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HFC networks
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V 5.2 Interface
to the TELECOM
Video
server
Antenna array
Cable Modem Termination
System
with Provisioning Software
Billing
Status monitoring
ISP
Headend
for
digital and analogue
TV- and Radiosignals
Voice
Gate
Way
(VoIP)
Sweep
System
Reverse
unity
gain
Billing
Status Monitoring
System
HMS Standard
Ingress control
Reverse remote switch
Data services:
Fast Internet access
Fast Internet and VoIP
Fast Internet, VoIP and video streaming
Residential Gateway: Fast Internet ; VoIP
MPEG Decoder; USB; Blue tooth
Reverse path
necessary
Headends
Forward multiplexer
Reverse multiplexer
Add- on units like switches, routers, PC`s, TV`s etc. not shown
Forward
transmitter
Reversepath
receiver
Line
Opt.coupler
Line
amplifier(s)
Optical transmission:
Mono mode standard fibre
Point- to- point
Point- to- multipoint
1310 nm +/- 10 nm
Direct intensity modulated
Option: Redundancy
CM
EMTA
House amplifier
Line
tap
IP
EMTA streaming
box
Residential gateway
Splitter
Optical node
Trunkamplifiers
Trunk
5 - 65 MHZ
85 - 862 MHZ
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10
12
R emo te/
D ow nlo ad
Ope rati on
Downlo ad
Po we r
dB
B
Z
T
92 0-2 15 0 M Hz
-1 2
dB
-1 2
U0 1
11 2
dB
-12
dB
-1 2
dB
B
Z
T
92 0-2 15 0 M Hz
-1 2
dB
-1 2
dB
-12
PC/M od em
U0 1
11 2
dB
-1 2
dB
B
Z
T
92 0-2 15 0 M Hz
-1 2
dB
-1 2
U0 1
11 2
dB
-12
dB
Sat-TV-Converter
Sat-TV-Converter
Sat-TV-C onverter
Sat-TV-Converter
DVB-S-Transcod.
DVB-S-Transcod.
DVB-S-Transcod.
DVB-S-Transmod.
DVB-S-Transmod.
DVB-S-Transmod.
UFO 340
UFO 340
UFO 340
UFO 340
UFO 382
UFO 382
UFO 382
UFO386/TP
UFO386/TP
UFO 390
20610007
20610007
20610007
20610007
20610048
20610048
20610048
20610014
20610014
20610008
DVB-S-Transcod.
DVB-S-Transmod.
UFO 382
P
A
20610048
UFO 385
fa 920-2150 M Hz
fa 110- 862 MHz
Pa 75-85 dBu V
fe 950-2150 M Hz
fa 110- 862 MHz
Pa 75-85 dBu V
fe 950-2150 M Hz
fa 302- 806 MHz
Pa 80-90 dBu V
fe 950-2150 M Hz
fa 110- 862 MHz
Pa 95 dBuV
PRG
PRG
PRG
PRG
PRG
PRG
PRG
PRG
PRG
PRG
PRG
PRG
V 4.08
V 4.08
V 4.08
DEC
POWER
V mA
31
9
12,5 390
5 1160
POWER
V mA
31
6
12,5 420
5 620
POWER
V mA
31
6
12,5 420
5 620
POWER
V mA
31
6
12,5 420
5 620
POWER
V mA
31
7
12,5 500
5 500
POWER
V mA
31
7
12,5 500
5 500
POWER
V mA
31
8
12,5 500
5 800
-1 2
dB
-12
dB
-1 2
dB
-1 2
dB
-1 2
dB
-12
dB
dB
dB
U0 1
11 2
11
10
12
R emo te/
D ow nlo ad
B
Z
T
92 0-2 15 0 M Hz
U0 1
11 2
B
Z
T
92 0-2 15 0 M Hz
dB
-1 2
dB
U0 1
11 2
-12
dB
-1 2
dB
B
Z
T
92 0-2 15 0 M Hz
-1 2
dB
-1 2
dB
U0 1
11 2
-12
dB
DVB-T-Transcod.
DVB-T-Transcod.
DVB-T-Transcod.
DVB-S-Transcod.
