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PART 1
ISLAM is not a terrorist religion , but it faced terrorism from inside and
outside. Terrorism is the worst kind of Heresy. Such a Heresy does contradict
Orthodox Isla:m.
The third Caliph Usman was first to face the terrorism from inside.The
insurrectors, some of them latter became the most terrorist sect in the
history of Religious History namely Kharjites terrorized Muslim world for
centuries after.
But there were some monarchs who became a symbol of terrorism for the
Orthodox Islam such as Mamu:n Ar Rahid[], Akbar Son Of Humaiun: etc.
Mamu:n was a liberal to all the religions of the world with the Exception of
Orthodox Islam, and Akbar was liberal to all the religions except Islam [not
just Orthodox sect of Islam].
We come to the worst period of Muslim History when the Mutazilite
Liberalists tried to use the Imperial Power against the Orthodox Islamic sect
called Sunnism. After Mamun Al Mut-sim was an other person who
continued brutality and injustice to Orthodox Islam.
The story begins with the question := Whether Quran is a Creation Of Deity
[ALL-H]?.
This is a corollary of a fundamental questions:= (Q1)Doeth Deity Possess
Attributes of Perfection like Power, Life etc?.(Q2)Are Divine Attributes
Creation Of Deity?
Consider the following conundrum .
If The Deity is Attributeless then The Deity Ceaseth to be Deity. Since in this
case Deity is Powerless, Knowledgeless, Sightless, Willless, Speechless etc.
Deity is Imperfect Being In this case which contradicts the basic Axiom of all
Semitic religions that Deity is the Perfect Being.
If Deity Possesseth Attributes Of Perfection then:=
Either they are Eternal or Not. If they are not Eternal then this means in the
Eternity Deity Was Powerless, Knowledgeless etc. If they are Eternal then:=
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Either they are Identical to the Deity or they are Distinct From the Deity.
In the first case the Divine Self is implied to be Plural as well as Singular. This
implies that Divine Self i.e Deity is Identical to plurality and Singularity. This
is Absurd ,Surd and Impossible. If they are Distinct From Divine Self then this
is Analogous to Christian Trinity ,rather Polynity since the number of Eternal
Attributes is greater than the number three.
Mutazalah took a position that they denied All the Divine Attributes yet they
claimed that they believe that Attributes are Identical to the Divine Self i.e
Deity. This claim was never checked and for a long time Identity and Denial
of Attributes were considered as a Tautology. But the dogma of Identity Of
Attributes doeth have its own problems. Majority of Ahlussunnah rejected
this dogma.
They make is clear that an Attribute is neither a Substance nor it is Parse
Subsistence, and it Existeth in Divine Essence not included in the Essence
but Associated With the Divine Essence i.e Divine Self. That is why An
Attribute Of Deity is not a Hypostasis Of Athanasian Christianity. A Hypostasis
is a Per Se Subsistent even if it is not a Substance. How ever Mutazilah were
unable to distinguish between a Per Se Subsistent Hypostasis and an
Attribute Which Is Associated With the Divine Self i.e Essence.A lesser
number of Asharites and Maturidites believe that Attributes of Deity
areIdentical to Deity ,but they make a distinction between in the Dogmas of
Identity of Attributes and denial of Attributes.
But in the time of Imam Ahmad Bin Hanbal Sunnites system of Theology did
not use Philosophical terms in order to convey their beliefs. Great Sunni
Theologians like Imam Ashari, Imam Maturidi, and Sulfites Philosophers were
not born yet. We return to the time of Imam Ahmad to see what was the
Religious situation.
All the Muslims believe that Quran is the Divine Attribute Of Speech except
Jahmites. Mutazilah who disbelieve in Divine Attributes began to believe that
Quran is a Creation. There this belief was rejected by all fractions of Sunnism
[Ahlussunnah Wal Jamaaah] alike.
The first one were to face Mutazilah were Muhaddisun and Fuqha.The hero
of our Story is IMAM AHMAD BIN HANBAL. He was the leader of both Sunni
Fractions. The problem begin when a liberal Monarch who like Mutazilah who
was liberal to all religions and all sect became a symbol of terrorism to
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reconstruct the past at it is in the book. Further the proper order in the
events are not found with certainity and certitude. That is why the best thing
is to use the probable approach to suggest their order. With addition of some
more works one can approach to the past if not with certainity then with a
good probability.
Further I have tried to add some fictious additions to make a continuity in
the series of events which were lacking as according to my limited
knowledge. Such additions do not have any historical value in the least sense
but with out them it is impossible to fill the gaps of available Matterials.
Some explanations are ascribed in dialogues which may not be found in
works of history. Some statements are added to make the theological
responses as clear as possible which may not be known to English readers
and audiences.
But the Essence and the Substance of the events are attempted to be
conserved .For some technical reasons I have used the secondary sources
prior to the primary Sources . How ever they were latter tested.
At times the capitalization of first letter of nouns ,pronouns, verbs, adjectives
prepositions etc are exercised in case of Deity ,and Honorable Persons,
specially for Hanbal Himself. One may call It Capitalization of majesty. Also at
times block letters are also used either for more emphasis then normally
used of for greater majesty. Different colours are used , for different reasons.
How ever this work is not a historical work , so it is not the responsibility of
the author to
Be faithful to the canonical history works of Imam. The author hath taken
liberties and combined it with imaginations as well. It may be even
interesting to those who are interested in theological discussions.
The word Deity is used instead of the most common word for Supreme Being.
I think this word can convey a number of implications which the well known
word cannot. One may differ yet an author must write what he thinketh to be
the best.
The language is not so old yet the words thou etc and its relative verbs are
used to give an old look in the dialogues. Similarly for the verbs relative the
third person singular nouns th is used instead of common singular used
now a days. I do think it is necessary to understand the situation of the past.
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The Noun Of Christos or Messeiah which is used is Iesous. I have neither used
Arabic Form I:sa: nor English form Jesus but the Greek form Iesous.
Some time colours are used to shew differences of emphasis and
explanations of situations.
I have not accepted Mutazalahs reports about the events of trial,since they
are not canonical but apocryphal ,hence unreliable, untrustworthy ,and
unauthorative. Mutazalah were not men of the field of conserving traditions,
narrations reports and oral dictum.
For example Jah:iz: who was a Mutazili and literary polymath who wrote
books on
zoology and philosophy reporteth an event of trial as follow:
Ahmad ibn Abi Duad (the Mutazili chief qadi) asked him [Hanbal], "Is it true
that a thing must be either created or uncreated?"
[Han:bal:=] "Yes.""
[Qa:d:i: Abu:Da:vu:d:=] "And the Quran is a thing?"
"Yes."
[Qa:d:I: Abu Da:vu:d :=] "Is it true that only Deity is uncreated?"
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[H:anbal]"Yes."
[Qa:d:i:=]Then the Quran is created?"
[H:anbal:=]"I am no dialectician," he replied at last.
This is a fabricated report for several reasons.Either Al Jahiz hath invented it
in his imagination or accepted the unreliable source with out testing the
reliability and credibility at the chain of reporters and sources of the report,
1] It is well known that all the Ahlussunnah sects reject the Mutizilahs Axiom
of Only One Eternal.It is certainly not the belief of Imam Ahmad Bin Hanbal .
So this is a false ascription to Him if the word Shai is in the meaning of
Existent i.e One That Existeth.
2]Mutazilah did not believe themselves that any thing which is Uncreated is
Eternal. As in the case of Voluntary acts of Humans ,Jinns, Sitans and Angels,
they believed that they were neither Created nor Eternal. It was in the time
of Jabai when they faced the unanswerable question, about the Creator of
these stated above acts. Now Jabai was forced to chose that their respective
agents i.e doers are their Creator ,not the Deity.But this was not stated by
Mutazilah before him.
So the alleged argument of Only One Eternal is not even according to the
Mutazilahs standerd.
