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04-01-2011, 10:50 PM
Stoney63

Location: motueka nz
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Sun Vs Shade Temp
Today felt like the first real Autumn day (6-19C/42-66F), which got me thinking about sun vs shade
temperature. I had 4 thermometers, 2 in the shade and 2 in the sun. They were all suspended at head height
above grass. At the warmest part of the day the difference was 19C/66F in the shade vs 31C/90F in the sun.
At 5.00 pm it was 18C/64F in the shade vs 20C/69F in the sun.. I had an (accidental) sun reading last summer
that was 50C+/122F, although that was on the ground. I would be interested to know what the difference is
at different latitudes, and if the difference increases/decreases with the seasons.


04-02-2011, 04:30 AM
B1987

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A few years ago in June I put a thermometer on the patio and in full sunlight. It maxed out at 54C, with an air
temp of about 33C.

04-02-2011, 12:39 PM
Stoney63

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A few years ago in June I put a thermometer on the patio and in full sunlight. It maxed out at 54C,
with an air temp of about 33C.
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The thermometers I have only read to 50C, so I don't know if the one on the ground got any hotter than that.
The day was average, so likely in the mid 20's and the thermometer was on grass. I have tunnel houses which
can give 50C readings from Oct-Mar on a sunny day, if I close up the doors,.... something not to be
recommended.

04-02-2011, 03:55 PM
wavehunter007

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I saw a National Geographic documentary a few years ago. They said that on the handful of days that Death
Valley, CA records temps of the 120 122 F (48 50 C) inside a shaded instrument shelterpavement temps
in full sun are often closer to 70 C (160 F)

04-03-2011, 01:10 PM
Stoney63

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I saw a National Geographic documentary a few years ago. They said that on the handful of days
that Death Valley, CA records temps of the 120 122 F (48 50 C) inside a shaded instrument
shelterpavement temps in full sun are often closer to 70 C (160 F)
So perhaps a 20C difference between sun and shades is the upper limit? Death Valley would be a good place
to test that I would think.

04-03-2011, 01:26 PM
Optional Angel

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Hmm I just tried this out right now. With the full sun shining on the pavement I recorded 86 degrees, air
temperature is 81. At head level in the shade I got 74

04-03-2011, 01:27 PM
ben86

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So perhaps a 20C difference between sun and shades is the upper limit? Death Valley would be a
good place to test that I would think.
I've forgotten half the physics behind meteorology I once knew but what about mountainous areas,
particularly in spring with high sun angle yet still low air temps? I've heard of people sunbathing in 0-5C shade
temp, yet the sun still strong enough (and presumably warm enough?) to feel comfortably warm if there's no
wind.

04-03-2011, 08:04 PM
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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ColdCanadian

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depends on what your thermometer is made out of, I reckon. (conductor/insulator, colour of housing etc.)

04-03-2011, 08:42 PM
Stoney63

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Originally Posted by ColdCanadian
depends on what your thermometer is made out of, I reckon. (conductor/insulator, colour of
housing etc.)
Budget white plastic ones, with only two points of contact(with the housing) along the length of the tube.
They are consistent with my pricey digital ones though. I would think these are as good as anything, assuming
there isn't such a thing as a sun thermometer. No difference at present ( both at 19C ) due to the rain.
Yesterdays max difference that I saw was only 11C.

04-04-2011, 03:07 AM
Trimac20

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I think you'd need a proper enclosure to test it out, because other factors like the localised wind etc would
have to be factored in.

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