DVB-S-Transcod.
DVB-S-Transcod.
DVB-S-Transcod.
DVB-S-Transcod.
DVB-S-Transcod.
DVB-S-Transcod.
DVB-S-Transcod.
DVB-S-Transcod.
UFO 353
UFO 353
UFO 353
UFO 382
UFO 382
UFO 382
UFO 382
UFO 382
UFO 382
UFO 382
UFO 382
UFO 382
20610048
20610048
20610048
20610048
20610048
20610048
20610048
20610048
20610048
fe 950-2150 MHz
fa 110- 862 MHz
Pa 95 dBuV
fe 950-2150 MHz
fa 110- 862 MHz
Pa 95 dBuV
fe 950-2150 MHz
fa 110- 862 MHz
Pa 95 dBuV
fe 950-2150 MHz
fa 110- 862 MHz
Pa 95 dBuV
fe 950-2150 MHz
fa 110- 862 MHz
Pa 95 dBuV
fe 950-2150 MHz
fa 110- 862 MHz
Pa 95 dBuV
fe 950-2150 MHz
fa 110- 862 MHz
Pa 95 dBuV
fe 950-2150 MHz
fa 110- 862 MHz
Pa 95 dBuV
fe 950-2150 MHz
fa 110- 862 MHz
Pa 95 dBuV
PRG
PRG
PRG
PRG
PRG
PRG
PRG
PRG
PRG
PRG
PRG
PRG
.08
-1 2
.08
dB
08
-1 2
08
dB
08
-12
08
dB
08
-1 2
08
dB
08
-1 2
2 0610 015
206 1001 5
2 061001 5
PC/M od em
08
dB
C l a ss
Ope rati on
Downlo ad
Po we r
-1 2
C l a ss
U0 1
11 2
-12
-1 2
B
Z
T
92 0-2 15 0 M Hz
B
Z
T
dB
U0 1
11 2
C l a ss
dB
-1 2
B
Z
T
92 0-2 15 0 M Hz
C l a ss
92 0-2 15 0 M Hz
C l a ss
Kla ss e
C l a ss
Kla ss e
C l a ss
Kla ss e
C l a ss
Kla ss e
C l a ss
Kla ss e
C l a ss
Kla ss e
C l a ss
Kla ss e
Kla ss e
Kla ss e
Kla ss e
C l a ss
31
6
12,5 420
5 620
POWER
V mA
31
9
12,5 320
5 800
-1 2
POWER
V mA
31
9
12,5 390
5 1160
dB
POWER
V mA
31
9
12,5 390
5 1160
DEC
Kla ss e
DEC
Kla ss e
DEC
-1 2
POWER
V mA
31
9
12,5 390
5 1160
DEC
dB
POWER
V mA
DEC
DEC
-1 2
DEC
V 4 .08
fa 920-2150 M Hz
fa 110- 862 MHz
Pa 75-85 dBu V
V 4 .08
fe 950-2150 M Hz
fa 110- 862 MHz
Pa 95 dBuV
V 4 .08
fe 950-2150 M Hz
fa 110- 862 MHz
Pa 95 dBuV
V 4 .08
fe 950-2150 M Hz
fa 110- 862 MHz
Pa 95 dBuV
V 4 .08
fe 950-2150 M Hz
fa 110- 862 MHz
Pa 95 dBuV
V 4 .08
fe 950-2150 M Hz
fa 110- 862 MHz
Pa 95 dBuV
V 4 .08
fe 950-2150 M Hz
fa 110- 862 MHz
Pa 95 dBuV
V 4 .08
fe 950-2150 M Hz
fa 110- 862 MHz
Pa 95 dBuV
V 4.08
206 455
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08
System-specific design
Mounted as specified by the customer in the
factory either in 19 technology or cabinet
mounting
Electronical tuning using control unit or laptop
with USW 30 software (telephone modem)
Optionally controllable via LAN and N-Port IP
adapter
Photorealistic on-screen display
Automatic recognition of the connected
headend
Twin modules for smaller HFC systems;
adjacent channel operation
Single modules with increased transmission
parameters and very low linear and nonlinear distortions; adjacent channel operation
Power supply unit redundancy
Passive output coupler
Highly constant output spectrum
Excellent price-performance ratio
