MONDAY, OC TOBER 2 2 , 2 007

VEDAS

ABSTRACT

The Vedas were compiled around the time of Krishna (3500 B.C.), and even at
that time were hardly understood. Only in recent times have their spiritual
import, like that of the other mystery teachings of the ancient world, begun to
be rediscovered or appreciated even in India. Like the Egyptian teachings they
are veiled, symbolic and subtle and require a special vision to understand and
use properly.

According to Sabd Guru Vedas do not know the extent of God but deal with
three qualities of Maya, Virtue and vice. Guru Angad ponder on the subject in
Raag Sarang;

ਕਥਾ ਕਹਾਣੀ ਬ(ਦ* ਆਣੀ ਪਾਪ- ਪ-.ਨ- ਬੀਚਾਰ- ॥ ਦ( ਦ( ਲ3ਣਾ ਲ3 ਲ3 ਦ(ਣਾ ਨਰਿਕ ਸ-ਰਿਗ ਅਵਤਾਰ ॥ ਉਤਮ ਮਿਧਮ
ਜਾਤ* ਿਜਨਸੀ ਭਰਿਮ ਭਵ3 ਸ.ਸਾਰ- ॥ ਅ.ਿਮ?ਤ ਬਾਣੀ ਤਤ- ਵਖਾਣੀ ਿਗਆਨ ਿਧਆਨ ਿਵਿਚ ਆਈ ॥ ਗ-ਰਮ-ਿਖ ਆਖੀ
ਗ-ਰਮ-ਿਖ ਜਾਤੀ ਸ-ਰਤੀ! ਕਰਿਮ ਿਧਆਈ ॥
Katha Khaani Baydeen Aani Paap Punn Vichaar. Ḏe ḏe laiṇā lai lai ḏeṇā
narak surag avṯār. Uṯam maḏẖim jāṯīʼn jinsī bẖaram bẖavai sansār. Amriṯ
baṇī ṯaṯ vakẖāṇī gi▫ān ḏẖi▫ān vicẖ ā▫ī. Gurmukẖ ākẖī gurmukẖ jāṯī surṯīʼn
karam ḏẖi▫ā▫ī.

The story of sins and virtuous actions has been brought out in the world, by the
Vedas. What is given, they receive, and what is received, they give. They are
reincarnated in heaven and hell. High and low, social class and status - the
world wanders lost in superstition. The Ambrosial Word of Gurbani proclaims
the essence of reality, spiritual wisdom, and meditation. The Guru willed chant
it, realize it, and being intuitively aware, meditate on it.
-----Guru Angad, Sarang Ki Vaar, AGGS, Page, 1243-15
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Sabd Guru describe God as unfathomable, incomprehensible, infinite,

invisible, imperishable, inaccessible, detached, and indefinable. God is the
only Truth. Vedas speak of three Gunas and three modes of Maya, four
doctrines, six sacrificial rituals, and three stages of spiritual progress, hell,
and heaven but nothing about liberation. The Sabd Guru, on the other hand,
describes the 4rth state of Equipoise and bliss. This fourth state is achieved by
meditating on the “True Name”, which is Truth Itself. One can realize and
understand the Truth only if his heart is pure and truthful. It is the Truth alone,
which is the remedy for all our ills. One knows the Truth only; by a pilgrimage
of self and living a life of and becoming one with the Truth.

It is believed that humans did not compose the revered compositions of the
Vedas, which were handed down through generations by the word of mouth
from time immemorial known as “Oral Tradition.” The sages who possessed
the knowledge of Vedas were unique and had extra ordinary qualities and were
known as incarnations. These persons were called Aptas or Rishis and their
words expressing the beginning less and endless mass of infinite and highest
knowledge came to be known as Vedas.

Vedas were written by Rishi Byasa (Vyasa Krishna Dwaipayana) son of fish
(fisher woman Satyavati), when he got self realized.