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or shall not occur, and even His Own Divine Self which pertaineth Him as a
Tautological Appertainment.So if the word Thing is used for the very Deity
HimSelf and doeth not make any problem for Mutazilah, the very same word
if used for Divine Attributes Cannot make any problem to Orthodox as well.
So it is clear that all of these are just product of Jahizs own mind.
If Imam was to be asked the question := Is Deiy the Only Eternal, His was to
reply them as follow:
They Only Eternal Essence is Divine or Divine Essence Is the Only Eternal
Essence.
3] The language used by Al Jahiz is disgraceful for a person like Imam
Ahmad.
3,a] The caliph saw that he was as untruthful as he was stubborn in the face
of irrefutable arguments..[Caliph was not a scholar and could not judge
himself. This statement exposes falsehood of Jah:iz: .
3,b] He [Qadi Abu Davud] ]merely wished to bring out the
insolence of the mans lies [I,e Iman Ahmad], just as he had exposed the
shamelessness of his obstinacy.
These are two examples to prove that Jahiz was a NOT doing Justice while he
was writing these words and sentences.
Still I have tried to answer some of the false reportings of Jahiz at the cost of
historicity in this play since this is a drama not intended to preserve
historicity event by event but in principle. On the contrary Reports of Jahiz
cannot be accepted as the records actual and factual events which occurred
before him with out proper sources and reporters. Since he is not attempting
to write a drama but wanteth to write with historical certainity. Here he
faileth.
J Van Ess and his copulation argument.
A scholar like J Van Ess [ Van Ess, Thologie und Gesellschaft] has tried to deny
the firmness of Hanbal on views and loyalty of H:anbal to to his belief by
making an argument stated below:=
If Imam Ahmad had not copulated , he would not been released from his
imprisonment.
Based on this argument based on conjecture tries to deny all the canonical
reports and to second the non canonical reports of Masudi,Yaqubi,Jah:iz:
and Al Murtad:a:.
But historical evidences can not be refuted with such an easy method.
DISCUSSIONS ABOUT ANTI H:ANBAL REPORTERS
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Three of the four non canonical reporters were certainly not present at the
events and at best they can have reports from human sources. These were
the sources and narrators of the events. This proves with certainty that these
three were not eye witness of the acts and events which they report in their
works. But the narrators of the events cannot be trusted. Since they are not
authentic reporters. [ A proper discussion on Vanns argument is beyond the
scope of this work].
This makes Al Jah:iz: the only candidate to be a possible eye witness. But as
a Mutazili he himself has great prejudices against Imam Ah:mad Bin
H:anbal(Pronounciation: H:AMM-BAL).
I is certainly impossible for a Mutazil to accept that a person survives all the
punishments \ sentenced to him just for a belief which Mutazili think as
absolutely wrong. This might have inclined him to concoct and fabricate
reports. If there is some truth in them even then there are distortions in
them.
One cannot trust in Al Jah:iz:s reports .
May I ask the learned scholar that if all the canonical reports of Imam
Ahmad are false then what is the authority of Al Hahiz himself. Further Imam
was not freed but sent to his home where is was kept as a captive in his
house and was not allowed to teach. Similarly if the canonical reporters are
to be disbelieved [ at worst according to Vann] or to be doubted [ at best
according to Vann] then why he believes that Non Canonical reporters ate
reporting the truth with historical certainty??
Is this not like to reject New Testamental Gospels and to accept Apocryphal
Gospels, which may not be acceptable on religious and seculat grounds since
New Testamental Works pre-exist Apocryphal Gospels.
Based on a single argument Vann tries to refute the credibility and reliability
of canonical[Al Qa:nu:ni] reports and to second non canonical reports. On
what authority he has the right to dispute with canonism [Al Qanu:inah].
But the argument it self is a weak one. It is possible that Monarch who ruled
with a power resting in him and not subject to any constitution , whether
Islamic or Secular , and to follow Islamic Laws was a matter of choice not a
compulsion in regard to him in several cases, released Imam Ah:mad Bin
H:anbal. What impossibility Vann has found?. One must not talk about Logical
and Mathematical Possibilities Impossibilities but only discuss Historical
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Why Mutasim sent him and not kept him in the prison in the capital is a
question but not an argument.
A question about an event cannot challenge the historicity of the event. So it
is not the responsibility of a historian to answer the questions which he
reports. There may be a number of reasons can be suggested but this
question even if not answered can not be a disprove of the reported events .
A possible answer is that Mutasi:im did admire the knowledge of Imam. He
only ordered to scourge him so that he may copulate. But when he found
out that Imam is not going to copulate he ordered him to send him to his
house since it was clear to him that this procedure is just useless and is not
going to work. Ancient Monarchs who ruled by degrees and orders some time
can be difficult to rationalize and to reason.A lot depend upon their will which
may vary from one time to an other time, even if the time period between
these two times is short. If Van Esss findings are trusted then it is implied
that all the reliable and trustworthy records and reports are wrong and
incorrect; they distort, modify and transform the original and actual
informations that were circulating about him in Sunni centres and circles ;
they suffer so much that Sunnis accepted the transformed and distorted
reports as legal and legitimate. This implies that is contemporaries were
unable of remembering and memorizing the events ad sayings related to him
with accuracy and correctness. If what Imam
Did, and What was Done to Him, What Imam said and what was said to him,
no thing was reported correctly then the historicity of Imam does cease to
exist once for all. This is certainly Vanns
Bias against the canonical, official
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and authentic reports about Imam and a bias for the inauthentic and noncanonical Anti H:anbal reports. Since Vann Ess not only accepts Anti H:anbal
reports uncritically, but also tries to argue in favour of them. The image
Ima:m Ah:mad Bin H:anbal thus produced from the work of Vann Ess is not
followed from the alleged neutral and Critical methods adopted by Vann Ess,
but from the pre-supposed and presumed Vanns own designed Character of
Person of Imam Ah:mad Bin H:anbal. The methods of criticism are also
chosen , using the axiom of human choice,to be in accordance and in
concordance with the pre-supposed image of Imam Ah:mad Bin H:anbal.
Vanns view of Imam, images of Acts ,Events and Sayings including the
alleged copulation is certainly not based on critical methods but on the pre
supposed axioms like:=
a)The official reports of Sunni Works are distorted,b)The reports of
unconsciousness are false,c)Imam could never Have been reliesed if
he had not copulated,d)the memorable event of sustaining on his
views did not occur, e) other memorable events also did not occur, etc.
The Prime weakness and powerlessness of the entire designed system
of criticism is imbedded in the bias against Imam. Vanns
reconstructed alleged history does lack historicity and produce an
imaginative character which does lack actuality and existence
simultaneously. It can never be explained that, why such a person
would have become a special case, why rich and powerful events were
ascribed to him within a very short period of time.
If Imam would have really copulated by the argument of force and
punishment, then it would ynot be a new thing for Sunnis, since some
Sunni Scholars did copulate under the imperial threats , yet the
reverted latter when they found them selves in some what safe
position.
Sunnis were certainly not looking for a hero who could withstand the
imperial force. It is well known to them that any force conversion is not
a conversion and if a person drifts from sunni believes under pressure,
and if he is unable to bear it, it is permitted to copulate apparently, but
to revert as soon as the force ceases.
Any how it is not an image of Imam that emerged from the alleged
critical methods of Vann Ess but the image is prior to the emergence in
the mind of Vann Ess and he selected a method not so critical but
biased against the historical character of the person of Imam Ah:mad
Bin H:anbal. To transform historicity of Ima:m to concoction and
concoction to historicity, converting the history of Imam to a story
about him is thus a fallacy .As stated
above, the stated above fallacy
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PART2
An Indian King
Once upon a time some where in the Subcontinent of the continent Asia
called Indian Subcontinent, there was a kingdom ruled by a Hindu ruler. He
some how got the knowledge of Islam and tried to know about details about
this relatively new religion.
In the court he tried to discuss the matter with the courtiers and nobilities.
Maha Raja:= I have heard that the religion of Arabs is prevailing and people
of different parts are accepting this religion.
