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Zuckerberg Phones Obama for Answers
About NSA Spying
By Robert McMillan
03.13.14
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Mark Zuckerberg and President Barack Obama during a town hall meeting at Facebook
headquarters, April, 2011.
When youre Mark Zuckerberg, you can do things a little differently from everyone else. Worried
about a pesky construction project next door? Drop $30 million and buy up a four-pack of your
neighbors homes. Worried that the NSAs widespread surveillance may undermine everyones
trust in the internet and torpedo your social networking business? Give the President a call.
Apparently, thats what Zuck did last night, shortly after the website First Look Media reported
that the NSA had been masquerading as a Facebook server in order to infect target computers.
Ive called President Obama to express my frustration over the damage the government is
creating for all of our future, Zuckerberg wrote in a note he posted to Facebook today.
When our engineers work tirelessly to improve security, we imagine were protecting you against
criminals, not our own government.
Mark Zuckerberg
A White House spokeswoman confirmed that Zuckerberg and Obama spoke last night, discussing
recent reports in the press about alleged activities by the U.S. intelligence community, but she
declined to tell us what exactly was said. It seems, however, that Facebooks CEO and founder
did not get what he wanted. Unfortunately, it seems like it will take a very long time for true full
reform, Zuckerberg wrote.
Zuckerberg is just one of the many people across Silicon Valley who are concerned about the
future of the internet now that ex-NSA contractor Edward Snowden has revealed the extent of
the agencys surveillance programs. Although companies such as Facebook may participate in
many of the agencys efforts, the scope of the NSAs spying has taken even savvy Silicon Valley
insiders by surprise. Widespread spying undermines everyones trust in the internet. To keep
the internet strong, we need to keep it secure, Zuckerberg wrote. This is why Ive been so
confused and frustrated by the repeated reports of the behavior of the US government. When
our engineers work tirelessly to improve security, we imagine were protecting you against
criminals, not our own government.
Things were once better between Zuckerberg and Obama. Just over two years ago, Facebook
hosted a town hall meeting where the friendly discussion revolved around the economy. Back
then, the U.S. Federal Trade Commissions scrutiny of Facebooks privacy policies was the topic
most likely to come up in a private conversation. Since then, the tables have turned, and
Zuckerberg is now the guy worried about privacy.
Today, Zuckerberg called on the feds to be much more transparent about what theyre doing, or
otherwise people will believe the worst. But that isnt going to happen any time soon. Though
the NSA has said that parts of yesterdays reports are incorrect, there remains much that is still
unclear.
Robert McMillan is a writer with Wired Enterprise. Got a tip? Send him an email at:
robert_mcmillan [at] wired.com.
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drbloor 2 days ago
Zuckerberg is upset because the Feds are stealing crops from his data farm? Irony just croaked.

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W26Supergiant 2 days ago drbloor
I think he is worried because he now understands that the Feds are undermining the
basic principles of freedom and liberty on which this country was founded and he
understands that the American public...his customers.... don't have the B@lls to do
anything about it.

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drbloor 2 days ago W26Supergiant
If you're on FB, you're not a customer, you're content. His customers are the
businesses he sells your information to.

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Fritz Gneisenau a day ago drbloor
Is it much better if you use DISQUS ?

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M W 2 days ago W26Supergiant
Zuckerberg is worried that some people might retreat from products like
Facebook out of fear of NSA spying. He's worried about his bottom line. I'm fine
with that as long as his interests align with mine.

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Scott McCain 2 days ago M W
I think this is where he's (Zuckerberg) is coming from. My thought, after
reading the latest Snowden reveal, was to delete my FB account and
never go back again. It's apparently one of the NSA's favorite vectors for
attacks. I already knew about their package injection capabilities via
QUANTUM, and I knew they had the capability of "outracing" a link (by
doing some clever information induction which just screams quantum
coherence). And by doing so they could spoof just about anything they
wanted. Like a naive child I just assumed they used that tool to find the
bad guys in the dark corners of the net - places I don't go so I don't have to
worry about it. The latest reveal changed my outlook entirely.

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Fritz Gneisenau a day ago Scott McCain
I fail to see why they cannot pull the same s... with any other popular
serivce such as gmail, hotmail and gmx.
Mr Zuckerberg just discovers that there is no such thing as privacy on
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Mr Zuckerberg just discovers that there is no such thing as privacy on
networked computers. They are ALL wholly insecure. Android, Linux,
Windows, iOS,OSX all hopless.

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MustBeSaid 2 days ago W26Supergiant
More like he's worried about how the bad press will affect his business. That and
only that.

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notaun 2 days ago drbloor
Save some surveilance for me!

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Carbon-12 2 days ago
He phoned Obama, but right in the middle one of them sneezed and the NSA guy listening in
reflexively said "Bless you."

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Ran Dome 2 days ago
Aww, how cute, he thinks it might actually accomplish something. Here Zuck, The President just
called, he said the NSA promises to stop spying. You believe it and feel better now?