Pilot generator(s) (MVG 10)
Output spectrum optionally KOM monitorable
(EoL monitor TLM 30)
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P ower
Keyboard
Reset
TCU 30
Reset
compact
d is c
48x
CREATIVE
O
Power
SAM
MCU
PWR
CCM
Harmonic
Ligthwaves
F
R
E
Q
A
B
C
D
HL485
Omni
Probe
LOCAL
SAM
MCU
PWR
CCM
Harmonic
Ligthwaves
F
R
E
Q
A
B
C
D
HL485
Omni
Probe
LOCAL
Synoptic board
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US MON
ETHERNET
NETWORK
CMTS
CGW 100
NETWORK
CMTS
CGW 100
RESET
CONSOLE
DS OUT
US IN
DS MON
US MON
ETHERNET
RESET
CONSOLE
DS OUT
DS MON
INONET
S1HF01
128.50.1.218
Accton
1x
2x
3x
4x
5x
6x
7x
8x
9x
10x
11x
12x
13x
14x
15x
16
Lin k/Ac t
MD I
10 0M
FDX
1
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
10
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ns
On
Off
MHz
s
Mode
KHz
ms
dB..
s
Copy
Hel p
DC
Vol+
Ch-
C H+
max
0.5W
RF
75
Mains
Vol-
MVG 10
CH : .SO
LEV : 37.2 dBV
TV
MVG 10
CH : .SO
LEV : 37.2 dBV
V ID E O . SW EE P - G EN E R ATO R
RF
On
M en
75
Off
S el e ct
V ID E O . SW EE P - G EN E R ATO R
0
MVG 10
CH : .SO
LEV : 37.2 dBV
TV
TV
RF
On
M en
s- ch
75
Off
S el e ct
.
s- ch
V ID E O . SW EE P - G EN E R ATOR
RF
On
M en
75
Off
S el ect
.
s- ch
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Cluster 1
Cluster 2
CMTS
nominal
Cluster 3
input
Cluster 4
level i.e. 60 dBV Cluster 1 to 4 and Coax
(Redundance)
Cluster 1
Cluster 2
MSK 33 i.e 60 dBV Cluster 1 to 4 and Coax
Cluster 1
Cluster 2
Cluster 3
Cluster 4
Coax
Cluster 1
Cluster 2
Cluster 3
Cluster 4
Coax
Return for other services
95 dBV from
optical receivers
Cluster 3
Cluster 4
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TVA 08; OSA 82; TVM 21; ORR 05; ORA 80; TVR 01; TFN 42
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1310 nm transmitters
B+
HF
i.e. 5-65 MHz
1310 nm
LD
IL
dBmW
Clipping
100 %
Reserve for ingress
(Return data transmission)
60 %
i.e. 6 dBmW
i.e. 30 mA
mA
IL
Characteristic line of a
directly modulated laser
15
DWDM- Transmitter
1549,32
nm
Input
40 - 870 MHz
Narrowcasting
DWDM Transmission Principle
ITU - Grid
200 GHz(1,6 nm) spacing
Receiver
7 dBm
1550,92
nm
Input
40 - 870 MHz
Demultiplexer
Multiplexer
Input
40 - 870 MHz
Input
40 - 870 MHz
1552,52
nm
1554,13
nm
1555,75
nm
Input
40 - 870 MHz
1557,36
nm
Transmitter with
external modulation
0
47- 862 MHz
Receiver
Link
extender
0
Fibre produces CSO
47-862 MHz
180
180
Modulation content
of the transmitter is at
the two outputs 180
out of phase
16
Coating
Cladding 125 m
Core 9 m
Optical coupler
20 %
10 %
70 %
Transmitter
Optical coupler
70 %
30 %
WDMC
Examples!