Courtier1: Maha Raja if I may be allowed to speak I have heard that is new
religion is spread by the Argument Of Force and not by the Force of
Arguments.
Mara Raja: And What are thy sources for this claim.
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Coutier1: Ihave heard it from some of our scholars that Arabs generally do
not like Philosophical questions.
Mahara Raja := I doubt it .
Courtier1:= Maha Raja , we can find the truth just by asking the Muslim
Caliph to provide us some answers to some Philosophical Questions.
Maha Raja := Dost thou have any?
Courtier1: Yes Maha Raja we may ask to our theological scholars to send
some question.
MahaRaja:= Let a Philosopher be called.
After some time a Scholar inters the court.
Hindu Philosopher:Hari Om
Maha Raja stood from his thrown to shew respect.
Maha Raja: Great Saint I have called thee for a purpose.
Hindu Philosopher: Sir I have been informed and I have brought a set of
questions.
Maha Raja := I want thee to state just a single question and thou maist Judge
the weight of the reply when thy question is replied by the Scholars of the
new faith.
Hindu Philosopher:= I have a better idea, Why not ask the Muslim Ruler to
send us a Muslim Scholar so that we may discuss with him in person.
Maha Raja:= A very good idea indeed.
Maha Raja to the Epistle writer.
Maha Raja: Write as I say.
Royal Writer:= As thee commandest.
Maha Raja:=
From Maharaja to The Great Muslim Caliph:
Respected Caliph Of Muslims I am interested in thy religion .How ever I am
informed that thy religion does not like reason. If thee canst send me a
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Muslim Scholar to answer some of our questions in regard to thy faith and
articles of faith I shall be obliged. I want to know the truth where this
allegation is true or false.
From Maha Raja.
In the court of Caliph Harun Rashid a sound breaks.
Speaker:= Caliph a deligation from India Wants to be in thy Court.
Caliph Harun:= The deligation is permitted to enter the court.
The deligation enters the court.
A Member Of the Deligation:
Great Caliph Of Muslims I have an Epistle from our Maha Raja. Wilth thee
please permit me to read it in the court.
Caliph Harun. Thou art permitted.
The leader of the delegation reciteth the contents of the epistle.
A fter hearing the Epistle the Caliph Harun said.
Harun:= Thou art our guest . We shall send a legal Scholar [Faqih] as thou
hast requested.
Some days latter a legal scholar was chosen to be send to India with the
Indian Delegation.
The delegation returned with respect and gifts to the Indian Maha Raja.
In the court of Indian Maharaja a courtier says to the Maha Raja.
Leader of the delegation.
Maha Raja Our Caliph has send a Scholar for the purpose of discussion.
Thou mayst ask him any question about our faith.
Maha Raja:= Call for our Scholars and tomorrow we shall see by my own
eyes.
The very next day A the court was waiting for the debate.
The Hindu Scholar:= With thy permission am allowed to ask the Arabian
Scholar a simple question of theological Philosophy.
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[Several years letter]Haru:n hath died and hath divided the entire his
Caliphatic territories between his two sons, Amin the son of his beloved wife
Zubaidah, and Mamu:n son of his boundmaid. But a war hat broken between
the two step brothers
Mamun is at was with his step brother Amin.
The two step brothers are struggling for the throne and the crown.
Amin and Mamun are two brothers who have a common father but their
mothers are different. Oness of their father is unable to unite them and to
make them to live in peace.
How ever Mamun is extra ordinary brilliant . In the war Amin is killed and
Mamun wineth the crown and the throne. Now he is the Caliph .
In the court of Mamun.
Mamun: As the Caliph Of Muslims I assure that I shall always remain faithful
to the religion. My policy is liberal. I do not want people to live under fear but
in love. There is full freedom of speech ,and I believe that we can settle all
the religious and sectarian disputes by dialogues ,discussions and debates.
Courtiers: Hail to the new Caliph.
Mamun Looking at a Bound Maid asketh her to sit beside him.
As she cometh she maketh an objection
Bound Maid: Dear Caliph I cannot sit beside thee.
Mamun: Why Am I not worth of thee.
Bound Maid: No Sir but thy mouth smellest which I cannot bear.
Mamun is ashamed , and asketh the Royal Physician to give him medicine for
this.
A Courtier: Great Caliph Punish the Woman, she hath make some disgrace in
thy highness.
Mamun: Not at all. This is her right and I have assured every one freedom of
expression.
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If she hath not told the truth no one else would have. She is one of the best
woman in the court who loveth truth .
An Other Courtier: What a Justice. Hail to Mamu:n.
An other time inside the court.
Mamu:n : Let us play a game. Any one toucheth any thing in the court then it
is his or her.
All the people begineth to touch different expensive things. A man even
toucheth the crown of Mamu:n.
Mamu:n: Take the crown. Now it is thine.
Man : Mamu:n is Great, the lover of peace, justice, and truth.
A Bound maid cometh and touches Mamu:n.
Bound Maid: I toucheth Mamu:n, as he himself is inside the premises of the
courth. Now He is mine.
Every one in the court is astonished.
Mamun: Thou hast owned me. Now I am Thine. I take thee as my queen.
Courtiers:= Hath any one seen such a person who liveth by love and ruleth
justice.
Mamu:n: To rule with fear is the worst kind of government , to rule with love
and friendship is the best kind of government.
An other time in the court.
Mamu:n to one of his slaves in the court.
Mamun: Just bring me a cup of water.
Slave:= Why should I. If thou are thirsty thou shouldst go thy self.
Mamu:n to another slave.
Mamun:= A cup of water .
Second Slave: Why thou art so idle. Go thy self.
A Courtier:= Great Caliph Punish them.
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PART 4
Mamun On the Thrown:
After the war was over the winner celebrates a victory. In his speech he says:
I believe in peace, and justice. I believe in total freedom of religions. How
ever I believe that Islam is the most advance and rational religion which
may be proved to be true on basis of rational arguments.
In my court there there must be a place of inter religious debates and
discussions.
I my self am a student of theology and can decide which thing is true.
I love peace , justice and truth.
IN the court of Mamun there was a period of Religion discussions. Jews,
Christians, Majusis , all sort ofreligous scholars were present in the court.
Qadi Abu Davud was one of the leading scholars of Mutazilah sect and used
to defend Islam as according to Mutazilah.
PART 5
A GRAND DISCUSSION
In the court there was a discussion between a Majusi [Zoroastrian or
Magus]scholar and Qadi Abu Dvud Al Mutazili on the Issue of Two Deties. A]
Deity Of Good. B] Deity Of Evil. The Majusi Scholar was trying to prove that
the dogma of a single good deity is incorrect. He was attempting to prove
that if there is a Single Good Creator then the evils and bad in the world
cannot be explained properly. The debate was near its end. Two Creator
Dogma was is an attempt to answer the Question of the Existence Of Evil
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and Bad in the World. If Deity is Good then whence cometh Evil and Bad, and
Who is the Creator Of Evil and Bad found in the World Of Deity.
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If thou still dost not accept that thou believeth in two Distint Deities then
thou must define the term Deity.
The Majusi Scholar remained in Silence.
Mamu:n:= I think think thou hast no answer . I invite thee to accept Unity .
Majusi: Great Caliph thou cannot force me to thy religion.
Mamu:n:= Yes thou art correct. Thou mayst remain to thy religion.
Majusi Scholar:= Gratitude for thee and thy Justice.
Speaker:= Tomorrow there is going to be a debate between Qadi Abi Davud
and Christian Scholars.
Time is over for todays debate.
This is repeated several times.
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THE GREAT DEBATE BETWEEN Qadi Abu Davud and his opponents.
Next day at same time the debate was about to begun between Qadi Abi
Davud and Christian Scholars.
Speaker:= Today we are having a great discussion between Qadi Abi Davud
and his Christian Rejoinders.
Mamun:= By my permission the debate must begin now.
Speaker: Let the grand debate begin.
Qadi Abi Davud: To my respectable Christian opponents , my first objection is
on the Dogma Of Trinity.