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Silver Fang 2 days ago
Even if it might be a publicity stunt, it at least raises awareness as to what's going on.

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BillStewart2012 2 days ago Silver Fang
So is that why I keep getting all those Facebook Friend Requests from my big brother?

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M W 2 days ago
The NSA should be completely defunded. It's an unnecessary agency.
I'd also like NSA employees to be prosecuted for hacking crimes like citizens are, but we know
that'll never happen. The law applies to us, but not to the NSA. They can break the law whenever
they feel like it.

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PeteEllis a day ago M W
The NSA has the duty to protect us from the cyber war operations conducted by China,
Russia and the other hacking nations. If we defund it we leave ourselves completely to
the likes of the Chinese Communist party and their hactivist friends! Some things may
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need to be fixed but you can not through the baby out with the bath water. Vote For the
right people this November and this can be fixed.

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M W a day ago PeteEllis
1. There are no "right people" to vote for. The "right people" have no hope of
collecting the necessary money to run a viable campaign. 95% of federal
elections are won by the candidate with the most money. That means, whoever
cozies up to donors like Booz Allen, Monsanto, and Goldman Sachs the most is
most likely to win any election.
2. The US government is inept. They're not protecting us from anything. They've
fooled people like you into believing we need to spend hundreds of billions of
dollars a year "protecting" us.
3. The Chinese are not going to hack me. And even if they did, there's nothing I
have that would interest them. American corporations are the ones who have to
worry about getting hacked. But guess what, that's their problem, not mine. It's
their responsibility to protect themselves from hacking. It is not mine. They're
forcing me to pay for this inept "protection", which is really just used to violate my
rights. That's a redistribution of wealth from the poor and middle class to the
wealthy.

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PeteEllis a day ago M W
So your take on the US is that all hope is lost in continuing a constitutional
Republic? So what is your solution to these problems. How do you handle
these problems in China?
BTW, the Chinese have been caught hacking Facebook, they care about
knowing every American as best they can. So, when they attack the US
they can defeat us in detail!

M W a day ago PeteEllis
No, not all hope is lost. A constitutional amendment on campaign finance
can fix this, and it can be done at the state level where the corruption isn't
quite as bad. It won't be easy, but it's possible.
www.wolf-pac.com
I don't really care about what the Chinese are doing and that threat is
exaggerated anyway. Government officials always exaggerate threats
because that's how they trick the public into increasing the funding for
their pet projects. The US government has cried wolf so many times, I
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assume they're always lying...and I'm usually right.

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starrychloe a day ago PeteEllis
What MW said. The NSA can't even stop the Chinese from stealing F-35 jet
fighter plans! America and Britain invented modern public key encryption - without
the government!

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PeteEllis a day ago starrychloe
So, you know for a fact that the Chinese have stolen F-35 fighter plans.
That is complete nonsense. It is just part of the Chinese propaganda effort
to make the world think they are a first world military power. truth is they
still rely on massive numbers just like they always have. I am sure Japan
would kick their ass in a Naval war.

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Fritz Gneisenau a day ago M W
NSA's job is to protect the 1% against the 99%. I am sure Mr Zuck will understand this
concept in the long run.

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The_Doorman a day ago
Hello Pot? This is Kettle.

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Dabadu 2 days ago
Can't the NSA respect facebook and just buy the private information like everyone else? Jeez...

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CyncialOne 2 days ago
Somebody bitch slap Zuck. He's one of the worst, most perverted offenders in this area.
Plus he should be in jail for stealing Facebook from the Twins, not so filthy stinkin rich he can
drunk dial the POTUS!

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Trappp a day ago CyncialOne
No kidding. Too bad Obama didn't tell him to go get Ballmered and then sic the FBI on
him for telephone harassment.

disqus_GS46e5I0h0 2 days ago
zuck? oh no. you know i have to. from now on when something happens because new money
buys privilege, it will be a zucky thing. so, when the president gives preferential treatment
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buys privilege, it will be a zucky thing. so, when the president gives preferential treatment
because you are an accidental billionaire, that definitely zucks.,

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Steve Johnson 2 days ago disqus_GS46e5I0h0
Accidental billionaire, your just jealous.

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disqus_GS46e5I0h0 2 days ago Steve Johnson
absolutely. and it's you're, not your.

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Enzo a day ago
He'd better cash in his beans before the dems printing press runs out of paper after all that is the
WHOLE reason FB is valued so obscenely high on OUR backs.

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alexandrek 2 days ago
FB is the commercial version of the NSA, they are collecting all your datas to better sell targeted
ads, push marketing and sell at high price marketing landscape and intelligence

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Fritz Gneisenau a day ago alexandrek
Plus he collects all your psychological weak points, should the feds ever feel a need to
destroy you.
Think of a war they make and you oppose, for example.

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PeteEllis a day ago Fritz Gneisenau
Think about what foreign countries are doing with this information as well.

