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CommentsfromDOED
1 It is not clearly mentioned that how to integrate VALORAGUA software and WASP
software into developing into a model and mention clearly that what are the output
parameters.Also,mentionclearlythatwhataretheinputparametersofthesetwosoftware.
AddressedinSection3.8and3.9
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2 Provide in brief the expected output of the guideline in chapter wise and explain what are to
bewrittenineachchapter.
GuidelineTOC
AnnexC
3 In the ToR, (page 40), it is written that the guideline preparation study shall cover following on
12 bullets forms. Explain in detail the rationality of covering all things mentioned in these
bullets, how to conduct these studies after approval of the inception report and how it will
helponpreparationtheguidelines.
Coveredinanewchpater3.DeskStudy
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4
In the ToR (included in the page, 40), it is mentioned in 9
th
bullet Use power system planning
and analysis software like "WASP" and "Valoragua" and other models, if any, for above studies.
Mention clearly, whether, use of WASP and Valoragua are sufficient for preparation of
guideline and why and if only use of WASP and Valoragua are not sufficient, then give reason
whyitisnotsufficient.Hasconsultantindentifiedonlyothermodels?
Preliminaryreviewofthemodelsshowthatthesemodelsare
sufficientfortheguidelines.
5 DatarequiredforWASPandVALORAGUAshallbeenumeratedandsamplesbeprovided. TheinputdataareenumereatedinSections3.83.9
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6 Mode of running WASP and VALORAGUA shall be described in detail emphasizing on sequence
anduseofoutputdatafromoneprogramtoanother.
ItisaddressedinSection3.9
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7 VALORAGUA and Core programs of WASP were developed in FORTRAN and compiled with old
versions. Most computers in DOED use 32 bit Windows environment and there are also
methods of running 32 bit software in 64bit environment (unless these are device drivers).
So,thisshouldnotbeanissue.
TheprogramsruninWindows32bitenvironment,text
correctedand64bitissuedeleted.
8 Hydropower plants are to be categorized in terms of runoff river plant and storage plant. Run
off river plants are further categorized in terms of simple run off and daily poundage run off.
Take this matter into consideration while writing the inception report. (eg. chapter 3.2.9 (a) &
3.2.12etc.)
Section3.4.6isdedicatedtotheclassificationofhydroplant
accrodingtoflowregulation
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9 DeletetheworkWECSfromS.N.9,10,13to22ofreferences. Theerrorsarecorrected.
10
Clarify as to how Model Project Development Agreement and manuals mentioned in the 3
rd
to7
th
bulletinChapter3.1.1.2willbeusedtopreparetheguidelines.
Itisremovedasithasnoinfluenceonthepoweroptimization
guidelines
11 Create a new chapter under heading Desk Study after the present chapter 2 and before the
present chapter 3 and in this chapter. Chapter 4.2, 4.2.1. 4.2.2, 4.2.3 4.2.4, 4.2.5, & 4.2.5.2
shouldbewrittentomakeasintheinceptionphase.
Achaptercalled"DeskStudy"iscreatedasadvisedandtheTOR
ishandledwithduediligence. 736
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12 Numbering of the table number as done in the report is incorrect. For example, Table 1 should
be labeled as Table 2.1 as the table is placed in the chapter 2. Similarly Table no 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7
should be labeled as 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, 4.4, 4.5 and 4.6 respectively. Similarly, label the figure
providedbetweenpage5&6asFig.3.1.
Thenumberingoftablesandfiguresisdonecosistently.
13 Fig4ismissing.Providedit.Figureno2,3shouldbelabeledas4.14.2respectively. Missingfiguresareplacedandlabledasrequired.
14 All the tables and figures provided in the report shall be mentioned at the appropriate place.
For example, there in Table1 but in the text, table 1 is not mentioned. Similarly, there is Figure
2butFigure2isnotmentionedinthetextinChapter4.
Itisdoneappropriatelyasadvisedandtheerrorsremoved.
15 Provide page numbering to the Overall Flow chart of methodology which is placed between
pageno5and6.