I may ask Christian Scholar to Explain Trinity from authentic sources .
Christian Scholar:= We believe that [Pater]Father is Deity , YiosSon Is Deity
and [Pnuma] Spirit is Deity , Yet Deity is One.
We do not believe in three Fathers or in three Sons or in three Spirits.
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Also We do not believe that: Father is Son, Son is Father, Son Is Holy Spirit
and so on. Father is Not Son, Son is Not the Spirit, and Spirit is neither the
Son nor the Father.These three are truly distinct from one another.Yet Father
is unissued, Son is Issued from the Father and the Spirit is issued from both.
Qadi Abu Davud: If Pater(as) [Father],Yios[ Son] and Holy Pnuma[Spirit] are
three mutually distinct Hypostases then there are three Deities not just
One .If there is just One Deity then Father is Son, Son is Holy Spirit, Holy
Spirit is Father ,also Son is Father and so on. It is just the change of names or
epithets . Even Christians believe that the Son and Logos are one and the
same Hypostasis not two mutually distinct Hypostases.
Christian Scholar:= Actually we believe that the Pater(as) [Father] , Yios[Son]
and Holy Pnuma [Spirit] are three mutually and truly distinct Hypostases in
One Ousia Of Deity. They are Homoousia. None of the Hypostasis is Deity in
the sense of Trinity. So Deity remaineth One.How ever Yios and Logos are just
two names of one and the same Hypostasis.
Qadi Abi Davud:= It appears that my argument is still valid. If there are three
Hypostases in a single Ousia Of Deity then each Hypostasis is a Deity then
three Hypostases are three Deities . If there is only One Eternal then Pater
,Yios and Divine Pnuma are just epithets or nouns of one and the same
Eternal thing as in the case of Yios And Logos. Plurality of Eternal Hypostases
is the Plurality Of Eternals.
First Christian Scholar: No Hypostasis is Deity in the sense of Trinity.
An Other Christian Scholar:= Sir Iesous Messiah is the Logos [Word] Of Deity.
If Logos Of Deity then Uncreated, If Uncreated then Deity.
Qadi Abi Davud:= Only Deity is Uncreated not Word Of Deity.
First Christian Scholar;= Then in this case thou hath to admit that Quran is
also created. Dost thou believe in this.
Qdi Abi DAVUD is silent for some time, when a Jewish Scholar asked the
Caliph to say some thing.
Jewish Scholar:= Am I allowed to say some words Great Caliph.
Mamun: Thou art.
Jewish Scholar:=I think this question is problematic for Respectable Qadi Aby
Davud.
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I only explain our view that we believe that Torah is Word Of God but not
Eternal. When Deity Yahvah Said Let there be Light these spoken words of
Yahvah are not Eternal, AND IF NOT Eternal then not Uncreated, and If not
Uncreated then Created.
An other Jewish scholar:= Great Caliph:= May I be allowed to say some thing
in this regard.
Mamu:n := Affirmative, thou mayst.
The second scholar: I do dispute in this regard with our Great Schola:r. I say
The Words spoken by Deity which are quoted in Genesis are Neither Eternal
Nor Created but Done and Spoken.
Mamu:n: I do Thank thee for thy openion but I do believe that any thing that
is not Created is Eternal and any thing that is not Eternal is Created.
Mamun [ talking to Qad:I] It appeareth that the Great Jewish Jewish Scholar
[pointing at the first one] hath a perfect answer to the Christian argument.
What dost thou say Qadi Abi Davud.
Qadi Abu Davud:= Yes, Yes Sir I second the Jewish Scholar.
First Jewish Scholar:= My Gratitude to thee O Great Caliph.
Mamu:n:= Accepted. Now back to the discussion.
Words of Deity are Created by the Deity.So Quran is also a Creation Of Deity.
But then a great disturbance bagin inside the court. Muslim traditionalist
rejected this view that Quran is a Creation.
A Orthodox Muslim: Great Caliph Quran is not a Creation Of Deity. It is
Uncreated Speech Of Deity.
Qadi Abu Davud:= If Quran is a Divine Speech which is Not Created then the
Divine Word is also Uncreated. If so then Iesous is implied to be Uncreated.
Orthodox Scholar:= Great Caliph , May I be pleased be allowed to response
to Qadi Abu Davud.
Mamun:= Orthodox Circles cannot debate in Philosophy and Theology. They
only use traditions and in intellectual debates Traditions cannot be used. I
cannot allow thee .
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Christian Scholar:=
Great Caliph, please allow me to suggest that make a single opinion about
Quran among Muslims before discussing other religions. I suggest that there
must be a debate among Muslims about the very nature of Quran prior to
any debate with Christians.
Then the sound of the announcer raised: Time of the debate is over . It
shall be continued tomorrow.
TRANSITION OF A JUST INTO AN UNJUST.
In the evening Qadi Abu Davud was in privacy with Mamun.
They were discussing the issue of Quran and its Createdness.
Qadi: If we say that Quran is a Word of Deity then then either It is Created or
Uncreated . If Uncreated then it is almost the same thing the Athanasian
Christians say about Iesous Messiah. So Great Caliph I do suggest that the
Orthodox must be compelled to change their view about Quran.
Mamun: What if they refuse.
Qadi: Then Orthodox should be declared as as Heterodox and Heretic.
Exercise thy Power ,Force and Energy to make a consensus on the issue.
Force them to accept Mutizili version of Islam.
Mamun: But in my Caliphate every one hath a right to believe what he liketh
to.
Qadi:= Jews, Christians ,Zoroastrians may have such rights but heretics and
Apostates do not have such a right. I assure thee that if thou punisheth them
then by Deity It Shall be Necessary Upon Deity to Reward thee. A necessity
which is inevitable even for the Great Deity Himself and not in His Power to
remove the necessity of reward.Jews , Christians and Zoroastrians do not
represent Islam. But these Orthodox represent Islam. So it is a matter of
representation of Islam. May I remind thee that these Orthodox also believe
in Befitic Vision Of Deity as well. What an Irrational mind. If they are
accepted as the true representative of Islam then they Islam shall no more
be a rational religion.
Mamu:n recalling the past.
Mamu;n:
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But it must be made clear that if after the removing of doubts no one is
allowed to remain on his former belief of Uncreativity Of Holy Quran. Qadi
Abu Davud and I Shall decide weather the doubts are cleared or not. Of
cource we cannot continue the debate indefinitely.If some one attempteth to
answer our answers he shall be punished.
From now on all the Judges in the courts of law shall be appointed after
confessing that Quran is a Creation. Qadi Vaqdi is just an example of
believers in the creativity AND CREATEDNESS OF Qura:n..
Finally I send a questionnaire to different orthodox scholars in regard to their
believes about Quran.
There names are:
1] Bishar Bin Valid
2]Abul Hasan
3]Ubaidullah BinUmar Cawariri
4]Ibrahim Al Mahdi
5]Ahmad Bin Hanbal
6] Sajjadah
7]Muhammad Bin Nuh.
A Christian Scholar:= At last Abu Davud has diverted his attention from us.
Second Christian Scholar:= Can such useless debates change the belief, I
doubt.
First Christian Scholar:= It shall be interesting to see how Qadi Abu Davud
dealeth with Muslim Orthodox.
Second Christian Scholar: Yes Of course it Shall be. Orthodox and Rationalists
are two parallel lines which never meet. For the first time on the globe one
may see how these two parallel line meet.
First: I suppose it shall be a historical moment in the history of histories,
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Ishaq Bin Ibrahim the chief enquirer gathers a meeting and enquireth about
the faith in regard to the Nature Of Holy Quran.reation suspend his judicial
powers.
Say to Bishar, that he liethfor there is no stipulation between me and him.
Ask him to accept the belief of Creativity Of Quran. If he recanteth publish it
in public , and if persisteth, bring his head to me.
Say to Ali Bin Abi Muqatil := Thou art not he who said to the Caliph that
thou verily canst absolve and bind.
