THIEF & CROSS-3D

IN THE NAME OF THE LORD

The scriptures tell us almost nothing about the thiefs life. However, the scriptures tell us a great deal about Christ lifeJesus had been
around for 3.5 years before the cross and was Baptizing (Jn 4:1-2 in fact He instructed his disciples to do so and did many more then John the
Baptist ever did) ..Those who try to appeal to the thief on the cross assume the thief had never heard of Jesus preaching and had never ever
been baptized.The burden of Proof is on those who say baptism is not essential! ..You cant claim a logically valid nonessentiality doctrinal argument on ANYTHING based on what the scriptures do not say and in spite of the things it clearly does state to the
opposite effect!That is like looking at the constitutional law and then basing a argument against a constitutional principle in law based on the
fact that history did not record for us what some unknown cattle thief did or did not do a 150 years ago?!?! What??..Who cares?? We know
what the constitution did say 150 years ago. I dont know of any Law school that bases its teaching on constitutional law based on what history
does not tell us about unknown cattle thieves!?! ..Jesus command, preached & practiced Baptism so did the apostles .To build ones theology
on the fact that the scriptures do not tell us ANY detail(s) of the thiefs life before the cross (we know almost absolutely nothing about the
thief!!) it is quite foolish and willfully ignorant of what the scriptures do say about baptism.so those who try to use the thief are in effect
building their house on the sand of what scriptures do not say about a thief in spite of what the scriptures do specifically tell us about
baptism!?! Their damnation is just comes to mind. This is to be expected particularly since the scriptures are written in such as way
as to fulfill the following:
2 Thess 2:11And for this cause God shall send them STRONG DELUSION, that they should believe a lie: THAT THEY all might be
DAMNED who BELIEVED NOT the truth.
God saves man ..man cannot save himself and Baptism is a work of God (Col 2:12 shown below) NOT a work of man. God could have
chosen any number of other ways to save us. In fact, if God had wanted to HE could have saved us even without faith!! God determined that
Faith is essential for salvation for the same reason and in the same way that God not man Chose to save us via a Work or operation of God at
baptism. The issue is not what God could have done but What God did and How God chose to work on man. IF you have no faith in the
operation / Work of God on you at Baptism then you have no Faith!!
Col 2:12 Buried with him IN BAPTISM, wherein also ye are risen with him THROUGH THE FAITH
of God,

OF THE OPERATION

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved THROUGH FAITH; and that NOT OF YOURSELVES: it is the GIFT OF GOD:
Notice :1 Without faith the grace and the baptism are moot. Likewise without the baptism the grace and faith are moot(nonexistent) in the same
way and for the same reasons. 2. Faith is also a Gift of God, but the faith is in the name of God and the name whereby we are saved is The
word of God..
2 Tim 3:15.. THROUGH FAITH which is IN

CHRIST JESUS

Acts 3:16 THROUGH FAITH in HIS

NAME..

1John 3:23. And this is his commandment, That we should BELIEVE on THE

NAME.

Take Note of: Mat 28: 19 IN THE NAME OF : The father is NOT a name; the son is NOT a name; The holy spirit is NOT
a name. God is only one God with one name that saves us.what is that name of God that we are baptized into that saves us ??
Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and
Acts 4:12 for there is

HIS NAME IS called THE WORD OF GOD.

NONE OTHER NAME under heaven given among men, WHEREBY WE MUST BE SAVED.

Psalms 138: 2. I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for

THOU HAS

MAGNIFIED THY WORD ABOVE ALL THY NAME. God uses many different names but "THE WORD"
(the substance not the letters that spell "the word") is the Highest name of ALL and ANY OTHER NAME that God uses.

CONTEXTUAL DEMONSTRATIONS:
A. Col 2:12 he believes does not state that baptism is a working or operation of God - they believe
that it is talking about faith being a working of God.
Col 2:12. Buried with him in baptism, wherein also YE ARE RISEN with him THROUGH the
FAITH OF the OPERATION of God, who hath RAISED HIM from the dead. It is called
wresting the scriptures (2Peter 3:15-16) .You/he should notice that the object of the operation
(prepositional phrase) is not the word faith but rather the resurrection whereby Christ was raised
from the dead via the operation of God and how that is akin to the operation wherein also ye are

risen via baptism.RISEN/ RAISED is the object of the prepositional phrase here.Faith
is NOT the object of the prepositional phrase in any language. The faith is IN/OF the operation
it is not a operation OF faith ..He is rearranging the words in the sentence I can rewrite any
passage to say what I want to say..For anyone to attempt to claim that this verse is showing that
that the operation here in this verse is a operation of faith rather then a operation of being Risen
and raised by the power of God is not just twisting the words/meaning but is a outright delusion
that flatly rejects reality!..You cant help folks who stare at the obvious reality, the sky is blue
but they then deny that and insist it is yellowsometimes it can be helpful to be crude so at
to drive a point homeso I believe moneys fly at night on the broomsticks left outside the
house.so what?!?!.
Further all these arguments about faith alone or works or sanctification and justification are all
moot if you understand the relationship between THE WORD of God and Jesus as well as THE
WORDS that Jesus spoke (John 3:34).
Acts 3:16 THROUGH FAITH in HIS NAME(1John
.

3:23).

Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and HIS NAME IS called

THE

WORD OF GOD.
Acts 4:12 for there is NONE OTHER NAME under heaven given among men, whereby WE
MUST BE SAVED.
Psalms 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness

THOUS HAS MAGNIFIED THY WORD

ABOVE ALL THY NAME. 3. IN THE DAY WHEN I cried thou
and for thy truth: for

answeredst me, and strengthenedst me with strength in my soul. 4. All the kings of the earth shall
praise thee, O Lord, when they hear the words of thy mouth. 7. Though I walk IN THE MIDST
OF TROUBLE, (Mat 24:29) THOU WILT REVIVE ME: (Lk 21:28) .
John 1:1. In the beginning was the Word, and THE WORD was with God, and the Word was God.

THE WORD

MADE FLESH, and

2. The same was in the beginning with God.. 14. And

was
dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

ERGO The word IS Jesus,. and our faith is IN the words!?!

2 Tim 3:15.. THROUGH FAITH which is IN CHRIST JESUS

John 6:63

THE WORDS that I speak unto you, THEY ARE SPIRIT, and they are LIFE (also

note verse 35 & 48 Jesus is the bread is the words that we are to eat; how can you eat
literally or figuratively words you do not keep, obey and or take into yourself?)
Jesus.who IS ..THE WORD, is the Gift/Grace!?! Faith in His NAME which is the WORD, not the letters that spell out "word" but the
substance/spirit. Thus, when you deny the commands you deny the word, You deny his name as such Christ himself!?! (Luke 1:19; Acts 11:23
23. Who, when he came, and HAD SEEN THE GRACE OF GOD,) GRACE is NOT some ethereal concept!?!.

Eph 2:8 For by

GRACE are ye saved THROUGH FAITH; and that NOT OF YOURSELVES: it is the

GIFT OF GOD:
John 3:13. And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the
Son of man which is in heaven.16. For God so loved the world, that
begotten
life.

HE GAVE his only

SON, that whosoever BELIEVETH IN HIM should not perish, but have everlasting

What did God give?..............Jesus, His son.THE WORD !?!!

The spirit & life is in THE WORD; THE WORD is what we were Given and what
we are to have FAITH IN; We are NOT to have faith in Jesus (which is a mistransliteration of
the word in the first place) NO! We are to have Faith in THE WORD which came in the flesh
we commonly call Jesus; understand and know the difference
Acts 19:5. When they heard this, THEY WERE
LORD JESUS.

BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF THE

B. He wants to know whether Cornelius was saved when he received the Holy Spirit or was he saved
when he was baptized. The question is moot!..Why?....because Cornelius received THE WORD/ THE
SPIRIT of God, THE NAME of Lord. Gods commands are the spirit and word, thus at any time in
Cornelius life had he refused that word of God then he would have been lost. Once he was told about
baptism he had only one of two choicesobey it in faith that it would save him or deny that word/name/
refuse to obey it in faith and be damned!
Acts 10:1. There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called
the Italian band, 5. And now send men to Joppa, and call for one Simon, whose surname is
Peter: 6. He lodgeth with one Simon a tanner, whose house is by the sea side: he shall tell thee
WHAT THOU OUGHTEST TO DO. 33. that thou art come. Now therefore are WE
ALL HERE present before God, TO HEAR ALL THINGS THAT ARE COMMANDED thee
of God. 36. The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by
Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:) 37. That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout
all Judaea, and BEGAN from Galilee, AFTER the BAPTISM WHICH JOHN PREACHED;
(this Note ho verse 37 here also goes with the answer to question #2 above; Johns baptism was
only making preparation for Christ himself) 47. Can any man forbid water, that these should not
be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? 48. And he commanded them to
be BAPTIZED IN THE NAME of the Lord. .
Acts 22: 10. And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into
Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all THINGS WHICH ARE APPOINTED FOR
THEE TO DO.16. And now why tarriest thou? arise, and BE BAPTIZED, and wash away thy
sins, CALLING on THE NAME of the Lord..
Acts 2:21. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall CALL on THE NAME of the
Lord shall be saved.
Only those that call on the Lords name are saved!?!. .What is the Lords name? ..THE WORD/
THE COMMANDS..ALL OF THEM!?! Baptism like all the commands we are to keep of Christ is
how you go into the door and how you call on the name of the lord because his commands/his
words are HIS NAME!?!! The thing we are to have faith in is THE WORD which is THE NAME!
Mat 28:20. 19. Go ye therefore, and TEACH all nations, BAPTIZING them IN THE NAME of
the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: TEACHING them to OBSERVE all things
whatsoever I have COMMANDED you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the
world. Amen.
NOTE:
IN THE NAME of Father, (which is NOT a name;) and of the
Son, (my name is not son, son is NOT a name!) and of the Holy Ghost (Holy
Ghost is NOT a name!) So No matter what you think baptism is for or if it is to
give you salvation or not, what is THE NAME we are to be baptized into??
Acts 4:12 for there is NONE OTHER
WHEREBY WE MUST BE SAVED.

NAME under heaven given among men,

I AM THE DOOR

John 10:9.
: by me if ANY MAN ENTER
IN, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. (Jn 10:1)

Rev 2:13.and thou holdest fast MY NAME, and hast NOT DENIED
MY FAITH,

Acts 3:16 THROUGH

.

