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UmairAliZafar,OrdinaryPakistani
WrittenOct1
OriginallyAnswered:HowcanyouconfirmthatIndiaconductedsurgicalstrikesinPakistan?
ThissurgicalstrikebyIndia,andthesubsequentdenialbyPakistanlookslikeacomplex
matter.Thereistoomuchwhitenoiseintheinformationbeingpropagatedanditishard
toseparatetruthfromfalsehood.Letsestablishthefactsfirst,andthendrawaconclusion
aboutwhathappenedonthatfatefulnight.
TheFactsweknowsofar:
Thefollowingfactscanbegatheredfromtheknowninformationsofar:
TheIndianDGMO,inapressconference,saidthatIndiahadconductedsurgical
strikestoeliminateterroristlaunchpadsalongtheLOCandtheterroristssuffered
heavylosses.HefurthersaidthattherewasnolossoflifeontheIndianside.The
IndianDGMOneverclaimedinhispressconferencethathisforcescrossedtheLOC
ortheborder.HeusedtheveryvaguewordsofalongtheLOCinEnglishandLOC
kaynazdeekinHindi.
Therewerelittledetailsgivenofficiallyaboutthesupposedsurgicalstrike.Everything
saidinthepressconferencewasvague.Nothingwasmentionedasperthenumberof
terroristskilled,thelocations,themethodology,thetargetsoftheterroristsetc.
TheDGMOdidntallowanyquestionstothepressconferenceandwentbackright
aftertheconference.
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TwoPakistanisoldierslosttheirlivesasperISPR.
1IndiansoldierisinthecustodyofPakistan.
IndiawantedtoperformasurgicalstriketoeliminateHafizSaeedortheleadershipof
LeTandJeMbyintrudingdeepintothePakistanistate.Thisgoalisstillnotachieved.
Thisparticularattack(asperIndia)targetedonlylaunchpads,whichwereprobably
merepawnsinthisproxywar.Therealstakeholdersarestillatlarge.
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ThereareunofficialclaimsfromthePakistanimediathat14Indiansoldiersdiedand
theirdeadbodieswereseenintheAJKareainthemorningaftertheattack.
Theargument:
FlawsintheIndianargument:
ThemajorityofthedetailsarecomingfromtheIndianmediaandarenotofficially
released.Theyalsolooklikefabricatedstorieswithoutanythoroughinvestigationofthe
truth.Indianmediaisknowntocreatesuchhypeoveruntrustedandsometimesoutright
falsenews.Anexamplecanbeseenhere:RajagopalanBadrinarayanan'sanswertoWhat
aresomeexamplesofexpertswhointheendwerenotrealexperts?
EvenifweassumethattheIndianmediaisright,eventhen,thetechnicalaspectsofthe
informationthatispresentdontaddup.Thefollowingpointselaboratethisargument
further:
Thewholeborder/LOCareahasa3layersecuritysystemwithfences,barbedwires
andlighting.Thereisnowayapersoncancrossthesehurdleswithoutgettingtoo
muchattentionfromboththesides,letalonehalfadozenteamsof20soldierseach.
Heliborneorairdroppedsoldierscancrosstheborder,butthatcreatesanother
problem.Howwillthosesoldiersbeextractedafterthecompletionofthemission?The
airbornemachinehastobelandedsomewhereforexfiltration,whichishighlyunlikely
inthefaceofheavyfirefromthePakistaniforces.PAFwasalsoonhighalertandthat
meantthattherewasariskofretaliationfromPAFjetsaswell.
Themediaclaimsthatstrikeswerecarriedoutwithin3kmoftheLOC.Thisdoesnt
makesense.IndiahasprecisionguidedmunitionswhichwereusedinKargilaswell.
Iftheyhavecredibleinformation,aswassaidbytheDGMO,whywouldtheyriskthe
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livesoftheirsoldiersandescalationbysendingbootsonground?Theycanachieve
thisgoalbysimplybombingthosetargetsfromIndiansideoftheLOC.
IndiaisnotcapableofconductingasurgicalstrikeagainstPakistan.Itdoesnothave
armedUAVsorstealthaircraft.Bootsonground,andthattoo,for4hours,willcause
significantcasualtiesonbothsides.MoreonthisinthisarticlebyTheDiplomat:Is
IndiaCapableofaSurgicalStrikeinPakistanControlledKashmir?
FlawsinthePakistaniargument:
Ontheotherhand,PakistansISPRstatesthattheincidentwasjustcrossLOCfiring
whichhappensalotandisnothingnew.However,ifthatwasthecase,thenhowcomethe
PakistaniforcescapturedoneIndiansoldieranddeadbodiesof14othersareonPakistans
sideofLOC,asreportedbyPakistanimedia.Although,thecaptureoftheIndiansoldier
hasnotbeenconfirmedbyISPRbutbyIndianofficials,butthereasonbehindthatis
obvious.
WhatreallyhappenedMyconclusion:
Inmyopinion,thesurgicalstrikewasmerelyadrama,oryoucansay,carefulplayof
words.TherewassomeactivityontheLOC,somepeoplediedonboththesides,one
soldieriswiththePakistaniauthorities,thatsconfirmed.
However,whatlooksmostplausibleisthattheIndiansoldiersadvancedtowardstheLOC,
mayhavecrossedit,andfirewasexchanged.Somesoldiersdiedfromboththesides,but
nothingmorehappened.Indiacarriedoutapressconferencetoplacatethemassesand
retainModispublicfaceandescalationdidnthappeneither.TheIndiansgotsomething
tobeproudof,andthePakistanisgotsomethingtobeproudofaswell(thwartingan
attackandkillingsomesoldiers,capturingone).Thesituationwasnotescalatedbecause
nothinghappened.
Perhaps,thatisthereasonthatnobodyintheinternationalmediaconsidersitasasurgical
strikeandisdeemingitasmerecrossborderfire.Ithinkanypersonwhogoesalittle
deeperintotheinformationcanseethroughthesmokescreenandunderstandthatsame
thing.
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AyushRai,JaiHind!!
WrittenOct6
ThebiggestevidenceofsurgicalstrikeinLOCbyIndianArmycamefrom
Pakistanitselfon5thOct.2016
Surgicalstrikes:FivePakistanisoldiersamong12killed,MirpurSPtellsCNNNews18
Firstpost
MirpurSP,whowasundertheimpressionthathewasspeakingtohis
superiorIGMushtaq,confirmedclaimsmadebytheIndianArmytoNews18's
InvestigationsEditorManojGupta.
NotonlydidtheSPconfirmthetimingsofthestrike,healsorevealedtheareasthatwere
underattackLeepaandAsmaniinBhimberandthenumberofpeoplekilled.He
saidthePakistanArmyhadcordonedoffalltheseareasimmediatelyafter
theIndianArmy'sstrikes.
TheSPalsosaidthatthePakistanArmyputthebodiesinambulancesandtookthem
away,addingthatmanyhavebeenburiedinvillagesandthathispersonnelwere
evaluatingthecoffinboxes.
Inanothershockingrevelation,MirpurSPadmittedthatthePakistaniArmy
facilitatesjihadimovementinforwardareasandarrangesfortheircrossing
overtoIndia."TheArmybringsthem(lashkaris)...itisintheirhands,"hesaid
NwdoanyPakistaniorIndianPolitician/politicalpartywantsanyotherproof??
IndianArmyshouldntreleaseanyfootageofstriketosatisfythesepeople
itllbathreattonationalsecurity.Ifthesepeoplerstillnotsatisfiedtheycn
neverbsatisfiedandthereisnoneedtosatisfythemletthemcry:):)
SalutetoIndianArmy
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JaiHind:):)
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ApoorvGarg,Researchisahabit,notprofession.
WrittenOct4
OriginallyAnswered:HowdoweknowwhetherIndiareallyconductedthesurgicalstrikeagainst
Pakistan?
Noarmywouldbefoolishenoughtoprovideevidenceofanintelligencebasedsurgical
strike.Especiallywhenitmayneedandplanstocarryonmoresuchstrikesinfuture.Only
thosewhoexpectordemandsuchevidenceareutterfools.Theyareeitherdoingit
deliberately,lookingforpoliticalbrowniepointsorarefallingintothePakistanitrapof
denialandchallengeforproof.DespiteallthetheatricsofAAPandKejriwal,Inever
expectedsuchfoolishnessfromhim.Afterall,heisknowntobeanIITian!Perhapsheis
onlyexIITiannow.Tradedhisgreymatterfortheabilitytovomitoutsenselesspolitical
rhetorics.
JustforamomentleaveasidethequestionthatwhetherornotIndiareallyconductedthe
surgicalstrikes'andtakestockofwhathappenedafterthedeclarationofthestrikes:
Pakistan'sdenial,statementsfromvariouscontourslikeUS,Russia,China,etc.,
cancellationofSAARCsummit,statementsfromIndianpoliticians,statementsfrom
Pakistanipoliticians,enhancementofvigilandpreparationbyIndianpoliceandmilitary
againstpossibleterroristattacks,etc.
Now,basedononlytheeventswhicharefactsnotsubjecttodoubtorspeculation,decide
foryourselfwhetherIndiaorPakistangainedanadvantageasaresult.
Ifit'sIndiathenModiissmartifthestrikesreallyhappened,andsmarterifnostrikes
reallyhappened!
Ifit'sPakistanwhogottheadvantage,orifbothcountriesareworseoff,thenwhetheror
notstrikeshappened,thedeclarationbyIndiawasamistake.
Ifboththecountriesarebetteroff,thenagainregardlessofwhetherornotthestrikes
actuallytookplace,Modiprovestobeagreatstatesman.
Thecruxisthis:Itdoesn'tmatterwhetherthestrikesactuallytookplaceornot.The
declarationisallthatisimportant.
Andthatisveryinteresting:Informationaboutaphenomenonbeingmoreimportantthan
thephenomenonitself.
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Deepanshu,I'manomadseekingtobecomingarealisedsoul.
WrittenOct2
Ihavetwoperspectivesonthis.
First:Let'ssayIndiadidconductsurgicalstrikesonPakistan.Nowthisstrikeintrue
definitionwouldrequirestealthhelicopters,specialtrainedbehindtheenemylinesforces,
highlysophisticatedstealthyequipmentetc.
IndiadoesnothavemostofthisandtheGHATAKforcesthatconductedtheseopswere
nottrainedforbehindenemylinesoperations.Howevertherangeoftheseopswaslimited
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to34kmsinlandandabroaderlength.Withourcapability(I'mIndianandwillreferto
usasour)thesestoriesaredefiniteprobabilityandIdon'tnothaveashredofdoubtthat
Indiadidnotcarryouttheseops.Infact,Mr.Mushharafhashimselfadmittedinhisbook
(inthelineoffire)thatPakistanhassolddeadbodiesofhispeopletoUSfor$10,000
duringthewarwithtalibansoIndianoperativesbuyingintelligencefromtheseelements
formoneyisverypossiblecoztalibanisoutofworkandmoneyishardtocomeby.
TheDGMOhasstatedthathecalledthePakistaniDGMwhichisanywaysonarecorded
line.Indiadoeshavethedronerecordingcapabilitywhichithasexercisedandmost
probablywillbewillingtosharewithUNcouncilnationsinutmostsecrecyifrequired.