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alexandrek 17 hours ago PeteEllis
not sure a lot of countries can afford the prices that FB is putting on your
datas, only giant groups as P&G, unilevers and the US can.
Most others countries, as Russian shown recently, are targeting big
people, deciders, politicians, not the masses like nSA

PeteEllis 8 hours ago alexandrek
That is incorrect. China collects data on ordinary Americans.
http://nypost.com/2014/02/24/c...
http://www.techtimes.com/artic...
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China is the worlds real cyber criminal. everything you hear about the US
comes from one source, Snowden. He betrayed his country why would he
be telling the truth now?

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starrychloe 2 days ago
When you dance with the devil, expect to get burned.

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PeteEllis a day ago starrychloe
Why do people give FB their information and then yell rape? If someone told me twenty
years ago that this would be happening I would have told them they were insane.

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Sam Makco 2 days ago
Proves that even Mark Zuckerberg doesn't know it all! He called the wrong man !

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Steve Johnson 2 days ago
Seems the NSA is taking some plays from Putin's play book.

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D R 2 days ago Steve Johnson
you think the NSA just started doing this stuff recently? there have been reports, both by
the NSA [we wholesale spied on American's sending telegrams, but we stopped just
before a reporter was about to out us, and a number of whistleblowers over the years].
they have been doing illegal things at least since WW II, if not earlier.
the concept of 'oversight' seems to be a joke to both Congress and the NSA, unless the
NSA is caught spying on Congress.

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Scott McCain 2 days ago D R
The NSA wasn't commissioned until after WW II (1950s I believe), so not since
"at least WW II". Before 9/11 most of the NSA budget was spent on SIGINT which
was very specific to foreign intelligence. It was the patriot act that weaponized the
NSA.
I do agree with you regarding the oversight though. I got a serious chuckle
recently over how Senator Feinstien got her panties all up in a wad because she
found out one of her computers was tampered with.

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D R 2 days ago Scott McCain
9/11 got them a greatly increased budget and the patriot act
the patriot act made more of what they legal [the wiretapping they did was
illegal, even with the patriot act]
before 9/11, they were already spying on as many american's as they
could, they just didn't have the budget for it like they have now.

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Fritz Gneisenau a day ago Scott McCain
Predecessors of NSA (Army and Navy intelligence, read Puzzle Palace)
did dragnet collection against the entire US telegram traffic since the
existence of telegrams. Nothing really new here.
They also broke 100% of japanese government telegrams to their
embassy in Washington in the 1920s. One reason the japanese got really
pissed.

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Scott McCain 2 days ago Steve Johnson
I think it's the other way around. Putin's just not as good (or not as concerned) at hiding it.

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Brandon a day ago
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I feel like there's a very simple idea that isn't being understood. Why do internet companies (like
facebook, king digital entertainment, or any other app maker) do what they do? What I mean is,
how do they provide these incredible applications to us... for free? In most cases, these
companies provide to us exactly what we seek - a means of connecting, entertainment, or data.
Have you ever wondered why many of these companies offer these services to you at no cost?
There is no free lunch, unfortunately and it certainly doesn't do their bottom line any good to run a
charity, so why do they do it? The trade off here is important. Your data. You give your data so
that the company can, in turn, sell it to interested parties. This is how the facebooks and king
digitals run; they collect your data which you freely give them to use the service and they sell it.
To many, the concern about what these companies/governments do with this data is a very
personal topic, but in reality your data makes up a fraction of a fraction of a kilobyte. It's generally
not individually studied (unless the NSA wants to merk you), or broadcasted to the public, it's
simply a data point. A data point which is run through a host of algorithms to determine how best
to sell you things. Perhaps you're a tentacle pr0n connoisseur and you spend your internet time
cavorting about, in search of that one epic masterpiece which brings together in perfect unison
squid, tentacles, and women. That fact ends up in some sales managers office, in a deck with a
pretty pie chart claiming that this demographic (you and 10924819084901 other people who fit
into the tentacle pr0n category) have these tendencies and this is how we should sell you that

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sunnylite 2 days ago
Public use of the Internet is merely a courtesy, the World Wide Web is owned by privately
funded Corporations.

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Fritz Gneisenau a day ago sunnylite
Given the NSA-GCHQ crimes, I am no longer sure this is true. It appears NSA-GCHQ
owns ALL of us.

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MustBeSaid 2 days ago sunnylite
Lots of tax money went into it. Lots and lots of tax money and tax breaks.

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beantown01 2 days ago
I'm curious how much revenue was lost during those moments of facebook theft?

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Fritz Gneisenau a day ago beantown01
Mr Zuck is much more concerned about millions of suckers stopping to divulge their
innermost secrets and feelings to his PHP contraption.
You know, as in "people talking about private stuff only when meeting others in person".
Think about that horrible prospect !

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Dustin 2 days ago
Maybe if our populous was healthy and mentally sane we wouldn't have to worry about
everything they're doing...

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