Thepagenumberto"Figure4.2.1OverallFlowChart"
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16 In the chapter 4.2.2 and 4.2.3, dont write like this .. is given in the Table
below Rather this should be written that is given in Table 2, 4 & 5. So, refer all
tablesinthetextexplicitly.(ReferTable2,3,4,5,6,7)
Itisdoneappropriately
17 In the Table, provide a column under heading S.N. in the extreme left" and write 1, 2, 4 or
applicableThisshouldbeadoptedinthetables.
Itisdoneconsistently
18 Contents described in the table 7 are ok but these figures should be taken from NEA data.
Yearsquotedintable5e.g.B.S.201213etc.iswrong.Quotecorrectyearsinthetable.
ThedataareaccuratelytabulatedinTable3.3.1(Souce10year
hydropowerdevelopmentplan) 17
19 In the chapter, separate subchapter, mention about data of contract agreement on which
DoED and the consultant sign the agreement to conduct the study and describe on title about
DoEDroleanddutyinregardofhydropowerdevelopment.
Section1.2isdedicatedtoDOED
1
20 Provide a political map of Nepal in A3 size and show all constructed and under construction
projectsinthismap.
IspresentedinFigure3.4.1.Alldetailspertainingto
transmissionlinesandpowerplantswillbeupdatedtothe
latestdateandincludedintheforthcomingdraftreport.
19
21
Pgv,2
nd
and4
th
para:DoEDhasemployedJVofSILTandERMC,notERMCalone.
CorrectedEverywhere(e.g.Section1.3) 2
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22 PGvi,Istpara:MentionofletterfromDoEDtodifferentorganizationfordatasupplyto
consultantshouldalsobemade.
Isdonewhereverneeded
23 Pg2,Table1:Activitiestobeundertakenarenotcomplete.Followingactivitiesaremissingin
thetable:
Formulationofapproachandmethodologies
Formulationofmechanismforknowledgetransfer
Reportingmechanism.
Workplan/timescheduleetc.
Addedasadvised(TableNo.2.2.1)
3
24 Pg3:6throw:PreparationofGuidelines:
ThecompletecoverageundertheguidelinesasperTORandScopeofWorksisnotmentioned.
IsdoneassuggestedSeee.g.table2.2.1(SN6)
25 Overallflowchartofmethodology:
Reviewandassessmentofcompletedandunderconstructionmajorhydropowerprojectsis
missinginReviewandAssessmentbox.
Oneofthemajortasksi.e.preparingreferenceleastcostscenarioismissinginthewhole
flowchart.
Isdoneassuggested(Figure4.2.1)
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26 NoReferenceofNationalWaterPlanisbeingmadewhichisveryimportantdocumentforthe
studyunderconsideration.
Isdone.ItisreferenceN#1
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27 ExistingTransmissionfacilitiesshouldbereviewedforsystemloadforecastandstudying
export/importpotential.
Isreviewedassuggested(Section3.2)
28 On page VII the export potential of Nepal is mentioned as 12031 MW. Is this correct
information?Whatisthesourceofit?
ThesourceisCEA,howeverthatisthetotalshortageinIndia
partofwhichisNepal'sexportpotentialfornepal(Reference5) 60
29 The writing of this Inception Report is like the proposal submitted previously as per RFP. For
instance the inception report will be submitted , technical advisory group will be
formed.This is inception report and shall be corrected accordingly( page 6 last paragraph,
page7pageno.11,3.3.1)
Theerrorsarecorrected.(e.g.Section4.3.1)
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30 In section 3.2.10 there is mentioned about other model, please be specific and write about
thatmodelyouareplanningtousewithjustification
ItisrealizedthatVALORGUAandWASParesufficient.The
referencestoothermodelareremoved.
31 Is there any relevance of copy of details of Survey Licenses which has been put on annex? It is
suggested to summarise them. Further, the map of power station, transmission and sub
stationsarenotcleartounderstand.
Thesedetailsareremovedandonlytheoperatingandunder
constructionplantsarelistedanddiscussedinSection3.4.6 22
32 Theliteraturereviewportionshouldbeelaborated. ItiselaboratedinChapter3.("DeskStudy") 7
33 The information given in the first paragraph of page 16 about VALORAGUA software are not
correct.Pleasecorrectthese.