AdditionallythemarkingsondevicesandweaponsacquiredisfromPakistan.Howcana
nationclaimthatweaponswiththeirmarkingsarenottheirown.It'sreallyhardtobelieve
thatPakistanissodumbthatitLet'sPakistanmarkedAK47andGPStrackersbesoldto
India.IfsuchisthecasethenPakistanreallydoesneedtocontrolitselfinternallybecause
thispointsouttoanationofsellerswhowouldevenselltheirownarmyoneday.
IfPakistanadmitstokillingoftheseterrorriststhentheyareindeeptrouble
internationally.Iftheydon'tadmitthenit'stheOsamasituationonceagainwhichhas
alreadybeenanegative.
OntheothersidePakistansaysthatthesesttikesneverhappened.Let'sjustseethehistory
ofPakistanandit'scommentsandadmissionsinPublic.don'tseehowIcanoranyoneelse
cantrustPakistansstatementsforthereasonsbelow.
1.KargilwarnawazsharifhadsaidthatIndiahadpushedthemtofightandPakistan
hadtoretaliate.ThereareseveralinterviewsofretiredPakistaniarmymenandeven
booksonhowmushharafhadinitiatedthewarandpeopleunderhimhavespoken
againstthePakistanarmy.ReadgeneralshahidAzizs(postedunderMushharaf)
bookYehkhamoshikahantakorwatchthisvideo.
Gen.ShahidAzizExposesTheTruthAboutKargilWarAndPervezMusharraf'sBlatant
Lies
2.Pakistanhasdeniedinvolvementin26/11attackdespitetheterroristsadmissioninIndia
withhisidentityprooffromPakistanandheadleyconfessingtotheUSestablishment.If
anyofPakistansstatementsweretruethentheywouldnothaveretiredarmymentalk
againstmusharrafandmoreimportantlyheadleysconnfessiontoaneutralpartyI.e.US
howcanwetrustPakistansdenial.
3.PakistandeniedshieldingOsamabinladenandgotcaughtinitsowntrap.Theydenied
theUSstrikestillUSsubstantiatedwithmultipleproofs.HowcanPakistansdenialbe
trusted.
4.JaishemuhmmadchiefisaglobalterroristdeclaredsobytheUNandthiscommitteeis
notUSALONEBUTseveralneutralcountries.Thisguystillmakesvideosandconduct
interviewsinPakistan.HowcanthewordsofPakistanbetakenseriouslyifsuchisthecase.
ApparentlythejudicialsystemofPakistanismoreJUSTthanthatofmanyneutral
nations..pakistanHasnotfoundashredofevidenceagainsthim.Howcanwetrust
Pakistansdenialwhenthereclaimsaresoridiculous.EventheresidenceofDawood
IbrahimhasbeentrackedbytheUSandIndia.AndPakistansaysallthetechnologyisfake
andfalseandheisnotinkarachi.Howcanonetrustthemwiththeirridiculous
Arguments.
5.BillClintoninaninterviewsaidthatPakistansarmychiefwasmovingnuclearweapons
duringthekargilwarandNawazSharifhadnodamnclueaboutit.Nawazsharifhad
beggedClintontoendthekargilwarwithnegotiationsandallthisisontape.Clintonhad
toldsharifthatmushharafwasmovingweaponsandhadpicturesasproof.Howcanwe
belivePakistanswordwhentheyhavebeencaughtlyingonthisandbeingsooutofcontrol
withinitseltandit'svariousestablishmentsthatthelivesofmillionsofPakistancivilians
wasinthehandsoftwoleaders,bothofwhomwerenottalkingtoeachotherandyet
movingbombsriskingtheescalatjonwhichcouldkillseveralciviliansonbothsides.
ThesearejustfewinstancesbuttherearemanymanyinstanceswherePakistanhasbeen
caughtonthewrongsidewithvariedstatementsfromdifferentinstitutionswithin
Pakistan
IfeelpityonPakistanforonereason.I.e.Thereowncreatedproxywargroupsarekilling
Innocentciviliansandanincapablegovernmentislettingit'speopledie.
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MandeepSingh,Therearenogoodandbadterrorists.Thereareonly
Terrorists.
WrittenOct9
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OriginallyAnswered:IsittruethatIndiahasconductedsurgicalstrikesalongLoCinthepasttoo,but
didn'tpublicisethem?
OPERATIONGINGER(TitForTat)
WhatifitoldyouthatonceIndianArmyconductedsurgicalstrikesonlyto
killPakistaniSoldiersandnotterrorists.Manyofyouwouldhavenever
heardofthatoperationinwhich8PakistaniSoldierswerekilledandanother
twoorthreemorePakistanisoldierswerefatallyinjuredintheaction.
Inthesummerof2011,IndiaandPakistanstagedtwoofthebloodiestcrossborder
surgicalstrikesinwhichatleast13soldierswerekilled,andsixofthemdecapitated.Fiveof
thoseheadswerecarriedacrosstheborderastrophiestwotoPakistanandthreeto
India.
MajorGeneral(retired)S.K.Chakravorty,whoplannedandexecutedtheoperationasthe
chiefofKupwarabased28Division,confirmedtheraidtoTheHindu.
ThePakistaniraidersstruckaremotearmypostinGugaldharridgeinKupwara,onthe
afternoonofJuly30,2011,surprisingthesixsoldiersfromtheRajputandKumaon
regiments.The19RajputBattalionwastobereplacedby20Kumaonaroundthetimethe
PakistaniBorderActionTeam(BAT)struck.Theattackingteamtookbacktheheadsof
HavildarJaipalSinghAdhikariandLanceNaikDevenderSinghof20Kumaon.Asoldier
ofthe19Rajput,whoreportedtheattack,diedlaterinahospital.
Inrevenge,theIndianArmyplannedOperationGinger,whichwouldturnouttobeoneof
thedeadliestcrossborderraidscarriedoutbytheIndianArmyinrecentmemory.
Tocarryouttherevengeattackatleastsevenreconnaissancephysicalandair
surveillancemountedonUAVmissionswerecarriedouttoidentifypotential
targets.Afterrepeatedrecceovertwomonths,IndianArmylaunchedoperationGingeron
August30(Tuesday).orthestrike,about25soldiers,mainlyParaCommandos,reached
theirlaunchpadat3a.m.onAugust29andhidthereuntil10p.m.Theythencrossed
overtheLineofControltoreachclosetoPoliceChowki.By4a.m.onAugust30,the
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planneddayoftheattack,theambushteamwasdeepwithintheenemyterritorywaiting
tostrike.
Overthenexthour,claymoremineswereplacedaroundtheareaandthecommandos
tookpositionsfortheambush,waitingforclearancethroughsecurecommunicationroute.
At7a.m.onAugust30,thetroopssawfourPakistanisoldiers,ledbyaJunior
CommissionedOfficer,walkingtowardstheambushsite.TheywaitedtillthePakistanis
reachedthesitethendetonatedthemines.Intheexplosionsallfourweregrieviously
injured.Thentheraidingcommandoeslobbedgrenadesandfiredatthem.
ThecommandosthenplantedpressureIEDsbeneathoneofthebodies,primedtoexplode
whenanyoneattemptedtoliftthebody.
Hearingtheexplosions,twoPakistanisoldiersrushedfromthepostbutwerekilledbya
secondIndianteamwaitingneartheambushsite.TwootherPakistaniarmymentriedto
trapthesecondteambutathirdteamcoveringthemfrombehindeliminatedthetwo,says
anofficialreport.
WhiletheIndiansoldierswereretreating,anothergroupofPakistanisoldierswerespotted
movingfromPoliceChowkitowardstheambushsite.Soontheyheardloudexplosions,
indicatingthetriggeringoftheIEDsplantedunderthebody,accordingtothereport.
Accordingtoassessment,atleasttwotothreemorePakistanisoldierswerekilledinthat
blast.
Theoperationhadlasted45minutes,andtheIndianteamlefttheareaby7.45a.m.to
headbackacrosstheLoC.ThefirstteamreachedanIndianarmypostat12noonandthe
lastpartyby2.30p.m..Theyhadbeeninsideenemyterritoryforabout48hours,including
forreconnaissance.
sourceOperationGinger:TitfortatacrosstheLineofControl
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AhmedZafar,Pakistani
UpdatedOct6
No,IdontbelieveIndiaconductedsurgicalstrikesinPakistanandviewit
asmassappeasementoftheIndianpeopleforUri.
Firstthingsfirst,ImPakistani,butImgoingtobeasobjectiveaspossibleregardingthe
strikes.MystancehasbeenclearonothersocialmediaforumsregardingIndiassurgical
strikesinPakistan,withIndians:ShowmeaSHREDofprooforevidencethatthe
surgicalstrikeshappened,justashred,andIwillconcede.
Mystatementisbasedonaverysimpleruleonrational/logicaldiscussion:Ifyoumakea
claim,theonus/burdenofproofrestsonyou.
WikipediadefinesaSurgicalstrike asfollows:
Asurgicalstrikeisamilitaryattackwhichresultsin,wasintendedtoresultin,oris
claimedtohaveresultedinonlydamagetotheintendedlegitimatemilitarytarget ,and
noorminimalcollateraldamage tosurroundingstructures,vehicles,buildings,orthe
generalpublicinfrastructureandutilities.
Indiahasfailedtoanswerthesequestions:
Whereexactlydidthesurgicalstrikestakeplace?(update:Indiadoesappeartogive
afewlocationswherethesestrikestookplace,Ivesharedvideobelowinwhichlocals
intheseareaswereinterviewedandbehold:theyoutrightcallthesurgicalstrikesalie
astheywouldifitwasaliethePakistaniMilitaryalsoassertsthattheseareasthat
Indiaclaimsanattackonareopentojournalists,toaUNmission,andtothegeneral
publichardlyanythingyouwouldexpectifthePakistanmilitarywaslyingabout
anything)
Whowerethetargets?
WhatexactlyweretheseterroristlaunchpadsthatIndiakeepstalkingabout?
Whowerethepeoplekilled,whichterroristorganizationdidtheybelongto?
Indiafirstclaimedthatitusedhelicopterstocarryoutthestrikes .Aclaimitthen
backtrackedon .(ForcommenterssayingthislinkisPakistanimedia,herearethese
contradictionswithinIndianmediaitselfwithinavideo:PakistanDefenceTimeline )
Thesearemyviewsonthematter:
IndiawantedtoshowthemassesoftheIndianpopulationthatitgotrevengeforwhat
happenedatUri .IndiaclaimsPakistandidtheseattacks,orwascomplicitinit,aclaimI
willdenyusingthesimpleargumentthatdoingtheseattackswouldhavebeenanimmense
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strategicmistakeonbehalfofPakistanrightbeforethePrimeMinisterofPakistans
addressatthe2016UnitedNationsGeneralAssemblywherehewastobringupIndian
militaryatrocitiesinKashmir of2016,andUriprovidedagreatGodsentdefenseto
Indiaforitsmilitarykillingaround80Kashmirisin3monthswitha1000injured,that
however,isaseparatetopic.IthinkUriwasdonetojustifythesekillingsandexplainthem
awayasantiterrorism.
AfterUri,therewasanuproarinIndiacallingforrevenge.Therewerecriesforwarwith
Pakistan(whichneitherPakistannorIndiaaffordsasbotharenucleararmedstates),
fueledbyIndianmedia.Afterthiscouldnotbedone,anotherstrategyconsideredbythe
IndiangovernmentwastostopPakistaniriverwatercomingfromIndia,whichPakistan
madeclearwouldbetreatedasanactofwar. Thistoonowwasoutofthequestion.
