Ganesh Thakur, vice president, global adviser, and fellow of Chevron
Energy Technology Company, is the 2012 SPE president. He will take office during the 2011 SPE Annual Technical Conference and Exhibition in Denver. Thakur is a recognized leader in reservoir engineering and simulation, secondary recovery, reservoir and well productivity improvement, heavy oil, horizontal well technology, and enhanced oil recovery. He is also known for his work in the emergence of reservoir management, particularly waterflooding, as a key interdisciplinary practice. Thakur has published and taught widely around the world. He has designed and operated reservoir management programs, mentored technical professionals, and served as an ambassador of technology to national oil companies and government ministries. Thakur is an SPE Distinguished Member and has served as technical director of Reservoir Description and Dynamics on the Board of Directors. He is an SPE Distinguished Lecturer, past chairman of the SPE Reprint Series Committee, and served on the SPE Editorial Review and Forum Series committees. Thakur was also a short course instructor on integrated reservoir management and waterflood management. He received the SPE Reservoir Description and Dynamics award in 2005, Pennsylvania State University Outstanding Alumni Achievement award in 2006, and Orange County (California) Outstanding Engineer of the Year award in 1994. Thakur earned a BS degree in petroleum engineering from the Indian School of Mines. He earned MS and PhD degrees in petroleum and natural gas engineering, and an MA degree in mathematics, all from Pennsylvania State University. He also earned an MBA degree from Houston Baptist University.
How did you get involved in SPE?
It was as a student member, in the late 1960s, when I was going to school in India at the Indian School of Mines (ISM). I became a student member, although I do not think the student chapter was even formalized yet by SPE. I became more involved when I went to graduate school at Penn State. I have remained active in student membership, local sections, the Editorial Committee, Distinguished Lecturer Committee, Forums, Applied Technology Workshops, the program for the SPE Annual Technical Conference and Exhibition, and more. I have been working since 1973, the first four years for BP/Amoco and SSI and 34 years for Chevron. I was with Gulf Oil when it was acquired by Chevron in the 1980s.
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As an undergraduate, oil prices were low and people
asked me, Why are you studying petroleum engineering? You are a good student. They got me scared and they thought oil and gas would run out in 30 to 40 years. They were wrong, and today we will still have 30, 40, 50 or more years of oil remaining, especially as we go from conventional oil and gas to unconventional oil and gas. The sky is the limit, and we may have a whole new era coming up. This has been a very rewarding career for me, and that is the kind of message I would like to send to young people in this industry. This can be a very rewarding career, not just in financial terms, but also because this is exciting work where you can use advanced technologies. You get
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to work all over the world, meet diverse people, and make friends everywhere. What has brought you the most satisfaction in your career? Most satisfying for me has been contributing technically to my company and contributing to the industry. I have saved and made millions of dollars for my company. In addition, I have worked on projects that have added millions of barrels of reserves and thousands of barrels of production. I have always been business focused and am always looking for business results from technology. When you use technology and see the benefits and the value that come from it in terms of increased oil and gas recovery and production and/ or safer operations, for your company and for the industry, it is very satisfying. The brightest career achievement for me has been mixing the technical strengths with the practical strengths that go into operating a field. I have a strong technical background. But what I enjoy most is using technology to make things happen in the field. Another aspect is the opportunity I have had to develop professional relationships with other professionals in the oil and gas business and to be able to exchange ideas with them. Being the 2012 SPE president means a lot to me because I am now being recognized by my peers for a career that has impacted my profession, and it is very humbling to me. I have always viewed SPE as the highest professional association for engineers and scientists practicing in the profession of oil and gas exploration and production. In what other profession can you make a difference in the lives of millions of people every day? What other profession allows you to provide oil and gas, the most important form of energy today, all around the world? I am committed to doing the best job I can for my company and professional society on every project every day, and nothing less. I have a commitment to top quality for those I serve. What goals have you set for your term as president? The industry does face a challenge that I believe SPE can help with, which is how to increase recoveries and get more oil and gas out of existing fields. I would like to see SPE more active in helping the industry squeeze more oil and gas out of reservoirs and create more business value. I would like to see the industry use different types of technologies such as 3D and 4D seismic technologies, horizontal well technology, multilateral well technology, enhanced oil recovery or water injection or gas injection projects. This could be in deepwater or onshore fields, whether the field is brand-new or mature. Increasing the recovery efficiencies of those fields is something that is close to my heart and I would like to see the industry be more successful in that area. On average, right now our recovery efficiencies for the fields all over the world are only in the 30% to 40% range. I would like to see that number double. I would like to challenge our industry to try to increase that figure to 70%. With innovative ideas and hard work, I have seen many fields yielding recovery efficiencies of 60% to 70%.