1310 nm
1550 nm
CWDM
1430 nm
1450 nm
1470 nm / 1490 nm /
1510 nm/ 1530 nm
DWDM
1549,32 nm
1550,92 nm
1552,52 nm
17
Node
Splice box
HF-splitter
Earth cable
LED red
-19 dBmW
LED orange
-8,5 dBmW
-6 dBm
LED green
Recommended inputpower
0 dBm
+3dBmW
Receive
Transmit
OSR 30 series
-3 dBmW
-15 dBmW
OSR 50 series
0 dBmW
18
LED signalling ORA 820 and 821 nodes
Optical receive and transmit power
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TVB 812G OTR 810
812G
OTR810
TVB812G
OTR810 TVB
TVB813
TVR10
TVR10
EMF
EMF
R1
TVR 12TR
16
19
22
TFN41
TFN41
Spleiss
Box
R1
AB Ausg.
UPS
1
LSN
T ran sm .
P ou t
P ou t
L SN
L SN
-20dB
TP
TP
-20dB
-20dB
Receiver
TR
1
LSN
R4
0,5
1
2
4
0, 5
1
2
4
AB / C
R5
0,5
1
+
2M
4
AB / C
TP
-20dB
-20dB
Transmitter
EMF
EMF
-20dB
-20dB
Slope
R5
AB / C
0,5
1
+
2M
4
OMI
R4
Slope
Receiver
AB / C
Transmitter
R3
TR
AB Ausg.
T ran sm.
Fsp.1
Fsp.2
R2
R3
AGC
L imi t
Pilo t
PW R
EspFi
Ortssp.
TVR 12TR
UPS
Ret
L SN
P in
12
Pilo t
Rec eive r
AGC
L imi t
Pilo t
TP
TVT10
TFN 41 TFN 41
R2
Un it
R ec eive r
L SN
11
Red un da nt
L SN
P WR
10
dB
Slop e
Un it
Red un da nt
P in
9
Service
Un it
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GEFAERDUNGSGRAD 1
8
Service
TVC 810
TVC810
N o min al
Un it
Fsp.Vert.
OMI
GEFAERDUNGSGRAD 1
EN 60825-1:19 97
N o min al
24 V
Aan Aab
+
24 V
KATHREIN
WFS865
KATHREIN
WFS865
A2
TP
WFS865
KATHREIN
-30dB
5-65MHz
5-65MHz
TP
85-862MHz
-30dB
5-65MHz
5-65MHz
TP
85-862MHz
-30dB
5-65MHz
5-65MHz
85-862MHz
St.vg
KATHREIN
E
A2
A1
A3 EBC803 EBC802
KATHREIN
A1
A3 EBC803 EBC802
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11
12
Optik
an
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CATV/HFC amplifiers
HFC systems are always designed for specific customers and in line with their particular philosophy. For example, an HFC system can
have short optical transmission links with long downstream amplifier cascades or conversely long optical connections with perhaps just
a single amplifier after the node. If no optical connections are used at all and everything is realised using bi-directional cascaded
amplifier technology, it is a CATV system. Amplifiers must therefore be designed in different ways depending on whether there is only
one or whether two or, e.g., forty amplifiers are to be connected in series. Different groups of customers have very different
designations for amplifiers with identical applications!
A forward path amplifier that is often cascaded is referred to as a line amplifier, trunk amplifier or, at KDG as an A/B amplifier. This
amplifier type is always pilot controlled (ALSC, see page 36), has an extremely low amplitude/frequency response, and can be fitted
with a system equaliser (not to be confused with a cable equaliser). Its relatively low nominal gain is also typical. If a second line is
branched from one line amplifier, this is done using a branch amplifier, subtrunk or trunkbridger amplifier. KDG calls this a B
amplifier. The traditional trunk does not include any passive components such as taps or splitters.
A forward path amplifier that is not frequently cascaded, if at all, is referred to as a line amplifier or at KDG as a C amplifier. It has
higher gain, typically no pilot control (C amplifier has AGC), and does not allow installation of a system equaliser. In contrast to the
trunk, passive distribution components are installed in a line.
The HFC system from the KDG has such a specific design that the system technology, equipment and their designations differ
completely from the standard terminology, system philosophy and products in normal HFC systems from other network operators in
Germany and other countries. To understand this, one needs to be familiar with the development history of the BK 300, BK 450,
BK2K2 and BK862.