IndianPMModiHADtosavefacesomehow,andcontinuetacticsthatdivertattention
fromIndianmilitaryactionsinKashmirin2016.
(Seealso:UnitedNationsunabletofunctioninheldKashmirduetoIndia'snon
cooperation ,2016Kashmirunrest )
Now,PakistanandIndiafrequentlyexchangefireacrosstheLineofControl,thedefacto
borderbetweenIndiaandPakistanacrossKashmir.
SoldiersacrosstheLineofControl:
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IveheardthatitsalsonormalforbothPakistanandIndiatoconductexcursionsacross
thelineofcontroltoconductoperations,howeversinceIamnotinthemilitaryandthis
mightbeclassifiedinformation,IwilljustsaythatIveheardrumorsaboutthis.
Mytheoryisthatthissurgicalstrikewaseithera...(more)
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FaraazAli,IloveMyCountry.
WrittenOct3
OriginallyAnswered:IsthereanyEvidenceandunbiasedproofofsurgicalstrike?
Kashmirattack:MilitantstargetBaramullaIndianbase
Dated:2ndOCT2016,theImmediateattackfromPakistanafterSurgicalOperations
performedbyIndia.Thisisaclearevidencethatthesurgicaloperationshavetookplace.
MilitantshaveattackedanIndianarmycampinIndianadministeredKashmirwith
gunfireandgrenades,killingoneborderguardandwoundinganother.
IndiantroopsreturnedfirefromthecampinthegarrisontownofBaramulla,50km(30
miles)northwestofSrinagar,themaincityinKashmir.
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Thecampisthelocalheadquartersofacounterinsurgencymilitaryunit.
Sundaynight'sattackcamethreedaysafterIndia'sarmysaidithadcarriedouta"surgical
strike"intheregion.
Thearmysaidithaddestroyed"terroristlaunchingpads"usedbymilitantswithsupport
fromPakistan,butthePakistanimilitarydisputedthis.
TheIndianassaultfollowedthedeadliestattackononeofitsbasesinKashmirinyears.On
18September,militantsenteredanarmybaseinthetownofUriandkilled18soldiers.
India'launchesKashmirborderstrikes'
IndiaaccusesPakistanofarmingandtraininginsurgentsfightingforKashmir's
independencefromIndiaoritsmergerwithPakistan,aclaimPakistandenies.
DisputedMuslimmajorityKashmirhasbeenaflashpointfordecadesandhassparkedtwo
warsbetweenIndiaandPakistan,whichbothcontrolpartsofthedisputedterritorybut
claimitinfull.
RelationsbetweenIndiaandPakistanhavesharplydeterioratedsincetheattackinUri
earlierthismonth.
PakistansaysIndia'sstanceisa"blatantattempt"todeflectattentionfromhumanrights
abusesintheregion.
Morethan80people,nearlyallantigovernmentprotesters,havediedinmorethantwo
monthsofviolenceagainstIndianrule.
Source:http://www.bbc.com/news/worldas...
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ShauryaSingh,NotonlyIbutmysoulisalsoIndian
UpdatedOct3
Yes,IndiaconducteditandIndiaalsoasmanyproofsaboutthis.
REASON#1:
ThesurgicalstrikesinPakistanterritorylastnightwerecarriedoutbyIndiatoaddressthe
massangeramongpeopleaftertheterrorattackatanarmybaseinUriearlierthis
month,saidministerswhowerepresentatthePrimeMinisterNarendraModis
reviewofsecuritythismorning.
Sourceswhodidnotwishtobenamedsaidthatthegovernmentwasawarethatmass
angerafterUriwasatthesamelevelasafterNirbhaya,referringtothegangrapeofa
youngDelhistudentfouryearsagothatincitedhugestreetprotestsacrossthecountry.
SourcesaddedthatrecentmovesbyIndiatoisolatePakistanbytinkeringwithitsMost
FavouredNationtradingstatusorrecallingenvoyswasnolongerenoughtoaddressthe
levelsofanger.
Thestrikescarriedoutlastnightbetweenmidnightand4amtargetedeight
terrorcampsupto2kmsacrosstheLineofControl,saidministers,Our
forceshavegonedeepinandcomebackbeforesunrise,theysaid,addingthat
Pakistansdenialofthestrikesisexpected,thathugecasualtieswerecausedin
theterroristcamps,andthatIndiahasevidenceofthedamageinflictedand
willdecideifandwhentoreleasephotographsandotherproof.
HEREHEMENTIONEDTHATWENECESSARYINDIAWILLRELEASE
VALIDPROOFS!
Thestrikes,whichincludedparacommandosandhelicopters,areIndiasfirstdirect
militaryresponsetotheattackinUriwhichleft18soldiersdead.Fourterroristsfrom
PakistanattackedthebaseonSeptember18withAK47sandgrenades.
Explainingtheaction,sourcessaidthatPrimeMinisterModitriedpeacefortwoyears,
(but)NawazSharifhasdecidedtotoehisarmysline.
ForeignMinisterSushmaSwarajalsotoldtheUnitedNationsGeneralAssembly
onMondaythatPMModisoutreachtoMrSharif,whichincludedinvitinghimtothe
PrimeMinistersswearinginandasurprisevisittowishthePakistanipremierforhis
birthdayinDecember,hasmetwithaseriesofterrorattacks.
ThePMhadwarnedthattheUriassaultwouldbeavengedandthatthearmywouldtake
actionatanappropriatetime.Inrecentdays,ashisgovernmentmovedtoisolatePakistan
diplomaticallyandtopressureitbyrethinkingcrucialwatersharingandtrade
agreements,thePMwasurgedbysomewithinhisownpartyaswellasoppositionleaders
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totakestrongactionagainstIslamabadtoproveterroristattacksinIndiawillnotbe
tolerated.
EDIT1st:
REASON#2:
SinceTherearemanypeoplewhothinkthataboveinformationisnotsufficientfor
believingwhetherIndiaconductedaSurgicalStrikeornot.
TheStatementbyWhiteHousespokesmanJoshEarnestcanbeconsidered
inthismatter.HesaidthatWashingtonwasawareofthedevelopmentbut
sawthepositivesideofthemilitariesofthetwosidesbeingin
communicationwitheachotheraftertheIndianaction.''Weencourageboth
sidestocontinuediscussiontoavoidescalation.
HethenreferstoIndiasNationalSecurityAdvisor,MrAjitDovalandUSNationalSecurity
AdvisorSusanRice'smutualcallinwhichDovalinformedlatterabouttheStrike(just
beforeconducting).
ThenHe(JoshEarnest)alsosaidthat:
''TheUnitedStatescontinuestobeconcernedbythedangerthatcrossborderterrorism
posestotheregionandwefullyexpectsPakistantocombatanddelegitimizetheUN
Designatedterroristgroups,''Earnestsaid,adding,''TheUnitedStatesisfirmly
committedcommitmenttoourpartnershipwithIndiaandtoourjointeffortstocombat
terrorism.''
REASON#3:HistoricBiodata
IFYOUSTILLINDOUBTTHEN
IfyouarestillindoubtwhetherPakistanisrightorIndiathenyoumustconsiderthat
PakistanstillsaidthatPakistanisnotresponsibleforanyterrorism,notfor26/11,evennot
relatedtoHeadley,notonlythisPakevendontadmitthatHafizMuhammadSaeed
liveinPakistan.(Evenacommonmancanknownthattruth,justgotoYoutube!)
IalsohaveaVALIDSOURCEOFINFORMATION:
IndianDefenceResearchWingLatestandIndepthcoverage,analysisofIndianDefence
Newsfrom2006
Thanksforreading!IappreciateIndiaonthisoccasion!!
Ifyoulikethis,pleaseupvote!
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AmitAnand
WrittenOct5
Pakistan?
Peoplewhoareaskingthisquestionarenotseeingthebigpicture.Itsnotrelevantwhether
thestrikehappenedornot.ThereistectonicshiftintheIndiasforeignpolicyandits
engagementwithPakistan.AnewchapterhasbeenopenedinIndoPakrelations.
Twoimportantthingshappenedafterthesurgicalstrike.
1.Indiapubliclytooktheresponsibilityofstrike.
2.AllmajornationsgavetacitsupporttoIndiasactions.Eventraditionalallyof
Pakistan,SaudiArabiahasnotobjectedtoIndiassurgicalstrike.
Forpubliclytakingresponsibilityofsurgicalstrikewouldhavebeenaverytoughdecisions
forthepolicymakers.Forthefirsttimethishashappened.Inthehindsighttodayanyone
couldsaythiswasanobviousaction,nobigdeal.RememberIndiadidnothinginthe
aftermathofParliamentattack,26/11andwhenIndianjawanswerebeheaded.Taking
sternactionagainstPakistanhasbeenalwaysnightmareforIndianpolicymakers.
TraditionalthinkinghasbeenPakistanisanirresponsiblenuclearnationhowitwould
reactisuncertain.Indiahastoomuchatstakeifnuclearattackshappened.Sokeepquite,
ignoretheattacksandfocusonpeaceprocess.
Decisiontohavesurgicalstrikeandgopublicwouldhavebeenverydifficult.Peoplefrom
borderareaswereevacuatedandtherewasallpartymeetingtoinformaboutthestrike.
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Youcanunderstandwhatscenarioswerealreadyourpolicymakerswerelookingat.This
timethepresentgovernmentcalledoffthePakistanibluffofnuclearattackorwar.
Pakistaniarmyisnevergoingtoacceptitsincompetence.Theairofsuperioritytheyhave
builtaroundthemhasonlyputthemindominantpositioninPakistan.IfPakistaniarmy
losethissheenthentheywouldlosethereholdoverthePakistan.FewBritisherswereable
toruleovermillionsofIndiansonlybecausetheywereabletoinstilinthemindsofIndians
thattheywereourmaaibaap,withoutthemwecandonothing.Thisisthepowerof
idea.PakistaniarmywouldneverwanttoshowitselfasfallibleinfrontofIndia.Thisgives
IndiamoreleveragewhilehandlingwithPakistani.Theyprovidesupporttoterrorists,
Indiacanlaunchcovertoperationsagainsttheseterroriststoneutralizethem.Thereis
remotepossibilityPakistaniarmywilltakeactionagainstthis.Ourweaknesswasbeinga
responsiblenationandavoidnuclearfallout.Nowwehavefoundtheirweakness.There
weaknessispride,andthepropagandainfrontoftheirpeople.Theycannotallowittobe
broken.Indiawillutilizeitnow.
Second,thediplomaticsupportIndiahasreceivedemboldensitspositionfortakingaction
againsttheterroristorganisations.Todayalloverworldthereisgrowingconsensusover
takingactivemeasuresagainstterroristorganisations.Pakistanisisolatedovertheissueof
terrorismglobally.SoiftensionsincreasesbetweenIndiaandPakistan,thentheworldbe
onthesideofIndia.Thispositionwasnotpossible510yearsback.WorldhasseenParis
attack,Niceattack,Dhakaattack,Taliban,ISISandunderstandsthedangerand
especiallydifferentiatingbetweengoodterrorismandbadterrorism.