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What can SPE do to help the
industry improve recovery rates? SPE collects, disseminates, and exchanges technology and technical information, and it can promote the use of this information as well as collaborate more in the industry with academia, national oil companies, operators, and service companies. Collaboration and trust building are essential to develop any partnership, and it takes time to achieve this. Some of these things are happening now, but I would like to see more well organized, collaborative efforts. More indepth discussions, for example, and developing more standard practices in surveillance and monitoring of fields. Right now, there are pockets of excellence in the industry, but it is not happening consistently all over the world. I would like to see SPE take a leadership role in developing minimum standards, or standards, in these areas. If those practices were done in a more organized fashion, it would be a service to the industry as a whole. What other goals do you have? The other area I would like to focus on is energy education. It is already happening. We have Energy4Me, we have lots of good information on the SPE website, and we have done programs at large conferences. But I think we have a long way to go in terms of educating the public, such as educating high school teachers and encouraging students to become more interested in science and engineering, especially petroleum science and engineering. As the industry grows, it will need more people in the future. I think we could do more with high schools and work more with teachers, making educators and students more aware of our business and its importance. Our industry is not an old-fashioned, dying industryit is a very scientific field that requires a high level of technology. Sometimes we try to convey these ideas to the public, but we talk more about our profession or technology, which can become very dry. We need to communicate better. People need gas for their car, air conditioning for their house, and gas for cooking. Everyones livelihood depends on the use of energy. What do you think are the biggest challenges facing SPE? One of the biggest challenges facing SPE is education about the industry, especially in North America and Europe. A lot of people feel that the oil and gas industry is not a clean industry, and there is a negative perception regarding our safety standards and the industrys profitability. It is very important for our profession that we convey an accurate message. This industry is a very safe industry that cares about environment and health and safety of individuals. We should always strive for high performance with a relentless focus on safety as it has to be the way of life in our society. At times, profitability is high in this industry, but at the same time investment is high as well. I believe SPE has a role to play in this area. The second challenge is that SPE must get more involved in certain areas of technology. This includes how we apply it, how the industry collaborates with academia, and how dif-
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ferent companies collaborate. Because SPE is a neutral and
nonpolitical organization, it has an advantage no other organization has. SPE is already taking a leading role in industry reserves and resources classification, and I would like it to continue that role. SPE carries a lot of professional recognition and prestige. Are we utilizing all of that recognition most effectively? I would say we are barely scratching the surface, because we have tremendous influence. We do not have much authority globally, but the influence that we carry is tremendous.
get together and, rather than each company testing an idea
on its own and struggling through it, they could test ideas as joint industry projects. SPE cannot do a lot on its own in this area, but it could be a great facilitator to get people to talk about these things together, which would get some of these ideas implemented at a faster rate. Testing technology through a collaborative effort can be a winning model for the industry, in terms of increasing efficiency and testing an idea at a faster rate. If the idea fails, then nobody gets hurt completely because everybody is contributing a small amount. SPE, being one of the primary technical organizations in our field, has an important role to play.
