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These mutations occur willy-nilly, regardless of Barbara McClintock induced mutations in her corn
whether they are good or bad for the individual. plants. Yes, those mutations were willy-nilly from
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whether they are good or
bad for the individual. plants. Yes, those mutations were willy-nilly from
But it is the ltering of that variation by natural
radiation. But the plants surprised Barabara by
selection that produces adaptations, and
repairing their DNA. They moved missing code
natural selection is manifestly not random. It is from elsewhere and built new code. The
a powerful molding force, accumulating genes
adaptations were anything but willy-nilly.
that have a greater chance of being passed on
Her colleagues thought she was crazy. But she
than others (Jerry Coyne, Why Evolution Is
won the Nobel Prize in 1983 for discovering DNA
True)
transposition. (James Shapiro, Evolution: A View from
the 21st Century)
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symbiogenesis
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Check for yourself. Search Google Books for hybridization and transposition and symbiogenesis
and horizontal gene transfer in Dawkins and Nyes and Coynes books.
Experimental biologists who make antibiotics and develop gene therapies harness these systems all the
time. They dont simply rely on random mutation and natural selection. They harness the cells built-in
systems as much as possible.
The red-hot new CRISPR gene-editing technology is actually humans co-opting the bacterial immune
system. The reason we are able to edit genes with such precision now is because were hitching a ride
with the tools of the Post-Modern Synthesis.
The geocentric view of the universe was once embraced by everyone.
Today its an embarrassment.
IBM once reigned as the supreme computer supplier.
How many of your friends today own an IBM?
The taxi industry once dominated in every major city.
Now Uber and Lyft are ripping them to shreds.
Yahoo! was once king of online advertising.
Verizon bought them out for for 1% of the current value of Google.
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D. Andrew White says:
August 15, 2016 at 9:29 am
There are inuences of teleonomy (autopoiesis) that bias mutation and
selection to some degree. (Evolvability traits.) These traits are still physical,
and can be modelled with systems theory. Evan Thompson and Eva
Jablonka, for example, discuss these. But, it is a bit of a straw man to say
Dawkins is unaware of these developments.
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Eduardo says:
August 16, 2016 at 10:17 am
You distorted what Dr. Richard Dawkins meant about epigenetics. Citing
the whole quote about the issue, we have:
Obviously weve long known that some genes are turned on, and other
genes are not turned on, in dierent tissues. The trendy thing is the
allegation that a few of these turnings on or o get passed onto the next
generation.
Thats the bit that gets all the hype and doesnt deserve to.
That heritable switching, he remarks, aects only a few genes and
fades after a few generations. Its not of evolutionary signi cance; it
doesnt go on in the way that mutation does which is forever, unless it
gets selected out.
So, clearly, he didnt dismiss epigenetics, but the idea that the switches
are passed through hundreds of generations in the same way that DNA
does.
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Greg says:
August 22, 2016 at 4:17 am
Do you have any YouTube videos where you talk about this stu? I
think a lot of what youve said is bunk, but Im very interested in Post
Neo-Darwinism.
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Greg says:
August 22, 2016 at 4:18 am
BTW, Email me when you get this. GreenSlugg.com is my website,
and my Email address is GreenSlugg@gmail.com
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Said says:
August 23, 2016 at 11:03 pm
But, tell me this: do you call it autopoiesis as a metaphore or is an applied
term for this study? Thanks!
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That is absolutely false and there is no actual evidence this is true. They
say the rest is natural selection, population genetics and gene ow; and
while thats true in a very limited sense they tell you next to nothing
about symbiogenesis, horizontal gene transfer, transposition,
epigenetics, genome doubling through hybridization, or endogenous
retroviruses. Most large evolutionary changes are one of those six
things. So if they tell you three things that are true, one thing that is
false, and leave out six things that are vital, 60% wrong is roughly the
score.
3. Read Nessa Careys book and James Shapiros book and then lets talk
about epigenetics.
4. Read Shapiros Evolution: A View from the 21st Century and youll
nd out that (A) the ability to speed mutations rates is ESSENTIAL to
evolution and (B) I dont care if Nye knows this or not, he didnt tell you.
Thus Nyes book does not even pass a basic rst year grad student fact
check. And that is a fact. 30 years out of date.
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important AND for other mutations it basically works in the same way.
Except for epigenetics that are not hardcoded and are therefore,
despite the hype NOT a major source for long term evolution
3 Shapiro is not exactly a good example of a trusted scientist. His work
is heavily crititized by many scientists.
4 What is your problem with Bill Nye, as said and as even agreed upon
by Bill Nye, he is NOT a scientist, rather a science promoter, and far
from a biologist. The dierence between Bill Nye and you is that Bill
accepts when he is wrong, as he recently did in the GMO debate,
when he correctly changed sides based on evidence.
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Juan says:
August 21, 2016 at 11:02 pm
I agree, the article is hiperbolic. Not I ne way to write in science.
The Sel sh Gene have problems, and some ideas for discussing, But was a
book for explaining evolution in the social sciences, and for that it had a
good eect. I agree with others who claim that Dawkins is not
misunderstanding the importance of epigenetics.
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MaGaO says:
August 22, 2016 at 6:37 pm
There is the fact of evolution: the inescapable fact that strata is dierent
enough ages will have dierent fossils.
Then there is the theory of evolution (namely, that new characteristics
appear in a population an the individuals with some advantage tend to
propagate their characteristics). In fact, there are several theories of
evolution but the one derived from Darwin is the only one standing (groso
modo)
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bruce h. says:
August 23, 2016 at 7:33 pm
I am not a scientist or even a student of science but i do have a question i
would like someone to answer.from what i have read the act of evolution
has taken millons of years to accomplish. I read the other day in an article
that the sun is shrinking at a rate of 2.5 ft. per hr on the radius. If this is true
life on earth could not have existed even 100,000 yrs ago. 20 million yrs ago
the surface of the sun would be touching the surface of the earth (if that
were possible without destroying te earth) if my math is correct how then
can these vast amounts of time for evolution to work be correct
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