Itsinconsequentialwhethertheattackhashappenedornot.Theimportantthingisthere
istectonicshiftinIndiasengagementwithPakistan.Fromdefensivewearemovingto
offensive.Although,theattackscouldnotbestoppedtotallybutthecostofPakistani
misadventurewouldberaisedsomuchthattheyhavetothinktwicebeforeactingagainst
India.Howthispolicywouldpanoutnobodyknows.Weareinunchartedwaters.But
certainlyawelcomechangefromthepastpolicieswhichhasonlygivenunsatisfactory
resultsandfrustration.
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SparshKabra,Writer|Poet|EmployerBranding|Blogger|Freelancer|
Presenter|Adviser|Social
WrittenOct7
OriginallyAnswered:WhatistheevidencethatIndiacarriedoutsurgicalstrikesinPoK?Whatmadethe
worlddenyIndia'sclaim?
IasanIndian,emotionallyandpracticallydoesntneedanyevidencewhichprovesthat
anysurgicalstrikewascarriedoutandespeciallyforthesatiationofnationwhichisfullof
lameallegations,whoisaccusedtonurturingtheterroristactivities.
WhythehellwouldPakistanbeassertingthecommencementofsurgical
strikewhenthenationitselfisproducingthebunchesofbastardterrorbits?
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ShubhamPandey,ProudoftheIndianArmy
WrittenOct4
Yes.IndiadidconductasurgicalstrikeonPakistan.Therearesomesecurityreasonsdue
towhichtheIndianArmyisnotwillingtoreleasethevideofootage:
1.Theenemiesmaycometoknowabitaboutourstrategiesforcarryingoutsuch
operationsinfuture,whichwouldbeundesirablefromIndiaspointofview.
2.Pakistanmayspotsomeloosepointsonitssecurity,andworkontheminfuture,
whichwouldonlymakeitmoredifficultforIndiatocarryoutsuchstrikesinfuture.
3.Privacyisoneofmostimportantconcernsforsuchintelligencebasedoperations.
Pakistanisnotwillingtoadmitthestrikeduetothefollowingreasons:
1.Ifthestrikeisestablishedbythevideorecordings,thenthePakistaniarmywouldfind
itveryshamefultofacethewrathofthepublicofPakistan,andinretaliation,itcould
considergoingforawarwithIndia,whichwouldbeverybadforboththecountries,
especiallyforPakistan.
2.ThePakistaniarmydoesnotwanttoadmitthatIndianarmydidsomethingasgood
andsuccessfulasthis.
3.AcceptancewouldmeanPakistanagreestothecommomperceptionthatPakistan
breedsterrorists,oratleastgivesthemshelter.
WhatabouttheeventsthatfollowedthisannouncementbytheIndianarmy?
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1.MultipleceasefireviolationsacrosstheborderbyPakistan.
2.RefusaltoattendtheSAARCsummit(whichwastobeconductedinPakistan)by
manycountries(Note:Somecountriesdidsobeforethestriketoo).
3.MoresupportfrominternationalbodiesinfavourofthebilltodecalrePakistana
terroristsponsor.
4.AnothernuclearthreattoIndiafromPakistansdefenseminister.
5.Russiabacksthesurgicalstrike.
TheseeventsdosuggestthatawareandvigilantbodiesworldwideknowthatIndiadid
conductthesurgicalstrike,andtheyverywellknowitsnotintheinterestofIndiato
releasethetapes.
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AagamGShah,IndianbyBirth.IndianbyThought
WrittenSep30
Yes,thisisnotthefirsttimeofsuchsurgicalstrikes.Butpreviouslytheywerenotmarketed
insuchafashion.
EventhebeheadingofourbravesoldierSourabhKaliabypakarmywasavenged.These
arenotmywords,ourpresentministerVKSinghwhowastheArmyChiefhadadmittedit
onTV.Butthenprobablytherewasn'taritualofmarketingsuchacts.
IndiathwartsPakistanbybreakingintoPoK3kilometers,takingtoshreds6terrorist
campsandtearingapartPakarmywhichtriedtodefendtheirbreatherterrorists,andthe
cherrytotopthecakeisThebraveIndiansoldierscamebackunharmed!!!
10Takeoutsforsurgicalstrikes:
1.Tocarryoutasurgicalstrikeofthisscale,within1.5hours&comebacksafely,ahigh
levelofintelligencewithsolidsurveillancewasrequired,NSADovalsir,uliveduptour
reputation.
2.Bravespecialforces,ujustshowedtheworldwhatstuffurmadeupof.Suchaclean
strike,ujustpaidPakbackintheirowncoins.Isaluteuall_/\_
3.StrongleadershipofPMModi,Sir,ujustpaidoffthelongpendingdebttoPak,itwas
duefor68years.56Inch1stever#Bharat_Wanshruler,wearesurelyinsafehands.
4.Indiasendsoutstrongmessage,notonlytoPakbutalsototheworldthatIndiadoesn't
waitforthenodofWashington,nordoesitcareadamnaboutChina&allwhenitcomes
toitspride&concernofitssoldiers.
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5.Indiasetstherecordstraighttothosewhothoughtindiawillplayitsafebyattacking
pakthroughdiplomacyonly,hereweare,givingMilitaryresponsetopak,giving"Jawabto
PakistanintheirownBhasha".HailPMModiforlivinguptohispromise.
6."Terror&talkscan'tgohandinHand".PMModilivesuptohiswords.ThankyouSir
forgivingafreehandtoourbravesoldiers.
7.Indianarmy&governmentOPENLYacceptsthisstrikeinbroaddaylight,because
UNGAwasjustoveron28th.This,kindof,proveswhyArmydenieditsprevioussurgical
strikeinPoK5daysback,reportedbyQuint.
8.Doval&militarychiefskippedtheirdinnertomonitortheoperation.Justgoesonto
showtheamountofdedicationthiscurrentrulingregimehas,aslaptothosewho
blabberedtheirtonguesovergovernment'sintent&competenceofDoval.
9.PMModiabsolutelywalksthetalk&showsthespine,intent&clarityofstrategiesto
handleanucleararmedhostilearchrivals.Entirenationowesugratitudetodaysir,foru
havedonewhatoughttohavebeendonelongback.
10.Hatsofftoourarmedforcesforthisprofessionalexecution,uputyourlivesonline&
avengedthedeathsofmanyofoursoldiers&civilians,uhavemadeeach&everyIndian
proudtodaybynotonlyshowingpaktheirlimitsbutalsoputtingtorestallthose
knowledgeablejournoswhoopinedthatPakistanisnotMyanmarforthearmytowalkin.
Well,advanceDiwaliwishestoPakistan,whichstandsadefeatednationtoday.
CongratulationstoallthefellowIndians,wehavemadeastatementintheinternational
arenatoday.
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SohamSoumyaSarkar
WrittenOct1
Indiahasneverfalseclaimedandisamaturenationshowingstrongpoliticaland
diplomaticsense.
LetusjustlookatwhatPaksPM,ArmyandDefenseministerhastosayaboutit.
PakistaniPMNawazSharifcondemnsattack,saysourdesireforpeace
shouldnotbeinterpretedasourweakness.
PakistanarmycontradictsSharifandIndianarmy,saysnosurgicalstrikes
byIndia,insteadonlycrossborderfireinitiated.
PakistandefenseministerKhawajaAsifsaidPakistanarmygavebefitting
responsetoIndianarmy,ifIndiatriestodothisagain,willrespond
forcefully.
Inshort,itstypicalPakistanoperatingindenialmode.Theydonotknow
whattheyaretalkingaboutandiscompletelyunsynchronized.ItsApplesvs
BananasvsOranges:)
WhywouldNawazShareefsaythathecondemnsattackandPakarmysversionwould
completelydifferandcontadictfromthePakPMs?Theworldisnotfoolandthetruthis
wellknowntoall.Theyjustareprovingtheirhypocricyonemoretimebyprominently
highlightingthedifferencesintheirstatements.
Thetruthofthehourcertainlyisthat38terroristsand2soldiers(protectingtheterrorists)
havebeenkilledbyIndianArmywithoutanyIndiansoldiergettingmartyred.
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BalaSenthilKumar
WrittenOct3
Yes.
Forthosetalkingaboutonusofproof,thisisnotaconquestofamountainforthefirst
timeinhumanhistory!
TheIndianArmydoesnothavetomakeaclaim,whenitmerelychosetoinformitspeople,
andtheDGMOofPakistan.
TheIndianMilitaryhaswonallitswarsagainstPakistanandisnotsufferingatrustdeficit
withitspeople.
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ThisisalsonotthefirsttimeIndiahasgoneintotheterritoryofanothercountrytotake
outtargets,althoughintheotheroccasioninMyanmar,itwascalledahotpursuit.
TheIndianArmyhasalltheinformationitneededtocarryoutthesestrikes,plural
becauseofmultiplelocations,andithasenoughevidencewhichitwillprobablyuseto
trainbetterforfutureoperations.
Showingproofofactiononsocialmediaishardlyinanymilitarybrief.
Ifitdidn'thappen,great!ItwillbefuntoseehowPakistanreactswhensomethinglikethis
reallyhappens!
IfIndiacandenyanythingbecauseothershavenotseenproof,itwouldbedelighted!
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Anonymous
WrittenSun
YesitdidandtheproofisinPakistansreactiontotheincident.ThePakistaniArmyinvited
reporterstotheareawheretheallegedincidenttookplacethreedaysaftertheraid.
ConsideringthattheLOCisaheavilydeployedarea,whydidthePakistanistakethree
daystoallowmediatothearea?
ABBCreportbyMohammadIlyasKhan quotesPakistaniresidentsasacceptingthat
IndiansoldierscrossedtheLOC,thoughtheydenythatitwasacommandoraid:
India's'surgicalstrikes'inKashmir:Truthorillusion?BBCNews
Anexcerpt:
Eyewitness:AliAkbar,Mundakalivillageresident,LeepaValley
Inormallywakeupat4:30am.AsusualIdidmychoresandjustthenI
heardsmallarmsfire,about100rounds.IwaitedafewminutesandthenI
heardfourbombs[mortars]landnearthevillage.Wehavebeeninastateof
warforalongtime,soIknewthatheavygunsmeanttroubleandthatthe
villagemightgethit.Iwasstandingtherewhenfourmorebombscame.Then
fourmore,afterafewminutes.
Thefirstshellshadlandedintheforestnearthevillage[whereaborderpost
islocated]andIsawflamesandsmokerising.Mywifecalledtometogetin.
Wehavebuiltabunkerinthebasementwith24inchthickwalls.Shesaid
everybodywasinside,andwantedmetogetintoo.
Bynowtheyhadstartedtargetinganotheroneofourpostshigheruponthe
mountaintopinfront.Thenthenextroundofshellshitanotherpostfurther
back.
Smallarmsfirealsocontinued.Thiswassurprisingforme.Theyhad
apparentlycrossedoverfromtheLoCandhadsetuptheirgunsatthetopof
thecliff.Icouldheardthebulletswhizzingoverhead,throughthetreetops,
snappingtwigsandleavesthatwerefallingtotheground.
Thefiringcontinueduntilabout6am.Afterthat,theheavygunsfellsilentbut
smallfirecontinued.Weremainedinourbasementuntil10am.Noonehad
hadtimetoeatordrinkthatmorning.
