR. KAMERRER: irrelevant. faith. Then you can't advise him, can you? Well, I think this is completely anyways. MR. BUTLER: You're advising your client to not answer MS. BESCHEN: That was my last question about it
a question at the deposition? MR. KAMERRER: He's not my client. He's not my
This is calculated to be disruptive, to be in bad
And it has no basis of -- it has nothing to do with It's beyond the pale. You've made your record.
this case.
MR. BUTLER:
Madam, court reporter -MR. KAMERRER: take a break. Let's go off the record. I'm going to
You're coming with me. Madam court reporter. Hang on a second. If you would make a note of the slamming
MR. BUTLER: THE REPORTER: MR. BUTLER:
of the hand, and if you would also make a note of the page number, because we will be ordering this up. (Recess Taken) (Deposition Resumed) MS. BESCHEN: Before we get back into questions, I We It is 11:44.
just want to put on the record who is present in the room. are deposing Steve Cooley. We have Dale Kamerrer present in
13 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Q A Q A Q A Q A Q the room. Liz Gallery, Sheriff Elfo, Tara Adrian-Stavik,
Robert Butler, myself Emily Beschen, and the court reporter. THE WITNESS: And I would be happy to answer any
questions that you have for me about Exhibit 29. MS. BESCHEN: MR. KAMERRER: Okay. I just want to put on the record that
my objection is to the utter sleaziness of bringing up this subject and questioning Mr. Cooley about it. And it's beneath the dignity of anyone who is admitted to the Bar in the State of Washington or the federal district court, but it's what I've been told to expect from you. MR. BUTLER: assassination. told about you. (By Ms. Beschen) Okay. So on the topic of the Facebook page, Well, isn't that a great character
I won't even put on the record what I've been
are you aware that the sheriff's office has a Facebook page? The sheriff's office's official Facebook page? Correct. Yes, I am. Okay. Do you have any involvement in that page?
Other than reading it, no. Okay. Do you read it regularly?
Very rarely. Do you like it on your personal Facebook page? My wife and I share a Facebook page and we might have liked it.
14 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Q A A Q Q A Q A A Q Q A Q I don't remember. Okay. We might have. Have you ever heard from anybody directly rumors or anything about content being removed from the sheriff's office Facebook page? No. Who do you know to be the administrators or in charge of running that Facebook page? I am not certain actually. I think Undersheriff Parks and
Sergeant Gatterman, but I'm not sure. Okay. Do you know if there's any rules surrounding that
Facebook page? Not to my knowledge. (Marked Deposition Exhibit No. 30) (By Ms. Beschen) Okay. Go ahead and take a look at this. You
can just probably read through this whole thing and let me know when you're done. Okay. Before we talk about Exhibit 30, I want to talk about what went on in the hall for a second. did you speak with counsel? Mr. Kamerrer? Yes. Yes. So when you just left the room,
15 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Q A A Q A Q A Q A Q A Q Q Q A Q A What did you two speak about? You want everything or -Mm-hm. Okay. Everything. Yes.
Basically, he just wanted a moment to calm down and then
he basically said that I could go in and answer any questions that I wish to answer about Exhibit 29. Okay. Is it your understanding that you have a lawyer present
in this room who is representing -No. -- your personal interests? No. Okay. You know that there's not a lawyer representing your
interests in this room? That is correct. Back to Exhibit 30. Okay. Do you recall receiving this e-mail? I do. And then -- so it appears to me and let me know if I'm characterizing this wrong. This is an e-mail first from Larry
Flynn to you on March 1st, 2008 and then a response from you to Flynn also on March 3rd, 2008. That's correct. What caused Flynn to send you this e-mail? Do you know?
You would have to ask Sergeant Flynn that question.
16 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q A Q A Q A Q Q Okay. Do you know if there were any conversations or
communications not in e-mail prior to him sending you this? No. Hm-mm.
Was there any investigation going on into Murphy at the time that he sent you this? I don't recall. Okay. At the very bottom of the page, the last paragraph
starts out, "When I told Paul about having to leave his MDT at Cascade at the end of his shift that starts Monday night so that IT could upgrade it and get it back to him once he came back to work on Tuesday he became concerned." (Witness Indicating). Why is he telling you about this? MR. KAMERRER: THE WITNESS: Objection, calls for speculation. Yeah. Again, you would have to ask
Sergeant Flynn that, but I think that the rest of the paragraph kind of explains the point of this e-mail that he says in the paragraph above that. The point of his e-mail is to let me know that there's files on one of our -- one of the sheriff's office computers that Paul claims are quote, unquote classified, and that we should probably know what those are. (By Ms. Beschen) Okay. On the second page, it says in the
middle of the paragraph, "He said that they will not be able to do anything without him here. I am of the impression that
17 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Q A Q A 2008? Not sure which ones he's referring to. Sergeant Flynn. Okay. Is there more than one rule about computer modifications You would have to ask A Q Q modifying the Bios and password protecting it is something that people shouldn't be doing." Is it true that the county doesn't want their computers password protected? MR. KAMERRER: THE WITNESS: that's not true. (By Ms. Beschen) Are you aware of any policies that were in Object, calls for speculation. As a blanket statement, I would say, no,
place in 2008 that prevented Paul from putting a password on his computer? No. Okay. The second to last sentence. It states, "I thought we
might want to see what he actually has on his computer and see what he is actually up to in reference to this investigation before bringing up the rules about computer modifications." What were the rules about computer modifications in
presently? The county has a couple of policies on computers in general. What about modifications specifically? I would have to look at them to see what is in them. know off the top of my head. I don't