CorrectedassuggestedseeSection5.1.1.2
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34 The references provided shall be correctly mentioned as per standard practice (like WECS
Design guidelines for Water Conveyance System of Hydropower Projects it is published by
DOEDtherearemanysuchtypeofmistakecorrectthese)
Erratacorrectedasnoticed
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35 The report is not in sequence as mentioned in flow chart (compilation of hydrometrological
data, review of existing national guidelines and norms etc. shall be done in inception report
but these are not presented in this report). Please write all the scope of works in sequential
orderwithjustification
ItisdoneinChapter3
7
36 Passageofsection3.3.2shallbecorrected. Doneassuggested(nowSection4.3.2) 46
37 Inpage6,firstparagraph,thereiswrittenaboutfig1,butthereisnotlabeloffig1inreport. Thishasbeencorrected.Thefigure1isrenumberedtoFigure
4.2.1(Section3.2)
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38 Consultant is asking about newer version VALORAGUA compatible to 64 bit computer. But
DOEDdoesnothavethis.
Themodelwillbesetupin32bitWindowsEnvironment.So
thereisnoneedofenquiryaboutnewerversionsof
VALORAGUAandWASP.
39 The purpose of this study is to prepare the optimization guidelines of hydropower plants as
wellaspowersystem.Henceitisrequestedtorewritethesection3.2.12,page9.
Itisrerwitten.(see4.2.13)
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40 What is the significance of aerial photographs and Model Project Development Agreement in
conductingthestudy?(Section3.1.1/3.2.1onpage5,7andSection3.2.5onpage8)
Thesetermsareremoved
41 Others:
oSourcesofalltheinformationshallbementionedcorrectly.
oThereareothermanyspellingerrorsandgrammaticalerrorswhichshouldbecorrected
checkingthoroughly.
oTherearemanymistakesinAbbreviationAcronyms.Correctthem(LikeEIA,Q20,Q90,Mwh,
andmanyothers)
Sourcesduelyindicated;errorsareremoved;abbreviationsare
corrected
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CommentsfromMr.SherSinghBhat
a Atvariouscontexts,includingtheoverallflowchartofmethodology,seasonalvariationof
demandhasbeenconsidered.ButinourcaseofDailyDemandCurve,DailyLoadfactoris52%
andhencetimeofthedayvariationsareimportanttoconsiderforoptimization.Pleasetake
thisinnote.
Thishasbeentakenintoaccount(Section3.3)
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b WehavebeendoingnumerousHydrologicalandMeteorologicalstudies.Willitbeappropriate
tospecifythetimelinevalidityofsuchstudiesforthepurposeofoptimization.Astudy
performedtodaywillholdtillhowmanyyearsdowntheline?
Thenoteistakenintoaccount
c Standaloneprojectoptimizationorprojectoptimizationinthissystem(networkormarket) Optimizationofstandaloneprojectiseasier
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CommentsfromMr.A.Rajbhnadari
1 ThoughtheToRsobjectivesarenotthatexplicit,myunderstandingarethattheobjectivesof
theStudyProjectseemtobetwofold:
a.DeterminationofLRMC.GenerallyLRMCoravoidedthermalisusedtovaluebenefitsagainst
costforplantsizeoptimizationofhydropowerprojects.
b.CapacityBuildingofDOEDstaff.
Correct
2 ThereisconfusionwhetherthepurposeofthestudyispreparationofGuidelinesforPower
SystemOptimation(Planning)orGuidelinesforplantsizeoptimizationofhydropowerprojects.
MyunderstandingisthatPowerSystemPlanningistheprocesstoworkouttheGuidelinesfor
plantsizeoptimizationofhydropowerprojects.
Correctnotion.Itisforboth
3 PowerSystemPlanningisessentiallyguidedbytwoprinciples:
a.Demandforelectricityisnotunlimited.
b.Availabilityoffundstofinancetheconstructionofhydropowerprojectsisalsonot
unlimited.