ਬ?ਹਮ ਕਮਲ ਪ-ਤ- ਮੀਨ ਿਬਆਸਾ ਤਪ- ਤਾਪਨ ਪBਜ ਕਰਾਵ3ਗ॥

C ਜC ਜC ਭਗਤ- ਹCਇ ਸC ਪBਜਹ- ਭਰਮਨ ਭਰਮ- ਚ-ਕਾਵ3ਗC ॥
Braham Kamal Put Meen Byasa Tap Taapan Pooj Kraavego. Jo jo bẖagaṯ
ho▫e so pūjahu bẖarman bẖaram cẖukāvaigo.

Brahma the son of Lotus (who sprang from the navel of Vishnu) and Byasa,
the son of fish (fisher-woman Satyavati); by their austerities are worshipped
Venerate all devotees; there by shall wandering in transmigration and doubts
will be annulled.
-----Guru Ramdas, Raag Kanra, AGGS, Page, 1309-7

Byasa was the compiler of Mahabharata, the founder of Vedanta philosophy

and the editor of Puraanas. He was said to be the twenty-eighth of the Vyasas
or compilers of Vedic knowledge. He was somewhat older than the Avatar
Krishna and his work continued after the death of Krishna. Perhaps he is
symbolic of a whole Vedic school which flourished at that time, as many such
Vedic schools were once prominent all over India and in some places beyond.
All the available religious literature or even incarnated Avatars do not know
the All Knowing Supreme God or Its limits says Guru Arjan In Raag Ramkali;

ਅਵਤਾਰ ਨ ਜਾਨਿਹ ਅ.ਤ- ॥ਪਰਮ(ਸਰ- ਪਾਰਬ?ਹਮ ਬ(ਅ.ਤ- ॥ Avatar Na Janay Ant, Parmaser
Parbraham Beant.

Incarnated beings do not know his limit, The Transcendent Akal Purkh, The
Supreme is infinite.
-----Guru Arjan, Raag Ramkali, AGGS, Page, 894-4

The Vedas deal mainly with the subject of the three modes of Maya (material
nature). The Vedas are the ancient scriptures or revelation (Shruti) of the
Hindu teachings. They manifest the Divine Word in human speech. They
reflect into human language the language of the Gods, the Divine powers that
have created us and which rule over us.

ਨਾਰਦ ਬਚਨ ਿਬਆਸ- ਕਹਤ ਹ3 ਸ-ਕ ਕਉ ਪBਛਹ- ਜਾਈ ॥ ਕਿਹ ਕਬੀਰ ਰਾਮ3 ਰਿਮ ਛBਟਹ- ਨਾਿਹ ਤ ਬBਡ( ਭਾਈ ॥
Narad Bachan Byas Kahat Hai Suk Kaou Poochoh Jaayee. Kahi Kabīr rāmai
ram cẖẖūtahu nāhi ṯa būde bẖā▫ī.

Byasa narrates the sayings of Narada, ask Sukdev about it. Says Kabir,
chanting the God's Name, you shall be saved; otherwise, you shall drown,
brother.
-----Kabir, Raag Maru, AGGS, Page, 1103-4

ਗ-ਣ ਗਾਵ3 ਮ-ਿਨ ਬH੍ਯਾਸ- ਿਜਿਨ ਬ(ਦ ਬH੍ਯਾਕਰਣ ਬੀਚਾਿਰਅ ॥

Gun Gaavai Mun Bhyasu Jin Bayd Bhiakaran Bichaariyaa.

The sage Byasa sings the praises of Guru Nanak. He reflected on Vedic
grammar.
-----Swayeeay Mahalay Pehlay Kay, AGGS, Page, 1390-14

The Vedic knowledge consists of two parts;