18 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Q Q A A Q A Q A A Q A Q A Q Q Did this start an investigation from you, this e-mail from Flynn? No. It did not start an official investigation.
Did it start an unofficial investigation? No. Back to Page 1, your response to him. Mm-hm. Was, "For now, your solution about getting Murphy's laptop updated is a good one. I'll let you know how we're going to
proceed, once we've decided." Mm-hm. Do you recall how you did decide to proceed? I briefed then Chief Deputy Parks. Mm-hm. I think that that all culminated in eventually, I believe, that it was Lieutenant Rossmiller and Sergeant Flynn himself getting Deputy Murphy's computer and looking to see what was on it. Did they find anything? Not to my knowledge, but I don't recall the specifics because I wasn't there. Okay. Do you remember people guessing or speculating or rumors
about what they thought would be on his computer that he was trying to hide? No. (Marked Deposition Exhibit No. 31)
19 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q Q A A Q A Q A Q A A Q A Q A Q Q (By Ms. Beschen) to take a look. I'm good. So this appears to be an e-mail from you to Dan Gibson on November 19th, 2012. Mm-hm. This is after Murphy's termination; is that correct? Um, I don't remember the exact date. Okay. I think so. Okay. Let me know when you've had a chance
You are sending Dan Gibson information about Murphy's
Facebook page post; is that correct? Yes. Why? Because he was still in one stage or another fighting his termination. He was still what? Objecting to his termination from the sheriff's office. Okay. So what was the relevance of what he was posting in
November of 2012? This is more evidence of the fact that he shouldn't have been a law enforcement officer. Okay. No. Because he held these particular beliefs? Because he's advocating armed resistance against the
government. In the post, did you remember, did it actually state: advocating armed resistance? I am
Or is that your inference of what
20 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Q A Q A A Q A Q A Q was posted? That was my understanding of what these people were doing, yes. What -- okay. Then in about the middle of the e-mail where it How many more will we sit back
says, "How many has this been? and watch like this?"
Is that part of the post or is that your e-mail? It's part of the post. Okay. All right. Just wanted to clarify that. Do you recall
if Gibson responded to this? I don't recall. I don't remember.
Rough estimate, how many e-mails about Paul's Facebook page have you sent to Dan Gibson? Five or less. (Marked Deposition Exhibit No. 32) (By Ms. Beschen) I have. Okay. At the bottom of the e-mail, it appears that this is Have you had a chance to review?
sent originally from Bill Elfo to you on December 18th, 2011 at 2:06 PM. It states, I just glanced at Murphy's Facebook page.
In his profile picture, he is featured in a WCSO uniform with his rifle in a patrol vehicle wearing a Santa hat. The
comments he espouses on the page may tend to diminish the reputation of the WCSO and our confidence with the public. Again, please have the PA review. Mm-hm. (As Read)
21 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Q Q A Q e-mail. (By Ms. Beschen) Well, the question will be: What did you A Q Q A Q A Q A Q Do you know what PA is meant to stand for in that sentence? I assumed that it was the prosecuting attorney. Okay. And he says, "Again, please have the PA review." How many times prior to December of 2011 had you asked the prosecuting attorney to review Paul Murphy's Facebook page? It would be the same type of estimate that I gave you before, a rough guess, so it would be five or less. Okay. Very few. And then the middle of the page, it appears that you then forward this over to the prosecuting attorney; correct? Correct. So then there's a response to you from Dan Gibson that essentially says, you can't punish him for this; is that correct? MR. KAMERRER: Objection, misstates the content of the
understand the response to be telling you? He has a bunch of questions that would lead to further discussion essentially. Okay. The last sentence, it says, "That's my first reaction,
but let's talk further." Mm-hm. Did you have a face-to-face conversation with him?
22 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Q A Q A Q Q A Q Q A Q A A I don't recall a face-to-face. him on the phone. Okay. And what did you talk about? Like I believe that I talked with
Oh, I can't remember the specifics of that conversation.
I say, I'm pretty sure that we talked on the phone about it but, yeah. I can't remember the actual specifics of that.
Do you remember just in general? Expanding upon the questions that he asked, you know, was the picture -- was the concern the picture or the comments? talked about the fact that it was the association of the uniform with the comments. Do you recall what the comments were? I don't, no. Do you recall whether Dan Gibson rendered an opinion as to whether you could go forward and continue investigating? I don't. Okay. (Marked Deposition Exhibit No. 33) (By Ms. Beschen) After reading Exhibit 33, does this refresh And we
your recollection at all as to the conversation that you had with Mr. Gibson? Yes, it does. Okay. Now, what do you recall about that conversation?
We discussed the questions that Dan had raised in that e-mail. And after discussing it, we agreed that -- that there was no
23 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q A A Q Q Q A Q A Q A Q disciplinary action certainly that could be taken. Okay. In relation to that particular issue. Okay. And then you also say, "We should address this in a
social networking policy that we have on our list for the first of the year." Correct. Did that happen yet? We drafted a policy and it has -- we forwarded it to the deputy sheriff's guild and the other unions and it is in the, I think, stalled in the bargaining process would be the proper way to describe where it is. Okay. (Marked Deposition Exhibit No. 34) (By Ms. Beschen) Exhibit No. 34. the pages. Okay. Okay. So starting from the last page of this exhibit, which The court reporter has just handed you Go ahead and take a chance to look at all of Correct?
appears to be an e-mail from Dan Gibson to Bill Elfo and Jeff Parks, do you recall receiving this e-mail as well? I did not get the e-mail myself, but I did. to me so, yes, I have seen it. Okay. In that e-mail, they're talking about Paul's comments on It was forwarded
