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wonderful beloved Disney and Warner Bros. cartoons would have been produced, as the
commercial products they were, without Bray initially founding the industry.
You call Col. Heeza Liar the first recurring character in animation. What makes him
seem a consistent character in a way that hadn't been done before?
To be more specific, Heeza Liar was the first character created specifically for the cinema
screen, and it happened to be a recurring series at that. Previously, Emil Cohl was
responsible for a series of films featuring The Newlyweds, which were characters from a
newspaper comic. Col. Heeza Liar was created specifically for film, and Bray produced two
series of films starring the tall tale-teller, from 1913 to 1917 and 1922 to 1924.
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One of the lines about early film that I always think about is Charles Musser's, that we
shouldn't look at early films as merely tentative steps toward later film they had their
own purposes, artistic intentions etc. and those might be very different from what
became standard filmmaking technique and language. That's a real issue with
animation, because we unconsciously assume everything is an imperfect step toward
one ultimate goal, Disney-style feature perfection. So what do you think is different
about early animation how should we be looking at it to see what people wanted to
do when they saw that drawings could be made to move?
This point and Mussers sentiment you bring up is an incredibly important thing to consider
when looking at early animation, and one that I feel is lacking in popular or typical
treatments of animation history. Sure, there are quite a few people who love and appreciate
early works as-is, purely for what they are, but this unconditional appreciation is rare.
Generally speaking, the dominant thinking in animation fandom and research tends to be
what you mentioned; that Disney-style perfection is the ideal. Another school of thought
professes that Golden Age Warner Bros. animation is the alternate ideal, in terms of visual
style but especially in terms of humor, pacing, and cleverness in gags. In both cases, the two
studios 1930s-1940s product (especially Technicolor) can be considered the artistic height
of commercial animation on many levels, and I would have to agree.
Early animation, particularly of the silent era, often exhibits wonderful artistic styles and
fascinating techniques, and more importantly, it boasts a significant record of
experimentation and discovery that the later popular classics only built upon. The early
animated cartoons are a valuable visual record of artistic and technical accomplishments
made by illustrators and early filmmaking pioneers who were learning as they went along.
Save for one book in the 1920s, there were no written guides or classes for learning
animation, and naturally the resulting early cartoons were often laden with crudities. Its
always fascinating to me to see the evolution (and improvement) of techniques when certain
films are watched chronologically; however, later polished productions do not detract from
the earlier, simpler, and more crude product in my view. It is all very whimsical to me.
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How do you find cartoon shorts from this era? Were they widely released to the home
market?
For as much as theyve been ignored in modern film history scholarship, and generally
neglected in an archival sense all along, many of these films enjoyed lengthy shelf lives in
secondary markets. Many of them were copied, sometimes illegally, for home use and
eventually for television. In the late 1940s, while distributor M.J. Winkler was ordering the
destruction of her archive of silent 35mm Krazy Kat cartoon negatives, Paul Terry, Max
Fleischer, and even Bray were busy re-selling their remaining early films to television
distribution. Scholars of dramatic or comedy films may not always like animated films, but
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the truth is that cartoons from all periods had more of a timeless commercial value than
older live action films. While they dont turn up constantly, 16mm prints of many silent-era
titles made for home use, rental, and television were plentiful at one time, and that format
makes up the bulk of my archive.
So I guess your releases and those from Thunderbean have found an audience for
well-curated programs of early animation, as they keep coming and now they're on
blu-ray. What's the reaction to these releases been, and what's next for you after
Cartoon Roots?
The reaction has really been fantastic. Making use of the newish Blu-ray format and new HD
remastering/restorations/releases helps immensely, in my opinion. Releases like this help fill
in a lot of gaps where the major studios and bean counting distributors will not or cannot
venture. Most of the time, the films on our releases are "orphan films," meaning that the
original production studios or ensuing rights holders folded years ago, nor were intellectual
property rights enforced after a certain point. That might seem like a bad thing from an
archival standpoint--but keep in mind just how many of the historic major studios, some of
which still exist, willfully destroyed films through the decades, which they still owned in
beautiful master materials. While many orphan films may have been handled poorly over the
years, if not entirely lost, their very nature gives us license to breathe new life into the films
and begin sharing them again.
As for the Cartoons On Film label, I'd love to have a new collection come out sometime this
year. Perhaps an introductory Bray set; a potpourri of important and fun films from the
studio, much in the spirit of Cartoon Roots. With just one professional release out of the
gate and no snowball effect of buyers ordering multiple Cartoons On Film releases, yet,
Roots isn't bringing in quite enough to both provide me with meals and fund a second
release. I'll probably have to put together a pre-order fundraiser to make this happen. In an
ideal world, and based purely on the amount of material I have, I could envision having at
least a couple dozen releases out there. There are just several logistical and financial hurdles
to overcome first, and I'm very happy about how supportive everyone has been right off the
bat.
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