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SIMATIC
WinCC
WinCC flexible 2008 SP3 Update 5
System Manual
Online help printout
05/2014
Validity
Solved problems
Installation
Legal information
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Table of contents
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Validity..........................................................................................................................................................5
Solved problems...........................................................................................................................................7
2.1
General information.......................................................................................................................7
2.2
Solved problems in Update 5........................................................................................................7
2.3
Solved problems in Update 4........................................................................................................9
2.4
Solved problems in Update 3......................................................................................................13
2.5
2.6
Installation..................................................................................................................................................19

System Manual, 05/2014
Validity
Validity
This update is valid for the following WinCC flexible 2008 SP3 editions:
WinCC flexible 2008 SP3 Compact / Standard / Advanced
WinCC flexible 2008 SP3 ASIA Standard / Advanced
WinCC flexible 2008 SP3 China
WinCC flexible 2008 SP3 Runtime
Installation
To install the update, please follow the instructions in the chapter "Installation".

Solved problems
2.1
General information
General information
General information that could not be included in the manual or Online Help for WinCC flexible
2008 SP3.
Character set for Chinese font
Chinese font is now supported in data type "String" for connections to SIMATIC S7 300/400.
Activate the "Chinese (VR)" option in the Engineering System. The CP936 code page is now
used instead of the ASCII code page.
The option is available for the following devices:
MP 377
WinCC flexible Runtime
2.2
Solved problems in Update 5
MP 277 8'' Key; MP 277 8'' Touch; MP 277 10'' Key; MP 277 10'' Touch
To ensure the availability of spare parts for the devices MP 277 8'' Key, MP 277 8'' Touch, MP
277 10'' Key, MP 277 10'' Touch, the products had to be changed. A new operating system
image is necessary to support these changes.
Projects for an MP 277 need to be upgraded. Backup from a predecessor device and restore
to a successor device is not possible.
In addition to Update 5, you need the current version of ProSave, which you can download
from the following link:
http://support.automation.siemens.com/WW/view/en/10347815
Devices affected:
MP 277 10'' Touch
MP 277 10'' Key
MP 277 8'' Touch
MP 277 8'' Key

6AV6643-0CD01-1AX
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6AV6643-0DD01-1AX
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6AV6643-0CB01-1AX
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6AV6643-0DB01-1AX
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MP 277 10'' Touch V26AV6643-0CD01-1AX2

MP 277 10'' Key V2 6AV6643-0DD01-1AX2
MP 277 8'' Touch V2 6AV6643-0CB01-1AX2
MP 277 8'' Key V2
6AV6643-0DB01-1AX2
Solved problems
2.2 Solved problems in Update 5
Note
MP 277 devices in integrated projects
To be able to use a V2 device in an integrated project, you first need to execute the command
"Options > Update Catalog" in the hardware configuration of STEP 7.
This update rectifies the following problems in the Engineering System and optimizes configuration
scenarios:
ProAgent screen object "Detail view"
Using multiple instances of the ProAgent screen object "Detail view" with different display types
(STL, LAD, symbol) can cause WinCC flexible to crash and can result in undefined behavior
in Runtime.
Text lists
After copying a text list entry with copy and paste or drag-and-drop, the text entry of the
source turns orange.
After copying a text list with copy and paste or drag-and-drop, all text entries of the source
turn orange.
The option button for selecting the "default" value can no longer be switched directly to
another text list entry. The selected value must first be deselected.
Change log
When the change log is active, error messages are output in the output window when screen
objects that contain a formatted text, such as text fields, are edited.
Screen navigation
1. When screens are added in the "Screen navigation" editor using drag-and-drop, the screen
is only removed after a mouse click in the editor on the "Unused screens" drop-down list.
2. When the "Add to screen navigation" button is clicked, a screen is inserted in the screen
navigation but only activated after a mouse click in the editor.
Exporting texts from faceplates
After the export has been executed, no files will be created with the exported texts.
This update corrects the following problems in Runtime:

Error after transfer with enabled Simatic Logon option
When Simatic Logon is enabled in the project and a transfer to the HMI device then takes
place, Runtime does not start and transfer mode becomes active again on the HMI device.