Later,weheardthattheIndianshadcrossedtheLoCandhitourpostsfrom
positionsoverlookingthevalley.Idon'tunderstandwhytheydidn'ttryto
reachourpostwherewehavethelocalcompanyheadquarters.Theycould
havedoneit.It'swalkable,andiseasierforthembecausetheyoccupyhigher
ground.Perhapsourpeopledetectedtheirmovementandfiredatthemwhich
pushedthemback.
Anotherexcerptfromthearticleevensaysthatlocalshadseenafewdamaged
structuresnearby,howevertheydidnotknow(orperhapswereafraidtosay),ifitwas
occupiedbythePakistaniArmyorbymilitants.Hereistheexcerpt:
However,inDudhnialsomelocalswhohelpedcarrymilitarymunitionsto
forwardpoststheweekendfollowingtheIndianstrikessaidtheyhadseen
oneortwodamagedstructuresclosetoaPakistanipostneartheborder.
Theythoughtthosestructuresmighthavebeenhitonthemorningof29
September.
Buttheywerereluctanttodiscusswhetherthosestructureshadbeen
occupiedbymilitants,orwhetherfiveorsixmenhaddiedthere,asthe
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Indianmediahadclaimed.
TroopscrossingovertoconductraidsonArmypostsafewmetresacrosstheLOCis
nothingnew.Thishashappenedmanytimesbeforeonbothsides.Ifindeedthiswasthe
caseandiftheyhadsuccessfullybeatbackanIndianattack,thenwhywasthePakistani
Armysoreluctanttosayso?
AllthisbravadobythePakistaniArmyonlyseemslikeadesperatefacesaving
measure.
APakistani(Armyormilitant?)postinMundakali,saidtohavebeenhitin
theattack:
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KatharinaSikorski,PhDinHistoryofReligions,UniversityTrained
Linguist
WrittenOct3
IagreewithAhmedZafarsstatementonthewayadiscussionshouldbeled:
Theonewhomakesaclaimbearstheburdenofpresentingaproof.Thustheburdenof
prooflieswithIndia.TellingthatPakistanliesisnotaproof.
IfIndiawantedtohumiliatePakistanandshowthatPakistantellsliesitwouldbereally
easytoindulgeinthejoy:justbyreleasingaproof.
IthasnothappenedyetandthustheIndianclaimisquestionable.Tillprovedotherwise
byIndia.
PS:MajorWesternmedia(inEnglish,FrenchandGerman)eitherdonotreallybuythe
Indianaccountofevents.Eventhetermsurgicalstrikeisquotedbythemediain,well,
quotationmarks.
EDIT:ItisnotjustIndiaswordagainstPakistansword.Thereareouteronlookersfrom
theWest.TheydonothavemuchreasonstosidewithPakistan.However,theyhavenot
embracedtheIndianaccountofevents(successfulsurgicalstrike).
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AlbertDerozio,KnowquiteabitaboutPakistanihypocrisy
WrittenOct5
Alright,letmegetonethingstraight.Pakistanisknowntobeacountrythathasroutinely
liedanddeniedeverybitofevidencethatitisshown,withnothingmorethanNuhuh,
thatdidnthappen.
Pakistansresponsecanbesummarizedinthefollowingpicture:
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Now,letusexaminetheargumentsthatPakistanhasmade.Apparently,theytookforeign
mediareporters,allofwhomareofPakistanidescent,tointerviewlocalswholivednear
theareaswhereIndiacarriedoutitssurgicalstrikes.Whereistheevidencethattheseare,
indeed,locals?Whereistheevidencethatthesesocalledvillagers,whoapparentlylive
neartheLOCareactuallyresidentsofthatarea?Thereisnoevidence,whatsoeverthat
theseareactuallocals,muchlesseyewitnesses.Theonlypersonnamedfromthisgroupof
socalledwitnesseswhodenyeverything,andtrytopaintitascrossbordershellingisa
PakistaniPoliceChief.Toconsiderthesestatementsevenforaminuteisabsolutely
ridiculous.
Whostandstogainfromthisdenial?Pakistan.WemustrememberthatPakistanisthe
samecountrythatdeniesknowingthatOsamaBinLadenwaslivingrightnexttoa
MilitaryBaseinAbbottabad.Pakistanisthatsamecountry,which,despitelosingallthe4
warsitfoughtwithIndia,claimsthatitwasvictorious.Pakistanisthatsamecountry
whoseministerskeepclaimingthatIndiahasaweaponthatcancausefloodsand
droughtsandthatthefaminelikesituationin2011wascausedbyIndiausingsaid
weapon.Thisisasridiculousasyoucanget.
Then,ofcourse,wehavePakistaniswhosayWhywouldNawazSharifflie?Ifindthat
thislaughable.NawazSharriff,duringtheKargilwardidntevenhavethefaintestclue
thatMusharrafandhisArmyhadsentPakistanisoldierstoKargil.Theykeptdenyingittill
weprovidedthemwithevidence.Afterthat,theyrefusedtotakethebodiesoftheirfallen
soldiers.Sotellme,whyshouldweevenentertainPakistansdenialinanyway?
PakistanalwaysforgetsthatIndiacandestroyPakistanwithoutusingourArmedForces.
OnerevisionoftheIndusWaterTreaty,andtherewillbeafamineinPakistanasmostof
thewaterthatPakistanusescomesfromthecourtesyandgoodwillofIndia.Pakistanhas
yettounderstandthattheirSSG,theirArmyandtheirAirforce,arenothingcomparedto
Indiasdefenceresources.
Anyonewhoisaskepticofthesesurgicalstrikesshouldunderstandonething.Pakistanis
acountryknownforfabricatingwitnesses,anditisknowntobeahubofdenial.Itisthe
samecountrythathousesHafeezSaeedandDawoodIbrahim,twoofthemostwanted
terroristsintheworldanddeniesthattheyevenexistinthefirstplace.Ifyouwishtotake
Pakistansnonsensicaldenialseriously,knowthatyouaredirectlysupportingacountry
thattrainsandharboursterrorists.
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ShriramNayak,Student,TechEnthusiast,Coolminded,Positiveattitude,
Peacefulthoughts
WrittenSep29
Wellitindeedwas.MorethansayingitwasarevengeitwasastepinensuringPakistan
thatwecandoanythingtokeepourcitizenssafe.WhilePakistaniscontinuouslyviolating
ceasefirealongLOC,andalsohelpingterroriststoinfiltrateIndiacouldnothaveheld
back.Wehavebeenonthereceivingendforquitelongyears.Theattackof26/11clearly
showedtheexistenceofPakistan'ssupporttoterrorism.WhatPakistanshouldknowis
thatweareagainstterrorismandagainstthedevelopmentofPak.Itwasinfactabold
movebytheGovt.tocarryasurgicalstrikeinPOK.
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MohammadZamin
WrittenOct3
We'relaughingitoffbecauseitneverhappened.
ClearlytheIndianpeopledontknowwhatexactlyasurgicalstrike.
Pakistan'srapiddefenseforceisevervigilanttoaggressionfromIndia.Theirairforceand
specialforcesaswellasshortrangedmissileswillbetriggeredimmediately.
AlsotheonlyoptionIndiahasinwheretoinvadefromisPunjabwhichisafortress.No
chanceanythingcanhappenfromKashmir,KargilorSiachen.
FinallyIndianspecialforcesdon'thavetheexperienceforhitandruntactics.Pakistanis
notMyanmar,itishometotheSSG,oneoftheworldsmostwelltrainedsoldiers.
PleasedonotbefooledbyfalsenewspropagatedbytheBJP.Tostayinpowerandcontrol
thepeopletheyarewillingtoexaggerateorfabricate.
ArmyrubbishesIndian'surgicalstrikes'claimastwoPakistanisoldierskilledatLoC
Whatisa'surgicalstrike'?
ItisinPakistan'sfavourifIndiaweretoactuallyinvadesowhywouldPakdenyit?
AccordingtoIndiaandIndianpeople,PakwantstodragIndiaintoawarwouldan
attackonPaksoilnotwarrantthis?IfeelmyIndianfriendsonthisthreadarefallinginto
thetrapofbelievingtheirpoliticianswhoareallteethandnobite
EffortsontosecurereleaseofcapturedIndiansoldier,saysParrikar
Sobasicallywhilethesurgicalstrikewasgoingonthissoldierwasoutinaleisurelystroll
alongtheLOCandmanagedtogetcaught?Ican'tbelievenotasingleIndianis
questioningthis.
SofarIndiahasnotreleasedanyevidenceofthisstrike,thisisunderstandablesincemovie
productionsisatimeconsumingbusinesswithactorsanddirectorshavingbusyschedules.
It'sreallysadtoseehowlowtheIndiangovernmentcanstooptoappeaseitspeopleand
it'ssadtoseethatthoughIndiansclaimtobesoeducatedtheycan'tmakeheadsortailsas
farascriticalevaluationisconcerned.
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S.AnoopKumar,AnIndianbyheartandanIndianbysoul
WrittenOct10
DidIndiareallyconductasurgicalstrikeonPakistan?
IamanIndianandIlovemycountry.IamapatriotlikeanyotherIndianwhenitcomes
tomycountryandmynation.
LikeyouIkeepwatchingtheTVnews,keepreadingnewspapersandkeepreadingtheinfo
sharedonQuora,andtheothersocialmedialikeFacebook,Twitter,WhatsApp,etc.
IdidwatchDGMOLt.Gen.RanbirSinghmakingthestatementbeforethemediaabouta
successfulsurgicalstrikecarriedoutbyIndianArmy.
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SoIaminclinedtobelieve,likemostothersdo,thatasurgicalstrikedidindeedtakeplace.
Iaminclinedtobelievebecausethestatementhascomefromaseniorarmyofficial.Iam
inclinedtobelievebecauseIamtoldthatarmyofficialsdonotlie.Iamalwaysmadeto
understandandalsobelievethatwhenanarmymanspeaks,hespeakstruthandjustthe
truth.Nothingbutthetruth.
WhenIaskedpeopleinitiallyifthesurgicalstrikewasreallycarriedout(sameasyouare
doingnow),mostpeople,whoallaremyownclosefriendsandrelativesintheprivate
socialgroups,confirmedthatsurgicalstrikehasindeedtakenplace.Noneofthemhave
seentheaction,orparticipatedintheactionorhaveseenanyproof.Yettheyallconfirmed
thatsurgicalstrikewasindeedcarriedout.
Butwhatistheirsourceofinformationorconfidencearisingfrom?Theannouncement
madebyanarmyofficialinapressmeet.Thatsettlesall.Noquestionsshouldbefurther
raisedifIamatruepatriot.
SoIbelieveasatrueindianandapatriot,andlikemostothersdo,thatsurgicalstrikehas
indeedbeencarriedout.
Thesefundasmayhelpyougetsomemoreclarityontheissue.
Funda1.Thebossisalwaysright.HerethebossisDGMO.
Funda2.Ifyouthinkthebossmaybewrong,thenslapyourselfhardand
readFunda1again,butloudly.
Youwillgetenlightenedandallyourdoubtsgetcleared.SoIsuggestthatyoualsostart
believingandstopasking.
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RaviDarak
WrittenSep30
OriginallyAnswered:Whatvalidproofcanconfirm/denythesurgicalstrikeIndiaclaimsitdidyesterday
inPOK/AzadKashmir(29/09/16)?
Thispostmayhelp..puttingithereasitis..
