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Table of Contents

Important Safety Information ........................................1

Rear Pedestal Specification Sheet ..........................42

Internal Flo-Fuse ......................................................7

Fender Measurement ..............................................43

Maintaining your Mixer Hydrostatic Pump and Motor


System..........................................................................9

Open Center Chute Block ........................................44

Gauge Installation Location ........................................15


Troubleshooting Your Mixer Hydrostatic System ....17

Open Center Chute Valve Assembly


HOLD POSITION ......................................................45
Open Center Chute Valve Assembly
RAISE POSITION ....................................................46

How to use the Fault Logic Charts ............................23


Troubleshooting Hydraulic Pumps and Motors ..........24

Open Center Chute Valve Assembly


LOWER POSITION ..................................................47

Diagram Action Steps ..............................................28

Open Center Chute Valve Troubleshooting................48

Eaton Hydraulic Division, Eaton Hydrostatic Pump - Ball


Guide ..........................................................................30

Maintenance Periodic Inspection ............................49


Roller Adjustments

..................................................51

Control Valve - Old Style ............................................32


Universal Drive Shaft ..................................................52
Control Valve - New Style S/N 0986 and higher ........33
Pump and Universal Alignment ................................53
Charge Pump Rotation Identification ........................34
ZF Drum Drives ........................................................54
Valve Plate Rotation ................................................35
ZF Drum Drives ..........................................................55
Broken Pump Shaft ..................................................36
Fluid Power Equivalents ............................................56
Hydrostatic Installation and Clean and Flush
Procedures ................................................................37
Recommendations for Hydraulic Fluid
Specifications ..........................................................38

Common Abbreviations ..............................................57


Index ..........................................................................59

Mixer Oil Specs ........................................................39


Water Tank Measurement ........................................41

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Important Safety Information


IMPORTANT SAFETY INFORMATION
READ AND UNDERSTAND THIS ENTIRE MANUAL
BEFORE OPERATING, REPAIRING, OR ADJUSTING
YOUR MCNEILUS MIXER. THOSE WHO USE AND
MAINTAIN THIS EQUIPMENT MUST BE
THOROUGHLY TRAINED AND FAMILIAR WITH THE
PRODUCT.
IF INCORRECTLY USED OR
MAINTAINED, THIS EQUIPMENT CAN CAUSE
SEVERE INJURY.
Always keep this manual in a location where it is readily
available for persons who operate or maintain the
product. Additional copies of this manual are available
from McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing; (507) 3746321 at no charge. Please contact McNeilus Truck and
Manufacturing if you require additional manuals or if you
have any questions concerning the information in this
manual or this product.
Some service operations may require special tools,
equipment, or blocking devices (such as the body hoist
or tailgate). If you require information on these items,
please contact McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing at
(507) 374-6321 before attempting these repairs and
service operations.
THESE SAFETY PROCEDURES ARE FOR YOUR
OWN PROTECTION.
DO NOT OPERATE OR REPAIR THIS EQUIPMENT
UNTIL YOU HAVE READ THIS MANUAL AND
UNDERSTAND ITS CONTENTS THOROUGHLY.
PLEASE
CALL
MCNEILUS
TRUCK
AND
MANUFACTURING AT (507) 374-6321 IF YOU
REQUIRE ASSISTANCE!
SHOULD AN OPERATOR OF THIS EQUIPMENT
HAVE A READING OR LEARNING DISABILITY,
DYSLEXIA, OR OTHER SUCH CONDITION, THEN HE
OR SHE MUST BE ASSIGNED A MENTOR/TRAINER
TO READ AND EXPLAIN TO SUCH INDIVIDUAL THE
ENTIRE CONTENTS OF THIS MANUAL AS WELL AS
THE SAFETY GUIDELINES, DANGER, CAUTION AND
WARNING DECALS AND PLACARDS AFFIXED TO
THIS UNIT. SUCH INDIVIDUAL SHOULD NOT BE
ALLOWED TO OPERATE THIS EQUIPMENT UNTIL
HE OR SHE THOROUGHLY UNDERSTANDS ALL OF
THESE MATERIALS. FAILURE TO DO SO CAN
RESULT IN SERIOUS PERSONAL INJURY OR
DEATH.
SAFETY AND SAFE WORKING PROCEDURES MUST
BE FOLLOWED AT ALL TIMES. OSHA LOCK OUT
PROCEDURES MUST BE FOLLOWED WHEN
MAINTAINING THIS EQUIPMENT. IF YOU ARE

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UNFAMILIAR WITH THE OSHA LOCK OUT


PROCEDURES OR ANY SAFETY REQUIREMENTS,
PLEASE CONTACT MCNEILUS TRUCK AND
MANUFACTURING AT (507) 374-6321 FOR
ASSISTANCE.

WARNING

Anytime you are working on this equipment or its


related systems, you must do the following:
1. Inform the truck driver that the equipment is
going to be repaired and locked out and that he
must not attempt to start the truck.
2. Follow all OSHA and Mixer Lock Out procedures.
Remove the keys from the trucks ignition.
3. Place magnetic signs on both doors of the truck
which read:
CAUTION - MAN WORKING ON MIXER - DO
NOT START ENGINE
4. Lock out supplies are available from McNeilus
Truck and Manufacturing. Call (507) 374-6321
for assistance.
READ, UNDERSTAND, AND FOLLOW THE SAFETY
GUIDELINES, DANGERS, AND WARNINGS LISTED
BELOW AND CONTAINED IN THIS MANUAL TO
PROMOTE RELIABLE OPERATION AND PREVENT
SERIOUS PERSONAL INJURY.

WARNING

Hydraulic hoses, fittings, and pipe must be


inspected on a daily basis for leaks, cuts, abrasions,
damage, aging, improper clearance, and along the
frame for hidden damage. If you find hoses with any
such adverse conditions or damage, they must be
replaced before the mixer is returned to service! In
any event, all hydraulic hoses must be replaced
every two years. Failure to properly inspect and
maintain your mixer may result in serious personal
injury.

WARNING

Hydraulic systems are hot. DO NOT TOUCH!


Serious personal injury may result from hot oil.
When you have completed working on the hydraulic
systems, thoroughly clean any spilled oil from the
equipment. Do not spill any hydraulic fluids on the
ground. Clean any hydraulic fluids from your skin
as soon as you have completed your maintenance
and repairs. Dispose of used oil and filters as
required by law.

Introduction and Safety Procedures

Important Safety Information

WARNING

Hydraulic systems operate under high pressure only experienced persons should attempt repairs or
troubleshooting on hydraulic systems.

WARNING

Correct hoses, fittings, and adapters with the


correct SAE rating must be used when replacing
hoses to prevent possible serious injury. Always
replace hoses, fittings, and adapters with
replacements that have a proper, suitable working
pressure rating. Replacement hoses must be of the
correct length and must comply with the hose
manufacturers installation guidelines and
recommendations. Consult hose and fitting
manufacturers for correct specifications or contact
McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing at (507) 3746321. Hydraulic hoses have the SAE ratings marked
on the hose to assist you in selecting the correct
hose. Any replacement hydraulic hoses and fitting
assemblies must be supplied by the same
manufacturer. As an example: Brand A hose and
brand B fitting will not normally be compatible.
No twist is allowed in the hydraulic hoses.
Twist may result in premature hose failure. Please
contract McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing at (507)
374-6321 for assistance when required.

WARNING

Never remove hydraulic lines, fittings, and adapters


until all pressure has been relieved from the
hydraulic system. Contact McNeilus Truck and
Manufacturing at (507) 374-6321 for assistance if
required.

WARNING

Hydraulic components can be heavy. Use caution


while lifting these components. Serious personal
injury can be avoided with proper handling of the
components.

WARNING

Any hydraulic pipe which is replaced must conform


to SAE J1065 specifications. If incorrect hydraulic
pipe is installed, the hydraulic system may fail.
Damage or leaking pipes must be replaced before
the mixer is returned to service. Please contact
McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing at (507) 374-6321
for assistance.

Introduction and Safety Procedures

WARNING

Do not heat hydraulic pipe. The carbon content of


this steel tube is such that if heated for bending, and
either water or air quenched, the pipe may lose its
ductility and thereby be subject to failure under high
pressure or hydraulic shock conditions. Damaged
or leaking pipes must be replaced before the mixer
is returned to service. Please contact McNeilus
Truck and Manufacturing at (507) 374-6321 if you
require assistance or have questions.

WARNING

All hydraulic pressures must be relieved from the


hydraulic system prior to removing any components
from the system to prevent oil from spraying or
functions and systems from falling. Call McNeilus
Truck and Manufacturing at (507) 374-6321 for
information concerning relieving the hydraulic
pressures.

WARNING

Increasing hydraulic pressure beyond the


recommendations may result in serious damage to
the mixer or serious personal injury. If you have
questions concerning hydraulic pressures or testing
procedures, please contact McNeilus Truck and
Manufacturing at (507) 374-6321 before attempting
the test procedures or making adjustments.

WARNING

When performing hydraulic test procedures, use the


proper hydraulic gauges. Installing an incorrect test
gauge could result in serious injury if the gauge
fails. Use properly rated hydraulic hoses to allow
the test gauge to be read away from moving parts
and functions. Contact McNeilus Truck and
Manufacturing at (507) 374-6321 for assistance.

WARNING

Use the proper tools and equipment when servicing


the hydraulic system. Use only the McNeilus
charging kit when recharging the accumulator. Call
McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing at (507) 374-6321
for assistance, if required.

WARNING

Never operate the hydraulic system if a leak is


present.

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Important Safety Information

WARNING

Never enter under the chassis unless the mixer is in


the Lockout mode. Remember to follow the Lockout
procedures when working under the truck

WARNING

When working on the mixer, the wheels must be


blocked, the parking brake on, Lock Out procedures
in effect, and the keys out of the trucks ignition.

WARNING

The mixer must not be modified in any way without


authorization from McNeilus Truck and
Manufacturing. Modifications may not comply with
safety standards, including ANSI safety standards,
and may result in serious personal injury. Please
contact McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing at (507)
374-6321 if you require assistance.

WARNING

When using the emergency jumper procedure to


rotate the drum on a disabled mixer the following
must be observed: Before removing the hydraulic
motor from the mixer drive on both the operating
and disabled mixer, be sure the drum has been
allowed to turn freely so that it is balanced with no
forces transmitted to the hydraulic motor

WARNING

Daily inspection should be performed on the mixer.


This includes proper operation of the controls,
hydraulics lock out systems, electrical systems,
lighting system including turn signals, back up
alarm, brake lights, clearance lights, head lamps, tail
lamps, safety equipment, and work lights. The
trucks air system must operate properly and have
no leaks. Water and moisture should be drained
from the trucks air system daily. Call McNeilus
Truck and Manufacturing at (507) 374-6321 for
assistance.

WARNING

Do not wear watches, rings, and jewelry while


operating or working with this equipment or its
electrical and mechanical systems. These items can
be hazardous and can cause serious and painful
injuries if they come into contact with electrical
wires, moving parts, or hydraulic equipment.

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WARNING

Use slower speeds when going around curves or


corners. You are carrying a higher center of gravity
load.

WARNING

At the job site use the lowest transmission gear and


proceed at low speed, 3 MPH maximum, to the
discharge area.

WARNING

Always keep hands and feet clear of the mixer drum,


revolving parts, and moving parts while checking
load or washing down the mixer.