What are your thoughts about
membership growth? If you include everyone, including students, SPE member- What do you see as the value of SPEs ship is about 97,000 today. So membership has grown, and technical paper archive? continues to grow, tremenI see remarkable value in dously. There is no reait. There is not a single son we cannot continue project that I work on to grow all over the world; where I do not do a litI have always viewed SPE as the there is going to be more erature search on SPE, energy demand around using OnePetro, before highest professional association for the world in the future, beginning to work on it. so there is no reason why The benefit is that you we cannot double our curcan see what kind of work engineers and scientists practicing rent membership. In 10 to has already been done 20 years I see that hapin an area. So, first, I do in the profession of oil and gas pening, with SPE reachnot have to reinvent the ing global membership of wheel. Secondly, I can exploration and production. In what 150,000 to 200,000. SPE is learn from what has been a very vital, well-run, and done and apply it. In my well-respected organizaopinion, the archive is one other profession can you make a tion around the world. of the most valuable assets Some things SPE does that SPE has for its memdifference in the lives of millions of extremely well such as bers. Some of us are utilizmeetings and forums. But ing the library to its full there are some areas where extent, but I believe it is people every day? we can focus on more such not highly utilized everyas training and education. where in the world at this That is one area where SPE time. I am not sure all of is already making great efforts, and I see even more growth our members, especially student members, are fully taking opportunities in that area. As membership grows more in advantage of this capability. developing countries, there will be more demand for training and standards. Do you think members have Certification is another growth area for SPE. Many univer- an obligation to contribute to the sities around the world are not accredited, and many stan- technical paper archive? dards around the world are not at the same level as in other Of course they do. We all do. I have contributed many countries. But people are hungry to improve their standards, technical papers myself. How did these papers get generso that is another area of growth that I see in the future. ated? Petroleum engineers, members of SPE, are the primary contributors. What we are doing here is contributing indiWhat do you think SPE can do vidually and benefiting collectively. If we stop contributing to encourage use or acceptance of new papers, then the technology knowledge is not going to technology, or emerging technology? advance any more. The more we contribute, the more the Compared with other industries, ours takes a relatively lon- industry gains. ger time to adopt new technology from the inception of an When we contribute something, our peers get a chance to idea to complete implementation. It takes approximately 10 look at our ideas. When you get something critically evaluto 15 years or even longer. It is important for us to shorten ated by your peers and pass that test, it tells you that the that time, and I believe SPE can take a leadership role in contribution you have made is valuable and credible. I think this area. Some technologies should be developed in a col- the technical paper archive as well as the peer review process laborative way, and SPE is fertile ground to nurture that and the critical review process are processes by which we collaboration. SPE can create an environment where people professionally grow.
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That is a traditional way of contributing to the industry. What do you think of social media and its potential? It can certainly make a contribution. We are barely scratching the surface in this area. Many other industries are taking more advantage of this. This type of communication is more informal, and at the same time very rapid, whereas the oldfashioned approach is more methodical. Social media communication is not reviewed that well so you have to take it at your own risk, but it is a fast way to communicate. I would emphasize that whether it is the old-fashioned way, or a new approach, or using different media, we should never forget about the quality and professionalism of what we contribute and what we write. After all, SPE exists and has been successful because professionally we are sound and we have been fair and ethical in how we have done things. How has your career prepared you for the SPE presidency? I have been a volunteer member of SPE for more than 40 years. I have held all types of positions in SPE, starting at the bottom, and have been a technical reviewer, a Distinguished Lecturer, and served in all types of ways including on the SPE International Board of Directors. SPE has given me a lot in professional growth and experience, and I want to give back. I feel any professional should give something back to his organization or profession.
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How do you see the future of
the oil and gas industry? The outlook for the future of the industry is bright and healthy. Today, we are producing about 85 million b/d and the forecast is that by the year 2030, production is going to grow by 30% to 40%. World energy demand is going to increase, so there is a growing demand for professionals in our industry. The outlook for this industry is bright for the young professionals and students coming into our business. I would encourage young professionals to become active and take a leadership role, and I would encourage college and high school students to join the petroleum industry because this a very important industry and it is going to be here for the next 30, 40, 50, or even more years. I see a very robust oil and gas industry in the future. However, in my opinion, we need to change our message when we communicate with others outside of our industry. Our point should be to describe briefly what we do, and focus more on the value of our profession, like providing energy for light, heating, air conditioning, driving, running machines, airplanes, etc., by exploring, drilling, producing, refining, and transporting oil and gas and the derivative products for a variety of usage. If we stop these activities of exploration and production of energy, the whole world will come to its knees. So, what we do is an integral part of our society, and todays young engineers and scientists are going to play an even more JPT important role than my generation played.