CHECKMATE
Todayevening,asIparkedmycarinfrontofgateno.9andwalkedintoSouthBlock
(IndianArmyHeadquarters),IlookedupatthegreygoldenNewDelhisky.Itriedhardto
seeifPakistaninuclearwarheadswereslammingintothegroundandifChinese
paratrooperswerereallylandingatopRashtrapatiBhawan.Isawneither.Ishruggedmy
shoulders,smiled,andwalkedinsideAHQforthatobligatorycupofblackcoffee(always
withoutsugar),andthemuchneededcamaraderie.Ifoundboth.TheIndianArmynever
disappoints.
NowthatwehavecrossedtheRubicon,thatmuchvauntedLineofControl,causedhavoc,
andcomebackwithoutanycasualties,itistimetoputthingsinperspective.Thisisatime
tocelebrate,butitisalsoatimetobeontopalert.Pakistanwillhitback,assureasnight
followsday.Andweareready.
Tothosewhodoubtedourabilityandresolve,youmaywanttoreconsideryouropinion
abouttheIndianArmy.Ihopewehavegivenyouenoughfaithtogoby.WearenotSeal
Team6.WeareIndianArmySpecialForces.Thisisourbackyard.Wearebetter.
TothosearmchairstrategistswhocriedhoarseandcreatedabsolutepanicaboutPakistani
tacticalnuclearwarheads,Chinasresponse,CPEC,Russiaandeverythingbetween
MongoliaandDisneyland,pleasetakeadeepbreathandrelax.TherearenoPakistani
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inducedmushroomcloudsoverDelhi.AndtherearenoChineseparatroopers.Infact,
thereisalmostnoreactionfromChina.
Andfinally,tothosewhobelievedintheIndianArmy,myheartfeltgratitude.Thankyou
forbelievinginus.Wehaveneverletyoudown.Yourfaithmeansenoughforustodiefor.
Thisisyourarmy.
WewentintoPakistanOccupiedKashmirandcreatedmerryhell.Thiswasapurelyanti
terroroperation.Wetriedtokeepourfocusandavoidcollateraldamage.Theonly
PakistanArmysoldierswhowerekilledwerethosethatcameintheway.Howmany
terroristswerekilled?Yourguessisasgoodasmine.Themediamaygiveyoufiguresof35
40terroristsand9PakistanArmyregulars,buttheseareguesstimates.Ourboyswerebusy
killing,notcounting.
Foroveraweek,thetargetswereundersurveillanceofourintelligenceagencies.Basedon
intelligenceinputs,theSFteamsandsomeelementsofinfantry(commandoplatoons,
mostlyGhatak)rehearsedforthisoperationandthen,atamomentoftheirchoosing,
infiltrated(parachuted)intoPakistanOccupiedKashmir.Theycompletedtheirmission
andexfiltratedbackintoourownarea.
AllpraisetotheSpecialForcesandotherspecializedelementsthatcarriedoutthis
operation.Itwastextbookperfect.Suchanoperationrequires,apartfrommeticulous
planningandaveryhighleveloftraining,nervesofsteelandsinewsofiron.
Iamasoldierandtotallyapolitical,asallsoldiersare.Butcreditmustbegivenwhereitis
due.PrimeMinisterModidisplayedremarkablecourage.HefirstcorneredPakistan
diplomaticallyandeconomically,andwhenthetimewasright,heorderedtheIndian
Armytosmashthemmilitarily.Allbasescovered.Astheoldsayinggoesekchaal,sheh
aurmaat.Checkmate.
PakistanArmydeniesthatsuchanincidenttookplace.Smartmove.Ifyouadmitthatit
did,youwillhaveatoughtimeexplainingtoawarinduced,hystericalpopulace,howthis
happened.Andthenextquestionwillbehowdoyouplantoretaliate?Foraninstitution
thathasgobbledupmuchofPakistansscarcewealthinthelast70years,suchasituation
hasembarrassedthem.ModihasnotmadePakistanArmybleedasmuchashehas,infull
publicview,takenofftheirkhakitrousers.ThePakistaniArmyisnotdealingwithhurt.It
isdealingwithshame.
KhwajaAsif,Pakistansmotormouthdefenceminister,whotillyesterdaywasthreatening
nuclearwar,issuddenlyatalossforwords.BroughtuptobelievethatIndiansdonthave
itinthem,heseemsadefeatedman,shouldersdrooping.
AndISPR,thatmediahouseofallmediahouses,andtheofficialmouthpieceofthe
PakistanArmyisoddlysilent.NomoreaggressivetweetsfromMaj.Gen.AsimBajwa.
TherewillbeagrandmeetingtomorrowatGHQ,Rawalpindiandallwillbeheldto
accountinthecourtofEmperorRaheelSharif.MoreF16swilllandonhighwaysandsome
morePakistanipoliticianswillthreatennuclearwar.Thepasseswillcloseinafewmonths,
andbeforethat,JihadismustbepushedintoIndia.Thiswillbealongwinter.
Therearetroublingtimesahead.Pakistanwillnotliedownanddie.Itwillretaliate.We
arevigilantontheborder.WewillnotletanUrihappenagain.
TothefamiliesofthebraveheartmartyrsofUriIsay,Sleepwelltonight.Wehave
avengedourbrothers.
Congratulations,India.
MajorGauravArya(Veteran)
#adgpi#IndiaStrikesBack
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PS.I'mnotfromPoK.ButIdoubtanyoneontheothersidewillrespond.Sothisisthe
bestsourcetillthen.
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DeepakKhatri,ContentWriter/Consultant
WrittenOct6
OriginallyAnswered:WhatevidencecanbeprovidedbyIndiatoprovetheclaimedsurgicalstrikesin
PoK?
Well,inmyopinionIndiadontneedtoproveaboutthesurgicalstrikestoanyoneinthe
World.ThereasonbehindthatisIndiahadalreadyinformed22countriesbeforethe
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SurgicalStrikes.AndMoreover,theseCountriesarethememberofUnitedNation.And
alsoEverycountryknowsaboutonethingthatPakistanistheonlycountrywhoinventor
maketheTerrorismacrosstheglobe.Moreover,Pakistanshouldgivetheproveaboutin
humanconditionsinBaluchistanwhichhasmadebyitsownArmythereasonbehindthat
theydonthavecouragetofacetheIndiansoldiers.
Jaihind.
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AumkarThakur,WebDeveloper
WrittenOct5
OriginallyAnswered:WhatistheevidenceofpurportedsurgicalstrikesbyIndiaonPakistan?
HereisproofthatIndianarmydidsurgicalstrikeinpok.
SixdaysafterIndiasaidithadcarriedoutthestrikesinsidePakistanoccupiedKashmir
(AzadKashmir),theresponseofthePakistaniestablishmenthasrangedfromabsolute
dismissalbyitsmilitaryleadershiptoridiculeofIndiasclaimbyitsdefenceminister.
ButthathasnowbeenshatteredwithjustonephonecallthatCNNNews18s
InvestigationsEditorManojGuptamadetoaseniorpoliceofficialinAzadKashmirwho,
undertheimpressionhewasspeakingtohissuperior,rattledofftheeventsofthat
tumultuousnightandconfirmedeverysingleclaimmadebytheIndianArmy.
GhulamAkbar,SuperintendentofPolice(SpecialBranch)oftheMirpurRangeinAzad
Kashmir,isheardadmittingthatthesurgicalstrikeshadindeedtakenplaceatmany
sectorsontheearlyhoursofSeptember29.DuringthecallwithGupta,heclearlystated
thatthePakistaniArmywascaughtunawaresbytheIndianattackandlost5ofitssoldiers
(CNNNews18hastheirnames)andthatthebodiesofunknownnumberofterroristswere
quicklyremovedbythePakistanimilitary.
CNNNews18sGuptacalledAkbarpretendingtobeIGMushtaqandsought
detailsaboutthecasualtiesofthatnight(Seefulltranscript).
Inresponse,Akbarpaintsatruepictureoftheareasthathepersonallyknewwereunder
attackthatnightSamanainBhimber,HazirainPoonch,DudhniyalinNeelamand
KayaniinHathianBalaandsaidPakistaniArmyhascordonedoffalltheseareas
immediatelyafterthesurgicalstrikes.
TheSPalsosaidPakistaniArmyputthedeadbodiesinambulancesandtookthemaway,
addingthatmanyhavebeenburiedinvillagesandthathiscopswereevaluatingthecoffin
boxes.
AkbaralsoconfirmedeverysinglelinethatIndianDirectorGeneralofMilitaryOperations
LtGeneralRanbirSinghhadsaidinhispressconferenceonSeptember30wherehe
announcedtotheworldthatIndiahadcarriedoutsurgicalstrikesintoAzadKashmirand
destroyterrorlaunchpads.
Indiahasnotofficiallyannouncedhowmanypeopleitkilledduringthestrikes,only
sayingitmanagedtoneutralizea"significant"numberofterrorists.However,Islamabad
haspoohpoohedtheIndianclaimsofsurgicalstrikes,andsaiditlosttwosoldiersincross
borderfiringbyIndiantroops.
"Sir,thatwasnight...youcansayroughly34hours...between2amand4or5am...the
attackcontinuedbetweenthattime,"AkbartoldCNNNews18,evenconfirmingthetime
ofthecommandoraid.
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"Therewereattacksonseparateplaces...severalplaceswereattacked...theyalsomet
resistance,"hesaid.
AndinanotherrevelationthatcouldputPakistanonamat,Akbaralsorevealedthatthe
PakistaniArmyfacilitatesjihadimovementinforwardareasandarrangesfortheir
crossingovertoIndia.
"TheArmybringsthem,sir...itisintheirhands,"hesaysaddingthathecantgive
accuratenumbersbecausePakistaniArmyprotectsthejihadiinfrastructurefromeventhe
localauthoritiesandpolice.
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SIDHARTHK,DigitalMarketing&SEOExpert
WrittenOct3
FivereasonswhyPakistanisdenyingIndiassurgicalstrikesacrossLoC
ThereasonswhyPakistanmaynotwanttoadmitthatIndiassurgicalstrikesacross
LoCweresuccessfulisbecausePakistanwouldnevereverwanttoadmitthesuccessof
theIndianArmy.Period.
AdmittancewouldalsomeanacceptanceofthefactthatPakistansArmywascaught
unawares.AndthattheycouldnotinterveneandstoptheIndianArmyoperationat
therighttime.Especially,whentheirDefenceMinisterKhawajaMuhammadAsifhad
gonepublicwithanuclearthreatwithmuchbravado.
PakistanadmittingthatIndiadestroyedterrorlaunchpadsontheirsideofLoCwould
alsomeanacceptingthefactthatterroristsexistandbreedhappilyontheirterritory.
Pakistanwouldnotwanttobeshamedinfrontoftheirowncitizensthattheyhave
beenslappedacrossthefacebytheIndianArmy.Andwouldneverwanttoadmitthat
IndiaiscapableofsuccessfullyretaliatingtoPakistansponsoredterror.
Beingcaughtunawares,PakistanArmymaynotwanttodirectlyrespondandescalate
thisincidentintoafullblownwar.ThisisbecausetheIndianArmyisfarsuperiorand
hasmuchmorewherewithalthanthePakistanArmy.ThereasonwhyGeneralZiaul
Haqdecidedtoadoptthebleedthroughathousandcutspolicy.