a) Knowledge – Vedanta.
b) Works-Social welfare (work of Manu).
Vedas and their philosophies;
There are four Vedas;
Ø The Rig-Veda.
Ø The Yajur-Veda.
Ø The Sama-Veda.
Ø The Atharva-Veda.
In all, the whole Veda is divided into one thousand one hundred and eighty
recensions. Each Veda consists of four parts: the Mantra-Samhitas or hymns,
the Brahmanas or explanations of Mantras or rituals, the Aranyakas, and the
Upanishads. The division of the Vedas into four parts is to suit the four stages
in a man's life.
The Rig-Veda Samhita; its immortal Mantras embody the greatest truths of
existence, and it is perhaps the greatest treasure in all the scriptural literature
of the world. It is divided into twenty-one sections. The Mantra-Samhitas are
hymns in praise of the Vedic God for attaining material prosperity here and
happiness hereafter. They are metrical poems comprising prayers, hymns and
incantations addressed to various deities, both subjective and objective.
(Materialism) With the 33 gods of the Vedas pantheon mythology, including
the Cosmic Trinity of Agni (god of fire), Vayu, (god of air), and Surya (god of
energy or life)... plus Varuna (principal), Indra (war)...
The Yajur-Veda Samhita; is mostly in prose and is meant to be used by the
Adhvaryu, the Yajur-Vedic priest, for superfluous explanations of the rites in
sacrifices to gods, supplementing the Rig-Vedic Mantras. It is again divided
into two parts, the Sukla and the Krishna. The Krishna or the Taittiriya is the
older book and the Sukla or the Vajasaneya is a later revelation to sage
Yajnavalkya from the resplendent Sun-God. It has one hundred and nine
sections. (Sacrifices)
The Sama-Veda Samhita; is mostly borrowed from the Rig-Vedic Samhita,
and is meant to be sung by the Udgatri, (Chants for worship) the Sama Vedic
priest, in sacrifices. It has one thousand sections.
The Atharva-Veda Samhita; is meant to be used by the Brahma, the
Atharva-Vedic priest, to correct the mispronunciations and wrong
performances that may accidentally be committed by the other three priests of
the sacrifice. It is divided in to fifty sections. It deals with Magic spells, healing
the sick. (Sidhis)
The commonalities in Vedanta and Sikh Faith are Chanting of Naam and
development of Virtues and subjugating the vices but the main four
philosophies of the Vedas mentioned above have been discredited by Sikh
Gurus.
ਚਹ- ਜ-ਗ ਮਿਹ ਅ.ਿਮ?ਤ- ਸਾਚੀ ਬਾਣੀ॥ਪBਰ3 ਭਾਿਗ ਹਿਰ ਨਾਿਮ ਸਮਾਣੀ॥ ਿਸਧ ਸਾਿਧਕ ਤਰਸਿਹ ਸਿਭ ਲCਇ ॥ ਪBਰ3 ਭਾਿਗ
ਪਰਾਪਿਤ ਹCਇ ॥ Cẖahu jug mėh amriṯ sācẖī baṇī. Pūrai bẖāg har nām samāṇī.
Siḏẖ sāḏẖik ṯarsėh sabẖ lo▫e. Pūrai bẖāg parāpaṯ ho▫e.
Throughout the four ages, the True Bani of Akal Purkh’s Word is Ambrosial
Nectar. By perfect destiny, one is absorbed in the True Name. The Sidhas, the
seekers and all men long for the Name. It is obtained only by perfect destiny.
-----Guru Amardas, Raag Dhanasari, AGGS, and Page 665-17 & 18
The Vedas are the primary texts of Hinduism. They also had a vast influence
on Buddhism, Jainism, and Sikhism. It is unknown when Vedas were finally
committed to writing, but this probably was at some point after 300 B.C. The
primary portion is the mantra or hymn section (samhita). To this are appended
ritualistic teachings (Brahman) and theological sections (Aranyaka).
Appended at the end are philosophical sections (Upanishads). The hymn
sections are the oldest. The others were added at a later date and each explains
some aspect of the hymns or follows one line that interprets them.

Men of shallow understanding get attracted by the flowery words of the Vedas,
which recommend various fruitive activities for elevation humans to heavenly
planets, cause a nobler birth, bestow power, and so forth. Being desirous of
sense gratification and opulent life, they say that there is nothing more than
this. -----Bhagwat Gita, 42-43, Page, 129

The mythological references in AGGS are only metaphoric. Guru Nanak

describes in Raag Bilawal that The One, Akal Purkh created three gods i.e.
Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva, along with many other gods and goddesses of
different styles, and 3 pronged Maya.