WARNING

Do not climb on ladders or ride on platforms while


the truck is in motion or when ladders or platforms
are wet or slippery. Serious personal injury may
result due to a fall.

WARNING

All personnel must stand clear of the chutes during


raising and lowering and when chutes are loaded
with concrete. Position chutes while they are not
loaded. A loaded chute falling on a person may
cause serious injury. All chutes must be handled
with great care to avoid injury. Do not stand on
chutes.

WARNING

Main, foldover, and extension chutes must be


inspected on a daily basis for damage, excessive
wear, proper hardware fit, twist, and overall
condition to determine that they are safe to use. Do
not attempt to repair chutes. Unsafe chutes must be
replaced with new chutes.

WARNING

Optional air chute lock is intended for use only on


the job site. The manual chute lock should always
be engaged during transport. Excessive wear or
injury may result due to improper usage.

Introduction and Safety Procedures

Important Safety Information

WARNING

Do not let persons, other than the driver, handle the


chutes, unfold the foldover, and/or remove
extension, or stow and secure the extensions for
transit. Keep hands away from chute hardware
where the chutes connect. Never stand in the path
of the chute as it is being unfolded or while in use.
Failure to follow the warnings concerning chute
safety may result in serious injury.

WARNING

No passenger must be allowed in the cab unless a


manufacturers approved passenger seat and seat
belt are provided.

Never back up without taking every precaution to be


sure the rear is clear. Check behind truck before
backing up. Watch the mirrors for activity. Never
back up the mixer unless and until you are
completely sure it is safe. Use a spotter/ observer
and/or get out and check yourself to ensure it is safe
to do so.

Wear the proper protective clothing when operating


or maintaining the mixer. Hard hats, safety glasses,
gloves, and safety shoes should be worn. Reflective
clothing is recommended for drivers and
employees.

DANGER

Never drive the truck with the water tank


pressurized.

DANGER

The water tank must be operated at no more than 55


psi.

WARNING

Safety decals must be replaced anytime they are


damaged or missing or cannot be read clearly. If
you require safety decals, please contact McNeilus
Truck and Manufacturing at (507) 374-6321 for no
charge replacement safety decals.

WARNING

Thoroughly understand the controls before


operating the mixer. Be sure everyone is clear of
the area around the truck before operating the
mixer. Remain attentive at all times when operating
the controls.

Maintaining your Mixer Hydrostatic Pump and Motor System

WARNING

The mixer should not be overloaded. Load


pressures must match the load to be transported.

WARNING

WARNING

The mixer and chassis should not be overloaded.


Gross Vehicle Weights must not exceed the
Manufacturers gross vehicle weight of this vehicle.
Gross Vehicle Weights must meet Federal, State,
and Local laws.

DANGER

WARNING

Be sure to maintain correct accumulator charge


pressure for correct and safe operation. Do not
attempt to check or charge the accumulator until
you have read and understand the instructions.
Contact McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing at (507)
374-6321 for assistance.

WARNING

When working on the hydraulic or electrical system


of a Bridgemaster or Tuck-A-Weigh unit the trailer
should be in the down position or chained in the up
position to prevent the trailer from lowering
unexpectedly. Never stand behind the Bridgemaster
or Tuck-A-Weigh when in the up position. If the
Bridgemaster or Tuck-A-Weigh cylinder will not
lower or raise, call McNeilus for assistance at (507)
374-6321 and ask for service.

WARNING

When working on the hydraulic system with the


trailer raised, always chain the assembly to the
upright or retracted position to prevent the
assembly from coming down.

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Important Safety Information

WARNING

Recheck the Hydraulic Down Pressure against the


load to be transported. If their is too much
pressure the truck driving tandem could be
affected by loss of traction. Always set pressure to
the lowest setting when mixer is unloaded. Do not
run with trailer down when the mixer is not loaded.

WARNING

When recharging or checking the charge on the


Bridgemaster or Tuck-A-Weigh accumulator, the
following safety guidelines must be followed:
The cylinder rod must be extended (trailer
on the ground) before the accumulator is
charged.
Do not stand behind the cylinder when
charging the accumulator. The hose on the
McNeilus accumulator charge kit is long
enough to allow the accumulator to be
charged from the side of the mixer.
Do not attempt to disassemble the cylinder.
Use only McNeilus P/N 160.85455
Accumulator Charge Kit.
Purge air from the Accumulator Charge Kit
Hose by allowing a slight flow of nitrogen
to escape while attaching the Accumulator
Charge Kit to the Accumulator Charge
Stem.
The truck ignition key should be removed
while charging the accumulator.
Read these instructions thoroughly before
attempting to charge the accumulator.
Loosen only the top nut of the accumulator
charge stem. If the bottom nut is loosened,
damage to the o-ring seal could result. All
gas pressure must be released from the
accumulator before the accumulator charge
stem can be removed for service.
If you have any questions or experience
difficulty with the cylinder or charging the
accumulator, please call the McNeilus
Service Department at (507) 374-6321.
Were glad to assist!

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DANGER

The trailer should be lowered when servicing the


accumulator. Do not stand behind the cylinder
when charging the accumulator.

WARNING

The trailer pressures must match the load chart


supplied with the mixer. If the pressure is too
great for the load it is possible to raise the rear
chassis wheels of the truck and the operator may
lose control of the unit.

WARNING

Check trailer king pins, toe-in, tie rods, and


components for proper adjustment. Replace any
worn or loose components immediately. Contact
McNeilus at (507) 374-6321 for any specifications
or assistance you may require.

WARNING

With the trailer raised on the return trip, slower


speeds are required when going around curves or
corners as the unit could upset or roll over.

WARNING

Always be sure the area behind the mixer is clear


of people or other obstacles when raising or lower
the trailer.

WARNING

Always check indicator lights in the cab or at


control panel at the front of the mixer for trailer and
chute position. Replace lights or bulbs when
required. NOTE: all models may not have indicator
lights. Physically check position when indicator
lights are absent.

WARNING

Check the tire condition and tire pressure of the


trailer wheels daily to be sure the tires are inflated
to proper pressure to withstand the applied loads.
Do not exceed the recommended tire pressure
marked on the tire sidewalls.

Introduction and Safety Procedures

Important Safety Information

WARNING

Chutes must be completely lowered and centered


before operating the Bridgemaster or Tuck-A-Weigh
trailer. If chutes are not completely lowered and
centered, the trailer may come in contact with the
chutes and severely damage the mixer.

WARNING

If you are not familiar with the Bridgemaster or TuckA-Weigh, do not push or pull switches until you
know what part of the system they will contact and
understand the systems operation.

DANGER

IF THE MIXER COMES INTO CONTACT OR CLOSE


PROXIMITY WITH A POWER LINE OR THERE IS ANY
ARCING, STAY IN THE TRUCK CAB AND KEEP
AWAY FROM THE METAL PARTS OF THE UNIT. DO
NOT LET ANYONE COME CLOSE TO THE TRUCK.
DO NOT ATTEMPT TO JUMP CLEAR OF THE TRUCK.
STAY IN THE CAB. THE POWER MUST BE
DISCONNECTED BY THE POWER COMPANY
BEFORE YOU CAN SAFELY LEAVE THE CAB.
Minimum clearances from power lines:
50,000 Volts or Less...........................................4 Feet
50,000+ Volts ......................................................10 Feet
345,000 - 750,000 Volts ......................................16 Feet
KNOW THE CLEARANCE OF OVERHEAD
OBSTRUCTIONS. NEVER DRIVE THE MIXER UNDER
ANY OVERHEAD OBSTRUCTION WITHOUT
KNOWING THE CLEARANCE HEIGHT. IF UNIT HAS
A FLIP-UP HOPPER, BE SURE HOPPER IS IN THE
LOWERED POSITION. FAILURE TO DO SO MAY
RESULT IN DAMAGE TO THE MIXER BODY OR
TRUCK, AND MAY RESULT IN SERIOUS PERSONAL
INJURY OR DEATH.

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Internal Flo-Fuse
With a continuing emphasis on safety, McNeilus recommends its internal Flo-Fuse. The internal
Flo-Fuse is located on the inside of the McNeilus replacement chute lift cylinder. This protects the
Flo-Fuse from damage and concrete build up. If the Flo-Fuse sees a sudden, abnormal increase
in flow, it will close and stop the cylinder from retracting.
This will stop your chutes.
The internal Flo-Fuse is now standard on all McNeilus
replacement chute lift cylinders for McNeilus Mixers. All
owners of McNeilus Mixers should ensure they have a
McNeilus replacement chute lift cylinder with the internal
Flo-Fuse on each of their McNeilus Mixers.
INTERNAL FLO-FUSE

Update your fleet


Resets automatically
Will not change chute speed
Premium quality
Recommended for all McNeilus Mixers

P/N 200.107625 McNeilus 2-1/2 x 16


Cylinder
Please call McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing
at (507) 374-6321 if you require assistance or
have any questions.

WEATHER-PAK KIT
P/N 9800.620080

10 MICRON FILTER ASSEMBLY


P/N 140.00436

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Internal Flo-Fuse

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Maintaining your Mixer Hydrostatic Pump and Motor System


MAINTAINING YOUR HYDROSTATIC PUMP AND
MOTOR SYSTEM

V. Multiple Viscosity Hydraulic Fluid (MV)


A. Shear Factor
1. Viscosity Index Improver (VIP)

THE HYDRAULIC FLUID


I.

ISO68 - Ambient Less than 80 F

a.

Synthetic Polymer Chain

A. Specifications

b.

Typically Not Shear Stable in High


Pressure Piston Pumps

1. SUS @ 210 F = 55-60

B. High Viscosity Index

2. Viscosity Index = 100 - 120

1. 130 - 150

3. Pour Point = -25 F Average


II. ISO100 - Ambient More than 80 F

VI. Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATF)


A. Should Not Be Used in Hydrostatics on Mixers

A. Specifications

B. Not Shear Stable in High Pressure Piston Pump

1. SUS @ 210 F = 60 - 70

1.

2. Viscosity Index = 100 - 120

High Viscosity Index


a.

3. Pour Point = -5 F to +10 F

170 - 200

2. Tends to Shear to Base Stock Viscosity


III. Recommended Additives

3. Looses Hydrodynamic Film

A. Anti-Rust

4. Not Always Compatible with Hydraulic Fluid

B. Anti-Foam

5. Normally Higher Priced than Hydraulic Fluid

C. Anti-Wear
D. Anti-Corrosion

VII. Water Base Oil


A. Do Not Use in Hydrostatic Systems

E. Anti-Oxidant

B. Shortens Lifetime of Hydrostatics

F. Emulsifier
G. Detergent
IV. Breakdown of Hydraulic Fluid

HOW HOT IS HOT?


I.

Normal Maximum Operating Temperatures


A. Outside Temperature (Ambient) + 100 F

A. Age
1. Changing Hydraulic Fluid
a.

After the first 100 hours in Service

b.

Every six months or 1,000 Hours,


thereafter whichever comes first

B. Heat
1. Breakdown Temperature Varies with Brands
C. The Effects of Breakdown of Hydraulic Fluid
1. Oxidizes
2. Additives Breakdown
3. Varnish Forms
4. Contamination

B. Running Warmer Than Normal


1. Drum Stall
2. Hydraulic Fluid Should Be Changed More
Often
a.

Additive Package Breaks Down

b.