Intheabsenceofthesetwoguidingprinciples,thereislittleuseofdoingPowerSystem
Planning.
Agreedupon
4 Isthefieldvisitsreallynecessary? Yes
5 ExecutiveSummaryviipara4:couplingofVALORAGUAandWASPsoftware.Isitreally
possibleastheyareIAEAsproprietarysoftware.
Theycanbemadeworkseamlesslyiftheconcernedagencies
agreeupon
6 Para3.1.3constantlymonitoredalsofromHeadOfficebacksupportandqualityassurance
system.Whatdoesthisimply?
TheColnsultant'sstandardprocess
7 Para3.2.9..easilycompactable(compatible?)forWASPandVALORAGUA.Whichsoftware
doestheConsultantintendtouse?
Noothersoftwarewillbeused.Sothetextisremoved
8 Para3.2.10:SameasComment5. Theycanbemadeworkseamlesslyiftheconcernedagencies
agreeupon
9 Para4.1.4NotClear.PowerSystemPlanningisgenerallycarriedoutforlongterm(>20
years).OnlythesimulationresultscanbebrokendownintoShort,MediumandLongterms.
Agreedupon
10 Para4.1.5.2:SameasComment4 Yes
11 Para4.2.3WhileassessingtheexportpotentialtoIndia,arewetryingtoexportfirmcapacity
andfirmenergyorjusttheseasonalsurplus?
Ourwishwouldbeseasonalsurplus,butitwillbedetermined
bymutualbusinessagreements.
12 Pg26Para6:SameasComment5. Theycanbemadeworkseamlesslyiftheconcernedagencies
agreeupon
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CommentsfromMr.R.B.Karki
1 Moreemphasisandfocushavebeengiventoexportmarketonlywhilepreparingguidelinesof
availablehydropotentialwithoutgivingprioritytodomesticmarket.Soitisadvisedtogive
morefocustodomesticdemandtooindifferenttimeframei.e.short,midandlongtermfor
overalleconomicprosperityofthecountryinadditiontoexpertmarket.
Thenoteistakenintoaccount
AnnexC
2 GoingthroughtheinceptionreportitseemsthattheConsultantdidnotclearly/fully
understoodthescopeofstudy.Preparationof"GuidelinesforPowerSystemOptimization
ofHydropowerProject"meansitisnotonlytooptimizetheparametershydro
powergenerationprojects/plantsbutoverallcompletepowersystemstart
fromgeneration(production)uptoendusemarketviereliabletransmissionlines.So,needto
optimizeoverallparametersofcompletepowersystem.
ItwillbedoneasTORrequires
3 Inpagevisecondparaofreport,itismentionedthattheConsultantwillcarryoutstudyasper
negotiationwithClient,butwetheTAGrouparenotknownofit.
Thestatementisremovedandtheworkwillbedoneaccording
toTOR
4 Thefirstreporthasmistakeindifferentpagese.g.evenoncoverpagethetitleshallbe"
PreparationofGuidelinesforPowerSystemOptimizationofHydropowerProjectsbutnot"
PreparationofGuidelinesforPowerSystemOptimizationGuidelinesofHydropowerProject"
Thankyouforindicatingthemistakes.Theerrorsareremoved
asnoted.
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CommentsfromDr.N.R.Karki
1 TheConsultanthasreviewedseveralrelevantdocumentsincludingActs,guidelines,policies,
Laws,conventionstounderstandtheframeworkunderwhichtheproposedguidelineshaveto
beprepared.
Agreed
2 TheConsultantshallcomeoutwiththeguidelinethatwillenablethesystemplanners,utilities
andpowerprojectdevelopersintheirrespectiveworkstoarriveatthebestpossibledecisions
Agreed
3 Theguidelineshallbethebasisforoptimizationofthewholepowersystemincluding
generation,transmission,distributionconsideringthepossibleimport/exportscenariowiththe
neighbouringcountry/countries.
Agreed
4 In the context of competition at electricity generation, transmission and distribution in the
country, it is more pertinent to carry out system analyses under different scenarios and predict
therespectiveoptimalsolutions.