ਿKਤੀਆ ਬ?ਹਮਾ ਿਬਸਨ- ਮਹ(ਸਾ ॥ ਦ(ਵੀ ਦ(ਵ ਉਪਾਏ ਵ(ਸਾ ॥ Ŧariṯīā barahmā bisan mahėsā. Ḏėvī
ḏėv upāė vėsā.
Lunar day 3: God created Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva, the gods, goddesses and
various manifestations of the lights and forms, which cannot be counted. The
One who fashioned them knows their value and evaluates them. Akal Purkh
totally pervades them, whether they are close or far away. -----Guru Nanak,
Raag Bilawal, AGGS, Page, 839-6
The True Master created this Universe from the “Word” with Its Will and
Greatness. The created gods in turn wrote 4 Vedas, 18 Puraanas, and 6
Shastras. Guru Nanak ponder on the subject in various Ragas;

ਸਾਮ ਵ(ਦ- ਿਰਗ- ਜ-ਜਰ- ਅਥਰਬਣ- ॥ ਬ?ਹਮ( ਮ-ਿਖ ਮਾਇਆ ਹ3 K3 ਗ-ਣ ॥ ਤਾ ਕੀ ਕੀਮਿਤ ਕਿਹ ਨ ਸਕ3 ਕC ਿਤਉ ਬCਲ( ਿਜਉ
ਬCਲਾਇਦਾ ॥
Saam Vayd Rig Jujar Atharban,Brahamay Mukh Maya Hai Trai Gun, Taa Ki
Keemat Kahee Na Sakai Ko Teo Bolay Jio Bolaaeydaa.

The Saam Veda, The Rig, The Jujar, The Atharban came out of the mouth of
Brahma and they speak about three Gunas and three qualities of Maya. None
of them can describe Its worth. We speak as It inspires us to speak. -----Guru
Nanak, Raag Maru, AGGS, Page, 1038-1

ਓੜਕ ਓੜਕ ਭਾਿਲ ਥਕ( ਵ(ਦ ਕਹਿਨ ਇਕ ਵਾਤ ॥ ਸਹਸ ਅਠਾਰਹ ਕਹਿਨ ਕਤ(ਬਾ ਅਸ-ਲB ਇਕ- ਧਾਤ- ॥ ਲ(ਖਾ ਹCਇ ਤ
ਿਲਖੀਐ ਲ(ਖ3 ਹCਇ ਿਵਣਾਸ- ॥ ਨਾਨਕ ਵਡਾ ਆਖੀਐ ਆਪ( ਜਾਣ3 ਆਪ- ॥
Orhak Orhak Bhaal Thakay Ved Kahan Ik Vaat. Sahas aṯẖārah kahan kaṯebā
asulū ik ḏẖāṯ. Lekẖā ho▫e ṯa likī▫ai lekẖai ho▫e viṇās. Nānak vadā ākẖī▫ai
āpe jāṇai āp.

The Vedas say that you can search and search for them all, until you grow
weary. The scriptures say that there are 18,000 worlds, but in reality, there is
only One Universe. If you try to write an account of this, you will surely finish
yourself before you finish writing it. O Nanak, call Akal Purkh Great! It Itself
knows Itself. -----Guru Nanak, Japji, AGGS, Page, 5-3

ਚਾਰ( ਵ(ਦ ਹCਏ ਸਿਚਆਰ ॥ ਪੜਿਹ ਗ-ਣਿਹ ਿਤਨQ੍ਹ ਚਾਰ ਵੀਚਾਰ ॥

Charay Vayd Hoey Suchiaar, Parheh Guneyh Tin Chaar Vichaar.

The four Vedas were professed to be true; by reading them one finds four
doctrines.

Question: Which of these doctrines should Sikhs Follow?

Answer;
ਭਾਉ ਭਗਿਤ ਕਿਰ ਨੀਚ- ਸਦਾਏ ॥ ਤਉ ਨਾਨਕ ਮCਖਤ
. ਰ- ਪਾਏ ॥
Bhaa-o Bhagat Kar Neech Sadaa-ay, Ta-o Nanak Mokhantar Paa-ay.

