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Buddhism makes you feel tired and rigid?

by DarwidHalim Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:05 am
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In one of the link, there is a reply like this

"Remember that the Buddha has the full view, he knew what is right what is wrong, don't apply
your view on his teaching. If he said don't lie, then don't lie, if he said don't kill, then don't
kill."
I don't say this is right or wrong because it depends on your personal choices.
There are people who see buddhism as a very rigid system.
What I want to see is the impact of this approach to your daily life?
Does buddhism (or after you adopt buddhism) make you in your daily life feel tired (ehhmm,
may be not tired, but may be make you feel constrain, or stress)?
Or
It is on another way around, Buddhism makes you in your daily life feel more lively or more
freedom?
The second question is
To your personal interpretation, is Buddhism rigid? A is A, B is B?
or in Buddhism, A can be B or C, B can be A or C?
This is just like, ehmmm may be survey and it is not about right and wrong. Just your view.

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Buddhism makes you feel tired and rigid? - Dhamma Wheel

Thank you.
I am not here nor there.
I am not right nor wrong.
I do not exist neither non-exist.
I am not I nor non-I.
I am not in samsara nor nirvana.
To All Buddhas, I bow down for the teaching of emptiness. Thank You!
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Re: Buddhism makes you feel tired and rigid?

by Dan74 Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:15 am
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will take a rigid approach to Buddhism. I don't think

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by ground Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:31 am

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DarwidHalim wrote:
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It is on another way around, Buddhism makes you in your daily life feel more lively or more
freedom?

The path has not been taught to make one "feel better in daily life".

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Re: Buddhism makes you feel tired and rigid?

by Goofaholix Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:46 am
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Dan74 wrote:
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People with inclination to rigid views will take a rigid approach to Buddhism. I don't think
Buddhism is to blame.

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very true
"Right effort is effort with wisdom. Because where there is wisdom, there is interest. The desire to know something is
wisdom at work. Being mindful is not difficult. But its difficult to be continuously aware. For that you need right effort. But
it does not require a great deal of energy. Its relaxed perseverance in reminding yourself to be aware. When you are
aware, wisdom unfolds naturally, and there is still more interest." - Sayadaw U Tejaniya

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Re: Buddhism makes you feel tired and rigid?

by DarwidHalim Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:57 am
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Oho yes, I think I make it wrong because buddhism
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has so many schools with different

It should be:
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The second question is

To your personal interpretation, is Theravadan Buddhism rigid? A is A, B is B?
or in Theravadan Buddhism, A can be B or C, B can be A or C?
I am not here nor there.
I am not right nor wrong.
I do not exist neither non-exist.
I am not I nor non-I.
I am not in samsara nor nirvana.
To All Buddhas, I bow down for the teaching of emptiness. Thank You!
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Re: Buddhism makes you feel tired and rigid?

by tiltbillings Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:08 am
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Oh yes, I think I make it wrong because buddhism has so many schools with different
interpretations.

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It should be:
The second question is
To your personal interpretation, is Theravadan Buddhism rigid? A is A, B is B?
or in Theravadan Buddhism, A can be B or C, B can be A or C?

Huh?
.

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This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN
I, 38.

Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should
that mean that it is not real? HPatDH p.723
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by ground Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:10 am

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Oh yes, I think I make it wrong because buddhism has so many schools with different
interpretations.

http://dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=9785&p=150266[16/8/2558 4:12:17]

Buddhism makes you feel tired and rigid? - Dhamma Wheel

It should be:
The second question is
To your personal interpretation, is Theravadan Buddhism rigid? A is A, B is B?
or in Theravadan Buddhism, A can be B or C, B can be A or C?

Thinking in terms of "Thervadan Buddhism" and "Non-Theravada Buddhism" would be a

manifestation of "rigidity" for me.
"A" and "B", are those logical (dialectical) variables? If yes, then "A" cannot be "non-A".
In case "A" and "B" are epistemological variables then both "A" and "B" are dependent arisings
and therefore their meaning depending on context and without context given they are
indeterminable.

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Re: Buddhism makes you feel tired and rigid?

by plwk Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:00 pm
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with cats & Buddhism than online Buddhists....

Bhikkhus, if you develop and make much this one thing,

it invariably leads to weariness, cessation, appeasement, realization and extinction.
What is it? It is recollecting the Enlightened One.
If this single thing is recollected and made much,
it invariably leads to weariness, cessation, appeasement, realization and extinction.
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Re: Buddhism makes you feel tired and rigid?

by chownah Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:40 pm
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t I've been there a few times and it often makes me tired and sleepy....but not rigid.

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Re: Buddhism makes you feel tired and rigid?

by santa100 Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:27 pm
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o opportunity to learn and practice Buddhism is the biggest blessing
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to be born a millionaire and yet never hears a Buddha's word
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for me. If given a choice

versus a regular person

and get to know the Dhamma, I'd pick the second option every time..
Ok, back to the analysis.

DarwidHalim wrote:
To your personal interpretation, is Theravadan Buddhism rigid? A is A, B is B?

http://dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=9785&p=150266[16/8/2558 4:12:17]

Buddhism makes you feel tired and rigid? - Dhamma Wheel

or in Theravadan Buddhism, A can be B or C, B can be A or C?

It's rather: If A, then B. Doesn't matter which school of Buddhism: Theravada, Mahayana,
Vajrayana, Zen, etc.. there'll always be "hard" rules that never change. Ex: "If one conducts
oneself in the way of greed, anger, and delusion, one will reap suffering as a result" or "If the
N8P is practiced to fruition, it'll result in the end of dukkha", etc..
As far as whether A can be B or C, the closest thing I could think of is the different methods of
meditation from different schools. Meditation, whether in term of tranquility or insight, can be
implemented using different methods that are suitable to the individual: In-Out Breath,
Vipassana, Koan/HoaTau, Tara visualization, Amitabha recitation, etc.. In that way, we could
see that there's a certain degree of flexibility in term of the training methods. It's hard to find
a religious system that is practical, effective, and robust like Buddhism. I strongly believe
those who get to know, learn, and practice the Dhamma, in whatever school it is, must've done
something right in their previous lives...

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