Agreed
5 This guideline shall serve as reference book for potential power developers and the buyers of
their products (read:electricity) to arrive at mutally beneficial rates when concluding Power
PurchaseAgreements.
Agreed
6 Thesignificanceofboththeavailibilityofpowergenerationandpresenceofdemandforpower
is imminent in any electric power system. As the creation of these facilities have significant
lead times, it is necessary to assess demand and create necessary facilities on timely manner.
The guideline, therefore, shall cover the transmission system as well. The distribution systems
may not be considered separately but their loads can be lumped and connected to the
transmission/subtransmissionvoltagelevels.
Agreed
7 The Consultant shall provide the customised model for Power System Optimization clearly
identifying the system variables/parameters and methods of obtaining them. Often, the
optimization process does not result in optimal/best solution because of wrong/bad choice of
system variables/parameters. This issue has to be clearly spelt out and necessary measures
recommended.
Agreed
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CommentsfromDr.A.Mishra
1 Forbeteranalysismoredataneedtobecollected ThanksforYoursuggestion.Moredatasarebeingcollected.
2 brainstormingwithfactsislacking Consultantwillstrivetodomorebrainstroming.
3 understandingofcharachtersticdiferencesforoptimalplaningthermaldominatedandhydro
dominatedhydrothermalpowersystemisneeded.
Moreattensionwillbegiventoit
Specific
1 Section3.2.5Reviewoflongtermelectricity(powerandenergy)demandandidentifyvarious
demandsundervariouseconomicscenarios
othemeaningofvariouseconomicscenarioscouldhavebeenelaboratedinreport.i.e.isit
simplybasedondifferentGDPsorbasedonscenariosforincreasedorreplacementofend
uses?Thisisimportant,asbesidestheindustrialgrowth,thereiswidescopeforreplacement
ofendusesbyelectricityinNepalfromtransportaiontohouseholdappllicationswhichmay
notexactlyrepresentedbyGDPalone)
oinsec.4.2.2,thecollecteddemandforcastdatafor20112027isonlyatasinglescenario,in
theforcastbyNEAconsulatntisnotclearaboutthescenario,thoughitisguessedinthereport
thatitmightbeat4%GDP.
ElaboratednowinSection3.1
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2 Section4.2.3Reviewofexportmarket,
oAspertheAllIndiaActualPowerSupplyposition(April2010toMarch2011)theshortageof
peakdemandhasbeenshowntobe12031MWwhichofcourseisahugemarketfrom
Nepaleaseprospectves.Howeverthereportitselfmentionthatitsunder10%ofIndiastotal
demand.Thismightbemangagbleinitsowne.g.byeffectivedemandsidemanagment,
properlossreductionsetc.Thereportlacksonbrainstorming(sensitivity)onsuch.
oInTable5thetenyearforcastofenergydemandinIndiahasbeenpresentedonlyatasingle
GDP(i.e.predicatedyeralyGDP).Consideringtheinternationaleconomysenario,demand
forcastforalternativeGDPscouldhavebeenpresented.
Itisdiscussedin3.2inviewofnationaldocuments
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3 Section4.2.4Reviewofseasonalvariationofpowerandenergy,
oTheyearforwhichthedataispresented,Nepalisfacingaampleloadsheding.Hencethe
presentedpeakdemandisnottheactualbutapredictedoneonly.Alsothepresenteddata
showsaveryinterestingtrendi.e.Thedryseasonpeakdemandofpreviousyearisalmostthe
sameasthewetseasonpeakdemandofnextyearorvsversaforallyear(777:774,845:843,
919:919).Ifitistrue,couldgreatelysimplifytheanalysisofseasonalvariationofdemand
analysis.
oForbetterunderstandingaboutseasonalvariationsomemorepreviousyearsdata(possibly
withoutloadsheding)mightbemeaningfull.
