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The propert ies of s pac e hav e been pos t ulat ed by many , f rom anc ient V edic philos ophy , E as t ern
My s t ic s , v arious anc ient c iv iliz at ions t hroughout human his t ory all t he way t o Des c art es ,
E ins t ein, Newt on and more.
A gain, if y ou obs erv ed t he c ompos it ion of an at om wit h a mic ros c ope, y ou would s ee a s mall,
inv is ible t ornado lik e v ort ex , wit h a number of inf init ely s mall energy v ort ic es c alled quark s and
phot ons . Thes e are what mak e up t he s t ruc t ure of t he at om. A s y ou f oc us ed in c los er and
c los er on t he s t ruc t ure of t he at om, y ou would s ee not hing, y ou would obs erv e a phy s ic al v oid.
The at om has no phy s ic al s t ruc t ure, we hav e no phy s ic al s t ruc t ure, phy s ic al t hings really dont
hav e any phy s ic al s t ruc t ure. A t oms are made out of inv is ible energy , not t angible mat t er.
A nd t hey allowed A pollonius t o as k ques t ions ; and he as k ed t hem of what t hey t hought t he
c os mos was c ompos ed; but t hey replied; Of element s . A re t here t hen f our? he as k ed. Not
f our, s aid Larc has , but f iv e. A nd how c an t here be a f if t h, s aid A pollonius , alongs ide of
wat er and air and eart h and f ire? There is t he et her, replied t he ot her, whic h we mus t regard
as t he s t uf f of whic h gods are made; f or jus t as all mort al c reat ures inhale t he wire, s o do
immort al and div ine nat ures inhale t he et her. A m I , s aid A ppollonius , t o regard t he univ ers e
as a liv ing c reat ure? Y es , s aid t he ot her.
~ The Lif e of A pollonius of Ty ana, P hilos t rat us , 220A D
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Tesl a and Anci ent V edi c P hi l osophy and the P roperti es of S pace
The V edas are a group of writ ings t hat c ons is t of hy mns , pray ers , my t hs , his t oric al ac c ount ing,
s c ienc e and t he nat ure of realit y . They dat e bac k at leas t 5000 y ears , and are not s o dif f erent
f rom ot her anc ient t ex t s t hat div e int o t he s ame mat t ers f rom all ac ros s t he globe. The
language us ed is S ans k rit and it s origins are unk nown.
Wev e s een a v ery int eres t ing t rend (es pec ially wit hin t he pas t dec ade)
of modern-day s c ienc e c at c hing up t o an anc ient unders t anding about
t he t rue nat ure of realit y , it s mak e-up, how it f unc t ions and how we
c an work wit h it t o bring about c hange on our planet . For any body t o
label merging of s pirit ualit y and s c ienc e as ps eudos c ienc e means t hey
hav e not properly inv es t igat ed it . S pirit ual c onc ept s of our anc ient
world are direc t ly int ert wined wit h modern-day s c ienc e, more s o
quant um phy s ic s , and Nik ola Tes la was well aware of t his .
Tes la unders t ood t he great power of Zero P oint Field, A k as ha or E t her:
t he power of s pac e bet ween t he elec t rons and t he nuc leus . V iv ek andas ef f ec t on Tes la was s o
great t hat he bec ame v eget arian, bec ame c elibat e and s t art ed us ing S ans k rit words . He died
wit h his s c alar energy s c ienc e in his head, bec aus e he did NOT want t he US milit ary t o us e it
t o des t roy t he planet . No wonder he was denied t he Nobel priz e and ev ent ually k illed.
K nowledge is power, and t here are many people t hat want all t he power f or t hems elv es . Tes la
want ed t o giv e power t o ev ery one f or f ree! He was ac t ually t he f irs t pers on t o f igure out how t o
mak e radio c ommunic at ion pos s ible ac ros s t he A t lant ic oc ean. B ut bec aus e he want ed t o mak e
t his abilit y f ree f or ot hers his f unding was s t opped and t he c redit was lat er giv en t o s omeone
els e t hat play ed t he power game bet t er t han him
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s c ienc e he was work ing on us ing s ans k rit worlds lik e ak as ha, and prana t o des c ribe t he
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Nik ola Tes la had c orrelat ions wit h S wami V iv ek ananda (1863-1902), who was one of t he mos t
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Hindu philos ophy , t he t erm originally ref erred t o t he upanis hads , a c ollec t ion of philos ophic al
t ex t s in Hinduis m) and Y oga. He was t he c hief dis c iple of Ramak ris hna P aramahams a and t he
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s pac e, t he ak as ha or luminif erous et her, whic h is ac t ed upon by t he lif e giv ing P rana or c reat iv e
f orc e, c alling int o ex is t enc e, in nev er-ending c y c les all t hings and phenomena.
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mat t er and henc e t he propert ies of aak aas h are not f ound in t he mat erial propert ies t hat are in a
s ens e relat iv e. The aak aas h is t he et ernally ex is t ent , s uperf luid realit y , f or whic h c reat ion and
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V iv ek ananda wrot e a lat er t o Tes la in t he lat e