Hydraulic Fluids Ability to Tolerate Heat


Lowers

C. Operating Cooler than Normal


1. Moisture Accumulation
a.

Maximum Moisture = .001%

2. Hydraulic Fluid Should Be Changed More


Often

5. Hydrodynamic Film Cannot be Maintained


a.

The film of oil between moving parts

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D. Filter Buggy (Three Filters Required)

4. Reservoir Breather Cap Installed by


Customer

1. Coarse Filter (Approximately 40 Microns)

a.

2. Fine Filter (Approximately 5 Microns)

10 Micron Required if Sealed Cap is


Replaced

3. Water Filter with Drain.


THE HYDRAULIC HOSE
E. Analyzing Oil
1. Use an Analysis Designed for Hydrostatics
a.

Cleanliness Levels

b.

SUS @ 210F

c.

Moisture Content

d.

Viscosity Index

I.

General Hose Information and Knowledge


A. Ratings
1. Operating Pressure
a.

2. Proof
a.

F. Filtering Oil From Storage Containers


1. Use a 10 Micron Filter
a.

b.

The pressure the hose is designed to \


operate at on a continuous basis

The Operating Pressure X 2 for Test


Purposes

3. Burst

Low Pressure Applications

a.

The pressure at which the hose bursts

1. Mixer Hydro Filter Assembly

b.

Operating Pressure X 4

High Pressure Applications

4. SAE = Society of Automotive Engineers

1. Bridgemaster High Pressure Filter


Assembly

5. DIN = Duetsch International Nominal


6. Mil Spec = Military (Lowest Rating)
B. Hose Outer Covering Considerations

THE RESERVOIR
I.

Unvented Reservoir on Standard Mixer


A. Hydro has an even exchange of oil
B. Chute Lift Cylinder Volume Minimal
1. Cylinder Capacity = .34 Gal
C.

A sealed reservoir is cleaner

D. Thermal Expansion Aids Charge Pump


E.

A Vent is Required if the System Has Large


Cylinders
1. Bridgemaster Requires Vented Reservoir

1. Acid Wash Resistance


2. Synthetic Rubber Covering
C. Twist Factor
1. 7 of Twist per Foot Shortens Hose Life by
95%
D. Hose Shrinkage
1. Anticipate a 4% Shrinkage Factor
a.

2 on a 50 Hose

E. Never Pressure Wash Hoses


F. Inspect Hoses on a Daily Basis
1. Cuts

II. Moisture Accumulation


A. Source of Moisture
1. Condensation
a.

Cool Down of Hydraulic Fluid

2. Induced Moisture
a.

Bad Fitting Reservoir Cap

b.

Washing Hot Reservoir With Cold


Water

2. Leaks
3. Abrasions
4. Damage
5. Improper Clearance
6. Aging
7. Check Along Frames for Damage, Grommets

3. Hydraulic Fluid Not Reaching Operating


Temperature
10

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G. Hose Size = I.D.


1. Dash Sizes in 16th of an Inch
a.

-4 = 4/16 or 1/4

b.

-6 = 6/16 or 3/8

c.

-8 = 8/16 or 1/2

F. Replacement Tubing Must Meet SAE J1065


Rating
1. Coordinates Sidewall Thickness with
Diameter
2. 4130 Cold Drawn Seamless Allow
3. .120 Sidewall Thickness
4. 92 Rockwell Hardness

II. Suction Hose Applications

G. Tubing Size = O.D.

A. SAE100R4 or Equivalent
1. 28 Vacuum

THE SUCTION FILTER

2. 200 PSI Maximum


3. Aeroquip FC310, 2661 or Equivalent

I.

10 Micron ( ) Rating is Required


A. 1 = 0.00003937 Inch

III. Chute Hose Applications

B. Human Hair = 70 Microns

A. SAE100R2 or DIN 20 022

C. Lower Limits of Human Visibility = 40 Microns

1. Minimum Operating Pressure of 3,000 PSI


Required
2. Aeroquip GH781 or Equivalent

D. White Blood Cell = 25 Microns


II. Beta Ratings Required by Eaton
A. B10=2 Minimum

IV. Closed Loop System (Hydrostatic Pump & Motor)

B. B10=4 Better Rating

A. SAE100R12
1. Minimum Operating Pressure of 4,000 PSI

III. ISO Cleanliness Standard

2. GH493 or Equivalent

A. 18/13 Required
1. Particles per ML (1 cc)

THE HYDRAULIC TUBING


I.

General Tubing Information

a.

5 = 2,500 Particles

b.

15 = 80 Particles

A. Ratings
1. Operating Pressure

IV. 10 Inches of Mercury (Hg) Maximum Warm


A. Red Line on Vacuum Gauge

2. Design Factor 4:1


3. SAE = Society of Automotive Engineers

V. Bypass Opens at 20 Inches of Mercury


A. Hydraulic Fluid is Unfiltered in Bypass

B. Should be zinc dichromate plated or primed

B. Filter Must Withstand 20 Inches of Mercury

1. Helps Prevent Rust and Deterioration


C. High Pressure Tubing is -16 (1)

VI. Many Filters Do Not Qualify

D. Return Tubing is -12 (3/4)

A. Incorrect Beta Ratings

E. Inspect Tubing on a Daily Basis

1. B10=2 Minimum

1. Cuts
2. Leaks
3. Abrasions
4. Damage

THE HYDRAULIC FLUID COOLERS


I.

Flow Capacity is Determined by Charge Pump Flow

5. Improper Clearance

A. 1.28 Charge Pump @ 2,000 RPM = 10.5 GPM


@ 95% Efficiency

6. Aging

B. Bypass Valve to Limit Case Pressures

7. Check Along Frames for Damage

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C. Front Mount Cooler


1. 15,670 BTU w/Ram Air (Unobstructed)

A. Standard Charge Pump

2. 2,000 - 4,000 BTU in Stationary Mode

B. Dual Element Charge Pump

D. 12 Volt Fan Cooler


1. 19,000 BTU w/Ram Air
2. 15,000 BTU w/Fan Air
3. Two 12 Volt Sensors for Redundancy
a.

Lower Temp Sensor - 140 F

b.

Higher Temp Sensor - 180 F

4. ZF Mount is Standard
II. Reverse Flushing the Cooler
A. Cooler Must Be Flushed or System Will Be
Immediately Contaminated on Start Up
THE HYDROSTATIC PUMP
I.

IV. Pump Configurations Available (CW or CCW)

Rotation
A. Front Mount Pumps = LH (CCW)
B. Rear Mount REPTO Pumps = RH (CW)
1. Rear Engine Power Take Off

1. Used with Optional Open Center Chute Lift


Block
C. SAE A Pad
1. Bridgemaster
D. 1-3/8 or 1-1/2 Tapered Shaft
V. Displacements
A. 54 Series - Production Pump (5.4 cid)
B. 46 Series and 64 Series (4.6 and 6.4 cid)
1. Available for Resale from McNeilus
VI. Model and Serial Numbers
A. The First Two Numbers of the Model Number
Indicate Displacement
1. Example: 54 = 5.4 cid
B. Next Two Numbers of the Model Number
Indicated Ball Guide or Fixed Clearance Model
1. 2 = Pump
2. 0 = Ball Guide

II. Input Shaft Sizes


A. Production - Approximately January 1997
1. 1-1/2 Tapered Shaft
2. 1350 Series Spicer Drive Line Components
3. Yoke Torque = 320 lb. ft. Minimum
Lubricated

4. P/N 5421-5XX (5 Designates 1-1/2 Shaft)


B. Production - Through 1997
1. 1-3/8 Tapered Shaft
2. 1310 Series Spicer Drive Line Components
3. Yoke Torque = 175 lb. Ft. Minimum
Lubricated
4. P/N 5421-4XX (4 or Lower Designates 13/8 Shaft
III. Relief Valves (Called Clipping Reliefs) in Pump
A. 6,000 PSI Clipping Relief Valves
B. Poppet Style

3. 1 = Fixed Clearance
4. Example:
a.

5421 = 54 Series Fixed Clearance


Model

b. 5420 = 54 Series Ball Guide Model


C. The First Four Digits of the S/N Indicate the
Build Date
1. Example: 1097XXXX = October 1997.
VII. Wet Spline A Pad
A. S/N 0688 and Higher are Wet Spline
1. No Spline Lubrication is Required
B. Lower S/N Must Be Lubricated Every Six
Months or Converted to a Wet Spline
1. Conversion Kit P/N 180.02521
VIII.Control Valves
A. S/N 0986 and Newer Have a New Style
Control Valve Shaft and O-Ring Seal

1. Tend to be Self-Cleaning
2. Cooler Operation
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B. Older Control Valves Can Be Updated With A


New Shaft
1. Shaft P/N 340.12945
2. Seal Kit P/N 100.02468
C. Dust Cover Over Control Valve Shaft On All
Current Control Valves
1. Keeps Cement Dust from O-Ring
D. All Eaton Remanufactured Control Valves
Have All Updates
IX. Charge Pumps
A. Standard Charge Pump = 1.28 cid
B. Gerotor Style

IV. Changing Motor Sizes


A. Installing a Larger Displacement Motor will
Decrease Drum RPM and Increase Torque
B. Installing a Smaller Displacement Motor will
Increase Drum RPM and Decrease Torque
V. Motor Spline Lubrication
A. The ZF 21 Tooth Receptacle Seal is Nicked To
Allow Gear Lube to Fill Cavity Between the ZF
and Motor
1. This allows the motor spline to be
continuously lubricated
2. When changing a ZF drive, the seal must be
nicked at the 9:00 position

1. Gerotor Style Tolerates Vacuum Well


C. Models Available
1. Standard
2. Dual Element
a.

Open Center Chute Lift Block

3. A Pad
D. Rotation Easy To Reverse
E. S/N 0385 and Newer Have Larger Charge
Pump Shaft

VI. Model and Serial Numbers


A. The First Two Numbers of the Model Number
Indicate Displacement
1. Example: 54 = 5.4 cid
B. Next Two Numbers of the Model Number
Indicate Motor and Ball Guide or Fixed
Clearance Model
1. 3 = Motor
2. 0 = Ball Guide
3. 1 = Fixed Clearance

THE HYDROSTATIC MOTOR


I.

4. Example:

Spline

a. 5431 = 54 Series Fixed Clearance Model

A. All McNeilus Mixers have a 21 Spline Motor


Shaft

b. 5430 = 54 Series Ball Guide Model

B. Rexworks = 20 and 23 Spline


C. Smith, Jaeger, CMC = 14 Spline

C. The First Four Digits of the S/N Indicate the Build


Date
1. Example: 1097XXXX = October 1997.

II. High Pressure Relief Valves


A. The McNeilus has no High Pressure Relief on
the Motor (Clipping Relief Valves on the Pump)
B. 5,000 and 5,500 PSI Relief Valves were
Common
III. Displacement Sizes
A. 54 Series Eaton (5.4 cid)
B. 46 Series Eaton (4.6 cid)
C. 39 Series Eaton (3.9 cid)

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DRUM STALL AND INTERNAL LEAKAGE


I.

1. Flush Reservoir and Wipe Clean


2. Reverse Flush the Cooler

Normal Internal Leakage of Hydraulic Fluid

3. Install New and Correct Filters

A. Leakage Cleans, Cools, and Lubricates

a.