Say to Zyadi that he used falsely to claim clientship with a spurious son.
Say to Ibn Nuh thathe employeth himself in taking usury to the hindrance of
his knowledge, now he hath added infidelity as well.
Say to Ahmad Bin Hanbal that I my self am aware of the manner of his
arguments, which is pure ignorance and invalidity.
Say to Sajjadah that his occupation hath made him to forget Unity Of Eternal.
Say to Ubidullah Bin Umar Carirri that it is exposed that he taketh bribes.
To Ishaq: One who accepteth the belief publish it in general public. And one
who rejecteth it bring him in chains to the Capital except Bishar and Ibrahim.
If the persist then their heads must be brought instead of them.
Ishaq maketh an enquairy.
All except the faith except four. They are as Sajjadah, Ahmad Bin Hanbal,
Muhammad Bin Nuh andUbaidullah Bin Umar.
SECOND ENQUIRY:=
In the second enquiry Sajjadah losteth his wicket and submiteth himself.
Ishaq: Now who is going to accept the faith of the Caliph. Thou Thou thou
thou.
Sajjadah:= I accept his views. I pronounce Quran is Created.
Ishaq: Release Sajjadah at once.
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THIRD ENQUIRY
In the third one Ubaiduallah is bold out and accepteth the faith of Mamun.
Ishaq:= I say now who is going to accept the belief that QURAN is CREATED.
If you people insist and persist on thy Orthodoxy then be prepair to meet the
Caliph in person.
Ubaidullah:= Sir Iam prepaired to accept the belief of the Caliph.
Ishaq : Release Ubaidullah .
Now he looketh at the two remaining persons still struggling for the truth of
Orthodoxy and Quranic Truth.
Ishaq : What thou sayest Ibn Nuh.
Ibn Nuh:= I am prepaired to face my fate. I believe what I have believe in
Past and shall continue to believe in it in future.
Ishaq : Chain him.
And what thou sayest O Ahmad Bin Hanbal.
Imam Ahmad Bin Hanbal:= I persist on my believe.
Two of them refuse to surrender and to submit. They had to fight the might
of the Mornarch.
In the darkness when orthodox hath last all hopes like wickets in a Cricket
Match two men were still struggling to end the match on the last ball of the
match, not before it.
They are standing the most fast bowling of the Monarch. The last wicket of
the Orthodox was struggling to save the match as often seen in game
Cricket.
Mamun seeth in depth all the reports in the Court of Mamun.
Mamun becometh very angry as they hath not accepted his Mutazili
Believes. He dictateth another epistile to Ishaq.
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Ibn Nuh:= If thou art alive to face the trial , thou must not fail.
Imam Ahmad:= Self of Mine Knoweth It.
Ibn Nuh:= Look Ahmad , Deity is Himself the savior of His Religion. He
requireth not me or thee.
Togather we are a team. If thou dieth I shall be left alone.
Imam Ahmad:= May I be as fortunate as thee.
Ibn Nuh:= I am fortunate enough to die before the trial.
Imam Ahmad:= Mayst thou live.
Ibn Nuh:= I think Iam about to die.
During the travelling fro Bazitine to Bughdad Ibn Nuh falleth ill. His illness
increases before the trial hath to begun. He is about to die .
Mamun is in Roman Terrotaries namely Byzantine.
IN THE COURT OF MAMU:N.
A Courtier asketh him that a scholar wanteth to come in the court.He
informeth Mamun that the scholar saith that he hath some questions about
the belief of Creation Of Quran. He saith he Shall accept this belief if his
doubts are replied logically, other wise he saith that the Caliph may allow in
peace. Qadi Abu Davud is in Baghdad but Bashar Bin Muraisi is present who
is an equivalent to Qadi Abu Davud and useeth to assist him in debates.
Mamun himself is over confidenced upon his own knowledge.
So he granted him peace if they are unable to refute his doubts on the
Creativity Of Quran.
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Abdul Aziz:= Now if the third option is accepted then Quran is not a Divine
Speech and Deity is not the Speaker Of the Speech. Creator Of a Speech
cannot be the Speaker Of the Speech. In this case Quran is a Speech with out
a Speaker. To do an act is one thing and to Create an act is an other thing. So
Deity cannot be an Active Participle i.e Speaker Of any Speech what so ever.
If so then this meaneth that Jahmites are right that Qura:n is not the Divine
Speech. Thou believeth that It is created yet it is Divine Speech. Logically
either It is Uncreated Divine Speech or not the Divine Speech at all. In this
case thou must have to accept the dogma of Jahmite that Deity is not the
speaker of Qura:n and Qur:an is not His Speech. But Mutazilites differ.
Cretion of Qura:n logically and rationally implicateth Jahmites and not
Mutazilites.
Baha-r is silent so is Mamu:n.
Abdul Aziz looking at Mamu:n asketh, May I ask another related Question to
my learned opponent.
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Mamu:n:= Confirmed, but Humans Shall not, even if they can. Deity Cannot
speak a false statement and human must not speak a false statement,
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Bash-r:= Gratitude.
MAMUN BECOMETH SICK and dieth
The problem in the mind made Mamun some what sick. He soon becometh
ill.
How Ever Mamun did not live long after this debate. He died in August 833
AC.
Not beyond the suspition of curse of two noble characters of History.-----If this was not the only cause of his ultimate illness then it was probably one
of the causes of it.
REPORT OF DEATH OF MA:MUN CONVEYED TO H:ANBAL
A man : Hanbal dost thou know Mamun hath died.
Hanbal: Looking up at heavens . But this is not the end. It is the beginning of
something even worse then the things in the period of the Dead Mamun.
Abu Is-h:a:q Bin Ha:ru:n Al Mutasim Billah [796-842] ascendeth to the
throne after Mamu:n.
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Uncle: Mark it Nephew, up till now thou hast seen nothing, they shall scourge
to and pain thee.On that day even thou shalt copulate. Do it before that day.
Imam: = I may see the day too.
Th e Man:= Yes! Thou must have . I am a Robber , perhaps the greatest of all
robbers of the time.
Imam Ahmad Bin Hanbal:= What thou wanteth. What a robber hath to do
with me?
Ibn Haisam:= Are we not both slaves of Deity, His bound men?
Imam Ah:mad Bin H:anbal:= Certainly we are.
Ibn Haisam:= Can a bad slave of Deity say some thing to a good one?
H:anbal: Yes. But who is good is only known to Deity.
Ibn Haisam:= A have come to thee to advise thee.
A good advise from a great sinner and transgressor.
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Ibn Haisam:= Let me tell thee some thing first. I am whipped and scourged
countless number of times just to admit that I have commited crimes. But I
never confessed.
Hanbal:= Why ?
Ibn Haisam:= For my love for falsehood and wrongness was so great. But Is
thy love for truth and righteousness as great as my love for wrongness and
falsehood.
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my true sins,see that they must not be able to make the accept the hecrecy
and apostacy.
If I can stand against all the punishments awarded to me, Thou must stand
against all the punishments awared to thee.
Hanbal looking towards heavens; Let not me fail the test. O Deity save Ibn
Haisam for his faith is truth if not his acts.
Hanbal:= O Deity if Thou wantest to test me then Give me the strength and
power to satisfy the test.
Hanbal looking at Ibn Haisam. But he hath gone as he hath never been there.
O Deity ,Thy Omnipotence is so great that if the whole Cosmos Sinneth thou
Canst forgive the entiretity of Cosmos. O Deity Forgive Ibn Al Haisam.
Hanbal Looking up at heavens: O Deity , Do not put me to a Divine Test. For I
am too weak to be Tested.
Ahmad Bin Hanbal:= I know not any thing but One thing , Quran is
Uncreated,
It is the issue of entire righteousness. I know not the future but it is the most
obligatory duty to stant against the tyrant ,brute and unjust for the sake of
righteousness, truth ,and reality.
Both men begin to cry almost simultaneously.
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presented what they possessed. Now they were compelled to repeat yet in
different
words and expressions.
