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24th July 2014, 21:41
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Oh, PETA, for fuck's sakes....
You know that whole water problem up in Detroit?
Well, PETA has declared that they will pay the water bills for ten families in Detroit....as long as
they go vegan for one month.
OK....two things:
First, if this is just a publicity stunt, then it makes PETA out to bwhat I've already thought they
were; Namely, assholes. If they're serious, then they're even bigger assholes because that is mafia
levels of tit-for-tat.
Second, many of the affected parts in Detroit are food deserts. If you seriously expect these people
to stay vegan for a whole month, you had better be airdropping supplies every couple of days,
because otherwise that promise is gonna get broken pretty damn quick.
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My ex would love and support them doing this even more so. PeTA just shows itself to be a
disgusting organization more and more.
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24th July 2014, 21:50
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one more reason to find PETA disgusting, and I know many vegans that think so. They try to play
off issues like sexism and the holocaust against animal rights and it's just embarassing. Why can't
you adress animal rights without making a total prick out of yourself? I mean, other organisations
can, but they're not that powerful, unfortunately.
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I've maintained that PETA is the greatest enemy of the animal rights movement for a few years
now. More than any carnivore movement or even the meat industry, PETA's flagrant, colossal,
sheer, and flaming stupidity damages the movement in the arena of public opinion. The fact that
they're gigantic hypocrites who euthanise massive numbers of animals and sacrifice actually
effective tactics for pointless grandstanding makes the work of actual animal rights activists so
much harder.
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As a real an legitimate member of PeTA (not PETA), I will say, fuck off. Amazing how poor families
in India manage to have vegetarian and vegan diets but of course, in America, class and status
are measured in meats and glutens and bacon and shit. There is nothing disgusting about this at
all. Like, wow. I would totally do this and I'm pretty sure even with my food stamp amount being
fucked up currently, could go vegan, if I wanted. Stfu. Honestly.
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As a real an legitimate member of PeTA (not PETA), I will say, fuck off. Amazing how poor
families in India manage to have vegetarian and vegan diets but of course, in America,
class and status are measured in meats and glutens and bacon and shit. There is nothing
disgusting about this at all. Like, wow. I would totally do this and I'm pretty sure even
with my food stamp amount being fucked up currently, could go vegan, if I wanted. Stfu.
Honestly.
The main issue I believe people are having is that PETA is taking the plight of these people and not
only using it as a chance to crassly grandstand, but also essentially holding basic essentials to
living at ransom.
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As a real an legitimate member of PeTA (not PETA), I will say, fuck off. Amazing how poor
families in India manage to have vegetarian and vegan diets but of course, in America,
class and status are measured in meats and glutens and bacon and shit. There is nothing
disgusting about this at all. Like, wow. I would totally do this and I'm pretty sure even
with my food stamp amount being fucked up currently, could go vegan, if I wanted. Stfu.
Honestly.
no one's saying that eating vegan would be bad for these families. Of course it's not. I don't know
how it's in the US, but here, eating healthy and vegan is rather some symbol of "status" than
eating meat and glutens and stuff. The part that sucks is that they attach strings to their
"welfare", in favor of their own publicity. PeTA has a long history of disgusting publicity campaigns,
be it this holocaust comparison or "your vegan boyfriend that fucked you so hard you broke your
neck", and lately they adressed something like "autism with children is linked to milk consumption",
which was "backed" by a totally ridiculous study with only 20 participants. Basically, there is no
problem with going vegan with not so much money, but I consider it some really bad publicity
stunt.
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The main issue I believe people are having is that PETA is taking the plight of these people
and not only using it as a chance to crassly grandstand, but also essentially holding basic
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It's called having morals and respect. I mean, here PeTA, is offering to help people while
simultaneously spreading the message of having some semblance of respect for the
ecosystem and other sentient non-human animals and you people, some of whom are from
the petty bourgeois and places of privelages, using this and twisting it to role play some classist
bullshit pretentiousness. That's what's lame. You hipster fucks. Omg eat healthy and humanely and
get free water. Which woul mean they then could save up their money, put it towards other things
and get ahead a little bit. You're right, what assholes.