B. Normal Leakage at Operating Temperature

4. Flush Hoses and Tubing and Blow Out with


Air

1. Pump = 1 GPM
2. Motor = 1 GPM
C. Charge Pump Capacity @ 600 RPM = 3 GPM
1. Charge Pump Replaces Leakage (Make UP
Fluid)
2. Fluid Not Used for Make Up (Leakage) Aids
Cooling by Dumping Into Pump Case

B10=2 Beta Rating Minimum

D. Torque the Pump Yoke as per Specifications


E. Change Both the Pump and Motor
F.

Install the Correct Hydraulic Fluid

G. Fill the Pump and Motor Case with Hydraulic


Fluid
H. Follow Clean and Flush Procedures

II. Excessive Internal Leakage


A. Wear
B. Wrong Hydraulic Fluid (too thin)
C. Overheated
1. Possible Cooler Problems
a.

Obstructed Air Flow

D. When Leakage Exceeds the Charge Pumps


Capacity for Make Up Fluid the Drum Will Stall
III. Solutions
A. Increase Charge Pump Capacity with Increased
Engine RPMs Whenever Possible
1. Dont Let Engine Idle with a Load of
Concrete While Sitting at Job Sight
a. Use 1,000 or 1,200 rpm if possible while
sitting
B. Hydraulic Fluid with Correct SUS @ 210 F
C. Correct Cooler Capacity
D. Front Mount Coolers w/Clutch Fans
1. Install Fan Kit to Turn Fan On Manually
E. Larger Hydrostatic Motor
1. Additional Torque
F. Update to 12 Volt Fan Cooler System
G. Truck Engine Idle at 600 - 700 RPM
CHANGING HYDROSTATIC PUMPS AND MOTORS
I.

Important Items to Complete


A. Keep Everything Extremely Clean
B. Check the Hoses
C. Flush the System with Diesel or a Flushing Fluid

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Gauge Installation Location

3. Case Pressure Test


Use 0-400 PSI gauge
Normal reading is 40-60 PSI
See step #3 - Checking Case
Pressure

2. Charge Pump Pressure Test


Use 0-600 PSI gauge
Normal reading in neutral is 220 PSI
(approximately 250 PSIG)
Normal reading in charge or discharge is 60 PSI
less than neutral reading
See step #2 - Charge Pressure

1. Vacuum Test
Use 0-30 vacuum gauge
Test at operating temperature
Normal reading should not exceed
10 of vacuum
See step #1 - The Vacuum Check

4. High Pressure Test


Use 0-10,000 PSI gauge
Gauge will read pressure to turn
the drum
Noram reading for an empty drum
will be 500 PSI.
Normal reading for a loaded drum
will be 2,500 - 3,500 PSI
depending on the slump of the
concrete
See step #4 - Checking
Hydrostatic High Pressure

Motor WITH high pressure relief valve


manifold block. (used by McNeilus through
1987) Readings vary with load.

Motor WITHOUT high pressure relief valve


manifold block. (used by McNeilus since
1988) Readings vary with load.

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Troubleshooting Your Mixer Hydrostatic System


Todays new generation mixer pumps and motors are
the result of extensive field testing, customer input, and
the latest technology. They offer greater durability,
increased power density, and greater efficiency. They
also require proper lubrication, filtration, and good
maintenance to deliver the years of service designed
into them. Should a problem develop good
troubleshooting procedures can help you identify and
correct a problem before the problem becomes critical.

Most hydrostatic oil filters have a vacuum gauge which


indicates the amount of vacuum required to draw the oil
through the filter. As the filter becomes contaminated
more vacuum will be required to draw the oil through the
filter media. This filter vacuum gauge will not detect a
problem between the filter and the charge pump. For
this reason a reading is always taken at the charge
pump inlet. A continuous high vacuum reading at the
charge pump inlet will result in pump failure and will
require immediate attention.

Well divide the hydrostatic troubleshooting into four


steps which will cover the test procedures. The area
discussed in this update will be analyzing the vacuum
readings. Upcoming updates will discuss and analyze
the remaining troubleshooting steps.
Gauges, fittings, adapters, and hoses are required to
troubleshoot the hydrostatics. McNeilus markets a hydro
test kit (P/N 260.00483) which includes all of the
required components organized in a portable carrying
case. Contact your local McNeilus branch for details on
the test kit.
STEP #1THE VACUUM CHECK
The charge pump develops the amount of vacuum
required to move the oil from the reservoir to the charge
pump. The normal oil route is from the reservoir, through
the filter, and into the charge pump. Anything that
restricts this oil route will increase the amount of vacuum
required to move the oil to the charge pump. The
amount of vacuum required to move the oil can be
measured with a vacuum-pressure gauge.

McNeilus Hydro Test Kit 260.00483

The vacuum-pressure gauge is installed directly into the


charge pump inlet. Remove the inlet hose and install a
tee fitting into the charge pump inlet. Reattach the inlet
hose to the tee. Plumb the vacuum-pressure gauge into
the tee (see photo #1).
The vacuum reading should be taken when the oil is
warm. Cold oil will require more vacuum and result in a
higher than normal reading. Vacuum is measured in
inches of mercury (HG) rather than pounds per square
inch (PSI) like pressure. A hydro system with a new filter
and everything correct will normally read approximately
two inches or less of vacuum. The maximum allowable
vacuum on a continuous basis is 10 inches of mercury.

Photo 1

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Cause

Remedy

Contaminated oil filter

Install new filter

Suction hose not used

Use SAE 100R4 Spec


suction hose

Obstruction in hose or
reservoir

Remove obstruction

Sharp hose bends


restrict flow

Reroute hose

Oil too heavy

Install proper weight oil

Oil not warmed up

Let system warm up and


recheck

Suction hose too small

Install correct size hose

Fitting ID too small

Install proper fittings

Filter element incorrect

Use 10-micron suction filter

The following areas are common causes of high vacuum


readings:

STEP # 2 - CHARGE PRESSURE


The charge pump is the heart of your hydrostatic
system. If the charge pressure is low or nonexistent, the
hydrostatic pump will not provide the flow to turn the
drum. The duties of the charge pump include:
1. Develop the vacuum to move the oil from the
reservoir through the filter to the charge pump.
2. Provide flow under pressure to the control valve to
allow the servo system to stroke the pump to charge
or discharge modes.
3. Provide cool oil from the reservoir to the pump case
to assist in cooling the hydrostatic system.
4. Provide make up oil to replace oil lost through
normal leakage within the pump.
5. Provide flow under pressure to the rotating group
(piston and slipper assembly) to maintain pressure
and oil flow to the rotating group while the pump is in
neutral.
The charge pump pressure check is easy to perform.
With the truck engine off remove the o-ring plug from the
top of the pump (see photo #2). Normally the control
cable is routed across the area of the o-ring plug and a
90-degree adapter and a short hose from the McNeilus

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Photo 2
test kit is required to clear the cable. A 0 - 400 PSI
gauge should be plumbed to the end of the hose.
BE SURE EVERYONE IS CLEAR OF THE AREA.
Start the truck and warm up the system. The gauge
should read 220 PSI in neutral. The means 220 PSI
(the setting of the relief valve on the charge pump) plus
the pressure in the case of the pump. An example: If
the pump case pressure is a normal 40 PSI your gauge
would read 260 PSI in neutral (220 PSI charge pump
pressure plus 40 PSI case pressure). Remember each
system is unique and the gauge readings may vary
slightly from pump to pump.
When the pump is put into charge or discharge the
charge pump pressure will decrease by approximately
60 PSI. As an example: A 260 PSI reading in neutral
should drop to 200 PSI when the pump is put into
charge or discharge. These gauge readings are normal
and indicate good charge pump performance.
If your charge pump pressure is low check the following
areas:
1. Be sure your vacuum readings are
vacuum readings are high, the pump
receiving the supply of oil required to
pressure to operate the system. (See
vacuum information).

normal. If
may not be
achieve the
Step #1 for

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2. Both the charge pump and motor bolted to the mixer


drive have low pressure relief valves. If your charge
pressure is OK in neutral but low in charge and
discharge positions you probably have a problem
with the motors low pressure relief valve. If your
charge pressure is low in neutral but OK in charge
or discharge your problem will most likely be the
charge pumps low pressure relief valve. The
quickest way to verify this is to exchange the relief
valve cartridge with a known good cartridge from
another mixer.
3. If the pressure is low or non-existent in any control
valve position the charge pump should be removed
and inspected. It should rotate freely. Look for
contamination, excess wear, or broken parts. If the
charge pump is contaminated or has broken pieces
the hydro system will require flushing to remove the
contaminates from the system. If the pressure is low
from a worn charge pump you may be able to
change just the charge pump and continue.
Remember - if the charge pump has enough hours
to be worn out, the pump and motor may be in the
same condition!!
4. If a pump is operating with oil which is too thin or
operating at excessive temperatures, the charge
pump may not be able to maintain the required
pressures especially at low RPMs.

STEP #3 - CHECKING CASE PRESSURE

The hydrostatic pump and motor are designed to have


internal oil leakage. This internal leakage occurs
between the piston and piston sleeve which the piston
travels in, between the slipper and piston where the
slipper is wedged on the piston, and between the slipper
and the swashplate. This normal internal oil leakage
allows the oil to clean, lubricate, and cool as it passes
through these close tolerances. Internal leakage collects
in the motor case and flows out of the motor housing
through a smaller low pressure hydraulic return line to
the bottom of the hydrostatic pump case. The leakage
flows into the pump and joins the internal pump leakage
and other accumulated oil in the pump case. The total
volume of leakage from the motor and pump then pass
out of the top of the pump, flows through the oil cooler
and returns to the oil reservoir.

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It is important that the flow of oil from the motor and


pump cases have a free unobstructed flow to the
reservoir. If anything obstructs this flow of oil, the
pressure required to move the oil increases. Increased
pressure can cause problems with external leakage for
your motor and pump around the shaft seals and control
valve seals - especially if the case pressure approaches
100 PSI.
Checking the case pressures on the hydros is easy! A 0400 PSI gauge is plumbed into the return line hose
which is routed between the top of the hydrostatic pump
and oil cooler. The return line which is plumbed into the
top of the pump should be removed and a tee plumbed
into the line. The gauge is plumbed into the third port of
the tee. (See photo above)
When the hydrostatic system is operating at normal
temperatures, the gauge pressure should read 40 - 60 PSI.
If the pressures are higher than this, the system should be

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checked to determine why the pressures have increased.


Two common causes of high case pressure on mixer
applications are obstructed oil coolers and return lines
which are pinched due to tight radius turns.
Approximately 25 PSI is required to force the oil flow
through the oil cooler. If you case pressure is high, you
simply remove the two return lines from the oil cooler
and join the hose ends with a union. If the case pressure
dropped from a high reading to a low reading (example:
100 PSI with the cooler in the circuit dropping to 20 PSI
with the cooler out of the circuit), the system is telling
you that the cooler is obstructed internally. Most coolers
can be reverse flushed with flushing fluid or diesel fuel to
remove the contaminants. If the cooler cant be properly
flushed it should be replaced with a new cooler
assembly (normally around $100.00). If a return line
hose is pinched, it must be replaced and rerouted if
necessary to eliminate tight bends and turns. A 3/4 ID
return line may have only a 1/4 ID if pinched or in a
bend which is too tight.

forced through the main relief valve generates heat at


the rate of one degree per second for each one
thousand pounds of pressure!
More modern systems with the power limiters in the
pump (used by McNeilus since 1988) allow the pump to
destroke when pressures reach maximum. With the
pump destroked, there is no oil flow to the motor and no
heat is generated in the closed loop circuit.
Checking the high pressure circuit requires a 0-10,000
PSI gauge be installed in the charge circuit port in the
manifold of the motor (see the inset). When the
hydrostatic system is turning the drum, the gauge will
read the amount of hydrostatic pressures required to
perform that function. A typical mixer system will require
around 500 PSI to turn an empty drum and from 2,500 3,500 PSI to turn a drum with a load of mixed concrete.
The lower the slump of the concrete, the harder the
drum turns and the higher the pressures will be. (If you
have a slump meter installed, you already have a high
pressure gauge in the circuit).