1800s s t at ing:
Mr. Tes la t hink s he c an demons t rat e
mat hemat ic ally t hat f orc e and mat t er are
reduc ible t o pot ent ial energy . I am t o go and s ee
him nex t week t o get t his new mat hemat ic al
demons t rat ion. I n t hat c as e t he V edant ic
c os mology will be plac ed on t he s ures t of
f oundat ions . I am work ing a good deal now upon
t he c os mology and es c hat ology of t he V edant a.
I c learly s ee t heir perf ec t union wit h modern
s c ienc e, and t he eluc idat ion of t he one will be
f ollowed by t hat of t he ot her.
~ S wami V iv ek ananda (Complet e Work s , V OL.
V , Fif t h E dit ion, 1347, p. 77) (1)
Tes la began us ing t he S ans k rit words af t er
meet ing wit h S wami, and af t er s t udy ing t he
E as t ern v iew of t he t rue nat ure of realit y , about t he mec hanis ms t hat driv e t he mat erial world.
E v ent ually , it led him t o t he bas is f or t he wireles s t rans mis s ion of elec t ric al power, what is
k nown as t he Tes la Coil Trans f ormer. During t his y ear he made t he f ollowing c omment s during a
s peec h bef ore t he A meric an I ns t it ut e of E lec t ric al E ngineers (giv en bef ore he f amiliariz ed
hims elf wit h t he t he V edic s inc ere of t he eas t er nat ions of I ndia, Tibet , and Nepal):
E re many generat ions pas s , our mac hinery will be driv en by a power obt ainable at any point in
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t he univ ers e. This idea is not nov elWe f ind it in t he delight f ul my t h of A nt heus , who deriv es
power f rom t he eart h; we f ind it among s ubt le s pec ulat ions of one of y our s plendid
mat hemat ic ians . Throughout s pac e t here is energy . I s t his energy s t at ic , or k inet ic ? I f s t at ic
our hopes are in v ain; if k inet ic and t his we k now it is , f or c ert ain t hen it is a mere ques t ion
of t ime when men will s uc c eed in at t ac hing t heir mac hinery t o t he v ery wheel work of nat ure.
~ Nik ola Tes la
S wami V iv ek ananda was hopef ul t hat Tes la would be able t o s how t hat what we c all mat t er is
s imply pot ent ial energy bec aus e t hat would rec onc ile t he t eac hings of t he V edas wit h modern
s c ienc e. The S wami realiz ed t hat in t hat c as e, t he V edant ic c os mology (would) be plac ed
on t he s ures t of f oundat ions . Tes la unders t ood t he S ans k rit t erminology and philos ophy and
f ound t hat it was a good means t o des c ribe t he phy s ic al mec hanis ms of t he univ ers e as s een
t hrough his ey es . I t would behoov e t hos e who would at t empt t o unders t and t he s c ienc e behind
t he inv ent ions of Nik ola Tes la t o s t udy S ans k rit and V edic philos ophy .
~ Toby Grot z , P res ident , Wireles s E ngineering
A pparent ly , Tes la was unable t o s how t he ident it y of energy and mat t er, t his did not c ome unt il
A lbert E ins t ein publis hed his paper on relat iv it y , whic h was k nown in t he E as t f or t he las t 5000
y ears .
A ll t he powers in t he univ ers e are already ours . I t is we who hav e put our hands bef ore our
ey es and c ry t hat it is dark .
~ S wami V iv ek ananda
Tes las v is ion of t he wireles s t rans mis s ion of elec t ric it y and f ree energy has been pos t poned
f or almos t one hundred y ears now.
Bohr, Hei senberg and S chrdi nger regul ary read V edi c texts
Heis enberg s t at ed: Quant um t heory will not look ridic ulous t o people who hav e read V edant a.
V edant a is t he c onc lus ion of V edic t hought .
Furt hermore, Frit jof Capra, who was int erv iewed by Renee Weber in t he book The Holographic
P aradigm (page 217-218), has s t at ed t hat S c hrdinger, in s peak ing about Heis enberg, has s aid:
I had s ev eral dis c us s ions wit h Heis enberg. I liv ed in E ngland t hen [ c irc a 1972] , and I v is it ed
him s ev eral t imes in Munic h and s howed him t he whole manus c ript c hapt er by c hapt er. He was
v ery int eres t ed and v ery open, and he t old me s omet hing t hat I t hink is not k nown public ly
bec aus e he nev er publis hed it . He s aid t hat he was well aware of t hes e parallels . While he was
work ing on quant um t heory he went t o I ndia t o lec t ure and was a gues t of Tagore. He t alk ed a
lot wit h Tagore about I ndian philos ophy . Heis enberg t old me t hat t hes e t alk s had helped him a
lot wit h his work in phy s ic s , bec aus e t hey s howed him t hat all t hes e new ideas in quant um
phy s ic s were in f ac t not all t hat c raz y . He realiz ed t here was , in f ac t , a whole c ult ure t hat
s ubs c ribed t o v ery s imilar ideas . Heis enberg s aid t hat t his was a great help f or him.
The f amous Danis h phy s ic is t and Nobel P riz e winner, Laureat e Niels
B ohr (1885-1962) (pic t ured right ), was a f ollower of t he V edas . He
s aid, I go int o t he Upanis hads t o as k ques t ions . B ot h B ohr and
S c hrdinger, t he f ounders of quant um phy s ic s , were av id readers of
t he V edic t ex t s and obs erv ed t hat t heir ex periment s in quant um
phy s ic s were c ons is t ent wit h what t hey had read in t he V edas .
Niels B ohr got t he ball rolling around 1900 by ex plaining why at oms
emit and abs orb elec t romagnet ic radiat ion only at c ert ain
f requenc ies .
Niels Bohr , image fr om