FAITH in HIS NAME

Rev 3:8. I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee AN OPEN DOOR, and no man
can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept MY WORD, and hast NOT DENIED MY
NAME.
Psalms 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy
truth: for thy truth: for thou hast magnified THY WORD above all THY NAME

Further, this question really makes no sense except in the context of once saved always saved
based primarily on the following passage:
Roms 11:29. For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. ..OR.. 29. For THE
GIFTS and THE CALLING of God ARE IRREVOCABLE.
1. The gift of grace which is the word, which is Jesus, Which God sent to the
world is irrevocable, God sent it and it cannot be taken back or withdrawn
from the world..The word which is the grace is here Irrevocably. This has
nothing to do with how or if one can loose ones salvation. The issue is what
you do with the gift not weather or not it is irrevocable!?!
2. The Calling of God is NOT the same thing as us Calling on the name of the
Lord...God called us before the foundation of the world, long before
we ever call on His name (See also the other document Many Are Called )
Take note of how John 3 parallels with Mark and THE NAME OF THE LORD!!!
Mark 1616. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but HE THAT BELIEVE NOT SHALL BE DAMNED.
John 3:18. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT IS CONDEMNED already, BECAUSE he hath
NOT BELIEVED in THE

NAME of the only begotten Son of God.

The name is not j-e-s-u-s or Y-E-S-H-U-A or some set of Pronounceable letters that spell a name like John or Jesus. The name is the
word not the letters the word but the commands/doctrine that Christ gave ergo John 14:23-24 et al ALL of the sayings and commands of
God) You cant pronounce the name of the Lord you can only LIVE IT! Do you really think the name of God is a simple name that can be
pronounced letter by letter by a man like Jesus or Yeshua et al?!? (ie Judges 13:18; 2Cor 12:4 but Gods name is not as great and or
unspeakable???).If you do not keep the commands then you deny THE NAME of the lord because the name of the Lord is the word that
commands baptism et al..
To deny the command/ refuse to submit in faith for baptism and its work of salvation is to deny that name of the Lord.
We are saved by GRACE (look at the charts the GRACE that God gave was Jesus!; and JESUS is the word of God [made flesh]) If you do
not obey the word you have NO faith in JESUS so the argument faith alone is moot!! I dont have such a big a problem with faith alone but it
is faith alone in what?!? FAITH in THE WORD of God..The works that Paul et al denounce are the works of the law or any works of
men that could have brought Christ/That GRACE to us. Paul is not denouncing any and all works claiming that works are not necessary for
salvation!?!. .. Jesus IS that GRACE made flesh!?!. We are saved by that GRACE(Jesus), through FAITH (in the NAME[ Acts 3:16; 1John
3:23] of that GRACE/JESUS ) in the GRACE/ Jesus, which His NAME is "THE WORD", which is THE COMMAND.
There is no claim to calling on THE NAME OF THE LORD if you deny the word because the word is the name of the lordThere is no
claim to Confessing Jesus/ The word if you deny that word not the letters T-H-E W-O-R-D but the meaning/application/
commands/instructions that is THE GRACE that we are saved by through FAITH in that GRACE/the word/Jesus/ and that
GRACE/JESUS/THE WORD is A irrevocable GIFT that came to man God will not and cannot revoke HIS WORD, which is HIS NAME
whereby we are saved
Eph 2:8. For by GRACE (Jesus/the word) are ye saved through FAITH;(in the name[Acts 3:16;1John 3:23]/the word/that grace) and
that not of yourselves: (we did not send Christ;the grace/the word) IT (that grace/word/Jesus) is THE GIFT (that grace/word/Jesus) of
God: 9. NOT OF WORKS, lest any man should boast. (we did not send Jesus, God worked that for us; and certainly not of the works of the
law of Moses because Christ inherited all the good promises of that law) Context, context, context, many try to read this as therefore we do not
have to work the works of Christ so that we cant boast of ourselves. (John 1:13) This makes no sense for because 1. The works here is about
brining the grace (Jesus) which was of a promise not via works we can do or by works of the law of Moses. None of those works would bring
Grace (Jesus) 2. even doing the works of Christ it is still Christ the word that saves us and we still have nothing to boast of because: (Lk 17:10)
NO WORKS OF ANY MAN OR ANY LAW could have brought mankind (into the world) the GIFT=JESUS= THE word .......THE GIFT
which is JESUS is FREE (no one earned JESUS)...However, the GIFT itself/ Jesus does require works for salvation........The GIFT/Jesus came
to mankind for FREE no one earned JESUS nor could anyone work any righteousness of their own to bring JESUS into the world...GOD
SENT A FREE GIFT TO MAN..THAT FREE GIFT IS JESUS...IS THE WORD OF GOD MADE FLESH.....IS THE COMMANDS
NECESSARY FOR SALVATION!?! If you do not do that which is your duty the servant is condemned but if he does do his duty in working he
still cant boast and any reward he receives is not because he created by his work a reward but that the reward comes from the Grace of the
master. Jesus is our Grace. We must work the works of Christ and if you do not you will be condemned. Thus to argue works do not save us is
almost moot. Damnation for those who do not do the works and yet the master not the works determines and gives the/any reward(s). Since
Christ is the word and the word is the command to attempt to extrapolate that since it is by grace through faith not of works somehow is a
reference to the alien concept that we do not have to do anything for our salvation is a fools errand. That alien concept is out of context,
inconsistent, and logically moot at its very best on a good day!?!

Eph 2:8 For by

GRACE are ye saved THROUGH FAITH; and that NOT OF YOURSELVES: it is the

GIFT OF GOD:
John 3:13. And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the

See the
connection
yet?!?

Son of man which is in heaven.16. For God so loved the world, that
begotten
life.