STEP #4 - CHECKING HYDROSTATIC HIGH


PRESSURE

Two high pressure relief valves on older style


hydrostatic systems are typically found in the manifold
on the rear of the hydrostatic motor. On later style
systems, the relief valves have been replaced by power
limiter valves which are located on the front of the pump
rather than on the motor manifold. The job of these
relief valves or power limiter valves is to protect the
closed loop circuit and components (including the pump
and motor) from excess hydrostatic pressures during the
charge, mix, and discharge modes or if a problem
develops which would cause the pressures to increase
above the normal limits.
In older systems with the relief valves located in the
motor manifold, considerable heat can be generated if
any significant amount of oil flows through the relief
valves. As an example: a mixer with a drum drive
locked up may prevent the motor from turning. If a
driver placed the controls in charge or discharge, the
pump will send a flow of oil to the motor in an attempt to
turn the drum. Because the drive cant turn the drum,
the high pressure will immediately intensify to the relief
valve setting and force the oil through the relief valve
and back into the circuit. This situation causes
tremendous amounts of heat to be generated in the
hydrostatic system; enough to destroy the motor, hoses,
and the pump if it is allowed to continue. Oil which is

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New Style
Motor Without Manifold
Normal Reading - Varies with Load

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If the drum wont turn and the high pressure gauge


reads low or zero while the pump is delivering oil flow
to the motor, the high pressure relief valve or power
limiter valves may be stuck in the open position and
allowing oil flow with little or no resistance. Remove
the valves and examine them for contamination,
damaged o-rings, etc., and thoroughly clean the
valves with WD-40 or an equivalent product. Normally
the two valves can be interchanged to unload the
drum.
Pressure Gauge for
Checking System Pressure
10,000 psi

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How to use the Fault Logic Charts


These fault-logic charts are designed to help you
troubleshoot problems with hydrostatic pumps and
motors at your location. Find the symptom and follow the
steps shown in the box. The steps are laid out in the
normal logical order, so start at the beginning and work
your way through the steps in the order they are shown.
Each step will have a number shown in the box. These
numbers refer to the action steps listed on the page
following the fault logic charts. As an example: If the
symptom is neutral is difficult to find, the first step is
Inspect Control Linkage. In the box is the number 1.
Turning to the page following the fault logic chart and
looking at action stop number one gives you additional
ideas for items to check. Anytime you have questions or
require assistance, please feel free to call McNeilus
Companies at one of the numbers shown in action step
number 16.

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Troubleshooting Hydraulic Pumps and Motors


NEUTRAL, DIFFICULT OR IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND

Inspect
Control Linkage

Inspect
Control Valve

OK

Call McNeilus for


Assistance

16

Defective

Defective

Repair or Replace

Repair or Replace

MIXER DRUM TURNS IN ONE DIRECTION ONLY

Inspect
Control Linkage

Inspect
Relief Valves

OK

Defective

Defective

Defective

Repair or Replace

Repair or Replace

Repair or Replace

Call McNeilus for


Assistance

OK

16

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Inspect
Control Valve

OK

Neutral, Difficult or Impossible to Find

Inspect Charge
Check Valves

OK

OK

Inspect Shuttle
Valve

4
Defective

Defective

Repair or Replace

Repair or Replace

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SYSTEM RESPONSE SLUGGISH

Check Charge
Pressure

Inspect
Control
Valve

OK
2

12

OK
16

Call
McNeilus
for
Assistance

Defective

Repair or Replace

Low in Neutral

Low in Charge
or Discharge

Inspect Charge
Relief Valve
at Pump

Inspect Charge
Relief Valve at
Motor

13

14
Defective

Repair or Replace

OK

Low in Neutral,
Charge or
Discharge

Inspect
Charge Relief
Valve at Pump

13

OK

Inspect Inlet
Filter

9, 10

OK

Inspect
Charge Pump

15

Defective

Defective

Clogged

Defective

Repair or Replace

Repair or Replace

Replace

Repair or Replace

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SYSTEM OPERATING HOT

Check Oil Level


in Reservoir

Inspect Oil
Cooler

OK

OK

7
Low

8
Defective

Fill to Correct Level

15

Check
Charge
Pressure

OK
12

OK

Defective
Low in Neutral,
Charge or
Discharge

Repair or Replace

Replace

Inspect
Charge Pump

Inspect
External Oil
Cooler Bypass
(If used)

OK

Inspect Inlet
Filter

OK

9, 10

Inspect
Charge Relief
Valve at Pump

13

High in Charge or
Discharge

Inspect Charge
Relief Valve
at Motor

14

Defective

Clogged

Defective

Defective

Repair or Replace

Replace

Repair or Replace

Repair or Replace

OK

16

Call
McNeilus
for
Assistance

Check
System High
Pressure

OK

11
Low

Inspect Relief
Valves

3
Defective

Replace

NOTE: Normal reservoir oil temperature will be outside


(ambient) temperature plus 100F.

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System Operating Hot

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SYSTEM WILL NOT OPERATE IN EITHER DIRECTION

Check Oil Level


in Reservoir

Inspect
Control
Linkage

OK

OK

1
Low

Fill to Correct Level

Inspect
Control
Valve

Defective

Defective

OK

Inspect Inlet
Filter

15

Check
Charge
Pressure

OK

OK

Defective

Repair or Replace

Repair or Replace

Inspect
Charge Pump

OK

OK

Inspect
External Oil
Cooler Bypass
(if used)

Repair or Replace

OK

9, 10

Inspect
Charge Relief
Valve at Pump

13

Low in
Neutral,
Charge
or
Discharge

High in
Charge
or
Discharge

Inspect Charge
Relief Valve
at Motor

14

Defective

Clogged

Defective

Defective

Repair or Replace

Replace

Repair or Replace

Repair or Replace

16

Call
McNeilus
for
Assistance

Check
System High
Pressure

OK

11
Low

Inspect Relief
Valves

3
Defective

Replace

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Diagram Action Steps


1. Inspect control linkage for:
a. Cables out of adjustment, binding, broken, etc.
b. Cables not coordinated with control valve
neutral
c. Arm on control valve slipping on control valve
shaft spline
d. Cable bracket loose or installed incorrectly
2. Inspect control valve for:
a. Plugged control orifice
b. Damaged mounting gasket
c. Misadjusted, damaged or broken neutral return
spring
d. Broken control connector pin
e. Broken or missing control linkage pins
f. Galled, stuck, or contaminated control spool
g. Exchange control valves with a units which
works properly to verify the control valve is at
fault
3.* Inspect relief valves for:
a. Improper pressure relief setting
b. Damaged or missing o-ring and backing ring
c. Plugged orifices
d. Center spool galled, stuck, or contaminated
e. Poppet style relief valve may be stuck open or
contaminated
f. Older style motors have the high pressure relief
valves installed in a manifold on the rear of the
motor. These relief valves can normally be
exchanged from port to port for test purposes
(1987 and earlier on McNeilus mixers).
g. Newer Eaton systems have poppet style high
pressure relief valves (called power limiters)
installed in the pump. These power limiters can
be exchanged from port to port for test purposes
(1988 and newer on McNeilus mixers).
4. Inspect shuttle valve (located on the end of the
motor) for:
a. Bent or broken return centering spring
b. Galled, stuck, or contaminated spool
c. Bent or broken shuttle spool
d. Excess wear

6. Check Oil Level In Reservoir:


a. Follow the manufacturers recommendations
b. Normally oil should be to the sight glass with all
cylinders retracted
c. Do not overfill reservoir
7. Inspect Oil Cooler for:
a. Obstructed air flow from dirt, grease, etc. on the
outside of the cooler
b. Improper plumbing
c. Obstructed oil flow through the cooler; may
require flushing the cooler or a new cooler
8. Inspect External Oil Cooler Bypass (if used):
a. Broken, clogged, or defective bypass valve
b. The McNeilus cooler has an internal bypass
rather than an external bypass
9. Vacuum Hose Should Be Inspected for:
a. SAE 100R4 rating - This hose must be correct
or the internal liner may collapse under vacuum
applications. Pressure hose will not work.
10. Inspect Inlet Filter for:
a. Plugged or clogged filter element
b. Obstructed inlet or outlet
c. Incorrect rating filter (should be 10 micron filter
designed for vacuum applications)
d. High vacuum (10 maximum vacuum when oil is
warm)
11. Check System High Pressure:
a. See the test pages showing gauge installation
and test procedures.
b. An empty drum will normally register
approximately 500 PSI on the test gauge
c. A loaded drum will normally register from 2,500 3,500 PSI on the gauge depending on the load
and slump of the concrete in the drum
d. WARNING: Do not attempt to lock up the
system or prevent the drum from turning to test
high pressure. The result may be serious
damage to the system and serious personal
injury.

5. Inspect Charge Check Valves (located behind


charge pump) for:
a. Damaged or missing o-ring
b. Damaged check ball seat
c. Stuck check ball

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12.*Check charge pressure:


a. Charge pressure is checked by installing a 0600 PSI gauge in the o-ring port on the top of
the pump. See the test pages showing gauge
installation and test procedures.
b. Charge pressure on the Eaton hydrostatic
systems normally reads 240 - 260 PSI on the
gauge when the pump is in neutral. The reading
should drop 60 PSI when the pump is put in
charge or discharge.
c. A minimum reading of approximately 150 PSI on
the gauge is required to turn the drum
13.*Inspect Charge Relief Valve at Pump for:
a. Improper charge relief pressure setting
b. Plugged orifice
c. Spool galled, contaminated, or stuck open or
closed
d. Damaged or missing o-ring
e. Poppet valve held off seat
f. Exchange a known good charge relief valve
from another pump to verify the relief is the
problem
14.*Inspect Charge Relief Valve at Motor for:
a. Improper charge relief pressure setting
b. Plugged orifice
c. Spool galled, contaminated, or stuck open or
closed
d. Damaged or missing o-ring
e. Poppet valve held off seat
f. Exchange a known good charge relief valve
from another pump to verify the relief is the
problem

16. Call McNeilus for Assistance:


a. Call your local McNeilus Branch:
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.

Colton, CA
Commerce City, CO
Villa Rica, GA
Gahanna, OH
Morgantown, PA
Hutchins, TX
Tacoma, WA
Dodge Center, MN

(909)370-2100
(303)287-7486
(770)459-5151
(614)868-0760
(610)286-0400
(972)225-2313
(253)536-0260
(507)374-6321

*Charge Relief Valve and High Pressure Relief Valve


Identification:
The relief valves are factory preset. The pressure code
is stamped on the hex plug located on the end of the
valve cartridge. To determine the pressure setting on the
motor manifold high pressure relief valves, add a zero to
the right of the stamped number (Eaton up to 1987).
1988 and newer high pressure relief valves (power
limiter) located in the Eaton pump are marked internally.
They must be removed to see the number.
Charge Pressure
Relief Valves

High Pressure
Relief Valves

016 = 160 PSI


022 = 220 PSI

500 = 5,000 PSI


550 = 5,500 PSI

15. Inspect Charge Pump for:


a. Broken tang
b. Damaged or missing o-ring
c. Broken drive key
d. Excessive gerotor clearance
e. Galled or broken gerotor set

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Eaton Hydraulic Division, Eaton Hydrostatic Pump - Ball Guide

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Eaton Hydrostatic Pump - Ball Guide

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Eaton Hydraulic Division, Eaton Hydrostatic Pump - F.C.