Iselaborated
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4 Theabovesuggestions/commentsareonlyforthosedatawhichhavebeenpresented.Besides
above,moredatae.g.hydrologicaldataetc.needtobecollecetdasperthescopeatinception
level.
aIselaborated;biselaborated;hydrologicaldataare
collected
5 Section3.2.9LRMCwillbecalculatedundereachsenarios.................willbecalculatedby
appropriatesoftware.
oAtthisstage,itcouldhavementionedthefactors,powersystemcompomnentsand
assumptionstobemadeforLRMC.
oDifferentalternativemethodsforLRMCcomputationscouldatleastbepresented.
Elaborated;Alternativemethodswillbeusedtoverifyresults
fromWASP
6 SectionReview................VALORAGUAmodel....Thistoolisdevelopedfor..................formixed
hydrothermalsystems
oinalmostallinternationalliteraturesandsoftwaresmixedhydrothermalsystemsmeans
mixedhydrothermalsystemswithdominantlythermalsystem.HoweverinNepleasecontext
meaningofmixedhydrothermalsystemsmeansmixedhydrothermalsystemswithhydro
dominatedsystem.
othereischarchteresticdifererncesintwosystems,e.g.adecoupledoptimalrealandreactive
powerplanningmightbe(are)validwithacceptabledegreeofoptimizationforthermal
dominatedsystem,howeversamemaynotbeacceptaleforhydrodominatedsystem.
oThismayrequireschangeinobjectvefunctionitselfand/ormayrequireanewapproach.
Consulatantneedstointuitforsuchpecularities.
Weexpectthemathistheretohandlethedominanceproblem;
Theconsultantwillexploreproblemsandstriveforsolutions
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CommentsfromMr.P.M.S.Pradhan
1 Methodologyfordevelopmentofmodelsforoptimizationofsimplerunoffriver,peakingrun
offriverandstoragepowerprojectsisnotclear.Howtheconsultantwillpreparethe
customizedmodelforeachtypeofpowerprojectbeclearifedintheInceptionReport.
Itiselaborated
2 Aftercompletionofthecustomizationofmodels,theconsultantintendstopreparethe
guidelinesforpowersystemoptimizationofhydropowerprojects.Methodologyfor
preparationofguidelinesforpowersystemoptimizationofdifferenttypesofhydropower
projectsbeclearifedintheInceptionReport.
Itisclarifiedandelaboratednow
3 TrainingonValoraguaandWASPsoftwarebeconductedatthebeginningofthestudysothat
thetrainedpersonnelcouldbeusedforthestudy.Thetrainingonthecustomizedmodels
preparedbytheconsultantbeconductedattheendofthestudy.
Agreed.Wewillstarttrainingourstaffinthebeginning
AnnexA
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CommentsFromS.Rajbhandari
a Thescopeofworksmentionstheneedforoptimizationduringthefeasibilitystudy.Yes,itis
requiredtoascertaintheviabilityoftheproject.However,thedeveloperscarryout
optimizationwithregardtotheirownprojectandnotthesystem.Atthesametime,itwillnot
bewisetoaskthedeveloperstocarryoutoptimizationforthewholesystem.Hence,the
centralbodyresponsibleorthebodyappointedforapprovingshouldcarryoutthesystem
optimizationandaskthedevelopers,privateorpublictocarryouttheoptimizationoftheir
projecttofitintothesystem.
TheConsultantappreciatesthecomment.However,the
proposedprojectintendstoestablishasystemthatcanassigna
truevaluetoacandidateprojectfromtheEnergySystem
perspective.TheConsultantisalsooftheopinionthatthe
systemoptimizationshouldbedonebytheplanningentity.
Optionally,thedevelopersorenergyutilitiescanevaluatetheir
projectsfromsystemprospectiveaswell,whileoptimizingtheir
individualprojects.Becausethisprojectisfocusedon
developingGuidelinesforPowerSystemOptimizationof
HydropowerProjectsandOptimizationofIndividualProjectsor
assigningatrueeconomicvaluetoanycandidateproject,the
GuidelinesshouldnotdependontheGovernmental
arrangements.TheConsultantunderstandsthattheClientwill
takethestakeoftheGuidelinesandmakewiseuseofthe
guidelinestocopewiththelongtermenergypoliciesandassist
thedeveloperstomaketherightchoicesofprojects.
b ThescopeofworkdoesnotmentionanythingabouttheEnergysecurityPlanandstrategy.