With loving devotional worship, abiding in humility, O, Nanak, salvation is

attained.
-----Guru Nanak, Raag Asa, AGGS, Page, 470-8

Spiritual wisdom is not obtained by merely reading the religious scriptures but
by understanding as to what the teaching therein means:

ਵ(ਦ ਕਹਿਹ ਵਿਖਆਣ ਅ.ਤ- ਨ ਪਾਵਣਾ ॥ਪਿੜਐ ਨਾਹੀ ਭ(ਦ- ਬ-ਿਝਐ ਪਾਵਣਾ ॥
Vayd Kaheh Vakhiaan Unt Na Paavnaa, Parhi-ai Naahee Bhayd Bujhi-ai
Paavnaa.

The Vedas speak and expound on the God, but they do not know Its limits. Not
by studying, but through understanding, is the Akal Purkh's Mystery revealed.
-----Guru Nanak, Var Majh, AGGS, Page, 148-2

ਚਾਰ( ਬ(ਦ ਕਥਿਹ ਆਕਾਰ- ॥ ਤੀਿਨ ਅਵਸਥਾ ਕਹਿਹ ਵਿਖਆਨ- ॥ ਤ-ਰੀਆਵਸਥਾ ਸਿਤਗ-ਰ ਤ( ਹਿਰ ਜਾਨ- ॥
Chaaray Bayd Katheh Aakaar, Teen Aavastha Keheh Vakhian, Turi Aavastha
Satgur Tay Jaan.

The four Vedas speak only of the visible forms expostulating only the three
stages and the fourth stage of equipoise is known through the Guru’s Grace
Alone.
-----Guru Nanak, Raag Gauri, AGGS, Page, 154-11

ਨਾਮ ਕ( ਧਾਰ( ਿਸਿਮ?ਿਤ ਬ(ਦ ਪ-ਰਾਨ ॥ ਨਾਮ ਕ( ਧਾਰ( ਸ-ਨ ਨ ਿਗਆਨ ਿਧਆਨ ॥
Naam Kay Dhaaray Simrit Bayd Puraan, Naam Kay Dhaaray Sunan Gi-aan
Dhi-aan.

The Naam is the Support of the Simritees, the Vedas and the Puraanas.
Through the help of Naam we learn about spiritual wisdom and meditation.
-----Guru Arjan, Raag Gauri, AGGS, Page, 284-12

ਅਸਟ ਦਸੀ ਚਹ- ਭ(ਦ- ਨ ਪਾਇਆ ॥ ਨਾਨਕ ਸਿਤਗ-ਿਰ ਬ?ਹਮ- ਿਦਖਾਇਆ ॥

Asatt Dasee Chahu Bhaydu Na Paiyaa, Nanak Satgur Barahm Dikhaa-i-aa.
The eighteen Puraanas and the four Vedas do not know God’s mystery. O
Nanak, the True Guru has shown me the Master God. -----Guru Nanak, Raag
Asa, AGGS, Page, 355-8

ਬ(ਦ ਕਤ(ਬ ਸ.ਸਾਰ ਹਭਾ ਹB. ਬਾਹਰਾ ॥ ਨਾਨਕ ਕਾ ਪਾਿਤਸਾਹ- ਿਦਸ3 ਜਾਹਰਾ ॥
Bayd Katayb Sansaar Habhaa Hoon Baahraa, Nanak Kaa Paatisaahu Disai
Jaahraa.

God is beyond the world of the Vedas, the Qur’an and other religious Scripture.
The Supreme Emperor of Nanak is immanent and manifest. -----Guru Arjan,
Raag Asa, AGGS, Page, 397-7

ਕਹਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਭਲ( ਅਸਵਾਰਾ ॥ ਬ(ਦ ਕਤ(ਬ ਤ( ਰਹਿਹ ਿਨ ਰਾਰਾ ॥

Kahat Kabir Bhalay Asvaaraa, Bayd Katayb Tay Raheh Niraaraa.

Says Kabir, those who remain detached from the Vedas, the Qur’an and other
religious Scriptures are the best riders. -----Kabir, Raag Gauri, AGGS, Page,
329-12

ਬ(ਦ ਪ-ਰਾਨ ਿਸਿ. ਮ?ਿਤ ਸਭ ਖCਜ( ਕਹB ਨ ਊਬਰਨਾ ॥ ਕਹ- ਕਬੀਰ ਇਉ ਰਾਮਿਹ ਜ.ਪਉ ਮ(ਿਟ ਜਨਮ ਮਰਨਾ ॥
Bayd Puraan Simirit Sabh Khojay Kahoo Na Oobarnaa, Kaho Kabir I-o
Raameh Jampa-o Mayt Janam Marnaa.