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Eaton Hydrostatic Pump - F.C.

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Control Valve - Old Style

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Control Valve - Old Style

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Control Valve - New Style S/N 0986 and higher

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Charge Pump Rotation Identification

Ridges are not aligned on body and pump section.

Counterclockwise (LH)
Charge Pump Rotation Identification
(Looking from back of Unit)
(CCW)

Ridges are aligned on body and pump section.

Clockwise (RH)
Charge Pump Rotation Identification
(Looking from back of Unit)
(CW)

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Charge Pump Rotation Identification

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Valve Plate Rotation


PUMP VALVE PLATE FOR
CCW INPUT SHAFT
ROTATION (Lefthand)
Fixed Clearance
54 PV LH Plate
1. Eaton P/N 105103
2. McNeilus P/N 080.025
Ball Guide Units
54 PV LH Plate
1. Eaton P/N 102795
2. McNeilus P/N
080.02447
46 PV LH Plate
1. Eaton P/N 102627
2. McNeilus P/N
080.02442

PUMP VALVE PLATE FOR


CW INPUT SHAFT ROTATION
(Righthand)
Fixed Clearance
54 PV RH Plate
1. Eaton P/N 105102
2. McNeilus P/N
080.02525
Ball Guide Units
54 PV RH Plate
1. Eaton P/N 102744
2. McNeilus P/N
080.02446
46 PV RH Plate
1. Eaton P/N 02626
2. McNeilus P/N
080.02441

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Broken Pump Shaft


The broken shaft coupling end noted on this shaft
indicates a possible improper torquing of the mating
coupling retaining nut. This condition usually is the
result of the torque to turn the shaft being transmitted
through the key and shaft keyway rather than proper
shaft to coupling taper fit.

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Broken Pump Shaft

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Hydrostatic Installation and Clean and Flush Procedures


Contamination (dirt, metal particles, etc.) in fluid of a
hydrostatic transmission is the primary cause of failure.
Before reinstalling a set of hydrostatic transmission
units, the system must be completely free of
contamination.Changing the filter element and fluid is
not enough to thoroughly clean the system. For this
reason, we have derived the following list of procedures
that, when followed step by-step, will help assure
system cleanliness; resulting in longer life for your
hydrostatic transmission components. Remember, it is
desirable that both the hydrostatic pump and motor be
replaced at the same time.
After Determining that the Hydrostatic Units Need to
be Replaced:
1. Drain all fluid from the system at the lowest point.
2. Remove the old hydrostatic pump and motor and
return it to McNeilus.
3. Remove the filter element and reservoir clean-out
door.
4. Check the suction hose for kinks, collapsed or
flaking liner, or any other obstructions. Check the
function of the shut-off if installed. Inspect all other
hose and fittings and replace as required.
5. Check the inside of the reservoir for contamination
(particles of steel or brass, sludge, dirt, etc.) and be
sure the pipe couplings from the reservoir to the
suction hose are not obstructed.
6. Flush all hoses, pipes, tubing, filter housings, and
reservoir with clean kerosene or solvent several
times.
7. Fill all lines, hoses, pipes, etc. with clean kerosene
or solvent and blow out with air pressure.
8. Reverse flush the oil cooler several times with clean
kerosene or solvent and blow out with air pressure.
9. Hand wipe the inside of the reservoir and filler
housing with clean, lint free towels.
10. Clean all hydrostatic pump and motor hose fittings
and replace O rings as required.
11. Replace filter elements, filter gaskets and reservoir
clean-out door gasket.

change. If the new filter doesnt solve the problem,


check for restrictions and proper SAE 100R4 suction
line diameter. Many mixers had a primary filter
internally in the reservoir and a filter assembly
externally mounted in the system. It is our
experience that the internal filter in the tank may be
removed if a 10 micron filter assembly.with correct
by-pass system and capacity is used externally in
the suction line which goes from the reservoir to the
charge pump.
13. Keep all loose hose ends capped after flushing to
prevent contamination from entering the system.
14. Reinstall pump and motor units (on replacement
motors. apply a thin coat of MOLYBDENUM
DISULPHITE grease to the spline to prevent the
motor shaft from seizing to the gear box receptacle).
15. Fill reservoir, hydrostatic pump and motor cases.
hose, lines, etc. with new, clean pre-filtered fluid.
Make certain fluids meet specifications of the
equipment manufacturer or see a fluid
recommendation chart.
16. Be sure to fill the hydrostatic pump and motor cases
before start-up. Proceed with the start-up procedure.
17. Slotted pump yoke nut must be torqued to specs.
CAUTION: Failure to properly torque the slotted
pump yoke nut may result in a broken pump shaft.
REMEMBER, KEEP IT CLEAN!
This includes any oil drums, buckets, transfer pumps,
etc., used to clean and flush the system!
Although these steps will take considerable time to
complete, we at McNeilus feel that they are extremely
important to prevent unnecessary replacements which
result in expense and down time. Remember, we want
you to get the most from your equipment and our
hydrostatic transmission program.
OPERATION RECOMMENDATION
The engine must have at least 600 RPM at idle with a
load in the mixer drum control to rotate the drum at 1-1/2
to 2 revolutions. In cold weather, allow for warm up of
hydraulic oil before charging the mixer.

12. Check the filter vacuum gauge. The vacuum gauge


is normally located on the filter assembly.
Remember the importance of a good vacuum gauge
in the system. If this vacuum reading exceeds 10
inches, the result may be cavitation in the system.
Normally, this indicates a need for an oil filter

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Recommendations for Hydraulic Fluid Specifications

HYDROSTATIC OIL
The following oils are approved for the ISO 100 specification for Eaton Hydrostatics
operating in ambient temperatures in excess of 80 degrees F.:

BRAND
Citgo
Conoco
Drydene
Fina
Kendall
Mobil
Texaco
Unocal

NAME
AW Hyd Oil
Super Hyd Oil 100
4044
AW Hyd Oil
Four Seasons (7384)
DTE10-18M
Rando HD150
UNAX AW

SUS @
210
63
64
65
64
63
71
72.7
65

VI
96
98
102
95
95
120
90
100

POUR
POINT (F)
+5
-25
+5
0
+10
-29
- 5
+10

The following oils are approved for the ISO 68 specification for Eaton Hydrostatics
operating in ambient temperatures less than 80 degrees F.:
Chevron
Citgo
Conoco
Drydene
Fina
Kendall
Mobil
Texaco
Unocal

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Hyd Oil AW
AW Hyd Oil
Super Hyd Oil 68
4034
AW Hyd Oil
Four Seasons (7382)
DTE10-16M
Rando HD68
UNAX AW

Recommendations for Hydraulic Fluid Specifications

54
55
56
54
55
56.0
62
53.5
55.4

99
94
100
105
96
100
120
98
102

-22
-20
-30
-15
-15
-5
-11
-25
-11

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MIXER OIL SPECS


ISO 100 OIL (Over 80 degrees ambient)
SUS at 100 Degrees F.
SUS at 210 Degrees F.
Pour Point
Viscosity Index

544
71
-20 F.
<120

ISO 68 OIL (Less than 80 degrees ambient)


SUS at 100 Degrees F.
SUS at 210 Degrees F.
Pour Point
Viscosity Index

359
62
-30 F.
<120

ADDITIVES RECOMMENDED
Anti-Wear
Anti-Foam
Anti-Rust
Anti-Corrosion
Anti-Oxidant
Emulsifier
Detergent (minimum amount)
The additives are a standard hydraulic oil package for any oil blender.

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Water Tank Measurement


Contact ______________________________________

Date of Order _________________________________

Company Name _______________________________

Phone Number ________________________________

Mailing Address _______________________________

Shipping Address ______________________________

City _________________________________________

City _________________________________________

State ___________________ Zip__________________

State ___________________ Zip__________________

Special Notations ______________________________

Number of tanks wanted ______ Gallon capacity______

____________________________________________

Extra parts needed (example: site gauge kit)

____________________________________________

____________________________________________

____________________________________________

____________________________________________

Steel

Aluminum

(SAMPLE of completed measurements)

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Rear Pedestal Specification Sheet

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Rear Pedestal Specification Sheet

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Fender Measurement
Contact_______________________________________

Date of Order _________________________________

Company Name ________________________________

Phone Number ________________________________

Mailing Address ________________________________

Shipping Address ______________________________

City __________________________________________

City _________________________________________

State ___________________ Zip __________________

State ___________________ Zip _________________

Special Notations_______________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________________________________________________________

PUSHER

A. __________________________________________

G. __________________________________________

B. __________________________________________

H. __________________________________________

C. __________________________________________

I. ___________________________________________

D. __________________________________________

Driver Side

E. __________________________________________

Pair

F. __________________________________________

Steel

Passenger Side

Aluminum

TAG
For Tandem Fenders, Use A, B, C, D, H & G

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Fender Measurement

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Open Center Chute Block

NOTES:
1. TORQUE ALL CARTRIDGES TO 35 FT/LBS.
2. TORQUE COIL NUT TO 10 IN/LBS.
3. COILS ARE 12VDC 20 WATT

Item
1
2
3
4&8
4
5&8
5
6
7
8
9
10

Part No.
520.106591
260.106592
260.106593
260.106594A
260.106588A
260.106595A
260.106587A
260.106596
260.106597
060.85774A
040.106634
040.85743

Description
Chute Block Body Only
Check Valve Cartridge 5 P.S.I.
Relief Valve 2200 P.S.I.
Normally Open Solenoid Valve with Coil (Up)
Normally Open Valve Poppet Only
Normally Closed Solenoid Valve with Coil (Down)
Normally Closed Valve Poppet Only (Screened)
Flow Control Valve (Chute Down Speed)
Check Valve 200 P.S.I.
12-Volt Coil Only
Orifice Plate .062 (Chute Up Speed)
Plug SAE 4

Qty
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
2
1
1

Items #4,5 and 8 refer to the new style coated rectangular solenoid valves. These will replace as an assembly only the old style
poppet and round coils, the coils and poppets from new style to old are not interchangeable. All other parts remain unchanged.

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Open Center Chute Block

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Open Center Chute Valve Assembly

Hold position

Note: Use only McNeilus Chute Lift Cylinders


with Internal Flo-Fuse.

Chute Lift Cylinder


2 1/2 x 16
200.107620

N.C. Valve Assy. (CEC)


w/12V. Coil
260.106595A

)(

N.C. Cartridge Only


(CEC)
260.106587A
12 V. Coil Only (CEC)
060.85774A

Pressure Compensated
Flow Control
260.106596

Normally Closed
Solenoid Valve
Energize to lower

200 P.S.I. Check


260.106597
5 P.S.I. Check
260.106592

)(
N.O. Valve Assy (CEC)
w/ 12 V. Coil
260.106594A
N.O. Cartridge Only
(CEC)
260.106588

.062 Orifice
040.106634

Normally Open
Solenoid Valve
Energize to raise

12 V. Coil Only (CEC)


060.85774A

Relief Valve
2200 P.S.I.
260.106593
T

A Revisions made in 1991 with CEC weather resistant coils (rectangular,


rubber coated) and heavier valve assemblies. Previously used round metal
sheated coils. The valve assemblies are interchangeable, the individual
pieces are not.