Basedonenergystrategy,policiesareformulated.Intheabsenceofenergysecurityplan,
policiesgetdistorted.
TheconsultantisoftheopinionthattheGuidelinesof
optimizationofthesystemandtheoptimizationofindividual
projectsaredoneinmoneytermsunderconstraints.The
guidelinesshouldnotlimitthenumberandkindofconstraints
andthesoftwaretobeaccompaniedshouldbeprovidedwith
theoptionsraisedbytheTAG.
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c ThescopeofworkissilentonthevariousnormsofGridCode.Optimizationmodulesshould
considerperformanceagainstGridCode.
TheTORrequiresthattheGuidelinesdidntconflictwithany
existinglaws,regulations,rules,acts,directivesandotherpolicy
documents.So,itimpliesthattheGuidelinesshouldtakeinto
accounttheGridCodewhiledevelopingtheGuidelinesand
optimizationmodules.(Section4.2.2)
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d Thewordsystemplanninghasbeenusedtodenotethedevelopmentofleastcostgeneration
expansionplan.Systemplanningtoolscoveawidegamutofplanningactivitiessuchas
transmissionanddistributionplanningaswell.Hence,acleardefinitionofthetermneedsto
bemade.
WeagreethattheproposedGuidelinesaretohelpthe
developersandtheplannerstoundertakethebestexpansion
optionandexecutethebestindividualprojectinthelong,
mediumandshortrun.Thewholesystemofgamutcannotbe
modeledwiththeproposedsoftware.Thesystemwilldefinitely
besimplified.ThemainobjectiveoftheGuidelinesistocome
upwiththebestexpansionplanandtruevalueoftheproposed
projectratherthanoperatingthesystem.Fordetailed
operationperhapstheDSSVistaTMwouldbethebest
candidate,whichiscommercialandexpensive,and
implementationofwhichisquestionableinNepalesepower
systemofmerely700MWorless.
e ThescopeofworkspecifiesthecalculationofLRMCateachscenarioandnotateachvoltage
levelsorsystem.LRMCforeachscenarioshallbecalculatedforgeneration,transmissionand
distributionsystemand/oratdifferentvoltagelevels.
Theproposedguidelinesaresupposedtohelptheusersto
identifythebestgenerationexpansionplanbasedonexisting
infrastructure.Atthefeasibilitystudylevelofgeneration
expansion,transmissionanddistributionbecomethe
constraintsortheboundaryconditions.Thevoltagelevelswill
definitelyaffectthesystemperformance,whichwillbeincluded
whilesettingupthemodel.
f TheWASPmodelevaluatesthereliabilityintermsofLOLP.ItwouldbebetterifLOLEisused.
Thereliabilitylevelsfortransmissionanddistributionsystemsarecompletelyignored.Thishas
tobespecifiedinthescopeofworks.
Thestrengthsandtheweaknessesofthemodelwillde
developedinthereportassuggested.
g TheWASPmodelestimatesthegenerationonoptimaldispatchpolicy.Theimprovednew
modelhastheprovisionofmultiplegrouplimitationsforgenerationforasetofpowerplants.
Itisknownhowmanypowerplantscanbeaccommodatedinthiscategory.Thisisofparticular
importancetoNEAwhenIPPgenerationisontakeorpaycondition.Thismightbevalidaswell
forothercaseswheresurplusenergycannotbefullyutilized.
TheConsultantisoftheopinionthattheGuidelinesshouldhelp
theplannerstomaketherightandneutraldecisionsregardless
ofthetypeofpowerplants,whethertheyareNEAsorIPPs
projects.Itisimportanttogiveamonetaryvaluetoacandidate
projectfromthesystemperspective.
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h WASPcanaccommodateamaximumof30yearsofstudyperiod.Thisneedstobetakeninto
consideringwhilefinalizingthemoduleforoptimization.
TheConsultantisawareofthisfactandthelengthofdatafor
30yearsisassumedtobestatisticallystable.
i WASPaccommodatesamaximumof12periodsperyear,oneperiodforeachmonth.The
requirementmayexceedoneperiodforsomeparticularmonthsinourcase.