Wik ipedia
Then, in t he 1920s E rwin S c hrdinger (1887-1961), an A us t rian-I ris h

phy s ic is t (pic t ured below), who won t he Nobel priz e, c ame up wit h
his f amous wav e equat ion t hat predic t s how t he Quant um
Mec hanic al wav e f unc t ion c hanges wit h t ime. Wav e f unc t ions are us ed in Quant um Mec hanic s
t o det ermine how part ic les mov e and int erac t wit h t ime.
S c hrdinger wrot e in his book Meine Welt ans ic ht :
Er win Sc hr dinger , image
This lif e of y ours whic h y ou are liv ing is not merely a piec e of t his
ent ire ex is t enc e, but in a c ert ain s ens e t he whole; only t his whole is
not s o c ons t it ut ed t hat it c an be s urv ey ed in one s ingle glanc e.
This , as we k now, is what t he B rahmins [ wis e men or pries t s in t he
V edic t radit ion] ex pres s in t hat s ac red, my s t ic f ormula whic h is y et
really s o s imple and s o c lear; t at t v am as i, t his is y ou. Or, again, in
s uc h words as I am in t he eas t and t he wes t , I am abov e and
below, I am t his ent ire world.
fr om Wik ipedia
This is a ref erenc e t o t he Mundak a Upanis had mant ra (abov e) in