In all surrejointers and surrebuters Mutasim is quite bored.He is not of this
field.
If Mamu:n were alive he may have witness the powerful rebuttals presented
by Imam Ah:mad Bin H:anbal.
But Mutasim is inspired by the knowledge of Imam Ah:mad Bin H:anbal.
Even Mutazilahs are surprised to see who he refuteth them with out the aid
of theology and philosophy
Using logic simply.
The trial is at its end for today.
Mutasim heareth the last words of Imam:
I have repeated several times that if thou believest Qura:n is Created then
thou canst not
accuse Jahmiah. Jahmites for their belief that Qura:n and Knowledge Of
Diety both are
Created.
Today Mutazili scholars of Baghdad have seen limits of their theological
system.
The last hope of Traditionists [traditionalists] is batting on a pitch supporting
fast and spin bowlers of Mutazilahs,
yet solid in defence. Several Mutazili Bowlers are changed in the second day
of the cricket of polemics
each after comleting his overs, but none is able to take the wicket of H:anbal.
The assembly at night.
In night an assembly was held and different Mutazilah scholars are present.
They are discussing about the last day about
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Shuaib:= Hanbal it is strange that thou art able to stand against such
arguments but the Dogma thou art advocating is incorrect beyond doubt.O
Hanbal Thou hast proved that Orthodox can debate which I initially doubted.
Barghuth: Looking at Abu Davud: He is wasting the time of the court creating
more problems then expected.
Mutas:im :=I encumber thee to take final approach so that I may not wast
my time on Hanbal.
Qadi Abu Davud looking at the court THEN AT Mutas:im claimeth:=
Qadi:=Great Caliph, Now I present the most powerful Argument we have
made specially for him last night, which I have not presented Yet.
How ever before its presentation , I once again ask Hanbal that if he
admiteth that he is unable to under stand the problem, he may be given the
benefit of doubt.
Hanbal:= I say Quran is Uncreated Speech Of Deity and Uncreated Divine
Attribute.
Qadi: Once again thou hast made the doubt to ceased, and consequently the
benefit of it.
Imam Ahmad:= Quran is Uncreated Divine Attribute Of Speech beyond any
doubt and suspicion .
MUTASIM: What thou saist O Hanbal?
Hanbal:= Bring some evidence from Words of Prophet or even Words of
Companion Of Prophet to prove that Quran is a Creation.
Qadi: I Must deduce it from the fundamental believes and Articles Of Faith Of
Islam.
Hanbal: Thou mayst attempt to.
Qadi looking at Mutasim:= Now Great Caliph I must present the most
powerful argument rather proof of the belief.
Looking at Imam Ahmad Bin Hanbal.:
Dost thou believe that Deity is the Creator Of All Things.
[SHAI=THING,PLASHYA:]
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AL ILZAMI]. They were all shocked once again as before. But this time It Was
Hanbal Himself who broke the timeless ice.
Hanbal:= As you Mutazilite make Exception of Divine Self when you say All
Selves Shall die, I make an Exception for the Divine Speech when I say All
things are Created. These Mutazilites are unable to distinguish between
Divine Attributes and Creatures of Deity.
A MURMARRING BEGAN IN THE COURT.
Shuaib to Qad:i : Next he is going to argue that if All things are created then
Deity Himself is Created other wise There is an exception. What a logic of
Exception. We have taken the Orthodox leader [Imam] as an easy task yet he
hath proved to be the most difficult task.
Qad:i: := (In an apologitical way proceedeth). What I mean is Every Thing
Other than Deity? Thou hast analysed my argument and found an appearent
flaw in it. Now I repeat my argument inserting the word Other. Any thing
other than Deity is a Creation Of Deity.
Imam Ah:mad Bin H:anbal:=Divine Attributes are not Other than Deity. Even
Mutazilis believe that Divine Omniscience is not other than Deity. The same
is true for Divine Speech.If Mutazili theologians are not considering Quran
as a Divine Attribute even then they have to consider it in Divine
Omniscience.So atleast in regard to Divine Omniscience Quran is neither
Created nor Other than Deity.If it is said that Quran is not in Divine
Knowledge then Divine Knowledge ceaseth to be Omniscience. I now reword
my argument. If Divine Knowledge is Eternal and Omniscience then Deity
Must Necessarily always have known the Qur_an. So Quran is Eternal
atleast in regard to
Divine Omniscience.If it is said that Divine Knowledge is a Creation then this
is A BLASPHAMY.
Qadi:= Great Caliph this man is causing and creating more problems then
estimated.
After all he hath
some how learned to use Logical and Theological arguments.
Our continual debates appeare to have compelled him to give more thought
to the refutation of our arguments and to reform orthodoxs arguments
logically and theologically.
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But then
Ibn Ab Dua:d and Is-h:a:q bin Ibra:h:m INTERRUPTED .Ibn Ab
Dua:d declared that Ibn H:anbal was misguided and misguiding, an opinion
Ish:a:q := H:anbal hath defied two
Caliphs Mamu:n and thee, releasing him would be a disgrace for the entire
Abbasid dynasty.
This line of reasoning, TEMPORARILY, WORKED. Mutasim grew angry and
rude. Mutas:im became in Excited state and lost all the reasons and
changed his initial attitude towards Imam.
Mutasam:=I shall punish thee.
Mutasam begineth to strike on the head of Hanbal. After several hard blows
Imam falleth unconscious.
A man throweth water on the head of Imam so that he may be resuscitated.
Imam Resuscitateth.
Mutasam: He is mocking me. Now I shall not shew any mercy on him.
Scourgers Scourge him ruthlessly.
Al-Mu_tas:im ordereth the lictors to approach Ibn H: anbal one by one, strike
two blows, and back away.
Two scourgers cometh and each one of them hitteth Imam two times. This is
continued.
On the first whip Couple of Whip Imam Sayth: BY THE NOUN OF DEITY.
On the second Imam sayth := LA HAULA VA LA QUVATA ILLA BILLAH [There is
No Power Except The Deity]
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On the fourth:=
QUL LAN YUSIBUNAA ILLA MA KATABALLAHU LANA.
A battle hath begun between the pride of Mutas:im and his mind. He seseth
that some thing is not going correct.
H:anbal IS stripped of his shirt and placed between the posts.He adds that
he rebuked the caliph, warning him against spilling the blood of Muslims, and
citing an appropriate Hadis.
The text of H:adis doeth worked to an extent.Again the Caliph hesitated, but
again giveth in to the Mu_tazils,who are crying out that he is an
unbeliever.
T wice the caliph left his THRONE to remonstrate with the prisoner.
Seeing this Ish:a:q bin Ibra:him also resiumeth to reason with Imam once
again. _Ujayf b.
_Anbasa proddeth Imam with the hilt of his sword.
At one point _Abd al-Rah:ma:n bin Ish:aq stood by and recited the names of
all the scholars who had already capitulated.Ibn H:anbal only repeated his
slogan.After each pause the flogging capitulated.Ibn H anbal only repeated
his slogan. The whipping is resumed.
At one pause:=
Hanbal is being scourged ,which is continued for a long period of time.
A Police Officer [ Ishaaq Bin Ibrahim]: O Hanbal thou must shew some
sympathy on thy self. Why dost thou accept the belief that Quran is a Divine
Creature so that thou may be released .Thou may revert to thy believes
latter.
Hanbal: It is not just the problem of a single person. It is the collective
problem of Orthodox circle Of Islam. See there are people standing with there
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pens and paper just to record whether I stand firm on the belief of
UnCreativity Of Holy Quran or accept the Heretical and Unorthodox view of
Qadi Abu Davud and Mutazilah . If I accpeteth this believe I shall do a crime
which Shall be worst of all times. On the other hand I have not insurrected
against the Monarchs. But to keep my believes conserved I cannot make any
change . Monarchs make terrorism not us.
MEN REPORTING THE EVENT:A man : Still standing.
An Other Man:= He doeth not feel pain because Deity is With Him.