HE GAVE his only

SON, that whosoever BELIEVETH IN HIM should not perish, but have everlasting

GRACE is NOT some ethereal concept!?!. Grace is a physical object in the physical
universe, Jesus!Jesus.who IS ..THE WORD, is the GIFT (that was freely given),
Jesus is the/ our GRACE!?! (Luke 1:19; Acts:20:24. to testify the GOSPEL OF THE
GRACE OF GOD.)
1 John 3:24. And he that KEEPETH HIS

COMMANDMENTS dwelleth in
him, and HE IN HIM. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, BY THE
SPIRIT (Jn 6:63/Rom 8:9/1 Cor 16:22) which he hath GIVEN US. What was
given us, was HIS WORD/commands, HIS SPIRIT, HIS NAME written on our
hearts! (Jeremiah 31:33/Heb 8:10; Mk 4:15; Jn 6:63/Rom 8:9/1 Cor 16:22)
Thou Fool, The works that salvation is not of is the work of sending the FREE GIFT of GRACE (Which is Jesus) as well as not by
the works of the law of Moses. Because the law of Moses is NOT the GRACE of God(John 1:13)
John 3:27 A man can RECEIVE nothing, EXCEPT IT BE GIVEN HIM from heaven....
Mat 19:11 But he said unto them, All men cannot RECEIVE THIS SAYING, [Jn 14: 23.. keep MY WORDS:
24. He that loveth me not keepeth not MY SAYINGS:], save they TO WHOM IT IS GIVEN.

Isaiah 65:1 "they were not called by MY NAME" (called by another name ergo Mystery Babylon et
al)
Jeremiah 34:15 a COVENANT before me in the house WHICH IS called by MY NAME: .... . Gods
law/word/command is what the covenant was. That is why it is called His name. His name is "THE WORD
OF GOD".....not the letters that spell out "w-o-r-d o-f G-o-d" but the substance.....ergo John 1:1
..
Rev 3:12 "I will write upon him MY NEW NAME."....Rev 2:17 "NEW NAME written, which no man
knoweth saving HE THAT RECEIVETH IT." should bring your minds back to old covenant v new covenant
To keep the sayings of Christ (Jn 14:23) is to keep His name ergo Rev 2:13; 3:8 et al ad fin. What they receive is the word!
The Word is HIS NAME.IS HIS/WILL/COMMANDS..IS THE SAYINGS..IS THE SPIRIT IN US et al ad fin
Acts 3:16 THROUGH FAITH in HIS NAME(1John

3:23).

Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and HIS NAME IS called

THE

WORD OF GOD.
NONE OTHER NAME under heaven given among men,

Acts 4:12 for there is

whereby WE MUST BE SAVED.

Psalms 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness

THOUS HAS MAGNIFIED THY WORD

ABOVE ALL THY NAME. 3. IN THE DAY WHEN I cried thou
and for thy truth: for

answeredst me, and strengthenedst me with strength in my soul. 4. All the kings of the earth shall
praise thee, O Lord, when they hear the words of thy mouth. 7. Though I walk IN THE MIDST
OF TROUBLE, (Mat 24:29) THOU WILT REVIVE ME: (Lk 21:28) .

John 1:1. In the beginning was the Word, and THE WORD was with God, and the Word was God. 2. The same was in

THE WORD

MADE FLESH, and dwelt among us, (and

the beginning with God.. 14. And

was
we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and tru

John 14:13. And WHATSOEVER YE SHALL ASK IN

do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14.

MY NAME, that will I

If ye shall ASK ANY THING IN

MY NAME, I will do it.

See the
connection
yet?!?

1 John 5:14. And this is the confidence that we have IN HIM, that, IF WE
ASK ANY THING ACCORDING TO HIS WILL, he heareth us: 15.
And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the
petitions that we desired of him.
The GRACE that God worked and sent is Jesus. This kind of confusion on the part of faith alone no works necessary for salvation folks is
due to:
2Peter 3:15. And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as OUR BELOVED BROTHER PAUL also
according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 16. As also in all his epistles, SPEAKING IN THEM OF THESE
THINGS; IN WHICH ARE SOME THINGS HARD TO BE UNDERSTOOD, WHICH THEY THAT ARE UNLEARNED
AND UNSTABLE WREST, AS THEY DO ALSO THE OTHER SCRIPTURES, UNTO THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION. 17.
Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from
your own stedfastness. 18. But grow IN GRACE, (=IN CHRIST/ Christ is our grace/ we are in Christ) and in the KNOWLEDGE
OF OUR LORD (knowledge is the keys to the kingdom; Lk 11:52; Knowledge of THE WORD/ what it commands and how we are
added to the church by God/ Saved by GRACE/ Which is JESUS!?!) and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever.
Amen.
The spirit & life is in the word; The Word is THE NAME OF THE LORD that we are to have Faith In;
John 6:63 THE WORDS that I speak unto you, THEY ARE SPIRIT, and they are LIFE
That spirit and that word say the same thing.command the same things for salvation. You cannot have faith if you deny the spirit if you deny
the word and the word is:
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be BORN (baptism) OF WATER and. OF THE SPIRIT, he
cannot enter into the kingdom of God
What is baptism of the spirit? Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, ONE BAPTISM, (note the doctrine of baptisms Heb 6:2 is a ref to the principle
I am showing you here how that they are all just different aspects/parts of the ONE baptism) Water baptism is the same as the spirit baptism
and the reason is that the words Christ spoke are SPIRIT and they are LIFE
1 Tim 4:6 nourished up in the WORDS

OF FAITH

(Acts 3:16 THROUGH FAITH in HIS NAME; 1John 3:23)

1 Tim 6:3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome WORDS, even THE
CHRIST, and to THE
John 6:63 THE
Christ?