I have searched all the Vedas, Puraanas and Simritees, but none of these can
save anyone. Says Kabir, meditate on God, and eliminate birth and death.
-----Bhagat Kabir, Raag Asa, AGGS, Page, 477-2

ਆਪ( ਵ(ਦ ਪ-ਰਾਣ ਸਿਭ ਸਾਸਤ ਆਿਪ ਕਥ3 ਆਿਪ ਭੀਜ3 ॥ਆਪ( ਹੀ ਬਿਹ ਪBਜ( ਕਰਤਾ ਆਿਪ ਪਰਪ.ਚ- ਕਰੀਜ3 ॥
Aapay Vayd Puraan Sabh Saasat Aap Kathai Aap Bheejai, Aapay Hee Bahi
Poojay Kartaa Aap Parpanch Kareejai.

God Itself is the Vedas, the Puraanas and all the Shaastras; It Itself chants
them, and It self is pleased. God Itself sits down to worship, and It self creates
the world.
-----Guru Amardas, Vaar Raag Bhigrha, AGGS, Page, 551-14
ਬ(ਦ ਪੜ( ਪਿੜ ਬ?ਹਮ( ਹਾਰ( ਇਕ- ਿਤਲ- ਨਹੀ ਕੀਮਿਤ ਪਾਈ ॥ ਸਾਿਧਕ ਿਸਧ ਿਫਰਿਹ ਿਬਲਲਾਤ( ਤ( ਭੀ ਮCਹ( ਮਾਈ ॥
Bayd Parhay Parh Brahmay Haaray Ik Til Nahin Keemat Paayee, SaaDhik
SiDh Fireh Billaatay Tay Bhee Mohay Maa-ee.

Even gods like Brahma, through their knowledge of Vedas have failed to know
Your greatness or secrets. The seekers and Siddhas wander around bewailing;
they too are enticed by Maya.
-----Guru Arjan, Raag Suhi, AGGS, Page, 747-11

੍ ਪਿੜਆ ਮ-ਕਿਤ ਨ ਹCਈ ॥ ਏਕ- ਅਖਰ- ਜC ਗ-ਰਮ-ਿਖ ਜਾਪ3 ਿਤਸ ਕੀ ਿਨ ਰਮਲ

ਬ(ਦ ਕਤ(ਬ ਿਸਿਮ?ਿਤ ਸਿਭ ਸਾਸਤ ਇਨQਹ
ਸCਈ ॥
Bayd Katayb Simirit Sabh Saasat Inh Parhiyaa Mukat Na Hoey, Ayk aAhar
Jo Gurmukh Japai Tis Kee Nirmal So-ee.

One may read all the books of the Vedas, the Quran and other religious
Scriptures, the Simritees and the Shaastras, but they will not bring liberation.
One, who, as Guru willed, chants the One Word, acquires a spotlessly pure
reputation. -----Guru Arjan, Raag Suhi, AGGS, Page, 747-18

ਸਾਸਤ ਬ(ਦ ਪ-ਰਾਣ ਪ-ਕਾਰਿਹ ਧਰਮ- ਕਰਹ- ਖਟ- ਕਰਮ ਿUੜਈਆ ॥ਮਨਮ-ਖ ਪਾਖ.ਿਡ ਭਰਿਮ ਿਵਗBਤ( ਲCਭ ਲਹਿਰ ਨਾਵ
ਭਾਿਰ ਬ-ਡਈਆ ॥
Saasat Bayd Puraan Pukaareh Dharam Karoh Khat Karam Dhrirrheyaa,
Manmukh Pakhand Bharam Vigootay Lobh Lahar Naav Bhaar Buda-ee-aa.