whic h t he V edic unders t anding of t he c onnec t iv it y of liv ing ent it ies
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is put f orward t o help t he B hak t a (prac t it ioner of y oga) t o unders t and t he dif f erenc e bet ween t he
body and t he liv ing ent it y . How t he real nat ure of t he liv ing ent it y is realiz ed only in union wit h
t he s ourc e, t he s upreme being (B rahman/ K ris hna) t hrough a plat f orm of t rans c endent al div ine
lov ing s erv ic e.
S c hrdinger, in s peak ing of a univ ers e in whic h part ic les are repres ent ed by wav e f unc t ions ,
s aid: The unit y and c ont inuit y of V edant a are ref lec t ed in t he unit y and c ont inuit y of wav e
mec hanic s . This is ent irely c ons is t ent wit h t he V edant a c onc ept of A ll in One.
V edant a and gnos t ic is m are belief s lik ely t o appeal t o a mat hemat ic al phy s ic is t , a brilliant only
c hild, t empt ed on oc c as ion by int ellec t ual pride. S uc h f ac t ors may help t o ex plain why
S c hrdinger bec ame a believ er in V edant a, but t hey do not det rac t f rom t he import anc e of his
belief as a f oundat ion f or his lif e and work . I t would be s implis t ic t o s ugges t t hat t here is a
direc t c aus al link bet ween his religious belief s and his dis c ov eries in t heoret ic al phy s ic s , y et
t he unit y and c ont inuit y of V edant a are ref lec t ed in t he unit y and c ont inuit y of wav e mec hanic s .
I n 1925, t he world v iew of phy s ic s was a model of t he univ ers e as a great mac hine c ompos ed of
s eparable int erac t ing mat erial part ic les , During t he nex t f ew y ears , S c hrdinger and Heis enberg
and t heir f ollowers c reat ed a univ ers e bas ed on s uperimpos ed ins eparable wav es of probabilit y
amplit udes . This new v iew would be ent irely c ons is t ent wit h t he v edant ic c onc ept of t he A ll in
One (S c hrdinger: Lif e and Thought (Meine Welt ans ic ht ), p. 173).
A c c ording t o Walt er J . Moore on page 125 of his biographic al work , A Lif e of E rwin S c hrdinger,
S c hrdinger f ound V edant a t eac hes t hat c ons c ious nes s is s ingular, all happenings are play ed
out in one univ ers al c ons c ious nes s and t here is no mult iplic it y of s elv es The s t ages of human
dev elopment are t o s t riv e f or P os s es s ion (A rt ha), K nowledge (Dharma), A bilit y (K ama), B eing
(Mok s ha) Nirv ana is a s t at e of pure blis s f ul k nowledge. I t has not hing t o do wit h indiv idual.
The ego or it s s eparat ion is an illus ion. The goal of man is t o pres erv e his K arma and t o
dev elop it f urt her when man dies his k arma liv es and c reat es f or it s elf anot her c arrier.
S c hrdinger did not believ e t hat it is pos s ible t o demons t rat e t he unit y of c ons c ious nes s by
logic al argument s . One mus t mak e an imaginat iv e leap guided by c ommunion wit h nat ure and
t he pers uas ion of analogies . He unders t ood t he nonmat erial et ernal nat ure of t he c ons c ious s elf
and how t he A t man is int imat ely c onnec t ed t o t he s upreme.
I n t he 1920s quant um mec hanic s was c reat ed by t he t hree great minds : Heis enberg, B ohr and
S c hrdinger, who all read f rom and great ly res pec t ed t he V edas . They elaborat ed upon t hes e
anc ient book s of wis dom in t heir own language and wit h modern mat hemat ic al f ormulas in order
t o t ry t o unders t and t he ideas t hat are t o be f ound t hroughout t he V edas , ref erred t o in t he
anc ient S ans k rit as B rahman, P aramat ma, A k as ha and A t man. A s S c hrdinger s aid,
s ome blood t rans f us ion f rom t he E as t t o t he Wes t t o s av e Wes t ern s c ienc e f rom s pirit ual
anemia. V edic t ex t s s uc h as t he B ahgav ad-git a and t he Upanis hads were c ollec t iv ely
c ons idered t he mos t inf luent ial book s ev er writ t en by eminent people lik e Thoreau, K ant ,
S c hopenhauer, S c hrdinger, Werner Heis enberg, Tes la, and E ins t ein, among ot hers .
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James Benton
3 months ago
Interesting viewpoint. You've got a typo in the headline though. Anyway, thanks for the
article.
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Karin Lease > James Benton
a month ago
I can't find the typo and I'm always the one that DOES! Is "the" extraneous?
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pasug
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3 months ago
Fantastic article....what is called string theory we hindus call it as nadha brahmmam....shiva