WORDS OF OUR LORD JESUS

DOCTRINE which is according to godliness;

WORDS that I speak unto you, THEY ARE SPIRIT, and they are LIFE)..and what were the words of

Romans 8:9. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that THE
Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

SPIRIT of God DWELL IN YOU.

Col 3:16. Let THE WORD of Christ DWELL IN YOU richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one
another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with GRACE IN YOUR HEARTS to the Lord.
Zech 4:6This is THE

WORD of the Lord unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by MY

SPIRIT, saith the Lord of hosts.

Faith in His NAME which is the WORD, not the letters that spell out "word" but the substance/spirit. Thus, when you deny the commands you
deny the word, You deny his name as such Christ himself!?!
Mat 28:20. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, BAPTIZING THEM in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy
Ghost:.Teaching them TO OBSERVE ALL THINGS whatsoever I HAVE COMMANDED YOU:

ERGO: 1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto EVEN BAPTISM doth also NOW SAVE US (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but
the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
Note the words of Christ are spirit you cant claim to have the spirit if you do not keep the words (John 14:23-24. If a man love me, he will
keep my words:.).. You cant claim to have Faith if you do not obey those words. Salvation is a gift of God to those who accept the gift
(Grace[Jesus]/ The word )

John 3:5 Except a man be BORN

OF WATER..AND of THE SPIRIT, he cannot enter

into the kingdom of GodThat whosoever BELIEVETH IN HIM (Faith in His NAME/The word
Acts 3:16; 1John 3:23) should not perish, but have eternal life.

Mark 16:16. He that BELIEVETH(Faith in His NAME/The wordActs 3:16; 1John 3:23)

AND

is BAPTIZED shall be saved; but HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT shall be damned.

Mat 28:19. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, BAPTIZING them IN

the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Rev 19:13. .. and HIS

THE NAME OF the Father, and of

NAME IS called THE WORD OF GOD.

John 6:63 THE
and they are LIFE

WORDS that I speak unto you, THEY ARE SPIRIT,

Ps 138:2. . and praise THY NAME . for thou hast magnified THY WORD

ABOVE ALL

THY NAME.
Isaiah 30:27. Behold, THE

NAME OF THE LORD COMETH

.....God uses many different names in scriptures but "THE WORD" (the substance not the letters that spell "the word") is the
Highest name of ALL and ANY OTHER NAME that God uses.....
Mat 28:continuied .20. Teaching them to OBSERVE ALL THINGS WHATSOEVER I HAVE COMMANDED
you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
The NAME of the Lord is the command for water baptism (among other commands for action) calling on the NAME of the LORD is the
COMMAND!! Thus when you obey and keep the command you are calling on that NAME whereby we are saved, the NAME is THE WORD
of God (Rev 19:13)
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and BE

BAPTIZED, and wash away thy sins, CALLING ON THE

NAME of the Lord.

Jesus Is THE GIFT(He came to us for FREE we did not earn him)....He/.the GIFT commands works in order for us to be saved! You are calling
on the NAME when and only when you are keeping the words (command[s])!! Even the way this verse states it shows that baptism is the/a act
of calling. If you do not obey the word you are not keeping the word. You have no claim to calling on THE NAME of the Lord if you are not
baptized for the remission of sins. In fact, you are denying THE NAME of the lord when you do not obey in faith the work of God (Col 2:12)
in baptism because the NAME is the WORD of baptism that saves us in that work of God!
FAITH in the .NAME
FAITH in ...JESUS
FAITH in the .OPERATION

=
=
=

THE WORD His SAYINGS (Jn 14:23-24)

THE WORD That COMMANDs (Mat 7:21)
THE WORD That WORKS in us (Jn 6:63/ Rom 8:9)

THE NAME OF THE LORD IS NOT "J-E-S-U-S" or Y-E-S-H-U-A"..FOOLS! .THE NAME OF THE LORD (that saves us; the NAME
we are to call upon) ...IS ALL of the sayings and commands of God) You cant pronounce the name of the Lord you can only LIVE IT! It is
THE COMMAND FOR BAPTISM and the works that they DENY him with (Titus 1:16) !?!.They Deny him in works because his NAME is
THE WORD that commands those works.

What follows is an alternative version/ parallel chart of the above information:

John 3:5 Except a man be BORN OF Mark 16. He that BELIEVETH AND s 22:16AActs 22:16; Rev 19:13(Ps 138:2;
WATER.AND of THE
is BAPTIZED shall be saved;
Mat 6:63;Acts 3:16; 1Jn3:23
SPIRIT, he cannot enter into the
but he that believeth not shall be damned.
kingdom of GodThat whosoever
BELIEVETH IN HIM (Faith in His
NAME/The word Acts 3:16; 1John
3:23) should not perish, but have
eternal life.
REVERSE:

FORWARD:
John 3:5 Except a man be BORN

FORWARD:
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou?

OF WATER.

16 is BAPTIZED shall be saved;arise, and BE BAPTIZED, and

.
wash away thy sins,

.AND

AND
CALLING ON THE NAME
of the Lord.

Rev 19:13:HIS

NAME is called
THE WORD OF GOD (Ps
138:2. . and praise THY NAME . for
thou hast magnified THY WORD
ABOVE ALL THY NAME.)