The Shaastras, the Vedas and the Puraanas advise righteous actions, and the
performance of the six religious rituals. The hypocritical, self-willed are ruined
by doubt; in the waves of greed, their boat is heavily loaded, and it sinks. -----
Guru Ramdas, Raag Bilawal, AGGS, Page, 834-8

ਬ(ਦ ਕਤ(ਬੀ ਭ(ਦ- ਨ ਜਾਤਾ॥ਨਾ ਿਤਸ- ਮਾਤ ਿਪਤਾ ਸ-ਤ ਭ?ਾਤਾ॥ਸਗਲ( ਸ3ਲ ਉਪਾਇ ਸਮਾਏ ਅਲਖ-ਨ ਲਖਣਾ ਜਾਈ ਹ(॥
Bayd Kataybi Bhayd Na Jata, Na Tis Maat Pita Sut Bhraata, Sglay Sil Uaa-ay
Smaa-ay Aakh N Lkh-naa Ja-ee Hy.

The Vedas, Quran and other religious Scriptures do not know the mystery of
God. It has no mother, father, child or brother. God created all the mountains,
and levels them again; the Unseen Master cannot be seen. -----Guru Nanak,
Raag Maru, AGGS, Page, 1021-16

ਪਡੀਆ ਕਵਨ ਕ-ਮਿਤ ਤ-ਮ ਲਾਗ( ॥ ਬBਡਹ-ਗ( ਪਰਵਾਰ ਸਕਲ ਿਸਉ ਰਾਮ- ਨ ਜਪਹ- ਅਭਾਗ( ॥ ਬ(ਦ ਪ-ਰਾਨ ਪੜ( ਕਾ
ਿਕਆ ਗ-ਨ- ਖਰ ਚ.ਦਨ ਜਸ ਭਾਰਾ ॥
Padee-aa Kavan Kumat Tum Laagay, Bood-Hugay Parvaar Sakal Si-o Raam
Na Japahu Abhaagay, Bayd Puraan Parhay Ka Kia Gun Khar Chandan Jas
Bhaaraa.

O Pundit, O religious scholar, in what foul thoughts are you engaged? You
shall be drowned, along with your family, if you do not meditate on the God,
you unfortunate person. What is the use of reading the Vedas and the
Puraanas? It is like loading a donkey with sandalwood.
-----Bhagat Kabir, Raag Maru, AGGS, Page, 1102-19

ਬ(ਦ- ਪ-ਕਾਰ( ਪ-.ਨ- ਪਾਪ- ਸ-ਰਗ ਨਰਕ ਕਾ ਬੀਉ ॥ ਜC ਬੀਜ3 ਸC ਉਗਵ3 ਖVਦਾ ਜਾਣ3 ਜੀਉ ॥
Bayd Pukaaray Punn Paap Surg Narak Kaa Beeou, Jo Beejai So Ugvai
KhaaNdaa Jaanai Jee-o.

The Vedas proclaim that vices and virtues are the seeds of heaven and hell.
Whatever is planted shall grow. The soul eats the fruits of its actions, and
understands.
-----Guru Nanak, Sarang Ki Vaar, AGGS, Page, 1243-18

ਚਾਰ( ਕ-.ਡਾ ਜ( ਭਵਿਹ ਬ(ਦ ਪੜਿਹ ਜ-ਗ ਚਾਿਰ ॥ ਨਾਨਕ ਸਾਚਾ ਭ(ਟ3 ਹਿਰ ਮਿਨ ਵਸ3 ਪਾਵਿਹ ਮCਖ ਦ-ਆਰ ॥
Chaaray Kundaa Jay Bhaveh Bayd Parheh Jug Chaar, Nanak Saacha Bhetai
Har Man Vasai Paaveh Mokh Duaar.

You may wander in all four directions, and read the Vedas throughout the four
ages.
O’ Nanak, if you meet with the True Guru, the Akal Purkh shall come to dwell
within your mind, and you shall find the door of salvation.
-----Guru Amardas, Sloke Vaaran To Vadheek, AGGS, Page, 1421-3

ਕਬੀਰ ਮਾਇ ਮB.ਡਉ ਿਤਹ ਗ-ਰB ਕੀ ਜਾ ਤ( ਭਰਮ- ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥ਆਪ ਡ-ਬ( ਚਹ- ਬ(ਦ ਮਿਹ ਚ(ਲ( ਦੀਏ ਬਹਾਇ ॥
Kabir maa-ay moonda-o tih guroo kee jaa tay bharam na jaa-ay.Aap Dubay
Choh Bayd Meh Chaylay Deeay Bahaaay.
Kabir, shave the mother of that guru, who does not take away one's doubt.He
himself is drowning in the four Vedas; he drowns his disciples as well.
-----Sloke Kabir, 104, AGGS, Page, .1369 & 70