All these amplifiers can be remotely fed, and can be installed above or sometimes below ground depending on the degree of protection.
The in-building amplifiers, on the other hand, are locally fed at 230 V and are designed for installation in dry locations. They are
intended to allow both a high signal output level and high gain. However, the amplitude/frequency response is higher than with the
other type of amplifier, as in-building amplifiers are not normally cascaded.
Return path amplifiers do not have different designations, but their transmission behaviour in terms of cascading is adapted to the
relevant forward amplifier types. They are not pilot controlled but, in contrast to the forward path amplifiers, have an electronically
operated 3-step swich (see page 25; switch through, 6 dB attenuation; disconnect) in the RF path. This allows the SIMS monitoring (page 9) to be
used to identify interference received from so-called man-made noise in the return path channnels, and disconnect the affected line
until it is repaired.
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Se rvice
TVC 810
TVC810
TVR10
EMF
EMF
19
Fast
AGC
PWR
TP
-20dB
AB / C
AB / C
AB / C
AB / C
EspFi
Ortssp.
Fsp.1
Fsp.2
R2
TR
1
LSN
R4
0, 5
1
2
4
0, 5
1
2
4
R5
0, 5
1
+
2M
48
0,5
1
+
2M
4
8
OMI
Slope
R5
EMF
R4
Fsp.Vert.
OMI
+
24 V
Aan Aab
+
24 V
-20dB
-20dB
TP
A2
WFS865
KATHREIN
-30dB
5-65MHz
5-65MHz
TP
WFS865
85-862MHz
KATHREIN
-30dB
5-65MHz
5-65MHz
TP
WFS865
85-862MHz
KATHREIN
-30dB
5-65MHz
5-65MHz
85-862MHz
St.vg
R3
TR
Slope
EMF
Spleiss
Box
R1
R3
1
LSN
M
-20dB
TP
TFN41
UPS
AGC
Limi t
AB Ausg.
-20dB
TVT10
TVR 12TR
UPS
Ret
P ilo t
PWR
P ilo t
AB Ausg.
TFN41
12
Pilo t
AGC
L SN
AGC
L imi t
LSN
11
TFN 41 TFN 41
R2
LSN
Fast
TVR 12TR
22 dB
S lop e
10
Service
TVR10
R1
16
TVB 812K
TVB 812K
KATHREIN
E
A2
A1
A3 EBC803 EBC802
KATHREIN
A1
A3 EBC803 EBC802
10
11
12
21
22
Red alarm
Pr
LSN
Handheld
Bus
Trunk amplifier; ALSC controlled VGP 83 (85)
0-5 dB
0-10 dB
Test
- 30 dB
B
A
-30 dB
Test
ALSC control elements
Interstage
C
Patch
Cable
equaliser
AC
WFS 65
5-65/85-862 MHz
D
AC
WFS 65
5-65/85-862
MHz
Handheld
Bus
LSN
Pr
5-12 dB
2 fach
LSN
Remote power
patch field
Pr
G
-20 dB
X5
Ingresstest G2
Handheld
Bus
X6
4 fach
C
3- stage switches
Pilotgenerator
X7
X8
bl
X9
X 17
Ripple equaliser
X 10
X 11
X 12
sw
X2
LSN
0-15 dB
Patch
D
X 18
Pr
X3
X4
1-8 dB
Bus
EMR
Handheld
Test
Test
G
Power supply
br X 16
24 V
X 15
gb
gb/gr
Remote power filter
GMZ 52
C
X 15 - X 18:
EE
Prom
Ub
Temp
P
FSK
Demod
FSK
Mod
LSN
Adr
max. 14 m
X1
Bus
X2
X3
X 3c
X6
Rev. Amp External
UAC
RS 485
UPS extern
or
programming
to X 2
23
Handheld
HTE 10
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(Option)
LMT
Manually operated (Unity gain)
Electronically operated (VGF 9000 series)
Automatic levelling (pilotcontrolled VGP 9000 series
Cable Equalizer
Ingress Test
Attenuation
Control elements
for
"unity gain"
5 - 65 MHz out
85 - 862 MHz in
Blockdiagram of typical reversepath amplifier
inserted in lineamplifiers (i.e. VGF 8xxx)
Test
- 20 dB
5 - 65 MHz in
85 - 862 MHz out
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DCM 52 i
ESM 30/40
Cable modem
PC
TV/FM
TV/FM
TV/FM
ESM31/41/42
DCM 52 i
DCM 52 i
PC
Cable modem
DCM 52 i
PC
PC
Cable Modem
Cable modem
EST 20
PC
TV
FM
Splitter
C
NTU
DCM 52 i
Line tap-off
Cable modem
KOM
0
-6
off
Overvoltage protector
10 BaseT Hub
RF forward
RF return
10 Base T Ethernet (Twisted Pair)
a/b
USB
DCV 10 (E)
TV/FM
Fax
Telephone
PC
ESM 30/40
Cable modem
for triple play service
Splitter
EMTA
TV/Rdf
EVK 100
EMTA
ESD 85
IP Streaming
Residential Gateway
ESD 85
TV/Rdf
Wireless Ethernet
Wireless DECT
NTU
Wireless Modem
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DECT
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Technical appendix
The block diagrams in this seminar show the optical or high frequency signal progression necessary
for understanding.