Mat 6:63 THE

WORDS that I speak

unto you, they ARE SPIRIT, and

of THE SPIRIT, he cannot

enter into the kingdom of God

they are life. John 1:14. And the WORD

was MADE FLESH
Acts 3:16. And HIS NAME through

FAITH IN HIS NAME

1John 3: 23. And this is his
commandment, That we should

15That whosoever

BELIEVETH IN HIM
(Faith in His NAME/The word Acts
3:16; 1John 3:23) should not perish,
but have eternal life.

Mark 16. He that BELIEVETH

BELIEVE ON THE NAME

John 14:21. He that hath MY
COMMANDMENTS, and keepeth them,
he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth
me shall be loved of my Father, 23.
If a man love me, he will KEEP MY
WORDS: The word is the command; The
command is the Name of the Lord that you
either confess in faith with action or deny
to your own damnation.

ERGO: 1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto EVEN BAPTISM doth ALSO NOW SAVE US (not
the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus
Christ:

John 3:36. He that BELIEVETH on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that BELIEVETH NOT (the Greek word is disobey not the same
word used at the beginning of this verse) the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
Rom 4:4. Now to him that worketh is the reward not RECKONED

OF GRACE, but of debt. 5. But to him that worketh not, but

BELIEVETH ON HIM that justifieth the ungodly, HIS FAITH (Acts 3:16; 1John 3:23) is counted for righteousness.
Does not support the NO WORKS position....If you look it states reckoned of GRACE...Christ IS Grace and GRACE was Given to us not as
our reward as of some debt that God owed us, but rather given as a gift to us....The gift of Grace is not according to our works. TRUE!
CHRIST came NOT according to our works but as a gift!......That free gift of GRACE is CHRIST!....is THE WORD!....is THE COMMANDS
(for works eta l)!.........This gift was given not as a payback or a debt that God owed us (because of any righteousness under the law or
elsewhere) but rather as a FREE Gift to us.... Jesus Is THE GIFT(He came to us for FREE we did not earn him)....He/.the GIFT commands
works in order for us to be saved!...That verse has everything to do with GRACE/JESUS, and has NOTHING to do with what works that
GRACE commands and the works we must confess for salvation......THE NAME that our faith is in that saves us is THE WORD...is THE
Commands....so ironic that folks will cite
Titus 3: 5. NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS WHICH WE HAVE DONE, but ACCORDING TO HIS MERCY he saved us
(John 1:13)
Our works did not nor could they bring about the righteousness (1John 2:1 et al) or GRACE which is what Jesus is made flesh. God had mercy
so God sent Christ not because anyone under the law of Moses or by any other law of works earned as payment Jesus Christ. God sent Jesus in
his mercy not by our works of righteousness. Further, they fail to see and or ignore the context of what was said previously in that same book :
Titus 1:16. They profess that they know God; but IN WORKS THEY DENY HIM, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good
work reprobate. The NAME is THE WORD...the word is THE WORKS/ COMMANDS that you DENY......thus you have NO FAITH in THE
NAME of the Lord....you do not confess but rather you DENY THAT NAME and as such you have NO GRACE period!?! Note the phrase
ACCORDING TO HIS MERCYthe mercy was the sending of THE WORD in the flesh so that we may know what to do so that we
could be saved.
Saved by Grace?!? That Grace which is the gift of God is The Son is THE WORD!?! Those that reject water baptism for the
remission of Sins reject the word, they reject the Gracethey reject the life..they reject the gift they reject the faithIt is impossible to be
saved by Faith alone if you have no faith!! There is no faith if you do not obey the word, for the word is the life and the grace that came down
to man.There is no Holy Spirit baptism without obedience to the word, for the words of Christ are the spirit and life. Jesus IS that
GRACE made flesh!?!......saved by that GRACE(Jesus), through FAITH (in the NAME[ Acts 3:16; 1John 3:23] of that GRACE/JESUS ) which
His NAME is "THE WORD", which is THE COMMAND....when you deny or have no faith in the WORKS (Titus 1:16) of baptism (Col 2:12)
you have no FAITH in THE WORD or THE COMMAND or THE GRACE ....thus you are still in your sins....except you repent you will hear
"I NEVER KNEW YOU"!?! But as the word also stated: Mat 19:11John 3:27 & 6:44 (we are drawn to Jesus/the word, not to a man but to
his spirit, the words Jn 6:63)
Jesus Is THE GIFT......Jesus is the GRACE ..Jesus is the WORD......the gift of grace is the word....that word came in the flesh...our works could
not bring to man that gift of Grace which is the word which is Christ.........That verse is a contrast between what gave us the gift of Jesus and
the works of any law that could not bring Jesus (the word) into this world...........no works of man could bring us the GIFT of GRACE...but the
punchline is that the GIFT of GRACE is Jesus or the WORD itself made flesh.....Nothing man could do would bring us the GIFT which is THE
WORD come in flesh......it is not saying that the WORD of salvation does not require works!?! It is only saying that the word of salvation did
not come to mankind by the works of men....that is all it is saying same goes for Rom 8 et al.......the WORD is the GIFT of GRACE.....the
WORD does require works for salvation...However, our works could NEVER bring THE WORD to us only God as a GIFT sent the WORD
into flesh for us as a GIFT but the GIFT itself does require works in order to receive the gift.. not that the works earn a salvation because God
did what our works could never do by sending the WORD into flesh.....but the NAME of the LORD that we must confess (which is a work/
something you must do) is not a set of letters that produce a pronouncable name but rather is the WORD itself...you cannot pronounce the
NAME of GOD you can only LIVE IT...CONFESS IT ....CALL UPON IT (something you do)...This can only be done with action/ works not
verbal tones.....Because THE NAME of the Lord IS THE WORD....is the COMMAND(s)and sayings......your confusing the works that brought
us the GIFT OF GRACE (grace=the word) and the works that the GIFT Itself demand of us.......GRACE= the GIFT= JESUS = THE WORD of
salvation made flesh to exemplify for us what we must do/ actions to take/ works to be saved with = the SPIRIT in us.
James 2:21. Was not Abraham our father JUSTIFIED BY WORKS, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? 22. Seest thou how
faith wrought with his works, and BY WORKS WAS FAITH MADE PERFECT? Because FAITH in the word of God without action of
obedience to that WORD is a DEAD FAITH . 26. For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