ਕCਈ ਪੜ3 ਬ(ਦ ਕCਈ ਕਤ(ਬ ॥ ਕCਈ ਓਢ3 ਨੀਲ ਕCਈ ਸ-ਪਦ
( ॥ ਕCਈ ਕਹ3 ਤ-ਰਕ- ਕCਈ ਕਹ3 ਿਹ.ਦB ॥ ਕCਈ ਬਾਛ3 ਿਭਸਤ-
ਕCਈ ਸ-ਰਿਗ.ਦB ॥ਕਹ- ਨਾਨਕ ਿਜਿਨ ਹ-ਕਮ- ਪਛਾਤਾ ॥Xਭ ਸਾਿਹਬ ਕਾ ਿਤਿਨ ਭ(ਦ- ਜਾਤਾ ॥
Koyee Parhai Bayd Koyee Katayb, Koyee Odhai Neel Koyee Supayd,Koyee
Kahay Turak Koyee Kahai Hindu, Koyee Baachhai Bhist Koyee
Surgindoo,Kaho Nanak Jin Hukam Pachaataa, Prabh Sahib Ka Tin Bhayd
Jataa.

Some read Vedas, and some Qur’an, Some wear blue robes, and some wear
white, Some call themselves Muslim, and some call themselves Hindus, Some
yearn for paradise and others for heaven. Says Nanak, one who realizes the
Command of God’s Will, knows the secrets of his Akal Purkh and Master. -----
Guru Arjan, Raag Ramkali, AGGS, Page, 885

Conclusion:

The four Vedas written by sage Vyasa illustrate story of Narda and other Hindu
gods. Vedas speak of three Gunas and three modes of Maya, four doctrines, six
sacrificial rituals, and three stages of spiritual progress, hell, and heaven but
nothing of liberation. Vedas do not know about the limit of the God. The fourth
stage of Sahaj for individual liberation is only through Naam in this age of
Kal, as explained and stressed by Sabd Guru.

ਖਟ- ਕਰਮਾ ਅਰ- ਆਸਣ- ਧCਤੀ ॥ ਭਾਗਿਠ ਿਗ?ਿਹ ਪੜ3 ਿਨ ਤ ਪCਥੀ ॥ ਮਾਲਾ ਫ(ਰ3 ਮ.ਗ3 ਿਬਭBਤ ॥ ਇਹ ਿਬਿਧ ਕCਇ ਨ
ਤਿਰਓ ਮੀਤ ॥ ਸC ਪ.ਿਡਤ- ਗ-ਰ ਸਬਦ- ਕਮਾਇ ॥ K3 ਗ-ਣ ਕੀ ਓਸ- ਉਤਰੀ ਮਾਇ ॥ ਚਤ-ਰ ਬ(ਦ ਪBਰਨ ਹਿਰ ਨਾਇ ॥
ਨਾਨਕ ਿਤਸ ਕੀ ਸਰਣੀ ਪਾਇ ॥
Kẖat karmā ar āsaṇ ḏẖoṯī. Bẖāgaṯẖ garihi paṛai niṯ pothī. Mālā ferai mangai
bibẖūṯ. Ih biḏẖ ko▫e na ṯari▫o mīṯ. So pandiṯ gur sabaḏ kamā▫e.Trai Gun Ki
Ous Outree Maey, Chatur Bayd Pooran Har Naey, Nanak Tis Ki Sarni Paey.

You perform the six religious rituals, and sit wearing your loin-cloth. In the
homes of the wealthy, you read the prayer book. You chant on your mala, and
beg for money. No one has ever been saved in this way, friend. He alone is a
Pundit, who lives the Word of the Guru's Sabd.
Maya, of the three qualities, leaves him. The four Vedas are completely
contained within the God's Name. Nanak seeks Its Sanctuary. -----Guru Arjan,
Raag Ramkali, AGGS, Page, 888

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