An Other Man: I have seen every thing now. Even the weakest person can
defeat the strongest of persons.
An other person: I believe Quran is Uncreated. Now if Even Hanbal himself
changeth his view, I shall Continue to believe that Quran is Uncreated.
Quran is Uncreated even if Hanbal saith other wise.
Hanbal listening to the man:=
I am going now. Now it is not a matter of Hanbal. Whipping may compel
Hanbal to change his view but not the Ultimate reality THAT Quran is
Uncreated, SINCE IT IS IMMUTABLE AND UNCHANGEABLE.
Men start leaving saying among themselves:= Quran is uncreated even if
H:anbal saith otherwise.
Out of the court they disperse.
After each pause the flogging is resumed, with the caliph calleth out to the
lictors to strike harder, hoping that he may copulate.But all in vain. H:anbal
doeth not copulate.
Ibn
H:anbal is eventually struck over thirty lashes and then Imam loseth
consciousness.
By the time mental state of Mutas:im is grounded . In his de-exsited state
he once again reverteth to his initial attitude to wards Imam .
Mutas:im after his mental state was grounded from the excited state
sayth:=
I do not know what to do about that man.When Ibn H:anbal passeth out
again,
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Mutas:im died in the year 842 AC. He never asked any thing about Ima:m .
Vasiq On the Throne [Reign :=842AC-847 AC]:=
Vasiq is the next ruler and an enemy of orthodox Islam. He continued the
same tradition to suppress the orthodox scholars by force and power. Yet he
did not tested Imam Ahmad Bin H:anbal since he did not want to undo what
his predecessor had done. Imam is still enclosed in his house and not
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In Vasiqs time there is an Orthodox Scholar, nounly Ahmad Bin Nas:r who
openly preached that Quran is Uncreated and beatific Vision Of Deity (i.e
Vision Of Deity Shall occur] after Dooms day or Day of Judgement.
He is called for a trial partially of his belief in Uncreativity Of Al Quran and
partially for the belief in Divine Vision. He is interrogated in the Royal Court
Of Vasiq.
Vasiq:= It is reported that thou believe that Quran is Uncreated and Beatific
Vision . It is even a greater Sin to believe that Deity Must Be Seen in after the
Divine Judgement .
Ibn Nasr[bravely]: Undoubtly I do believe.
Thou believe that Deity Can Turn Visible from the state of invisibility.
Ibn Nasr: I believe Deity Shall Be Seen With Certainity after the Great
Judgement.
Vasiq := On what grounds.
Ibn Nasr:= The tradition reporteth that the Holy Prophet Hath Said So.
Vasiq: Thou liest.
Ibn Nasr [ Neglecting the might of the monarch] :No thou dost lie.
And there was a silence in the court and all the courtiers and nobilities were
silence over this unexpected reply.
Vasiq:= I do deny to believe in a Deity Who Can Be Seen. Since Visibility is
Cannot be an Attribute Of Deity.
The Jury of Mutazalite Scholars:= We neither believe in Beatific Vision nor in
Theophany. So he must be killed and let his blood be upon us.
Qadi Abu Davud:= It is lawful to Kill this person for the sake of Deity himself.
Vasiq:= Bring my sword so that I be the only killer of this person and no one
share the apportunity to kill such a person but only my self.
Head Of Ibn Nasr is cut of from the rest of his Holy Body . His head is
IMPALED in Bughdad and his body is impaled inSurra Man Ra. [They
remained there for six LUNAR years in that state].
ABDULLAH BIN UMAR CHALLENGE TO QADI ABU DAVUD.
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Abdullah:= My second question is, Did the Holy Prophet know Quran is
Created?
Qad:i: := Yes undoubtly. A belief of Faith and not known to Prophet , it is
impossible.
It must be known to the Holy Prophet Himself.
Abdullah:= Then my third question is, Why did he not asked his Holy
Companions to believe In Creativity Of Quran?
Qadi Abu Davud is silence as IF he is speechless for the last time in his life.
ABDULLAH looking at Vasiq:= Sir when Holy Prophet Who according to Thee
knoweth that Quran is Created never asked his Companions to believe in the
Createdness Of Quran then why did thou test people.
When Prophet HimSelf did not compel his companions to believe in Creativity
Of Quran why do you people do it. Dost thou know Islam more than the Holy
Prophet Himself.
Dost Qadi Abi Duad knoweth Islam more than the Holy Prophet Himself?
This line of argument worked well. Abdullah heareth Vasiq saying:=
Vasiq:= Why did I do a thing Which is not done by the Prophet Himself?
Why.? Why? Thou mayst go I think I need some privacy.
Vasiq looking at the nobalities and courtiers:= Theological discussions are
beyond my scope.But I know one thing. If this believe is so Important then
the Holy Prophet must have stated atleast once in his life time. They are the
guardians and the keepers of the traditions and words of Prophet. If Prophet
hath saith it only once the would have received the report of it as a tradition.
This meaneth that he was silent as if he did not know it. It can only be
explained that this belief is not a part of the Religion.
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A THEOLOGICAL JOKE
In the privacy Vasiq demandeth for a Joker to make some pleasant moments.
Joker:= First of all please allow me to make condolence for some thing.
Vasiq: Thou art.
Joker: My condolence is for the Holy Quran Itself.
Vathiq: Shocking: Why? Hath Quran Died? What kind of Joke it is?
Joker : Great Caliph Although Quran is living at present but sooner or later It
Shall Die.
Vasiq: What thou speakiest?.
Joker: Pardon me Sir, But Is Quran Not a Creation? If Creation then Temporal.
And It it is then it shall either die some day in future. Since all Creations Must
die some how and some day. If not die then annihilated. Since every Creation
whether living or not must perish some day.
Vasiq: Art thou a Joker or a Theologian? Leave me alone. I had asked for thee
to amuse me after all these mind aching theological problems , and thou
hast ached my mind more then a theologian. Leave me alone for Deitys sake
leave me alone.
A GREAT CHANGE
Next day in the court.
Vasiq: Today my first order that is to be issued that Qadi Abu Davud hast
been discussing a theological problem which is unnecessary and I am not
going to continue this any longer. How ever what so ever is done in the past
is considered to be valid. But even if Quran is Created, let WE ARE NO ONES
to enforce this belief upon others.
Qadi doeth not say a word and stepeth down from his position and leaveth
the court after this disgrace.
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Death of Vasiq:=
Vasiq dieth in the year 841 AC. His successor is Mutavakkil [841AC-847AC].
But he is an Orthodox in heart. Slowly and gradually he is trying to uproot
the Mutazilahs influences in the court. He is working wisely to get rid of
fanatics in the court ,who in the name of rationality have allowed all sorts of
irrational activities. Miutavakkil maketh Abi Davu:d deprived of his post.
Later He begineth to appoint orthodox scholars in Mosques. Time of Mutazili
Irrationalists is over. The clock cannot be turned back, and time cannot flow
backwards. Mutazilah hath lost their power. The claimant of rationality were
not so rational. Mutavakkil asketh Ima:m to write some believes of
Ahlussunnah Creed. Imam sendeth him an Epistle about the principle and
basic believes of Ahlussunnah Val Jama:ah Creed. The official belief is now
based on the Epistle of Ima:m. Mutavakkil ordereth to burry the body of Ibn
An Nas:r to be buried . His boly is still not buried, hanging with out head and
head hanging with out body. A large number of people attendeth his final
ceremonies. So large that even Mutavakkil becometh frightened of
insurrection. Although Orthodox , he is the caliph and is afraid of insurrection.
Imam is repeatedly requested to take the position of Prime Justice but he
constantly refuseth. His son accepteth the post and is appointed immediately
the vacant post.
Imam is annoyed but his son maketh an interpretation of his act which
minimizeth the annoyance to some extent.
How ever Mutazili rationalist were able to get rid of him by planning his
murder [in 847AC]. They accuse him falsly of Nasibiah, inventing stories
against him. He was not a Nas:ibi yet weak and forgered reports and
traditions are made against him.