OTHER CONSIDERATIONS:
1. He wants to know if the baptism of someone in a different (ie. Baptist) church is a valid baptism
You have no faith in that operation of God (baptism see point 3) if you think the operation is faith rather then the risen with Christ thingyIf
you have no faith in the operation of God at baptism to save you, then you had no faith and as such only got wet I would also answer with
another questions: Are they baptized for the remission of sins?Are they baptized so that they can be saved or because they think they are

already saved?. If they think they are already saved and or it is not for remission of sins then you have no claim to faith in that operation
of God and washing away of your sins or that baptism save us as such it did not do much good..you need to be baptized with faith not absent
of faith in the name of the Lordand His name is not Jesus His name is the word that commanded you ..so did you have faith in that word
when the Baptist church baptized you or did you deny that name?
2. He wants to know what the line is between justification and sanctification or is there any Mark 16:16 he believes does not condemn
of those who do not get baptized
1.There are millions of ways to parse out terms depending on ones systematic theologies However and in any case, any dividing
line between justification and sanctification that attempts to define scriptures rather then scriptures defining how you use those terms
in your theology is invalid. You cannot define your theology terms first and then use that to interpret the scriptures with because you
are then using a theology to determine what the scriptures say rather then the scriptures defining what your theology is. And those that
make these kinds of statements and arguments are using circular fallacies to attempt to validate their doctrines.
2. Yes it does?!?..... This verse continues the flow of thought and answer in the preceding questions: Mark 16:16. He that believeth
and is baptized shall be saved; but HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT shall be damnedhow much more clear?..still do not
see/understand it? Ok think back..
A. The name of the lord is the word of the lord; the word of the lord is the command(s), any and all of themThus if
you do not obey and or have no faith/ belief in that word/command; you will be damned!!!confessing that a man named Je-s-u-s lived and died and rose again will get you into heaven about as much as your car can drive you there, wake up!?!
B. If you have no faith in that operation of God (which you cant have if you change the meaning to operation of faith) then
either:
1. A Baptism is worthless without faith and as such you only got wet.
2. OR you never got baptized ..If you never got baptized it is because you never believed as such you are
dammed! It is redundant to say anything more about baptism if you do not believe in that operation of
God/ Which is the the words of God which is the name we are to call upon, which is the meaning of faith
in Jesus .Faith in the name of the LordFaith in the word/command of the lordNOT faith in J-E-SU-S .. !?!
3. See also: The Trinity Heresy paper
4..See also I come quickly et al paper Isaiah 30:27. Behold, THE NAME OF THE LORD COMETH from far, burning
with his anger, and the burden thereof is heavy: his lips are full of indignation, (Isaiah 35:2,4,10/Lk 21:22,28,31) and his tongue as a devouring
fire: (this is the 2nd coming of Christ)..
1 John 3:2. Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth NOT YET APPEAR what we shall
be: BUT WE KNOW that, WHEN HE SHALL APPEAR, we shall be LIKE HIM; for we shall SEE
HIM AS HE IS
Manner is method .Manner is not substance. What manner did he leave Matt 28:18 ALL
POWER and ..Acts 1:9. and A CLOUD received him....So then, what manner = method= how
did he come back? .lets look .. Math 24:30. And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven:
.. and they shall see the Son of man COMING in THE CLOUDS of heaven WITH POWER and great
glory
5. This is not just a technicality or some play on words. This is the punch line to just about every doctrine in existence.
There is a difference between having faith in or speaking the nameor confessing the name or as church of Christ folks like
to say wearing the name of Christ verses simply making a reference to the name" Christ is not a ref to His name. Christ is
a ref to His occupation!?!..My name is not father nor is it son.Gods name is not Jesus or holy spiritHis name
cannot be pronounced it can only be referenced but the HIGHEST reference to Gods name is THE WORD NOT..NOT
NOTJ-E-S-U-S or Y-E-S-H-U-A or C-H-R-I-S-TYou put so much emphasis on the letters Church of CHRIST because
you think that is how you wear the name of Christ!?!?!Men of flesh using the language of flesh used the name Jesus as a
reference to the flesh, word that became flesh.. Did you really think the name of God was a name that could be
pronounced by a man?!? (ie Judges 13:18)... "Christ" is not even the reference to His name!?! If you had understood
what the name of God is.. ..His highest name the ONLY NAME that saves usthe name that we are to wear you
would not be putting such ridiculous emphasis on Church of Christ calling that THE NAME of His church/ The True
church!?!? Having Church of Christ above your door/sign is meaningless! There is only One Name that Saves us it is
NOT "LORD" or "J-E-S-U-S" or "CHRIST" and to wear the name of the Lord is to wear the WORD OF GOD which is
the name that saves us, not Church of Christ spelled out over you door/ on your sign!?! Those of you so enamored with
having church of Christ on your door are only deluding yourselves thinking your not just another denomination like a liar and
thief that claims they dont really lie or steal they just work to make the world a better place for others