religion; is that right?
24 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q Q A A Q A Q A Q A Q Q A A They're talking about a specific post that he made about the burning Koran. Okay. Did that start an investigation?
I believe that we would call it a preliminary inquiry, the briefest of preliminary inquiries. investigation per se. Okay. Yes. Was that investigation number AI2012-002? Yes. I believe that it was. Did it get an investigation number? I did not really do an
Were you later asked by the guild for a copy of that investigation? Yes. I think so.
What was your response? Mm. Well, when we -- let me back up. I don't know if I was
directly asked or if the undersheriff -- I remember that there was some contentious issue about that particular thing. Eventually, they got a copy. Okay. But yeah. I don't recall how that all went down, but I think
that eventually I gave them a copy via a public disclosure request, if I remember. Was there initially any concerns about letting the guild know about that investigation? MR. KAMERRER: Object. Vague.
25 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Q Q A A Q Q A Q THE WITNESS: them know? I don't -- what do you mean by letting
I don't understand. Object. Vague.
MR. KAMERRER: (By Ms. Beschen)
Well, after they asked and you became aware Did you have any concerns about providing
that they had asked.
the investigation to the guild? MR. KAMERRER: (By Ms. Beschen) No? I know that Objection, vague.
I was not involved in that particular discussion.
there was some discussion between the undersheriff and the sheriff and the guild about that particular issue. involved in that. I wasn't
I simply stood by until that all was
resolved and eventually the public disclosure request was made and I fulfilled that request, so that's the bottom line. Okay. about? Again, I wasn't involved. about it. Yeah. I'm trying to think of what I knew There was some kind of What was the discussion that you were just referring to
I am not remembering.
conflict there, but I'm not remembering what it was over. Okay. So -(Marked Deposition Exhibit No. 35) (By Ms. Beschen) You can go ahead and review it and let me
know when you're done. Okay.
26 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q Q A A A Q Q A Q Q A Q A Q A Would you agree that this is an e-mail from you to Dan Gibson? Yes. The date that it was sent was October 19th, 2011? Yes. Where in the timeline of the election does that fall? I have no idea. I mean, I would assume that that would be a
couple of weeks before. The first line states, "The Sheriff wanted me to make you aware of some of the posts that have been made to the subject Facebook page." You're referring to Paul's Facebook page; is that correct? No. page. Okay. Do you know what started the watch of that campaign to We're referring to the campaign to Un-Elect Sheriff Elfo
Un-Elect Sheriff Elfo page? I'm sorry, say that again? What started the sheriff's office watching the campaign to Un-Elect Bill Elfo page? I started watching it because I had been watching Deputy Murphy's Facebook page and he often crosslinked to it. Okay. So that's what drew my attention to it, and he would often post some of his stuff on that page and vise versa. Do you remember the first conversation that you had with Bill
27 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A A Q A Q A Q A Q A Q A Q Elfo about that particular Facebook page? No. Do you remember whether he came to you to talk about it versus you going to him to talk about it? No. In the middle of that paragraph, it says that, Is there anything that can be done about the group's identification of Sergeant Mede and the implications they are making about his motives for supporting the sheriff? Mm-hm. Do you know what the implications were that you're referring to in that sentence? I don't remember. The second paragraph, it states on the first sentence, "While the Sheriff is mindful and supportive of the free speech issues at play here, this group of insiders continues to attack other members of the Sheriff's Office by name." Can you describe what you meant by attack? Not without seeing the posts. Okay. I can't remember. Okay. Do you know what came of this e-mail? Did you have a (As Read)
phone call with Dan Gibson after this? Yeah. I can't remember. MS. BESCHEN: All right. This is probably a good
28 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 breaking point if we want to stop for lunch and then. (Discussion Held Off The Record) (Deposition Continued, Volume I Concluded)
29 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 __________________________ Kristen M. Uhlig, #1934 Certified Court Reporter, Residing in Clinton, Washington. I further certify that the deposition, as transcribed, is a full, true, and accurate transcript of the testimony, including all questions and answers, and all objections, motions and exceptions of counsel made and taken at the time of the foregoing examination; I further certify that I am sealing the deposition in an envelope with the title to the above cause thereon and marked "Deposition Upon Oral Examination" of said witness and promptly causing the same to be delivered or forwarded to Counsel for the Opposing Party; IN WITNESS THEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my official seal this ___ day of____________, 2014. I further certify that all of the objections made at the time of said examination to my qualifications or the manner of taking the deposition, or to the conduct of any party, have been noted by me upon said deposition; I further certify that I am not a relative or employee or attorney or counsel of any of the parties to said action or counsel, and that I am not financially interested in the said action or the outcome thereof; I further certify that the witness examined, read, and signed the deposition after the same was transcribed, unless indicated in the record that the parties and the witness waive the signature; That the annexed and foregoing deposition of the witness named herein was taken stenographically before me and transcribed by me; STATE OF WASHINGTON ) ) COUNTY OF ISLAND ) C E R T I F I C A T E ss.
I, Kristen M. Uhlig, the undersigned CCR in and for the State of Washington, do hereby certify:
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Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v.