is called as nadha Brahman....dance of Shiva creates all that is.....shiva does cosmic
dance....from Shivas dumru time started....Shivas dumru udukkai itself looks like hour
glass....Shiva started time....nadha brahmmam is ohm sound.....om became amen and
aameen in christian and Islam.....om is pranava mantram....first om was there from om all
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aameen in christian and Islam.....om is pranava mantram....first om was there from om all
universe created....it is ironical that om primordial sound....sound of universe found place in
electricity as ohm.....ohm is unit measurement of resistance of a conductor.....aanmeeka
vadhi believers faithful people are full copper conductors....non believers.....nasthik people
are full non conductors....resistors.....with faith belief India is free from much
tsunamis.....quakes....volcanoes....Indian climate is also good because of Indian people
follow dharma....
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David Storoy
3 months ago
You welcome;)
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Aurora
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3 months ago
Wonderful article! Thank you!

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V.S. Gopalakrishnan
3 months ago
Interesting piece! My Master's in Physics was in 1960 but Bohr, Schrodinger and
Heisenberg were part of our studies. I think that it has become a fashion to link
Veda/Vedanta to modern Physics and that is not entirely valid or correct. The famous
scientists named earlier were obviously trying to understand Hinduism and Vedic/Vedantic
thoughts. But Vedanta is very complex. Only big Gnanis can understand Vedanta. Main
Vedas have little philosophy but Vedanta (Upanishads) has it. Thank God, none is linking
chemistry, modern biology, and other sciences to Vedanta!
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drrcyashroy > V.S. Gopalakrishnan
3 months ago
Existence of chemistry is rooted in physics. Sharing of electrons (bonding) and

redistribution of electronic charge (electrostatic attraction) link physical atoms to
give birth to chemistry. Biology has biophysical and biochemical foundations. All
these forms of existence are nothing but expressions of matter, energy and their
interactions. Summary of Vedanta in Bhagvad Gita reveals that the whole universe
arises from a point (Shaligram/matter) of brilliance (energy) of infinite suns, shining
at once - modern science is already looking for a phenomenon of such a description
under the name "BIG BANG".
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John Bray > V.S. Gopalakrishnan
2 months ago
Check out quantum biology, especially the work by Roger Penrose and Stuart
Hammeroff.
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Ashutosh Pandey
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3 months ago
first of all great article. Most of the people know that there are 5 elements as mentioned
above, all humans and animals are all made up of these 5 elements i.e,
earth,water,fire,air,ether. But we humans are special than animals so we have two more
elements i.e, GURU element and the PARAM(supreme) element. the science of the west is
advancing but it will take them a long time to know what the Siddhas(enlightened spiritual
masters,gurus) knew way back. West talked about junk DNA with so much confidence
until recently when they are realizing that it may not be junk afterall,but not only our Siddha
masters knew of this but they have access to all these DNAs. West will realize soon that
the ideas behind science has spiritual base. Then the question arise how to use this
science for our use in day today life and for that they will look towards India once again and
India will not disappoint. But west must look towards inside this time than looking outside for
knowledge,they must learn to meditate. They must learn to meditate on themselves, to
unfold themselves. For they cannot get the wisdom of Upanishad just by reading it,
because the book and reader are two different things in the readers head,the yog or the
union will not happen. Thats why my Siddha guru Avdhoot Baba Shivananda always says,"
you be the book and you be the reader only then the yog will happen", means you meditate
on yourself and when you'll reach your higher bodies by burning your karmas in between
then the wisdom of Upanishad and Vedas and Puranas will unfold which are already
present in your higher bodies.
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Awanish
3 months ago
Good to see the barriers vanishing and old ideas being accepted without any inhibitions!
Lets call all the vedantic knowledge 'universal' as it was not created for a certains sect or
creed of people.
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sudha sathaye
3 months ago
very interesting article thanks a lot! sudha sathaye