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Raise Pressure
Return Pressure
Open Center Chute Valve Assembly

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Open Center Chute Valve Assembly

RAISE POSITION

Note: Use only McNeilus Chute Lift Cylinders


with Internal Flo-Fuse.

Chute Lift Cylinder


2 1/2 x 16
200.107620

)(
N.C. Valve Assy.
w/12V. Coil
260.106595A
N.C. Cartridge Only
260.106587A

Pressure Compensated
Flow Control
260.106596

Normally Closed
Solenoid Valve
Energize to lower

12 V. Coil Only
060.85774A

200 P.S.I. Check


260.106597
5 P.S.I. Check
260.106592

)(
N.O. Valve Assy
w/ 12 V. Coil
260.106594A

.062 Orifice
040.106634

Normally Open
Solenoid Valve
Energize to raise

N.O. Cartridge Only


260.106588
12 V. Coil Only
060.85774A

Relief Valve
2200 P.S.I.
260.106593
T

Lowering Pressure
Return Pressure

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Open Center Chute Valve Assembly

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Open Center Chute Valve Assembly

LOWER POSITION

Note: Use only McNeilus Chute Lift Cylinders


with Internal Flo-Fuse.

Chute Lift Cylinder


2 1/2 x 16
200.107620

)(

Pressure Compensated
Flow Control
260.106596

N.C. Valve Assy.


w/12V. Coil
260.106595A

Normally Closed
Solenoid Valve
Energize to lower

N.C. Cartridge Only


260.106587A
12 V. Coil Only
060.85774A

200 P.S.I. Check


260.106597
5 P.S.I. Check
260.106592

)(
N.O. Valve Assy
w/ 12 V. Coil
260.106594A
N.O. Cartridge Only
260.106588

.062 Orifice
040.106634

Normally Open
Solenoid Valve
Energize to raise

12 V. Coil Only
060.85774A

Relief Valve
2200 P.S.I.
260.106593
T

Hold Pressure
Return Pressure

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Open Center Chute Valve Troubleshooting


Symptom

Cause

Remedy

Chute drifts down

1. 200 PSI check leaks

Install new valve

2. Normally closed solenoid valve


stuck open or leaks

1. Install new valve


2. Correct electrical

Chute drifts up during


transport

5 PSI check leak

Replace valve

Chute will not raise

1. Normally open solenoid valve


stuck closed

1. Replace valve
2. Check electrical

2. Normally closed valve stuck open

1. Replace valve
2. Check electrical

Chute will not raise with


full load

Relief valve pressure set too low

Adjust with gauge to 2200 PSI

Chute will not lower

Normally closed valve stuck

1. Replace valve
2. Check electrical

Chute lowers too fast


or too slow

Flow adjustment not correct

Adjust down speed valve screw out to


slow down or screw in to speed up

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Maintenance Periodic Inspection

**

* Change oil after first 100 hours. Thereafter change every six months. Capacity: fill to check plug or
site glass. Change every 1000 hours or six months thereafter.
Service ZF twice annually with 85W-140 GL5 Spec. 85W-140 can be used year round.
* NOTE: Trans. hold down bolts previous S/N 14669 had 3/4 bolts that were torqued to 310 lbs. Now S/N 14669
has 7/8 bolts that are torqued to 420 lbs.
**Call McNeilus for additional oil or filter information at (507) 374-6321.
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Maintenance Periodic Inspection


DAILY INSPECTIONS
1. Hydraulic hoses, fittings, and pipe must be
inspected on a daily basis for leaks, cuts, abrasions,
damage, aging, improper clearance, and along the
frame for hidden damage. If you find hoses with any
such adverse conditions or damage, they must be
replaced before the mixer is returned to service! In
any event, all hydraulic hoses must be replaced
every two years. Failure to properly inspect and
maintain your mixer may result in serious personal
injury.
2. Visual roller track and roller alignment check. Check
for snapping or popping noises while drum is
turning.
3. Check oil level in hydraulic reservoir. Add oil if
below sight gauge level with all cylinders retracted.
Use correct oil.

4. Check filler cap and neck on oil reservoir for leaks.


Check oil reservoir mounts. Make any necessary
repairs immediately.
5. Check and record drum RPM while loading mixer
with concrete and truck engine running at top
governed RPM. If drum revolution is 2 RPM less
than that recorded at previous check, see manual
for component check out.
6. Check inside of drum for concrete build up and
clean as required.
7. Check mounting bolts for proper tightness.
8. Check ZF transmission drive plate bolts. Torque to
170 lb ft.
9. Check ZF transmission hold down bolts. Torque to
420 lb. ft.

4. Start engine and warm up hydraulic system with


truck engine at approximately 1,200 RPM and mixer
drum turning at approximately 2 RPM. Warm up
time minimum is 5 minutes.

10. Inspect debouncer for proper clearance.

5. Check vacuum gauge on oil filter. Replace element


if the reading exceeds 10 inches of vacuum after oil
has reached operating temperature.

SIX MONTH INSPECTION

6. Check for and correct any external oil or air leaks.


NOTE: Do not tighten or loosen any connections
while system is under pressure.
7. Lubricate pump drive shaft universal joints.
8. Lubricate roller bearings.

11. Inspect roller track for cracks, flat areas. Correct as


necessary.

1. Change hydraulic oil and install new hydraulic oil


filter(s). Remove filters and check for metal
particles. Replace filter(s) with correct part number
filter. Use the correct hydraulic oil as per McNeilus
specs. Check with McNeilus before using any
alternate hydraulic oil or filters. Multiple Viscosity
oils and Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATF) cannot
be used in the hydraulic system.
2. Lubricate control cables using the McNeilus Cable
Lube Kit.

9. Lubricate and inspect rear cable control box.


10. Lubricate chute pivot system and inspect chutes and
chute hardware for wear or damage.
WEEKLY INSPECTIONS
1. Check pump drive shaft cap screws for proper
tightness.
2. Lubricate complete mixer per lube chart supplied with
mixer.
3. Draw sample of oil from reservoir and check for
presence of water. If water is present, the oil may
be milky in appearance. Milky oil should be drained
from the system and replaced and the source of the
water entry found and corrected.
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Maintenance Periodic Inspection

3. On Bridgemaster systems check the indicator gauge


on the high pressure filter when the system is warm
and the Bridgemaster Trailer is actually moving
down (if the trailer is not moving, the indicator will
not read).
4. Service the ZF transmission. The lubricant should
be drained while the ZF drive is hot. 85w-140 with a
GL5 spec is the proper lubricant. Do not overfill the
drive. Proper oil level is to the bottom of the sight
glass.
5. Inspect mixer main hold down bolts and springs.
Replace or adjust as required.

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Roller Adjustments
Drum Roller:

Roller Alignment:

Each drum roller is equipped with two tapered roller


bearings. Seals are provided to exclude water and dirt. If
it becomes necessary to replace the bearings, the
assembly must be thoroughly cleaned before installing
the new bearings. Pack the bearings with the
recommended lubricant. (See lube chart).

Drum rollers must run parallel (in line) with roller track.
Rollers are to be set by using a minimum 12 long
straight edge, with one knife edge. Working from both
sides of rear face of roller, straight edge is to match with
chamfer on roller track (see below).

To take up bearings, tighten nut until roller cannot be


turned by hand, then back off until roller turns with slight
drag.

Face contact of track and roller is to be flat, no light


showing through contact under rated load.

Unloaded Drum Roller Alignment:


Maintain a space of .012 to .015 by shimming under
either side of roller bracket (see right).

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Universal Drive Shaft


After the universal drive shaft has been assembled to
the engine and pump, be sure that the following
conditions exist:
a. The drive shaft joint are in phase (See Below)
b. The slip joint spline has ample engagement and that
at least 3/8 of clearance exists between the end of
the male spine and the bottom of the female spline.
(See Below)

Misaligned

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Universal Drive Shaft

CAUTION: If the yoke (00700) nut is not properly


torqued to 175 ft. lbs., drive shaft failure may occur. In
most universal drive shaft installations, a slight
misalignment between driving and driven members is
desirable but in no instance should the angle of the
universal drive shaft between joints and the shaft
centerline of the driving or driven member exceed 6.
(See Pump and Universal Alignment)

Aligned

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ZF Drum Drives
ZF was founded in 1915 by Count Zeppelin (the airship
Zeppelin) and is the worlds leading manufacturer of
transmission systems including axles and steering.
McNeilus Companies has used ZFs Drum Drive since
the 1970s. Since that time several models of the ZF
have been developed and put into production. Over the
years the torque rating of the ZF has continually
increased to meet the demands of larger capacity mixer
drums and lower slump concrete.
The ZF drive is a double planetary reduction drive. The
input rpm (where the motor is mounted) is reduced to the
output rpm (the flange that bolts to the drum) by the ratio
of the drive. As an example, if the ratio is 144:1, the
flange rotates once for every 144 turns of the motor.
This reduction is accomplished through planetary gears
which rotate around a sun gear. There are two sets of
planetary gears which accomplish the reduction.
Planetary gears are very efficient and cool running. The
drive is around 96% efficient meaning only 4% of the
input energy is used by the drive. This compares to 80%
efficiency for many of the straight gear reduction drives.
Servicing the ZF drive is critical to the overall lifetime of
the drive. The proper lubricant for the drive is 85W-140;
the same lubricant commonly used in differentials. The
spec of the lubricant is GL-5. This lubricant is available
from nearly any oil distributor.
It is important that the ZF be serviced after the first 100
hours in service. The drive should be drained while the
lubricant is warm. This 100 hour period is considered the
clean up lubricant change for the drive. Any
contamination which washes from the new castings,
bearings, gear wear-in, etc. can be drained at this time.
After the initial service the drive should be serviced every
six months or 1,000 hours; whichever comes first.
Remember that the drive has a positive pressure within
the case. The drive design allows a minimum amount of
internal pressure to develop as the lubricant and drive
warm up. This positive internal pressure helps prevent
contamination from entering the internal drive
components. This internal pressure also means that
caution must be used when removing any fill plugs from
the drive while the drive is warm. Safety glasses must be
worn while servicing the ZF drive. Even though the
internal pressure is minimal, the fill plug may want to
blow from its port and spray lubricant from the port.
Loosening the four hydrostatic motor mount bolts and
then loosening the hydrostatic motor will normally relieve
any pressure in the ZF drive. Any excess pressure
developed in the drive is normally relieved by the output
flange seal.
The hydrostatic motor is bolted to the input of the drive.
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The hydrostatic motor has a shaft seal which prevents