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AbhishekAkhani,InterestedinGlobalGeoPoliticalDevelopments
WrittenOct10
PakistaniPoliceOfficeracceptsthesurgicalstrikesinastingoperation.
MirpurSPconfirmsIndia'ssurgicalstrikes,saysPakarmyprotectsjihadisFirstpost
TheevidencesaregivenbyPakistanis.Nowdonttellmeitisalietoo.
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AkshayGupta,KeepcalmandtrustIndianarmy
WrittenOct7
OriginallyAnswered:DidIndia'ssurgicalstrikesagainstPakistanreallyhappen?Orisitalietopacify
hurtIndiansentimentandtosendamessageinternationally?
Wellitneverhappened.Iamgladsomeoneaskedit.
Iansweredaverysimilarquestionhere.Iurgeyoutoreadthisbeforegoinganyfurther.
AkshayGupta'sanswertoDidIndiafilmthesurgicalstrikeinBollywoodtoshowtheworld
afakevideofootageofthestrike?
Nowthatyouarehappy,Ihopeyouwillmakesearchingforthatkidasthesolemottoof
yourlife.
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HabibAfridi
WrittenSep30
ITISAMEGAJOKEsayingtocrosstheheavilyguardedLoC,takeactionandcome
backwithoutanylossorcasualties.
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theclaimisgivinganimpressionsuchthatPakistanis(andsocalledmilitants)wereunder
GeneralAnesthesiawhiletheIndianswerecarryingtheirsurgery.
Thefactthatwehaven'tbombedyouyetisenoughevidencetoprovet
hatthesocalled#
SurgicalStrike isjustamediagimmick.
Accordingtowww.thediplomate.com
IsIndiaCapableofaSurgicalStrikeinPakistanControlledKashmir?
AndAlsocheckaninterestingdebatebetweenindianandpakistangenerlists:
ShahzebkhanzadaTimeline
suchasurgicalstrikeoperationbyIndianforcesbegsthequestionofwhetherIndian
forceshavethecapabilitytolaunchsuchasophisticatedandcoordinatedattack.
Surgicalstrikescanbeconductedthroughairborneorartillerybasedprecisionguided
strikesorgroundforcebasedassaultsbothofwhichrequiresophisticatedintelligence
collection,platformstoconductcollections,andsurveillanceoftargetsitesandobjectives.
Indiaisstillonthecuspofbuildingasophisticatedandmodernizedasymmetrical
capability toconductcounterterroroperations,whilemuchofitsforcesarestill
organizedandtrainedonColdWarmodels.
Overthelastdecade,Indiahasspearheadedeffortstomodernizehermilitarytoinclude
domesticproductionofunmannedaerialvehicles(UAVs).RostumIandRostumIIcould
provideIndiawithanairplatformcapableofsurgicalstrikes,longloitertimesfortarget
surveillance,andintelligencecollection.However,theseplatformsarestillindevelopment
andRostumII justbegantesttrialsthissummer.Indiasdronedevelopmentprogramis
stillinitsinfancy.
Asforartillery,in2015,IndiaandBAEfinalizedcontractsforthesaleanddevelopmentof
newM777155mmhowitzersystem,capableoffiringthenewExcaliburGPSguidedshell.
However,developmentandproduction oftheartillerysystemisnotslatedtobeginuntil
2018.
IndiadoescurrentlyfieldaRussianGPSguidedmunitioncalledtheKrasnopol,thoughits
precisionfiresupportiswithina3040kmradiusanditsaccuracyisfarlesswhen
comparedtothenewExcaliburshell.
Asfarasprecisionstrikemissilecapability,IndiahasrecentlyacquiredtheU.S.antitank
guidedmissile(ATGM)Hellfire ,whichhasfrequentlybeenusedfortargetingoperations
byU.S.forces.IndiaiscurrentlyproducingadomesticATGM calledtheHelina,a
helicopterlaunchedprecisionstrikemissile,thoughthismissileisstillundergoingtesting.
Inotherwords,muchofIndiasasymmetricalwarfarecapabilityisstillbeingdeveloped
andtested.Theexamplesabovearebynomeansanexhaustivelistbutitcertainlydetailsa
capacitynotfullydevelopedbyIndianforces.
Furthermore,acrossborderairraidbyeitherheliborneassetsordroneswouldstillprove
exceedinglydifficultasPakistanboasts anincrediblyimpressiveairdefensesystem .
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PakistancontrolledKashmirisahighthreatareaforshoulderfiredsurfacetoair
missiles ,someofwhichhavefoundtheirwayintothehandsofmilitantgroups.Anyair
operationovertheterritorywouldbeunderthreatfromtheseweaponsystems.
Comeon!itswakeuptime.theindianmilitaryandgovt.wereunderimmensepressureto
dosomethingafterUriattack.theyhavetorespondbygivingafakeillusiontotheirentire
nation.HencetheyprovedTheycantmessupwithPakistanotherwisetheydidntneed
thefalsesurgicalstrike.
Cheers
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MohanJanga
WrittenOct3
OriginallyAnswered:DidtheIndianArmyreallycarryoutsurgicalstrikesinPoK?
IfIndianArmydidnotcarryoutsurgicalstrikes,whyisPakistancallingforanurgent
meetingintheParliamentandmilitaryHQ.Whytheyusethreatoftacticalnuclear
weapons,whydotheytrytoattackIndianArmyatBaramullahrecently(frustration),why
theygotoUS&UNOandcomplainaboutIndianAttack?Howhavesomanynations
joinedtoboycottSAARCsummittobeheldinPAK?(theygotconfidencefromIndian
strikesonPoK.
Nowyoucanguessthetruthisthereornot.
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ArunTheagarajan,Pak,Chinaobserver
WrittenOct3
OriginallyAnswered:DidsurgicalstrikereallyhappenedbyIndiainLOC?Whichmediaiscorrect?India
orPakistan?
Icallitaspreemptivestrikeinsteadofsurgicalstrike.Andtherewascrossborderattack
byIndianSpecialforcestosabotagecertainspecifics.
Mediaofbothcountrieshypeincidenttochurnpatrioticwavetoanotherlevel,wecannot
ignorehandsofISIandRAWinthemediatrail.
Andnocountryeverreleasedactualfootage,butdoctoredimagesofinsignificant
particularsafterthroughfilteringifitisabsolutenecessary,releaseofevidencemay
compromisefutureassignments,evenfullcombatsuitwithgearsenoughforadversariesto
shifttheirtactics.
somepartofthosevideoswillbeusedtotrainsplforcesmocktraining.
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JatinSingh,Averysmalllerner
WrittenOct5
Hi
Perhapsnoneofusseenit.In
bothcountries.
Butitwasamilitaryaction.Itwasadarknight,weatherwasbad,forestarea.
1)ThestatementofDGMOissufficient.DGMOisnotasmallrankofficer.Thisisnot
PakistaniDGMO.HeisanIndianDGMO.Hewouldn'tgivefalsestatement.
TheinterviewsofPOKpeople,whoagreedTheyheardheavysoundoffire.Formore
than4hours.Samenight.
ThereactionfromPakDefenceMinister.
ThereactionofHafeezSaeed.
ThereactionofImranKhan.
WHYgovtofIndianotwanttoairthisvideo?
Itcontainsallinfoabt.Indianmilitarystretgy,theirdevices,weapons,andplanning.
Indianspecialforce,personnelsidentitiescannotbeexposed.
EvenUSafterkillingBinLAdenneverrevealedanyinfo.
Howtheentireoperationexecuted?
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ITisthepartofIndianmilitaryoperations,theirstrategyandplanning.It
cannotberevealed.Becauseourenemyarmieswilltaketheadvantage.
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AnandTiwari,JayJawaanJaiKisaan!
WrittenOct3
OriginallyAnswered:WhatistheproofofIndianArmy'ssurgicalstrike?
1.DidpeopleallovertheWorldaskUSaboutthesurgicalstriketheydidin
AbottabadwhentheykilledOsamaBinLaden,thebiggestfaceofterrorism?
2.WhatforPakistaniArmychiefwarningusforabefittingreplyifnothing
happened?
3.WhytheleadersofterroristorganizationsaresayingthatIndiawillhaveto
payforthis?
4.Theyaresayingnosurgicalstrikehappenedandthenaddingthatwehave
killed8menofIndianArmyandcaughtoneofem.WTF?Ifnothinghappened
howdidyoumanagetokilloursoldiersandcatchthem.
Iseriouslythinkthisproofthingislikenottrustingourowncountry,ourownbeloved
IndianArmyandoursoldiers.
PakistanalsodeniedforthissurgicalstrikebyUSatAbottabadbefore.Doyouthinkwe
shouldreallytrustPakistanafteralltheseattacksthey'vebeendoingonus,afterallthese
ceasefireviolationskillingourbravesoldiersonborder?
NobodyaskedUSforaproofofthesurgicalstriketheydid.Ourownpeoplequestioning
thisissounfairtoourSoldierswhoaredyingdoingthereduty,protectingus.
LtGeneralRanbirSinghhasofficiallyconductedpressconferencetoletthe
worldknowabouttheoperation.healsomentionedthatitwasthenecessity
ofthemoment.
Seethevideointhelinkbelow:
Wait,ifnothinghappenedatLOCwhythehellarethesepeoplereactingthisway?Whyare
theleadersofPakistaniterroristorganizationssayingintheirspeechesthattheyaregoing
togiveananswertoourgovernmentoursoldiers.
SeethisvideoofHafeezSaeedthreatingIndiaaboutthesesurgicalattacks.
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TheysaidthattwoIndiansoldierswerekillednearLOCandtheirbodiesarekeptasitisas
Indiaisdenyingtotakethebodiesoftheirsoldiers.Whythehellwe'lldothis?Thishas
happenedmanytimesandourarmyneverdoesthiskindofstuff.Werespectoursoldiers
andwewillneverleaveanybodiesofoursoldiersunattendedandweallknowhow
makingthesekindsofdramashavemadethemfallontheirfacesbefore.
Supposenothinghashappenedthere.WhywillNawazShareefsendhisarmyonborders
then?
Theytookabout40mediapersonstotheplacewherethishappenedtheysaid.Wellhow
canwetrusttheytookthosemediapersonstothesameplacewheresurgicalstrike
happened?
AndmoreoverRajnathSinghsaidwaitfortherightmomenttorevealtheproofofthese
attacks.
"Notjustthenation,buttheentireworldhasseenandacknowledgedtheexampleof
courageandvalourshownbyourbravesoldierswhichhasmadeIndiaproud,"Rajnath
saidonthesidelinesofaSwachhBharateventatDelhi.
MomentsafterIndianArmyclaimedthatithasconductedsurgicalstrikesacrossLoC,
PakistanPrimeMinisterNawazSharifwasthefirsttocondemnit.Heassertedthat
Pakistantooisreadywithits'defence'.
Justtakealookattheirreactionsandthinkifnothinghappenedtherewhywouldthey
reactlikethis.
Surgicalstrikes:PakistanArmychiefwarnsIndiaofa'fittingresponse'
JayHind!JayBharat!
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PranayPonnath,Born,educatedandlivinginIndia
UpdatedOct2
OriginallyAnswered:HowdoweknowifthesurgicalstrikesbyIndiainPOKarerealandnota
misinformation?