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Dave
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17 hours ago
Swami Vivekananda never wrote a letter directly to Mr. Tesla. The letter your referring to
was sent to E.T. Sturdy February 13th, 1896. Other than this there is no record of a letter
directly to Mr. Tesla or anything about their meeting. You left out most of this important
letter?
"There were besides Madame M. Morrel, the celebrated singer, also the great electrician
Tesla. Madame is a very scholarly lady and has studied up the metaphysics a good deal.
M. Morrel was being interested, but Mr. Tesla was charmed to hear about the Vedantic
Prna and ksha and the Kalpas, which according to him are the only theories modern
science can entertain. Now both Akasha and Prana again are produced from the cosmic
Mahat, the Universal Mind, the Brahm or Ishvara. Mr. Tesla thinks he can demonstrate
mathematically that force and matter are reducible to potential energy. I am to go and see
him next week, to get this new mathematical demonstration.
In that case, the Vedantic cosmology will be placed on the surest of foundations. I am
working a good deal now upon the cosmology and eschatology (That is, doctrine of the last
things death, judgement, etc.) of the Vedanta. I clearly see their perfect unison with
modern science, and the elucidation of the one will be followed by that of the other. I intend
to write a book later on in the form of questions and answers. (This was never done. But
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Freedom Beyond Mind
2 months ago
The Zero Point field...indeed, that is Brahman!

Vadim
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2 months ago
Everything influences everything. This has influenced those that read it--one way or
another. Opinions built upon opinions...thus is belief made and shared.
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drrcyashroy
3 months ago
This universe is a quantized version of ONE Consciousness. More

http://rakeshyashroy.blogspot....
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Mit Jones
3 months ago
I think it was Schrdinger who said a physicist is an atoms way of looking at itself.
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Jon Costerj > Mit Jones
3 months ago
The Quantum particles appear to be affected by the observer because the observer
has far more energy than the Quantum particle. Which is why we investigate the
particle with a particle.
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David Storoy > Mit Jones
3 months ago
It was Niels Bohr;)
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Mit Jones > David Storoy
3 months ago
thank you,
I enjoyed your article,
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I enjoyed your article,
mit
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David Storoy > Mit Jones
3 months ago
Thanks alot:)

Jon Costerj
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3 months ago
Kali is Shivas shed skin from destruction comes creation why do leaves fall from trees in
the Autumn?
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Ashutosh Pandey
3 months ago
the wisdom of Vedas and Upanishads can never be known completely because its in the
coded language which can never be understood unless you have a self-realized guru who
initiates you into siddh-kundalini yog meditation. With siddh-kundalini yog when you go on
practicing it burning those karmas which are between you and your wisdom you'll realize
everything is so simple with your ever increasing non-dualistic eye. If you take all the
atoms in the human body and add up you know how much percent of atoms you'll get, only
0.001% the rest 99.9% is empty space.But science may take a long time to figure out that
the empty space is not exactly empty on the otherhand its overcrowded with karmas which
Shivyog's siddh-kundalini yog explains beforehand. Swami Vivekanand, Paramhans
Yoganand ,my guru Avdhoot Baba Shivanand they all practiced this yog which burns
karma, and takes one to enlightenment. Ones consciousness becomes one with the divine,
one actually becomes divine and the wisdom of god flows freely. Vedas are called "God's
Word" and it can never be understood with limited consciousness. Different branches of
science are finding their answers in other branches and one must understand that its all
created by different human brains but one must also understand that the consciousness is
one, non-dual,'advait'. Everything is connected to everything as Mandukya Upanishad
says.The question is when will one experience it. I invite west to practice this meditation
with my guru to realize what swami Vivekanand realized long back, here is the link, do chk
out,http://www.shivyog.com/
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Dave > Ashutosh Pandey
16 hours ago
I agree because Sanskrit is not really translatable to English and was written by
enlightened Sages for other enlightened Sages. All the material space of all the
Atoms of all the billions of people on this planet would be the size of a small sugar
cube. I like what your saying because karmic residue is all that is being born and
what we mistake as a material world. This is why the Atman is only the witness and
everything is Brahman. Science will never prove Brahman because it's beyond
logic, reason and thought... Namaste... I'll check out your link
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drrcyashroy > Ashutosh Pandey
3 months ago
Though Guru-student system brought the ancient Vedic knowledge to modern

