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Case Number 2502689/99
BETWEEN
Applicant Respondent
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HELD AT Birminghan1 ON 29 September2000
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CHAIRMAN Mr C P Rostant
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The applicant was representedby Mr Aziz of Counsel. Both respondentswere
: representedby Mr Jones,solicitor.
3 The applicant was pursuinga complaintof sex discrimination and unfair dismissal
against the respondents and the matter was being dealt" with by the Employment
Tribunals in Newcastle. During in September1999 it becameapparentthere had been
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14 The respondentson the other hand say that they honestly believed that a binding
settlementhad been reachedthrough the offices of ACAS and that without hearing from
the partiesconcernedit is not opento me to decidewhat a tribunal would have decided
on that matter.They point to the fact that the respondentspursuedthe matter and incurred
;. coststhemselvesjn pursuit of the matter, apparentlysincerely, and that that from that I
can concludethat not only was tbis not frivolous conduct but that it was not vexatious
either. In respectof the late withdrawal, Mr Jonesacknowledgesthat it may, at most,
" haveamountedto poorjudgmenton the part of the respondents
to rely on the applicant
giving permissionfor them approachMr Nelson, but that that was not unreasonableand
furthermorehe saysthe reasonwhy Mr Ne1sonwas not approacheduntil relatively late in
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the day was the fact that the respondentshonestlybelievedthat the whole matter could be
settledprior to thesepreliminary proceedingsand that they were reluctant to incur costs
which might eventually be thrown away.
15 I have reviewed all of the evidencein front me and concludedthat the applicant
hasnot satisfied me on the balanceof probabilities that theseproceedingswere advanced
frivolously. I am somewhattroubled by the correspondence,which suggeststhat the ~
issueof the terms of the referencemay never have been finalised with the Newcastle
ACAS officer, and that it is at least possible, even on the correspondencefrom the
respondents,that they might have had difficulty in pointing to a final agreementon all
mattersconstituting a settlementwith the ACAS officer. However, the matter is not so
clear cut that I am able to say now with any appropriatedegree of certainty that this
applicationnever stood any reasonableprospectof successand it is thereforenot opento
me to conclude tl)at it was launched frivolously nor indeed that it was pursued
\, vexatiously. I am, however,deeplytroubledby the mannerin which the respondents
haveconductedthemselvesonce the decision to go forward on the basis of a preliminary
hearinghad been reached.
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evidence tocrucial
is so understand whyability
to their the respondents
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to persuade thethat
tribunal viewa
binding agreementhas beenreached.Without that evidence,in my view, the respondents
are simply in a position of adducingevidencewithin their own control, namely evidence
from Mrs Williams, partner of the respondentflrIn of conduct of these matters, and
having that evidence tested in cross-examinationin the same way that the applicant
would havegiven evidenceand had her evidencetestedin cross-~amination. In addition
to that evidence, there would have been the evidence of the correspondencepassing
betweenthe parties. Mr Nelson's absence,\\'hilst meaning that it was not possible for
him to confinn the respondentspoint of view, also would mean that it was not possible
for him to confirm the applicant's point of view. Save for the fact that the respondents
had the burden of proof resting on them, they were no worse fixed than the applicant in
their ability to succeedin the caseonceMr Nelson was not going to be available.
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for giving evidence about negotiations for settlementunless the party with whom he
communicatedgives permission for that evidenceto be given. I understandfrom Mr
Jones that the respondentswere taken aback by the applicant's refusal to give that
permission once they sought it in late July. To my mind that demonstratesquite
extraordinary naivety on the part of the respondents. Why should the applicant give
permissionfor the respondentsto obtain evidencewhich might be helpful to them in their
caseagainsther? There is no earthly reasonwhy the applicant should waive the right to
confidentiality that she had in those circumstancesand the respondentshad no earthly
groundsfor assumingthat shewould, if indeedthey addressedthemselvesto that aspect
of section18 at that stagewhich, I haveto say, I greatly doubt.
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23 I then turn my attentionto the counsel's fees. Of thosefeesI disallow the feesfor
the atten4anceat the hearing of 19 January2000. It will be seenfrom my decisionabove
that I have taken the view that there was nothing frivolous, vexatiou.o; or unreasonable
with the respondentsconduct in seekinga preliminary hearing and in raising that matter
at the hearingfor directions on 19 January2000, making it inevitablethat the tribunal, on
that occasion,would abandonthe task of setting any further directions for the hearingof
the substantivecase. The respondentsunreasonablebehaviourdoesnot commenceuntil
14 February 2000, by which time they ought to have, in my view, canvassedand
understoodthe availability or lack of availability of Mr Nelson as a witness and made
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to allow Mr Aziz'soffee
thefor
case on thattoday
attending basis. I also
since thistake
casethe view
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upon it. Upon which I will then proceedto make a decisionin relation to costs for that
amount. I am, at this stage,however,preparedto order the respondentspay £30 to the
applicantby way of her reasonablyincurred expensesin postageand photocopyingover
the period from 14 Februaryto 19July 2000 inclusive.
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