the hydraulic fluid in the motor from leaking around the
motor shaft under pressure. If this motor shaft seal
leaks, hydraulic oil and pressure can transfer from the
motor case to the ZF drive case. There is also an input
seal in the ZF input cavity around the splined receptacle.
This ZF seal is nicked at the factory in the 9:00 or 3:00
oclock position. The nick allows the ZF lubricant to leak
from the drive and lubricate the spline on the motor shaft
and ZF splined receptacle. Without this lubrication, the
motor spline and ZF receptacle will wear prematurely.
Because this seal is nicked, there will normally be 85W140 lubricant in this cavity. The hydraulic fluid in the
motor case is quite thin compared to the ZF lubricant.
Also the ZF lubricant has its own strong odor. If there is
hydraulic fluid in this cavity, the motor seal is leaking.
Anytime the drive is overfilled - either from servicing the
drive or from a leaky hydrostatic motor seal - the excess
lubricant will exit the drive around the output flange seal
and show up on the drum head. This seal is a heavy
rubber lip seal which is quite strong. It is our experience
that a leaky ZF output seal is generally an indication of a
faulty motor seal or overfilled drive rather than a faulty ZF
output seal. The seal cavity also holds a quantity of
lubricant and may take two or three weeks for the
lubricant around the seal cavity to dry up. Changing the
seal is a difficult job which requires a 60 ton press. The
seal is one of the last items to come out of the drive
when it is completely disassembled. Never assume this
heavy rubber lip seal is faulty. It normally only leaks only
when the drive is overfilled. A ZF Repair Manual is
available from McNeilus if you are planning on working
on the drive.
When changing the ZF drive it is important to retain the
flange in its normal centered position that it is in when the
drive is mounted on the mixer. Allowing the weight of the
output flange to put its weight on the output seal may
damage the seal; especially if its left in that position for
any length of time. For this reason a bracket with a 90
bend should be fabricated. One end of the bracket
should be bolted to the flat on top of the drive and the
other to the flange. This bracket is especially important
when storing a ZF drive for any length of time.
There are flange bolts around the output flange which
secure the drive flange to the mixer drum socket. The
flange bolts should be torqued to 170 lb. ft and checked
on a weekly basis. There are threaded holes in the ZF
flange which are unused. When removing the ZF flange
from the drum socket, bolts can be threaded into these
extra threaded flange holes around the flange and
pressure applied from the flange to the drum socket by
tightening the bolts. This will help separate the ZF
flange from the drum socket. The bolts work like a
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puller to help separate the flange from the drum socket.
Heat may have to be applied to the flange and drum
socket area to separate the flange from the drum socket.
Normal maintenance of the ZF drive includes checking
the torque of the mounting bolts. Its important to check
these mounting bolts that hold the ZF drive to the front
pedestal on a weekly basis. Acid wash and moisture can
get into the area where the six bolts pass through the ZF
mount and pedestal. Over a period of time the bolts can
deteriorate in these areas of the ZF drive mount and front
pedestal which cant be readily seen or inspected. If a
bolt has deteriorated, it will break when torqued. If one
bolt breaks, all six should be replaced as all mounting
bolts should be considered to be in the same condition.
If only one bolt comes loose, the ZF drive mount may
crack. Should this happen, the entire drive will have to
be replaced. The correct bolt for the application and
which is installed at the factory is a Bowman product
called Bowmalloy. This Bowmalloy bolt is a Special
Ultra Hi-Strength Alloy Steel Quenched and Tempered
Bolt. The proof load of this bolt is 165,000 psi and the
tensile strength is 185,000 psi. No lesser bolt can be
installed in this ZF mount application! This Bowmalloy
bolt is readily available locally or from the McNeilus
branches (McNeilus P/N 020.100990).
If your mixer is S/N 14,669 or previous, the ZF mount
bolts will be a 3/4 bolt and should be torqued to 310 lb.
ft. If your mixer serial number is 14,670 or higher, the ZF
mount bolts will be a 7/8 bolt and should be torqued to
420 lb. ft.
Please call your McNeilus branch or McNeilus Truck and
Manufacturings Corporate Headquarters at 507-3746321 if you require assistance with the ZF drive or have
questions. Were glad to help.

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Fluid Power Equivalents


EXACT EQUIVALENTS:

APPROXIMATE EQUIVALENTS

1 US Gallon = 231 Cubic Inches

1 Fluid Oz. (volume) = 600 drops of oil

1 Bar at Sea Level = 14.504 psi

1 Cubic Inch = 330 drops of oil


1 Cubic Centimeter (cc) = 6 drops

1 Horsepower = 33,000 Ft. Lbs. per Minute


= 2545 BTU per hour
= 746 Watts or 0.746 kw

1 Gallon = 3,785 Cubic Centimeter (cc)


1 Oz. = 28.4 Cubic Centimeter (cc)

1 PSI

=
=
=

2.0416 Hg
27.72 Water
.0689 Bar

Area of a Cylinder = Diameter Squared X .7854


Force = Area X Pressure

1 HG = 0.490 PSI
= 1.131 Ft. Water
1 Atmosphere

= 1.013 Bars
= 29.921 HG
= 14.696 psi

Cylinder Volume = Area x Stroke 231


Pump Flow = Displacement x RPM 231
Horsepower = Flow X Pressure 1714
BTU's per Hour = Horsepower x 2545

1 Foot Water Column = 0.432 psi


Torque (In./Lb) = Horsepower x 63025 RPM
1 Foot Oil Column = 0.354 psi
Torque in Ft./Lb = In./Lb 12
1 Barrel of Oil = 42 Gallons
1 Micro-Meter = 1 Millionth of a meter

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Common Abbreviations
15P: Parker Bridgemaster Filter
30P: Parker Bridgemaster Filter (older style)
2W2P: Two Way - Two Position (common cartridge)
3W2P: Three Way - Two Position (common cartridge(
3W3P: Three Way - Three Position (common spool valve)
4W3P: Four Way - Three Position (common spool valve)
40CN: Parker Packer Return Line Filter
: Delta
A-PAD: SAE Standard Pad for Mounting Pumps
A-SPLINE: SAE Spline - 5/8x 9 Tooth
AISI: American Iron and Steel Institute
ANSI: American National Standards Institute
ASL: Automated Side Loader
ASME: American Society of Mechanical Engineers
ASTM: American Society for Testing Materials
B-SPLINE: SAE Spline - 7/8x 13 Tooth
BTU: British Thermal Unit
CB: Counter Balance
CCI: Cylinder City, Inc.
CEC: Component Engineering Company
CFM: Cubic Feet per Minute
CIC: Commercial Intertech Company
C PAD: SAEC Pad Mount
C-SPLINE: SAE Spline - 1-1/4 X 14 Tooth
CC: Cubic Centimeters
CD10: Muncie PTO
CID: Cubic Inch Displacement
CCW: Counterclockwise (also LH)
CW: Clockwise (also RH)
CYL: Cylinder
DA: Double Acting Cylinder
DE: Dual Element
EOS: Electronic Overspeed
E-STOP: Emergency Stop
FE: Full Eject
FEL: Front End Loader
FF: Flow Fuse
GPM: Gallons Per Minute
GVW: Gross Vehicle Weight
GW: Gross Weight
HOC: Hydraulic Overspeed Control
HP: Horsepower
HPRV: High Pressure Relief Valve
IFI: Industrial Fasteners Institute
ISO: International Standards Organization
J20A: John Deere Oil Spec
JDM: John Deere Motorworks (oil specs)
LCD: Liquid Crystal Display
LED: Light Emitting Diode
LH: Left Hand (counterclockwise)
LORV: Lock Out Relief Valve
LPM: Liters per Minute
LPRV: Low Pressure Relief Valve
MF: Motor with Fixed Swash Plate
MIL: Military Specification
MM: Millimeter
MRV: Main Relief Valve
MS: Military Standard
MSL: Manual Side Loader
NEMA: Weatherproof Rating
NC: Normally Closed

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N-M: Newton Meter


NO: Normally Open
NPT: National Pipe Taper
NPTF: National Pipe Taper Fuel
OEM: Original Equipment Manufacturer
ORS: O-Ring Seal
PFD: Priority Flow Divider
PTO: Power Take Off
P/N: Part Number
PV: Pump with Variable Swash plate
REGEN: Regeneration
REL: Rear Loader
RH: Right Hand (clockwise)
RPM: Revolutions per Minute
RV: Relief Valve
SA: Single Acting Cylinder
SAE: Society of Automotive Engineers
SE10: Mixer Hydro Filter
SUS: Saybolt Universal Seconds
TELE: Multi-Stage Telescopic Cylinder
TG: Tailgate
TVS: Transient Voltage Spike
UNC: Unified National Coarse Threads (bolts)
UNF: Unified National Fine Threads (bolts)
VA20: Commercial Intertech Spool Valve - 40 GPM
VA35: Commercial Intertech Spool Valve - 70 GPM
VI: Viscosity Index
VIN: Vehicle Identification Number
VIP: Viscosity Index Improver
WPRV: Work Port Relief Valve

Common Abbreviations

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Index
10 Micron Filter Assembly, ............7, 37

Open Center Chute Valve Assembly,


......................................................45-47

A- B-C
P-Q-R
Accumulator Charge Kit, ....................5
adapters, ......................................2, 17
air chute lock, ......................................3
air leaks, ............................................50
ANSI, ............................................3, 57
Automatic Transmission Fluid, ......9, 50
blocking devices, ................................1
Bridgemaster, ..........4-6, 10, 12, 50, 57
Broken Pump Shaft, ....................36-37
Charge Pump, ................10-15, 17-19,
..........................................25-29, 34, 37
Charge Pump Rotation, ....................34
Charge Relief Valve, ..............25-27, 29
Check Valve, ..............................24, 44
contamination, ............9, 19, 21, 37, 54
D-E-F
debouncer, ........................................50
Diagram Action Steps, ................28-29
electrical, ....................................3-4, 48
extension chutes, ................................3
External Oil Cooler Bypass, ........26-28
fault-logic charts, ..............................23
Fender, ..............................................43
G-H-I
high pressure, ..............2, 9-11, 13, 15,
..............................20-21, 26-29, 50, 57
Hydraulic Down Pressure, ..................5
hydraulic fluid, ..........1, 9-11, 14, 38-39,
..........................................................54
Hydraulic Fluid Specifications, ....38-39,
..........................................................59
Hydraulic hoses, ........................1-2, 50
hydraulic pipe, ....................................2
Hydrostatic Installation, ....................37
Hydrostatic Pump, ................4, 6, 9-14,
....................................18-19, 30-31, 37

Periodic Inspection, ....................49-50


power limiters, ............................20, 28
proper protective clothing, ..................4
Pump and Universal Alignment, ..52-53
Raise Position, ..................................46
Rear Pedestal, ..................................42
Roller Adjustments, ..........................51
Roller Alignment, ........................50-51
roller track, ..................................50-51
S-T-U
SAE J1065, ..................................2, 11
Safety, ........................................1-7, 54
tapered roller bearings, ....................51
trailer, ........................................4-6, 50
transmission, ................3, 9, 37, 50, 54
Troubleshooting, ..........2, 17-21, 24-27,
..........................................................48
Tuck-A-Weigh, ................................4-6
universal drive shaft, ........................52
V-W-X-Y-Z
vacuum gauge, ........11, 15, 17, 37, 50
Vacuum Hose, ..................................28
Valve Plate Rotation, ........................35
Water Tank Measurement, ..............41
ZF Drum Drives, ..........................54-55
ZF transmission, ..............................50

J-K-L
kit, ............2, 5, 7, 12-14, 17-18, 41, 50
Lock out, ..................................1, 3, 57
Lower Position, ................................47
M-N-O
Main, ................................3, 20, 50, 57
McNeilus Cable Lube Kit, ..................50
mixer drum, ................3, 24, 37, 50, 54
Molybdenum Disulphite, ....................37
o-ring, ..............5, 12-13, 18, 28-29, 57
oil, ....................1-2, 9-10, 17-21, 26-28,
........................37-39, 49-50, 54, 56-57
Oil Level, ................................26-28, 50
Open Center Chute Block, ................44
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