1. Men of flesh using the language of flesh used the name Jesus as a reference to the flesh, word that
became flesh.....the names you refer to are found INSIDE /subordinate protion in the WORD OF GOD thus
akin to a single brushstroke in a master painting!?! .......
2. . Did you really think the name of God was a name that could be pronounced by a man?!? (ie Judges
13:18). It is not rocket science it states is POINT blank in the NT and OT Psalms point blanks states
that is His HIGHEST nameit is only obscure hiding in plain sight for those who dont know the
scriptures and or refuse to accept them...
3. It is not just a couple of verses and why John states it this way in the gospel of John 1:1 as well as in
1John 1:1 he was also the scribe for the book of revelation so he understood it perfectlythat is Gods true
highest name the ONLY NAME that saves usthe name that we are to wear (we live it not pronounce
it, ergo Written on our hearts not with ink!)......
4. How many verses does God need to use before you accept the truth of it?? Many seem to like human
preconceived, narrow minded ideas of men rather then "the word" (pun intended) but many like to argue
puffed up by pride against The word (1 Cor 4:6; Phil 1:15)

SUMMARY:
Proverbs 30:4 WHO HAS ASCENDED INTO HEAVEN, OR DESCENDED? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has
bound the waters in a garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth?

WHAT IS HIS NAME, AND

WHAT IS HIS SONS NAME, If you know?

Even Most preachers do not really understand the most fundamental issue in answering the
argument which centers and is rooted in a perfect understanding of "THE NAME OF THE
LORD" ....YES baptism is essential for salvation but how and why, what about GRACE through
"faith alone"??... The faith alone folks have twisted and turned the entire verse upside down and
inside out. It was not by our works that Grace came to us but God;s work. ..........1. Grace is not some
ethereal abstract concept!?! Grace is a real physical object that came into the physical universe,
but not by our works!?! 2. .However, let's assume "faith alone" (and we can take that position
from scripture) but What is the FAITH alone in??? (Acts 4:12).....The letters that spell "JESUS"?!?!
even demons acknowledged that!?! However, It is the name of the Lord that scriptures state our
faith is in(Acts 3:16; 1John 3:23) ......It is the NAME whereby men are savedSOOOO....What is the
NAME OF JESUS?? i thought it was "J-E-S-U-S" or Y-E-S-H-U-A"...NO!. The paper shows the
scriptures tell us specifically that that the HIGHEST NAME of the Lord is NOT SOME SET OF
PRONOUNCEABLE LETTERS that form a name such as John or Jesus!?!
Rev 19:13. .. and HIS NAME IS called THE WORD OF GOD.
Ps 138:2. . and praise THY NAME . for thou hast magnified THY WORD ABOVE ALL THY
NAME.
.....God uses many different names in scriptures but "THE WORD" (the substance not the letters that spell
"the word") is the Highest name of ALL and ANY OTHER NAME that God uses.....
ERGO:When you deny the command you deny THE NAME The command is the
NAME!?!.........
John 3:34. For he whom God hath sent speaketh THE WORDS OF GOD:
John 6:63THE WORDS that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life
Mat 28:20. Teaching them TO OBSERVE all things whatsoever I HAVE COMMANDED YOU..
Col 3:16 16. Let THE WORD OF CHRIST dwell in..
You who say baptism is not necessary have no claim to confessing THE NAME of the Lord....NO...YOU
DENY HIS NAME!?!

Titus 1:16. .. profess that they know God; but IN WORKS THEY DENY HIM, being abominable, and
disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate
1John 2:3. And hereby we do know that WE KNOW HIM, IF we KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS.
THE NAME OF THE LORD, the only NAME WHEREBY MEN ARE SAVED ....... ....IS THE
WORD!!.(not the letters that spell "the word" but the substance/essance).....THUS, THE NAME OF
THE LORD IS THE COMMAND (for baptisms et al) and the works they DENY him with (Titus
1:16) !?!.. That is Gods true highest name the ONLY NAME that saves usthe name that we are
to wear (we live it not pronounce it, ergo Written on our hearts not with ink!)......... God has gone by
many names in scripture Jesus is just another set of letters found INSIDE /subordinate protion in
the WORD OF GOD thus akin to a single brushstroke in a master painting!?! .......
Did you really think the name of God was a name that could be pronounced by a man?!? (ie
Judges 13:18) IF YOU DENY THE COMMAND (or the faith that it saves us) THEN YOU DENY
THE WORD, THE NAME OF THE LORD! !!.....It is in understanding the NAME of the Lord that
true understanding of baptism is made perfectly clear...... You can't call on the NAME of the LORD if
you DENY that NAME ...Nor can you believe on the Lord if you do not put your trust in the NAME
of the Lord....But What it means to profess the NAME of the Lord is to keep (John 14:23; Rev
2:13; 3:8 et al) That NAME....Those that do not wear the NAME have NO claim to professing or
confessing that NAME..........
2 Thess 2:10.because they received not the LOVE OF THE TRUTH, that they might be saved. 11.
And for this cause GOD SHALL SEND THEM STRONG DELUSION, THAT THEY SHOULD
BELIEVE A LIE: 12. THAT THEY ALL MIGHT BE DAMNED WHO BELIEVED NOT THE
TRUTH