Solved problems
2.3
scenarios:
Missing toolbox after program start
After the application has been reset, the toolbox may be missing.
Missing tests in the export file
Texts that originate from a converted ProTool project are exported incompletely.
Internal error during generating
The "DateTime" data type in bit messages results in an internal error message while the project
is being compiled.
Error during opening of libraries
Under Windows 7 it is possible that the application freezes when a library is opened.
Error message of the message display on HMI devices
If you configure more than 2,047 objects in one screen with a tab sequence in WinCC flexible,
the message display shows an error message.
HMI device change with configured WinAC MP
When the HMI device type is switched over at a configured WinAC MP, the configuration of
WinAC MP is lost.
No folder structures when messages are imported
Exported folder structures are not available when messages are imported.
Error when terminating WinCC flexible
Under Windows 7 unexpected behavior can occur when the operating system is terminated,
if WinCC flexible is still opened.
Progress bar is displayed on the wrong monitor
On systems with several monitors progress bars may be displayed on the wrong monitor.
Crash during "Save as version"
When a project that was migrated across several WinCC flexible versions is saved with "Save
as version", the application may crash.
Crash during mass generation
If an object is excluded from the tab sequence and duplicated through mass generation, the
application crashes.
Crash at non-supported device
If you open a project which contains devices not supported by the edition of WinCC flexible
with which it is opened, it crashes.

Solved problems
Internal error during generation
If a project that contains more than 10,000 objects of the same type is compiled, compiling
aborts with an internal error.
Error during generation
If an animation is configured at a faceplate and a value changing event is added or removed,
this change is not included in compiling.
Error while printing the project documentation
The "Lower limit" property of structure elements is not printed when the project documentation
is generated.
Increase in project file size during generation
If a project contains STEP 7 enumerations, the HMI file size increases every time it is compiled.
Connections to SINAMICS S120 not possible
Since Update 3 a direct connection between HMI devices and SINAMICS 120 control systems
is no longer possible.
Increase in the size of temporary files during conversion
If a project with many texts is converted from a previous WinCC flexible version, the size of
the temporary files can exceed the size of the system partition.
Display of STEP 7 messages
Under certain circumstances messages are displayed without text. Only the parameters are
visible.
Path display while importing and exporting records
The display of the drive character is faulty during the import and export of records.
Missing comments at faceplates
In certain scenarios faceplate comments are lost during copying.
Error while exporting multilanguage texts
When a multilanguage text export is started from STEP 7, not all the texts are exported.
Error during automatic translation
Dictionary entries cannot be translated if the resultant entry exceeds 500 characters.
Missing warning at incompletely displayed message indicator
If the message indicator exceeds the screen limits, no warning message is output during
translation.
Project cannot be opened
Projects that were last edited on Azerbaijani system can no longer be opened on systems with
a different language.
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Solved problems
This update fixes the following problems in Runtime and optimizes configuration scenarios:
Updating of bit messages
After the communication connection to control systems has been disconnected, it is possible
that bit messages are no longer updated automatically. Improvements have been carried out
here.
Devices affected:
OP73
Display of number formats
Improvements have been carried out in the display of floating-point and exponential numbers.
Devices affected:
Basic Panels
TP177A
System function "SetBitWhileKeyPressed"
Weaknesses in the equilibrium of the system function "SetBitWhileKeyPressed" eliminated.
Devices affected:
Basic Panels
Downloading archives via Web server
When you download archives via the Web server, failed downloads can result.
Devices affected:
PC Runtime
Window CE-based HMI devices
OPC server
If you use an OPC server, problems can arise while Runtime is being started or stopped.
Devices affected:
PC Runtime
Window CE-based x77 HMI devices
Communication over Modicon Modbus TCP/IP
If you use Modicon Modbus TCP/IP as the communication driver, it is possible that Runtime
no longer starts.
Devices affected:
Mobile Panel 277 (F) IWLAN V2
ProAgent: Objects in the motion display
If you select the "All" motion control in ProAgent for the motion display, the arrows and
command buttons of the motions are no longer visible.
Devices affected:

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Solved problems
PC Runtime
Windows CE HMI devices
Filter in the message window
If you activate a filter in the message window, it is possible that the filter is still set and can no
longer be deactivated when the message window is opened again.
Devices affected:
PC Runtime
Connection problems with TS adapters
Connection problems can occur when TS adapters are used in Runtime.
Devices affected:
PC Runtime
ProAgent: Motion display with selected line
If you have activated the "Selected" motion mode in the motion display, it is possible that a
line is selected automatically during the screen formation.
Devices affected:
PC Runtime
Missing Help texts
In exceptional cases it is possible that the Help texts are not displayed correctly in Runtime.
Devices affected:
PC Runtime
System function "SendEmail"
Some language-specific characters are occasionally displayed incorrectly when the
"SendEmail" system function is used.
Devices affected:
PC Runtime
Importing recipes
Importing recipe records from WinCC flexible 2008 or another previous version occasionally
results in errors.
Devices affected:
PC Runtime
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Solved problems
Disabling program switching
If you use the option "Disable program switching" and start external programs in your project,
the Windows taskbar can still be used under Windows 7.
Devices affected:
PC Runtime
Simulation crash
If you store a set of tag values in the Runtime Simulator and open it again, a crash may occur.
2.4
scenarios:
Pack&Go on Windows operating systems
A Pack&Go file that you create on a 64-bit system may not be fully functional on a 32-bit system.
A Pack&Go file that you create on a 32-bit system may not be fully functional on a 64-bit system.
Transfer in SIMATIC Manager
If you are using SIMATIC Manager to transfer a project to an HMI device you cannot edit certain
transfer settings.
PLC connection of symbolic tags cannot be clearly defined
If several connections to the PLC are active, you cannot determine which of the configured
connections is used by the tag during runtime.
Selecting the hardware component in the tag dialog
The tag dialog displays hardware components that do not contain tags that can be used for
HMI devices.
Compiling projects with formatted text
Compilation of a project with formatted text and tags with invalid reference fails with a nonspecific error message.
OP 77A: Error message with system function "SetBit"
If you assign the "SetBit" system function to the <ESC> key on the OP 77A HMI device, the
following error message may be output during compilation of the project: "object xxxx is marked
to be activated but does not exist.
Tab order of the object groups
The tab order differs, depending on whether or not the graphic objects are grouped..
Tab order in screens and faceplates
Incorrect processing of the tab order in screens with faceplates.

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Solved problems
Converting projects
Conversion of a project that contains invalid tag interconnections will fail.
System function "ActivateClearingScreen" on MP 377 15'' Touch daylight readable
System function "ActivateClearingScreen" is not available on the MP 377 15 Touch daylight
readable HMI device.
Windows 7: Graphic objects in the template
After you configure graphic objects in the template and then change the user interface
language, the configured objects are no longer visible.
This behavior occurs only in Windows 7.
Incorrect message for code page CP936
An incorrect message informing you that code page CP939 is being used is output during
generation of a project with code page CP936.
This update fixes the following problems in Runtime and optimizes configuration scenarios:
Printing reports
Certain printers may output an incorrect layout when printing the report.
Devices affected:
PC Runtime
<Enter> key on the on-screen keyboard
Pressing the <Enter> key on the on-screen keyboard may trigger an unwanted input.
Devices affected:
PC Runtime
Step View in ProAgent
A click in the space next to a sequencer object in ProAgent followed by an activation of system
function "SequencerScreenActivateStep" may cause problems in the connected S7 PLC.
Devices affected:
PC Runtime
Motion View in ProAgent
Exceeding the number of rows that can be displayed in the Motion View may lead to problems
when you select a row.
Devices affected:
PC Runtime
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Solved problems
Archives in Runtime
Due to different time characteristics on certain systems, random problems may occur during
archiving at the start of Runtime or at the call of system function "OpenAllArchives".
Devices affected:
PC Runtime
Serial communication using the Modbus protocol
Setup of a canceled connection may fail on specific devices that are connected by means of
MODBUS RTU. Moreover, incorrect values are possibly transmitted to the PLC from the panel
if data types "Double" or "Float" are used.
Devices affected:
KTP1000 Basic color DP
Communication over Modbus TCP/IP
Incorrect data is possibly exchanged between the PLC and the panel if data types Double or
Float are used.
Devices affected:
OP 77A
TP 177A
Displaying strings
If you are using an S7 200 PLC, a tag of the type "String" may be appended by additional
characters at random intervals.
Devices affected:
Basic Panels
OP 73
OP 77A
TP 177A
Setting up a serial connection
During the setup of a serial connection, a change of the parity at the serial interface my prevent
setup of the connection.
Devices affected:
Serial communication with OMRON PLCs
Read errors may develop for specific data types in connections with OMRON PLCs.
Devices affected:

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Solved problems
OP 77A
TP 177A
Events on buttons
Basic Panels may not properly recognize the "Press" and "Release" events assigned to a
button during configuration of system functions.
Connections between transponder and Mobile Panel 277F IWLAN
Unreliable behavior of transponder connections may develop on certain Mobile Panel 277
IWLAN devices. Update the OS of the Mobile Panels and transfer your project once again.
2.5
This update corrects the following problems:

Missing Properties window
Sections of the Properties window are not displayed for devices of the /Sinumerik option.
Errors in rewiring
Tag names contained in the message texts are incorrectly linked during rewiring.
Incorrect display in the screen navigation
If you select a navigation bar, the properties are not displayed in the Properties window.
Editing text lists is slow
The selection of a text entry list can take several seconds for large text lists.
Temporary folder is not deleted
A STEP 7 project with a WinCC flexible component is archived in the root directory of a drive
with the Simatic Manager. Result: The temporary directory "TMPSTUFF_HMIES_0001" is not
deleted.
No column headings in export files
Empty fields in the export file cause the column headers to be without column heading.
Double entries in audit trail
If you have configured a tag at a switch, duplicate entries appear in the audit trail.
Long synchronization times
If a project containing ProAgent components and a large number of messages is opened,
synchronization takes a long time. If you set the key "<add key
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Solved problems
="DisableInitialProAgentMessageSync" value="true"/>" in the HmiES.exe.config file, the initial
synchronization is skipped. To start synchronization again, select "Project> Rebuild All".
WinCC flexible projects integrated in SIMOTION SCOUT: Drag-and-Drop with multiple
selection in the symbol table
Select multiple tags in the symbol table and drag the tags to a screen using drag-and-drop.
Multiple selection does not work reliably. Sometimes objects from an earlier multiple selection
are inserted in the screen.
WinCC flexible projects integrated in SIMOTION SCOUT: Projects with write protection can
be edited
You convert a project created with an earlier version of SIMOTION SCOUT to the current
version. When you open it, you specify whether the converted project should be opened with
or without write protection. The fix prevents the WinCC flexible components against editing
when the read-only project is opened.
WinCC flexible projects integrated in SIMOTION SCOUT: Missing HMI nodes
Projects created with an earlier version of SIMOTION SCOUT are converted to the latest
version of SIMOTION SCOUT. If you convert the project directly after installing WinCC flexible
and open it as read-only, sometimes no HMI nodes are displayed in the project tree.
WinCC flexible projects integrated in SIMOTION SCOUT: Search function with "Any HMI
object" filter
If WinCC flexible integration is enabled in SIMOTION SCOUT, you can activate the "Any HMI
object" filter for the search. The filter was also offered when the WinCC flexible integration had
been disabled in SIMOTION SCOUT. Searching with this filter makes SIMOTION SCOUT no
longer operable.
WinCC flexible projects integrated in SIMOTION SCOUT: Opening read-only projects
Opening converted projects with write protection and non-converted projects results in the
following behavior: You can also insert read-only HMI projects in the project tree.
Missing message for undefined date values in the alarm view
If there is an attempt to write an invalid date to the controller, sometimes no error message is
displayed.
Indirect addressing of tags
Tags that use address or DB multiplexing, show no values on the HMI device.
Values in the recipe display
If you import and save recipe records from CPU to the recipe view, the previous values can
be displayed after the saving.
Devices affected:
Window CE HMI devices
PC Runtime

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Solved problems
Missing Arial font in Runtime
You use the Arial font in a project. If you use the on-screen keyboard on an HMI device, the
font may not be displayed the next time you start Runtime.
Devices affected:
Users cannot log off
You use Audit in your project.
It can happen that the user can no longer log off if the archive cannot be accessed.
Devices affected:
PC Runtime
Missing archive entries
If you switch off the HMI device without shutting down Runtime, the last archive entries might
not be written. This behavior has been improved, but it is still recommended to shut down
Runtime before switching off the HMI device.
Devices affected:
Sm@rtService license when using VNC
If you use a VNC solution from a third party, a Sm@rtService license may be required.
2.6
Security update
We have been recently informed about vulnerabilities in WinCC flexible. These claims have
been thoroughly investigated by our specialists and the security loopholes in WinCC flexible
have been closed.
Our internal investigation also uncovered additional security loopholes in Sm@rtService (web
pages).
Update 1 for WinCC flexible 2008 SP3 closes these security loopholes as well.
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Installation
Requirements
This update requires one of the following WinCC flexible installations:
WinCC flexible 2008 SP3 Compact / Standard / Advanced
WinCC flexible 2008 SP3 ASIA Standard / Advanced
WinCC flexible 2008 SP3 China
WinCC flexible 2008 SP3 Runtime
Install the update on your configuration PC and Runtime PC.
Procedure
To install the update, proceed as follows:
1. Double-click on the "WinCCflexible2008_SP3_upd5.exe" file.
2. Select "C:\WinCCflexible2008_SP3_UPD5" as the installation folder in the "WinZip SelfExtractor" dialog.
3. Enable "When done unzipping open .\setup.exe" and exit the dialog by clicking "Unzip".
4. Open your project on the configuration PC.
5. Execute a full compilation with the menu command "Project > Compiler > Rebuild All...".
6. Transfer the project to the HMI device once again.

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Solved problems in Update 4........................................................................................................9

Solved problems in Update 3......................................................................................................13

Solved problems in Update 2......................................................................................................16

Solved problems in Update 1......................................................................................................18

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