MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY BUREAU OF CRIMINAL APPREHENSION INVESTIGATIVE INTERVIEW BCACase Number; 2015-648 Person(s) Interviewed: Rayann F. Hayes Date/Time of Interview: 02-04-2016 / 1445 **"* = Inaudible Interviewed By: SA Mike Phill SA Chris Olson Reviewed By/Date: SA Olson 02-06-2016 Rayann Hayes: Then when we got, when the police came there, | wasn't even there. SA Mike Phill: Yeah, they were, they were moving you out? : Rayann Hayes Yeah. ‘SA Mike Phill: Okay, and | think you told the police officer that the, uh, Minneapolis person, that you didn't’ see the shooting? Rayann Hayes: No, | wasn't, they was, I was on the way to the hospital ***. SA Mike Phill: Did you hear it? Rayann Hayes: Did | hear it? No, | was, when I got in the ambulance they shot me with something ‘cause my ankle was broke ~ SA Mike Phill: Mm hmm, Rayann Hayes: ~and so didn't hear anything. They closed the door and | didn't hear anything. | was just, just hearing the people talk to me inside the van SA Mike Phill: Yeah, that’s pretty much what you told Minneapolis, | think. Rayann Hayes: Yeah, and I'm like, that's why I don't understand why they keep wanting me to tell them. | didn’t see anything, you know, and they tryin’ to ~ SA Mike Phill: How's the’ankle comin’? Rayann Hayes But the news people are trying to make it seem like, uh, he, he, he didn't, he never beat me up. There was never no fight. | don't know who said it was domestic. There was none of that. SA Chris Olson: Well, what happened to your ankle? How did you break it? Rayann Hayes: We were at a birthday party and | had on some heels like this high — SAChris Olson: Okay. Rayan Hayes: and I'm pulling away and | twisted my own ankle. He was on the ground trying to help me. I don't know what everybody was talking about he was beating me up and, it, | was drunk, but we all were really. SA Chris Olson: Okay. Rayann Hayes’ And | fell, like, | just got mad because everybody was making a big deal about i. Everybody's lying making up all these stories. | was just like, I'm just gonna, | know what I seen and what happened, so, you know, | don't know exactly what happened when I left. SAChris Olson: Okay. Did you, did you see, uh — CaseNumber. Date. Name Page 1 of 6Rayann Hayes: My daughter's, my daughter's baby's father was, he seen the whole thing. He was standing right in the doorway. SA Chris Olson: Okay. Did you actually see, uh, any kind of a struggle with the police? Rayann Hayes: No, SA Chris Olson: Between - Rayann Hayes: The police weren't even there. 1- SA Chris Olson: Okay. Rayann Hayes: | didn't even know the police were there. SAChris Olson: Okay. Rayan Hayes: When | was in the ambulance, | didn't even know the police, ‘cause when they took me in the ambulanee the police weren't even out there, SAChris Olson: Okay, so just two paramedics helping you out? Rayann Hayes: Yeah SAChris Olson: They brought you out in a chair and you were laying down in the ambulance, right — Rayann Hayes: Yeah, SAChris Olson: - ina gurney? Rayann Hayes: Yeah, SA Chris Olson: Okay. Uh, so the last thing we need to do is take some DNA from you, uh, if you'd be willing to — Rayann Hayes: For what? SA Chris Olson: Well, we're doing, uh, lab tests ~ SA Mike Phill: Jamar had some blood on him. SA Chris Olson: of Jamar's clothes. Rayann Hayes: Itwas probably mine. SA Chris Olson: Well, that's what we're trying to figure out. SA Mike Phill: *** got shot though, so that's what we're trying to figure Rayann Hayes: Oh, okay. SA Mike Phill: — maybe, so that's the only thing we've got to do. Rayann Hayes: Oh, that’s fine, SA Mike Phill: Just **. SAChris Olson: Gan we do that in the vestibule as opposed to out here, or don't you want us in the house? Rayann Hayes: Well, that's his house. I don't know. He's, he's an idiot, so SA Chris Olson: Allright. Rayann Hayes But that's fine. SA Mike Phill: | understand, i's his house and ~ Rayann Hayes Yeah he has *** it's was his blood and part of it was mine, ‘cause he was, you understand me? SA Mike Phill; You gotta respect that, CaseNumber.Date.Name Page 2 of 6SA Chris Olson: Did you, did something happen, did you get stitches or something to your face, or did you get an injury to your face that night? Rayann Hayes: SA Chris Olson: Rayann Hayes: SA Chris Olson: Rayann Hayes: SA Chris Olson’ Rayann Hayes: SA Chris Olson’ Rayann Hayes: ‘SA Chris Olson: Rayann Hayes: SA Chris Olson’ Rayann Hayes: SA Chris Olson: Rayann Hayes: No, my lip was bleeding. When | fell, when I fell my legs **** — Okay, My lip was bleeding - Okay, — but I didn't get no stitches or nothing like that. ‘Okay, well was he, uh, what was your relationship to Jamar? We're friends. Okay, He lived, his sister lived downstairs from my daughter. All right. So, according to, were you romantically involved with him or — No, Not so much? No, Okay, And that’s another thing, like, they're saying he's my boyfriend, I'm **** SA Mike Phill: If you just open wide, I'm just gonna rub the inside of your cheek. Rayann Hayes: Oh, okay. SA Mike Phill: Okay? Thank you. Right side, now left side. Its — SA Chris Olson: Rayann Hayes: SA Chris Olson: Rayann Hayes: SA Chris Olson Rayan Hayes: SA Chris Olson’ You ever have this done before? No. All right Its weird. Quick and painless, right? Yeah. So, will you do me a favor? | gave you my business card. Will you just kinda stay in touch with me periodically — Rayan Hayes: SA Chris Olson: Rayann Hayes: SA Chris Olson: Rayann Hayes: SA Chris Olson: Rayan Hayes SA Chris Olson’ Rayan Hayes: SA Chris Olson: Yes. ‘cause you're really important to this. I know you don't feel like you are, but, uh — Its crazy, —do you have, like, an email or something we can ~ Um- = talk to each other, or | don't know what you're comfortable doing, or texting or ~ No, | can, | have a phone but | have no minutes on the phone. Okay. So, but do you have an email that you check every once in awhile? No, Okay, so just your phone? How long have you had that number? CaseNumber Date. Name Page 3 ofRayann Hayes: Um, a few months maybe. SAChris Olson: Okay, um - SA Mike Phil If we got you @ phone with minutes just so you could keep in contact with Agent Olson, is that okay? Rayann Hayes: I mean, yeah, | will talk to you guys, I'm just, | didn't want to talk to the news and all the news people they want me to, I'm, | don't want to do all that. ‘SA Mike Phill: Okay. Rayan Hayes: ‘Cause, you know, they're like — SAChris Olson; Yeah, | don't blame ya, Rayann Hayes; _— they're looking for someone else to blame besides the police. I'm lke, they can't, you can't blame me for the police shooting him. SA Mike Phill: No, absolutely not. SA Chris Olson: No. Rayann Hayes: You know? ‘SA Mike Phill: No. Rayann Hayes: Like his family and stuf, | don't, that's why | said I don't want to be involved. SA Chris Olson: Well, no, like I said, |, | appreciate you keeping a low profile, Right? Rayann Hayes: Yeah. SAChris Olson: So Rayann Hayes: Um = SA Chris Olson: Just, | just want to make sure that you're not avoiding us. Rayan Hayes: No, | was avoiding everyone else. SA Chris Olson: Okay, all right, well that's smart. Rayann Hayes: "Cause | didn't want to, you know? SA Chris Olson: Now are you gonna be here awhile? Rayann Hayes: _ All that stuff was crazy. SA Chris Olson: Do you think you're gonna be hanging your hat here for awhile? Rayann Hayes: No. I'll probably, | just come over here once in awhile. SA Chris Olson: Okay. SA Mike Phill: If we brought you a phone could we bring it here? Rayan Hayes: Um = SA Mike Phill: You could have a phone with minutes just so we, we can contact you? Rayan Hayes: I don't know — SA Mike Phill: **** your daughter's, here, where do you want it? Rayann Hayes: Um, I've really been out in Brookiyn Park with my cousin, s0, | mean, but that's far, it like Orchard, 60-something and Orchard. | don't know the whole address. SA Chris Olson: Okay. ‘SA Mike Phill: Okay. ‘CaseNumber Date. Name Page 4 of 6Rayann Hayes: But, | mean, if you would, if you could drop it off at my daughter's | could get it from her. SA Chris Olson: Uh, is that, uh — Rayann Hayes: And | know, I can't evén, she can bring it to me because | don't even go down there. SA Mike Phill: You don't “** over there anymore — Rayann Hayes: No. SA Mike Phill: -**** that | ~ SA Chris Olson: So you~ Rayann Hayes: They stil, her family stil ives downstairs and, like, they're harassing my daughter every single day. SAChris Olson: And that's, what's your daughter’s name? Rayann Hayes Shamira. SAChris Olson: Sharmira Fein? Rayann Hayes: ce SA Chris Olson: Oh, Finn?’ Rayann Hayes: Finn, yeah, SA Chris Olson: Okay. Do you stay in touch with her? Rayann Hayes: Well, | talked to her on the phone. She told me you guys were looking for me, but she didn't say you guys, she said the news people, and I'm, like, I'm not talking to no news people, SAChris Olson: Okay. | just talked to her about a week ago and, uh, she said, uh, she doesn't talk to you that much ~ Rayann Hayes: No. | talked to her, lke, two days ago. SAChris Olson: Okay. ‘SA Mike Phill: We're good. Rayann Hayes: ‘Something like that SA Chris Olson; Allright? ‘SA Mike Phill: We're good. SAChris Olson; **** Rayann Hayes: Yeah, | talked to her, like, two days ago. ‘SA Chris Olson: Well, so hang onto my card and ~ Rayann Hayes: Ub huh, SAChris Olson: — just kind of keep me, uh, let's turn into friends. Let's talk like once a week if that’s cool? Rayann Hayes: Okay, yeah. SAChris Olson; I'm not a bad guy. Rayann Hayes: Okay. SAChris Olson: Um, and then if you need something, uh, you need to reach out to me. Rayan Hayes: Okay. SA Chris Olson: Okay? CaseNumber.Date.Name Page 5 of 6Rayann Hayes: Okay, that's fine. SAChris Olson: Allright. It was a pleasure meeting you. Rayann Hayes: Okay. SA Mike Phill: Thank you very much. Rayann Hayes: You understand I don't want to talk to no news people, SA Mike Phil How long you gonna have that boot? It should be healed up soon, right? Rayann Hayes’ No, my ankle is, like ‘SA Mike Phill: Its not healing right? Rayann Hayes: Right. SA Mike Phill: Oh. Rayan Hayes: So | gotta wear it unti it gets straight. SAChris Olson: Allright, well, you wear it well. It looks good on ya. Rayan Hayes: Okay. CaseNumber.Date.Name Page 6 of 6