times. But finding dedicated Gurus is extremely rare in this hyprocratic society.
Must see the Bollywood flick - O my God. Thus, due care has be exercised both by
gurus and students. Visit http://rakeshyashroy.blogspot.... .
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Ashutosh Pandey > drrcyashroy
3 months ago
u r right Dr. saab. my guru says a student must look out for the guru very
carefully. who should be the guru.......the one whose kundalin shakti is at his
sahastrasar chakra(crown chakra). one who can make you experience
what he says.and once you get initiated you must do whatever he asks for
he can literally see the things which are coming in your life and more so he
will protect you and do whatever to guide you,so you learn a lesson and
evolve spiritually till you achive the ultimate goal. more over one always
finds guru according to their consciousness level. and its just not the student
who looks out for guru but more than that its the guru who searches for the
student which may go from one life to many. moreover guru is an element
and should never be seen as a physical being, his teachings are more
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and should never be seen as a physical being, his teachings are more
important than anything.
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Jon Costerj > Ashutosh Pandey
3 months ago
Photons move between the spaces in atoms they are elements of electromagnetic
energy light.
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Ashutosh Pandey > Jon Costerj
3 months ago
Mr jon you may be right scientifically but what i'm trying to tell are my guru's
experiences. when he started meditating earlier and evolved spiritually he
saw his etheric body, the prana body made up of light particles. as he
evolved he saw his astral body made of light particles but more subtle.
evolving further he reached to see his causal body which was overcrowded
with karmic impressions of much more subtle energies. now what u say and
what my guru tells all are true. But for me i have to personally experience all
these subtle energies to realize my personal goal through my spiritual
practices, thats why i wrote all that. personal experience is must no matter
what science tells.
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3 months ago
Mr Ashutosh are astral bodies composed of Quantum particles your

phsyical body has electrons orbiting around each atom the particle of
opposite charge is the positron are astral bodys composed of
opposite particles to particles that compose the physical world. Can
are state of mind influence the Quantum composition of the astral
world? mind over matter, placebo effect in medicine, faith healing ect.
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3 months ago
Mr jon, i don't know yet what exactly the astral body is composed of
in scientific terms.you need to understand one thing that every
human has 5 bodies,1.physical,2.etheric,3.astral,4.causal and
5.supercausal bodies respectively.the higher u move more subtle
and stronger it is, like causal body is much more subtle than astral or
any other body before it and its much more stronger than previous
bodies and so it influences them or rather control them. a human has
nerves but subtler than nerves are energy meridiens which
constitutes etheric body, thr r 72,00,000 energy meridiens in a
human body and in it flows PRANA,(do not confuse it with prana one
of the kind of PRANA that one intake from the cosmos). subtle than
tht is astral body or mind body. as i have read but not experienced
yet (long way to go), astral body is made of light like my guru tells or
Yogananda Paramhansa's guru Shri Yukteshwar Giri ji explains him
in Autobiography of a yogi(must read) what astral world is made of in
detail to him. one cannot see beyond physical world with normal
sight, but turn ur senses inward with meditation and u could see
anyones etheric body or others even with open eyes. one has to
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3 months ago
Very interesting I have read a lot of these ideas in western books on

magic. Are some Gurus evil and corrupt like western magicians? I
used to meditate, but gave it up because of some of the visions I
saw. Been sucked inside giant black eyes ect.
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3 months ago
in shivyog we do a very sacred meditation practice, called Shree