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 EXHIBIT DESCRIPTION PAGE EXAMINATION: PAGE I N D E X

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

Are you aware that Paul had involvement in a

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

It's vague and argumentative. (By Ms. Beschen)

You can still answer.

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

It starts out, "Hi Tara."

He's not going to

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

This is calculated to be disruptive, to be in bad

MR. BUTLER: THE REPORTER: MR. BUTLER:

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

13 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Q A Q A Q A Q A Q the room. Liz Gallery, Sheriff Elfo, Tara Adrian-Stavik,

I won't even put on the record what I've been

Other than reading it, no. Okay. Do you read it regularly?

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

Basically, he just wanted a moment to calm down and then

You would have to ask Sergeant Flynn that question.

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

16 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q A Q A Q A Q Q Okay. Do you know if there were any conversations or

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

You are sending Dan Gibson information about Murphy's

Or is that your inference of what

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

if Gibson responded to this? I don't recall. I don't remember.

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

Oh, I can't remember the specifics of that conversation.

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

religion; is that right?

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

25 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Q Q A A Q Q A Q THE WITNESS: them know? I don't -- what do you mean by letting

I don't understand. Object. Vague.

MR. KAMERRER: (By Ms. Beschen)

that they had asked.

I was not involved in that particular discussion.

I simply stood by until that all was

know when you're done. Okay.

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

Steven Cooley, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

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