Correct installation, earthing, weather protection, lightning protection and power supply has
not been dealt with!
The technical appendix does not contain comprehensive instructions for calculation of HFC
networks.
The intention is to provide an overview of how distortion ratios in the forward and return paths
behave in terms of the relevant operating level and how the distortion ratio sums are determided in
cascades. This is important because the installation engineer essentially does two things during the
calibration:
-
He balances the amplitude/frequency response using cable equalisers, to level out the
frequency progression of the coaxial cable. All channels transmitted then have the same
nominal level on the output.
He sets the appropriate output level on the amplifiers or the drive level for the
transmitters:...and therefore influences the distortion ratios (CSO; CTB; C/N and CIN).
If the associated end device does not have the required distortion ratio on the input
(and the necessary useful level of course), it will function only poorly or not at all.
We are pleased to provide advice about our HFC products and systems. Please contact us by e-mail
at: CATV@kathrein.de
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Video carrier
CSO
f3
CTB
f4
32
3,4 dB
5 dB
Example 2:
Two cascaded amplifers with 60 dB
C/N each; Alltogether it`s 57 dB
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S/N
White noise
Notch filter
CIN
Band limited
S
(N + Intermod)
VGR 34
1 Amplifier
40 Amplifiers
60 dB
22 dB Dynamic
64 dBV
50 dB
55 dBV(2 MHz)
correlated noise
20 dB
dynamic range
20logx10
75
=20 dB
dBV
55 dBV
- 8 dBV/Hz
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Inputlevel dBV/Hz
(OMI %)
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Amplifier
Input level 70 dBV
Analogue
Demodulation/Remodulation
FM
AM
E
D
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F
cp
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K
S
P
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C/N 10 dB
C/N 42 dB
Conversion gain i.e. 32 dB (data sheet)
C/N at the output depends on C/N at the input
Transmodulation
Transcoder
PAL
QPSK
The C/N (carrier-to-noise) specifies the highfrequency noise ratio (dB) of a carrier signal
(dBV) based on the noise level (dBV)
The noise figure of an active component
specifies by how many dB the noise
increases compared to 75 ohm impedance
The noise level is based on a certain
bandwidth; in AM-TV signals with 5 MHz
bandwidth, the noise level is 1.8 dBV +
noise figure
The modulation gain is the difference of the
input carrier-to-noise ratio to the output
signal-to-noise ratio in different analogue
modulations
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dB
Splitter
Timedelayed reflection
dB
Amplifier
open or shortcircuited
cable
f
The level of the channels is now different
Forward and reflected waves are superimposed
Reflection(s) at the TV screen
Reduced carrier to noise ratio
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Gain
Frequency
+60C
+20C
- 30 C
Cable loss
+/-5 dB
+60C
+20C
-20C
Frequency
Frequency
Long loop AG C
CM TS
forward
D ow nstream
H FC net
U pstream
N om inal input
level
(Firm w are adjusted)
C able
m odem
return
Transm itting level
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