Vidya sadhna, it is very secret. you may find someone who can
guide you about dvait,dual form of shree vidya sadhna if you search
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guide you about dvait,dual form of shree vidya sadhna if you search
hard but to get much more powerful form of it is advait,non-dual form,
and you won't find a guru for it, it is said that when u collect the pure
karmas of 9000 yrs then u r eligible for this meditation practice. it is
the one tht im very glad to say is what my devine guru blesses us
with on the instruction of his guru and of course the siddh
lok(dimensional plane where ascended masters reside) and ofcourse
MAA Lalita Tripur Sundari(divine mother). the point is again tht u do
not totally search for ur guru but it is he who is coming for u. a guru is
never evil, he is not even a person,he is an element,how can an
element b an evil, its ones own consciousness,my guru always
says,u never see a person the way he is,ull always see him d way u
r. i dont know wat kind of meditation u used to practice but its like
this,when u perform a sidh kundalini meditation practices as ur
kundalini start moving up from mooladhar to swadhishthan to
manipur chakra these r lower chakras and if a person tries to unlock
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3 months ago
Very interesting I have heard of Kundalini I have read this is the force
that can be released from the solar plexus by Tantaric sex. These
Gurus come to you in meditation they find you and are single
elements how do they no they are Gurus? Do they reach this stage
through a series of reincarnations? Western stories of Genies they
come from another place another plane and can sometimes play
tricks or be evil. I was raised as a Christian, but in my teens became
interested in the occult interpreted as the search for hidden
knowledge. I became interested in the beleifs you talk about. Are all
the gods on earth Jesus christ, Vishnua ect just incarnations of the
same devine force? If so then is this a way to unite all the peoples of
the earth and bring about peace and harmony?
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Jon Costerj > Jon Costerj
3 months ago
Are chakras points within the body where many nerves meet and so
control forces and energies? that derive from originally the brain and
is the brain capable of interacting with other forms of outer
consciousness like a computer receives information from the
internet, or a radio receiver or from are conception is all the past
thoughts memories and cultural beliefs stored in are cell hard wireing
and we just discover them as time goes by read Jung, man and his
symbols.

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3 months ago
first of all great article. Most of the people know that there are 5 elements as mentioned
above, all humans and animals are all made up of these 5 elements i.e,
earth,water,fire,air,ether. But we humans are special than animals so we have two more
elements i.e, GURU element and the PARAM(supreme) element. the science of the west is
advancing but it will take them a long time to know what the Siddhas(enlightened spiritual
masters,gurus) knew way back. West talked about junk DNA with so much confidence
until recently when they are realizing that it may not be junk afterall,but not only our Siddha
masters knew of this but they have access to all these DNAs. West will realize soon that
the ideas behind science has spiritual base. Then the question arise how to use this
science for our use in day today life and for that they will look towards India once again and
India will not disappoint. But west must look towards inside this time than looking outside for
knowledge,they must learn to meditate. They must learn to meditate on themselves, to
unfold themselves. For they cannot get the wisdom of Upanishad just by reading it,
because the book and reader are two different things in the readers head,the yog or the
union will not happen. Thats why my Siddha guru Avdhoot Baba Shivananda always saw
you be the book and you be the reader only then the yog will happen, means you meditate
and when you'll reach your higher bodies by burning your karmas then the wisdom of
Upanishad and Vedas and Puranas will unfold which are already present in your higher
bodies.
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bodies.
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Jon Costerj > Guest
3 months ago
Just as Jung spoke of collective consciousness when we dream the symbolic

information has the same meanings to many different races. We are all humans and
all of us are mixtures of many different cultures and races all sharing human DNA,
but can transcendental mental states awaken dormant DNA. How do we test
scientifically for this? Is it more to do with shared ancestry and so similar beliefs and
stories are passed on verbally by relatives, ancestors and we process them
through are mental processes and recreate are own mental versions in are waking
lives, or as a great writer once said is everything that we feel and seem just a
dream within a dream?
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