But the time of Mutazilah was over. The Imam is an unquestionable
Authority. He never claimeth such a status
he ruleth the heart, a rule which
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hath only one constitution Love. The next Caliph also respected the IMAM .He
followeth the Creed of Ima:m officially. Even Caliph doeth not dare to dispute
from the Creed Of Ima:m. Every thing is now Topsyturvy.
DISCUSSIONS AT DIFFERENT PLACES
Mutazili theologians [M] are openly challenges by Orthodox theologians
,Logicians and SCHOLARS [0] at different places and evolution of Orthodoxs
responses and replication began. Each scholar refuteth on his own according
to his sensibilities They refute Mutazilahs independent of eache other. There
is no system . Every one is Unique till know.Every one attempteth to
response in his own style. On only Mutazilah but Philosophers and Jahmites
are also challenged.
At some place in the Abbasid Caliphate.
M] Quran is a Creation Of Deity.
O] No It is Not.
M] If Quran is not a Creation then it is Eternal.
O] Yes Quran Is Eternal.
At Some An Other Place.
M] As Iesous Is The Word Of Deity Created and Quran is Speech then It must
also be Created.
O] Iesous is called Logos [Word/Calmah] Of Deity Not Omilia
[Speech/Cala:m] Of Deity , and Quran is Omilia [Speech/Cala:m] Of Deity .
There is a difference between a Logos and a Omilia.
Logoi[Words] are not Divine Attributes but Omilia [Speech] is a Divine
Attribute.
AT AN OTHER PLACE
M] What is the difference between Athanasian Christianilty
Orthodox. They both believe in Plurality Of Eternals.
and Muslim
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At an other place:=
M:= If Quran is Created then Deity Cannot Violate His Promise since it is
Toutological to the claim Deity Can make a False Promise.
O] Deity and Attributes Of Deity are UnCreated and Eternal, but not the
Relative Attributes of the Attributes. Thou hast to make a distinction between
Attributes Of Deity and Attributes Of Attributes Of Deity. Omni-Speech is a
Divine Attribute, do not confuse Relative Attributes of Divine Attributes with
the Divine Attributes themselves.
At an other place:=
M] Deity Cannot been since It defieth laws of Vision.
O] Laws of Vision Can be Changed by the Deity Himself.
M] Necessary Condition of some one to be visible is to be finite and Deity is
Infinite.
O] There is no such Necessary Condition. Even this is not a Sufficient
Condition.
M] Then what is the Necessary Condition.
O] My task is to disprove the Claims that Corporeality and Finiteness are the
Necessary Conditions for the Divine Visibility. But I must even try to disprove
any attempt to prove them as Sufficient Conditions as well. Now Bring thy
arguments and Proves.
M] Infinite Cannot be seen by Finite.
O] Thy proof of thy claim is the claim it self and this is a fallacy of worst
kind.
At Some Other Place:=
M] All things are Created by Deity and Quran is a thing. So It is also Created
by the Deity.
O] Thou mayst be responsed in two ways:=
First Mutazilah them selves do not believe that All things are Created by
Deity. Since they do not believe that Human and Jin Acts are Created by
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Mutazilah hast lost all the powers. Yet they are in the field. They are free to
believe what they want, they are free to debate. Jabai is the last Imam of
Mutazilism. He is a great debater aided by his step son and best of all
students. Abul H:asan Al Ashari.
One day:=
Ashari:= Sir , I have a conundrum for thee.
Jabai: Really but for what.
Ashari: As a mental and theological exercise.
Jabai: Ask then.
Ashari: What thou sayth for three brothers , one of them was a very pious
man and died in good, one of them was bad and evil and died in evil and
bad.
But the last one of them died young , and did not know good or evil.
Where shall they be treated by the Deity.
Jabai: The Good one shall be rewarded , the bad one shall be punished by
Deity.
But the last one Shall neither be rewarded nor be punished since Deity is Just
and Wise, and it is unjust and unwise to Reward some one who had done no
good ; similarly it is Unjust and Unwise to punish some one who had done no
Bad. Since all Evils are Bad.
Ashari: : What if the last one protesteth that O Deity, If thou hath Granted
me a long life , I would have got the reward like by first brother.
So it is a great Injustice and Unwise act thou hath done. What Thou hath tpo
say in my case.
Jabai: Deity Shall Reply that :I Knoweth that if I Granted thee a long life then
thou would have done bad and evil like thy second brother, therefore it was a
just and wise act not to grant thee a long life. So if I Hath not shortened thy
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life thou would have been punished like thy first brother.To save thee from
punishment is a Wise and Just Act.
Ashari: : But what if the second brother protesteth, O Deity Why did Thou
Not Shortened my life like my last brother, so that I might be saved from Thu
Punishment. This is neither a wise nor a just act to grant me a long life if
Thou Knoweth that I would do Bad and Evil deeds and acts.
Jabai is silent. Ashari is wateing for a response. It appeareth that time hath
stopped flowing and is suspended. Buth then every thing changed. Jabai is
Able to break the timeless ice.
Jabai: THOU ART MAD.
Ash:ari unable to response this argument went away.
No one knoweth where he hath Gone.
SEVERAL YEARS LATTER IN A MASJID [MOSQUE] IN BAS:RAH A MAN COVERED
BY A SHEET OF CLOTHE APPEARED.
THE MAN: One who knoeth me knoweth that I A am Abul H:asan Alashari
the former Mutazili Scholar.. One who doeth not know me , let him know
that I am Abul Hasan AL Ashari, the former Ashari Scholar.
I believed that I my self am the creator of my acts, in the absurdity and
impossibility of Beatific Vison of Deity,in the necessacity of Justice Upon
Deity,
And in the createdeness of Qura:n. But I disdress my self from all such
believes like I DISDRESS my self from this peace of clothe. And he doeth
throw it on the floor of the Masjid.
He hath books. All written based on logic and rational arguments refuting
Mutazilism.
People surround him with Joy. Now they hath a Sunni system to combat not
only with Mutazilah but also with the Muslim Philosophers as well. Ashari
School is born.
A DECAY LATTER IN THE COURT OF THE CALIPH OF THE TIME. Imam Ashari is refuting a Mutazili.
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Ashari sayth: Mutazilahs and Philosophers who deny Beatific Vision must know that there are rational and logical
proofs for that. I say to both of the groups that Beteafic Vision is Possible and Contingent . Since Vision only
requireth the Existence of the Existent, Not the Body. Existent is common to all existents, and Deity is also an
Existent.
There is no exception for Divine Existent and Divine Existent.
The court is silent.
One man wispereth to an other person: I know an other person Abu Mansur Maturidi in Ma Vara:annah-r. He
responseth this problem in a different way. He is also a Sunni Imam
Like Al ash:ari:.
Second Man: How he responseth.
First man [ Recalling his memory]. He saith:
I believe in Beatific Vision on the Testimony. But there is no proof on rational and logical grounds that it is impossible
and absurd.
We do know each and every attempted proof provided by Philosophers and Miutazilahs. Each one of them is invalid
and unsound. There first attemted proof is
Second man: Thou meanest that an other system Aof Ahlussunnah is founded beside System of Al Ashari:. ,
The firsth Man:= The answer is in affirmation, This is The Maturidi System.
The First man continueth : I remember his words , He is saying to Mutazilahs and Philosophers. Inform us some
thing that we know it not.
Meanwhile:
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BUT GONE ARE THE DAYS WHEM MUTAZILAH WERE THE RULING AUTHORITY.
Mutazilahs face defeats in theological discussions and debated with Ashari
amd Maturididi Theologians,Scholars,Philosophers and Rationalists [Ahlul
Maqu:lia:t].
But it all began with a single meek voice in the court . Qura:n is Uncreated,
and sounds of flogging, whipping and scourging.
END
THIS IS A PROTO VERSION OF THE PLAY . FURTHER IMPROVEMENTS ARE
POSSIBLE. AUTHOR.
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