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I agree that this is ridiculous, but I would just caution that the food desert line is just wrong or
misleading. Detroit does not have many chains, that much is true, but there are over a hundred full
service grocery stores and many of them are affiliated with national chains (i.e., Spartan foods).
Now there are pricing issues and there may be selection problems with produce and other healthy
foods within those stores, but the absence of a national chain does not a food desert make.
24th July 2014, 22:26
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The main issue I believe people are having is that PETA is taking the plight of these people
and not only using it as a chance to crassly grandstand, but also essentially holding basic
essentials to living at ransom.
This.
If you're going to do something charitable then just do it. Don't make a fuss, and do it
unconditionally. The organisation doesn't care about these families, they just see them as pawns
to generate publicity. It's an exploitative use of the problems in Detroit.
Also, what is it meant to achieve aside from publicity? One month of enforced veganism isn't going
to help the animal rights movement.
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I should also add that I'm vegan. I don't know whether this is true for the US, but in the UK
healthier food generally does cost more. Meat can be expensive, yes, but foods that are high in
protein and staples of many vegan diets aren't always cheap or easy to find.
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I should also add that I'm vegan. I don't know whether this is true for the US, but in the
UK healthier food generally does cost more. Meat can be expensive, yes, but foods that
are high in protein and staples of many vegan diets aren't always cheap or easy to find.
In the US, I've been homeless and vegetarian. It's not that hard.
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Vegetarian isn't that hard but vegan is more difficult.
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Vegetarian isn't that hard but vegan is more difficult.
No is not, I just wasn't ethically vegan the time. I could do the same and be vegan.
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I know people here that are vegans and healthy and they have food expenses far less than
150$/month. It's just important that you're willing to cook by yourself. That soy meat stuff is only
expensive when bought "ready to eat" (don't know better expression, you know what I mean).
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As a real an legitimate member of PeTA (not PETA), I will say, fuck off. Amazing how
poor families in India manage to have vegetarian and vegan diets but of course, in
America, class and status are measured in meats and glutens and bacon and shit. There is
nothing disgusting about this at all. Like, wow. I would totally do this and I'm pretty sure
even with my food stamp amount being fucked up currently, could go vegan, if I wanted.
Stfu. Honestly.
Fuck you, "manage" or have little choice?
Apart from the fact that religion plays a role in the diet of people in India. I'm sure the fact that a
large section of people can't afford enough food to properly sustain themselves has more to do
with it.
I truly find it puzzling that people who think that their diet is political or that anyone else cares
how little meat they eat point to India as if it doesn't have some of the worst starvation and
malnutrition in the world, as if 3000 people don't die there every day due to a lack of food.
As for PeTA, what should we expect from an organisation which will use any situation to
shamelessly promote itself? If PeTA really gave a fuck then it would just pay these people's bills
and buy them a weeks worth of vegan shopping or some shit.
Fuck PeTA and fuck it's piece of shit membership.
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How were you homeless and vegetarian Vox? I can barely afford the shit fake-food that doesn't
even really contain meat (well any meat anyone should be eating). It sounds like there is
something you're not mentioning here.
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OK, this is the shit that makes people hate vegans/vegetarians. And I'm a vegetarian, so I call
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That hasn't been my experience. What have I been doing wrong?
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How were you homeless and vegetarian Vox? I can barely afford the shit fake-food that
doesn't even really contain meat (well any meat anyone should be eating). It sounds like
there is something you're not mentioning here.
Dumpster diving maybe? It is true that supermarkets throw loads of good food away...
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Yeah but that's pretty dangerous because they throw away hazardous chemicals as well. And
besides that's not a very good argument for the affordability of vegan/vegetarian options. And I'm
saying this as a single person with no children to take care of and feed.
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