TheConsultantisawareofthisfact.Atthefeasibilitylevelit
shouldworkverywell.
j Itwillbeworthwhiletoincorporatetheshorttermschedulingofgenerationinthemodule. Itsverygoodcomment.Fordaytodayoperationshortterm
schedulingismandatory.Atthefeasibilitystudyleveltheshort
termschedulingmaynotberequired.
k Asynopsisofothermodelsbeingusedinutilitiesinotherpartsoftheworldneedstobe
providedintheInceptionReport.Thiswillpresentaclearviewofwhatothersaredoing.
TheConsultantwasofopinionthatintroducingothermodels
intotheInceptionReportmayconfusethereadersandmay
serveasanadvertisementofcommercialcompanies.Onthe
otherhand,softwarebusinessisevolvingandtherefore,there
mightbeverylittlebenefitfrommentioningotherstateofthe
artssoftware,whichismuchmoreexpensivethanthefreely
availableVALORAGUAWASPpackages.
l TheInceptionReportdoesnotidentifythedatagapsandotherrequirements.Iwould
appreciateifyoucould,sortof,comewithyourviewsonloadforecastingtechniques,forecast
ofloadcurvesandloaddurationcurves,reliabilityindicestobeadoptedandperformance
limitsandharmonization/synchronizationissuesforthestudyperiod.
TheConsultantappreciatesthiscomment.TheConsultanthas
requestedthedatafromNEAandDHM.Notalldatahavebeen
receivedyet.So,thedatagapsandotherpertinentproblems
relatedtodatawillbeidentifiedastheConsultantsetsupthe
model.
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1 In page iii, correct the organizations of TAG members. Correct according in page 40. Adressed as suggested
2 Page 1: section 1.2: Rewrite first paragraph as MoEn issues licenses for power
projects and DoED only recommends for the licenses after the due diligence of the
applications and other required information as per prevailing law.
Corrected as suggested
3 Page 5: Do we need to train the private developers? Corrected and private developers are removed
4 Numbering of fig. 3.12 in page 9 and 3.1.3 in page 10 is not correct, similarlyin last line
of p-10, Table 3.1.3 does not match the text.
Corrected as needed
5 Source of fig. 3.3.1 is not mentioned. Mentioned proporly
6 P-22, Table 3.4.5: Capacity of Upper Tamkoshi and Spelling of Chameliya is not
correct.
Corrected as needed
7
P-23, 2
nd
last paragraph: Refered Table 7.3.1 is not correct.
Corrected
8 Is the style of reference writing is correct. There are many conventions on reference. Referencing
using number is usual for engineering documents.
However, the Employer may choose any other style as
well.
9 In annex B: does the list of license show the present power situation? Is it necessary? Corrected as needed
10 Fig. 3.9.1 Flow Chart is not complete (page-28). Completed
11 It would be better to mention the COD (Commercial Operation Date) of the exiting
projects in relevant table (table 3.4.1, 3.4.2) and information shall be updated.
Improved as suggested
12 It is suggested to add the under construction project by private sectors also. Improved as suggested
13 In fig. 3.4.1 it would be better to add proposed TL like Solu Corridor, Kabeli Corridor,
Karnali Corridor etc.
Added in the map. The map will be updated to the latest
data during the preparation of the Guidelines.
14 First two bullets have been repeated in last paragraph of section 3.9.2 (Page35) Done
15 Page 40: Delete last sentence in section 4.2.3. Done
16 Page 43: Replace LMRC with LRMC. Done
17 Page 50: meaning of (*,**,***,****)? References to notes
18 Page 52: river network shall be compatible to our hydraulic network with hydropower
plants.
Improved
19 Page 25-27: Samples of WSSP and VALORAGUA shall be provided. Provided in Annex F
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20 It will be better if the consultant presented the list of candidate projects (catagorywise,
with brife salient features) that will be cinsiderad in the optimization process of
guidelines preparation.
Addressed in the last paragraph of scope of works