Iftheattackwasjustanotheroneofthefrequentcrossborderfiringthenitwouldhave
beendealtbythemidrungsofPakistaniarmyandwouldneverhavereachedthepeakof
Pakistaniadministration.ButthereactionbythehigherrungsofPakistaniadministration
isindicativeofthefactthatitwasamuchmorethanaroutineborderincident.
TheaveragePakistaniconsiderhimselfequaltoIndians,inmilitarystrength,economically
andpoliticallyandalsosincethePakistanigovernmentandarmyneedspublicsupport
andcurrentlycan'taccommodatearequestforretributionandrevengewhichwillariseif
infoisreleasedinpublic.
Thoughcovertopshavebeendonebefore,forthefirsttimepubliclythegovernmenthas
takencredit.MoreovertheModigovernmentistalkingaboutrethinkingitsinduswater
policywhichisafirstindecades.AndalsomanycountrieswhichPakistanconsideredas
allweatherfriendshasdistancedthemselves.Indiatoowastalkingabouteconomicand
diplomaticmeasureinitiallyandPakistanwascaughtoffguard.Soduetoallabove
reasons,Pakistanisstickingtoitsusualrhetoricanddenyingasit'stryingtowrapitshead
aroundthesuddencontoursinIndiasforeignpolicy.
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AbhishekRampalli,Engineerandcook
WrittenOct6
PoK?
Surgicalstrikes:Bodiestakenawayontrucks,loudexplosions,eyewitnessesgivegraphic
details
andwatchcnnibntheyhaveainterviewwithmirpurpoliceSIwhosaidyestostrikes
mirpurinpok!
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ShwetaSrikkanth,ProudIndianfrombody,heartandsoul.
WrittenOct7
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Whydoesanyoneneedanyevidence?WedontowePakistanisanything,letaloneaproof
ofthestrikesandifyouareanIndianaskingforevidence,well,shame.
IfonecantsimplytrusttheirNationshigherauthoritiesinsuchsituations,givenour
countrystrackrecord,shame.
Itsashame,yetagain,thatsomuchpressureistherethattheIndianArmyhasgivena
greensignalforthereleaseofthesurgicalstrikeoperationvideo.
Ibetpeoplewouldntbegoingaroundaskingforevidenceifevenoneofoursoldier
haddiedduringtheoperation.
Allthishypeanddoubthasbeencreatedsimplybecauseeverybodycame
backalive,onlyonejawanwasinjured(washe?Someofyoumightdoubt
eventhis!)
Ourcountrymenshouldinsteadrejoiceoverthefactthatmostofthesoldierscameback
unharmedandnoonedied!
Thereareotheranswershereonthisquestionwhichwouldextensivelylistoutevidences
butthiswastheonlythingthatcametomymindandIwouldjustendwith..
Janaazelautkeaate
Tohunkosabootmiljaate,
Salamataagayejaanbaaz,
Kyayebadkismatihogayi?
JAIHIND!
http://m.economictimes.com/news/...
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ArpitSihra,Belongtothiswonderfulcountry.
WrittenOct6
Yes.IndiahasconductedastrikesintheP.O.K.andthisisconfirmedbythe
following:
1.)D.G.M.O.brokethenewsinapressconference.
2.)Thegovt.sharedthenewswithallthepartiesinanallpartymeeting
3.)Thenewsandafewdetailsweresharedwiththeenvoysof22countries.
4.)NawazSharifinhisinitialstatementsagreedthattherewerestrikesbutlaterdueto
politicalpressuresaiditwasjustfiringbyIndianforces.
However,Pakistanisdenyingitbecauseifitsaysthis:
1.)Itllprovethattheirlandisusedbyterroristsforestablishingcamps
2.)ItllbeaveryhumiliatingthingforthePakistaniArmywhichfordecadeshasbeen
takingprideinthefacttheyreHELPINGpeopleofKashmirinIndiaandthattheyve
neverbeenattacked.
3.)ItllleadtocuttingdownoffundsgivenbytheU.S.andothercountriestoPakistanas
theultimateuseofthosefundswillbeprovedtobespentonspreadingterrorisminIndia.
Nowcomingtothebiggerquestion:Canthedetailsofthestrikesmegiventotheworldby
thegovt.?Yesandno.
Yes,becausemanycountrieshavedoneitinthepast.IsraelinUganda,U.S.inBayofPigs,
CubaandIranetc.Countriesprovideinfoaboutthestrikestotheworldduetothe
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followingmajorreasons:
1.)Toshowthattheclaimsbythegovt.aretrueandtheinfoprovidedbythegovtscanbe
trustedinfuture
2.)Toshowthatnowarcrimesweredoneintheseoperations
3.)Nocivilianswereinjuredintheoperations
4.)Nopublicbuildinglikehospitalsandhealthcarefacilitiesweretargetedbythearmy.
Andtheymaynotbesharedbecausethegovt.mayconsideritasathreattothesecurityof
thecountryduetoanyreasontheymayfindappropriate.
Nowthebiggestquestionthatleadtothewholecontroversyofthisprovidingtheinfo
aboutthesurgicalstrikething:Whyisthewesternmediasayingthattherewasnostrike?
Simplereason,becausethewestwantsitscitizensandrestoftheworldtobelieveso.
PakistanasacountryisveryimportantforU.S.A.Soimportantthattheystillhaventdone
anythingbigtoitevenafterkillingOsamainPakistan.Afewthreatshereandthere,afew
droneattacksbutnothinglikedeclaringitamilitantstate.Simplybecauseiftheydoit,
theyllnotbeabletoprovidePakistanthoseBillionsofdollarsinaidwhichisusedfor
differentreasonssuchasbribestotheirarmyofficials,bribestoauthoritiesinFATAetc.
whichinawayhelpskeepthingsundercontrolinAfghanistan.
Ofcourseeverybigcountrysintelligencehasalreadygottheinfoaboutitbuttheyllstill
nottakeaclearstandonitbecauseiftheydo.TheyllhavetostopfundingPakistanand
PakistanwillstopdoingitsworkontheAfghanborderwhichinthelongrunwillbehuge
problemtotheU.S.becauseitsthemesstheyvecreated.
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AsitDhal,KnowPakistanwell
WrittenOct8
Pakistaniscanonlygiveusevidence,becauseIndiandefenseministrywontreveal
anything.Pakistancanalsodisprovebygivingusaccurateevidence.Indianmilitaryhas
shareddetailsaboutwherethesurgicalstrikehappened.So,thePakistaniscouldhave
allowedthemediaonthesameplaceiftheywantedtoproveitneverhappened.
ThereisanIndiansoldierontheotherside.So,somethinghappened.
Pakistanlostquiteagoodnumberofinsurgents.Thisisthereason,whymostPakistanis
arefurious.Insurgentscostmoneytobetrained.Readytodiepeoplealsocostsmoney.
Everyone,startingfromacommonmantothePMofPakistan,stronglydenyaboutthe
surgicalstrike.Ifitdidnthappen,youdonttalk.Moondidntexplodeyesterday.So,no
oneistalkingaboutMoonexplosion.
WhatmadetheworlddenyIndiasclaim?
MostinternationalmediahousereportedsomethinghappenedandIndianarmycrossed
theborder.NoonedeniedIndiasclaim.
Pakistanmediacantbeconsideredasaninternationalmedia,becausetheyareapartof
thedispute.Theyarealsoknownforsupportingmilitarypropaganda.
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SaurabhRathi,BornandBroughtupinIndia
WrittenSep29
ProbablythebiggestevidenceisthewaythegovernmentofPakistanandthevarious
sectionsareresponding.
DoyouexpectPakistanigovernmenttomakesuchanoisehaditbeenjustaceasefire
incident(whichareverycommon)onIndoPakLoC.
ItwasforsureabigoperationsandPakistanwouldneveracknowledgeitfortworeasons:
a)ItwillamounttoacceptingthefactthatthereareterrorcampsonPOK.
b)ItwillbeanincidentofabsoluteshameforPakisataniGovernmentandthePakistani
Army.
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JatinGosalia,Commonman
WrittenSep30
Indiaisaverybigmaturedemocraticcountry.Whenstatementisgivenbyarmy,claiming
this,thereisnoneedforanyconfirmation.Inthisstrike,about150armymenwhere
involvedandmanymoresupportsystemswouldhavebeeninvolved.AbovethisIndian
armyhasclaimedthatnociviliandamageisdone.Inthisoperation,aspertheclaim,38
terroristshasbeengundown,butthefigureisunderrateditslikelytobemore.Body
languageofPakistanleadershipandarmymenyesterdayspoketoomuch.Whenyoulook
atIndianGovernment,thiscantbeabigbluff,becausethoughnottoday,ifanythingbluff
comesouttomorrow,itwouldbedifficultforgovernmenttosavetheface.Lookingat
NarendraModigovernmentwhenithasanedgeallovertoday,weshouldbelievethe
governmentandarmytoday.
Videographyhasalreadybeendone,byIndianarmy,thatwillcomeoutsoon.Asno
civiliancasualtiesreported,thisclaimcantbeverifiedfromthatend.
Duringkargil,initialbluffofPakistanarmycameoutlateronanditwasverydifficultfor
musharafftoexplain,soifnottoday,inveryshorttimetruthcomesout.Lookingat
maturegovernmentandarmyofIndia,thatbluffisunexpected.
Withallabove,notasinglecabinetministerofModigovernmenthasreactedin
excitement,thisseemsaverywellthoughtstrategybehindthis.
BigsalutetoIndianArmyandBigsalutetoNarendraModiGovernment.
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AbhikPaul,PakistanisnotaNationState,Itsanacronym.
WrittenSep29
MyOnlyAnsweris,AGovernmentwhichisknownfortheirworldresponsibilitiesand
supportforthepeople.Whorepresent1.2Billionpeople.CantLie.Theirliecanharmall
India.
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PrahasthaPanchaity,Engineer
WrittenSep29
OriginallyAnswered:HowdidtheIndianArmysucceedinthesurgicaloperationinPakistan?
SStimeline:
1.Operationbeginsaround12.30amonWednesday.Accordingtoreports,paratroopers
fromSpecialForceswereinvolved.
2.ThecommandoswereairdroppedattheLoC,fromwheretheycrossedovertothe
Pakistaniside.
3.Accordingtosources,IndiancommandosenteredthreekilometresacrosstheLineof
Controltoconductthe'surgicalstrikes'
4.ThestrikeswerecarriedoutinBhimber,Hotspring,Kel&Lipasectors,onPak'ssideof
LoC,accordingtoreports.
5.Thelocationwas500meters2KmacrossLoC,sourcessaid
6.7terrorlaunchpadsweredestroyedduringthesurgicalstrike
7.38terroristsand2PakistanisoldierswerekilledinIndianArmysurgicalstrikes,no
Indiancasualties.Thosekilledincludedterrorists,theirguidesandhandlers
8.Helicopterswereused.Mission,accordingtoreports,endedat4.30am
9.Operationperformedwithoutmoonlightasitwasnomoonday
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ImranAfzal
WrittenOct2
AmadeupSurgicalStrikewouldrequiretimetocomeupwithaDoctored
evidence.Since,theIndianestablishmentistakingalotoftimeinprovidingaconcrete
evidenceconfirmingthesestrikes,nottomentiontheirdenyingofaccesstotheUNMOGto
verifythesestrikesactuallyhappened,thesesocalledsurgicalstrikesappeartobemade
up.
Moreover,PakistanMilitaryisreputedasoneofthemostprofessionalarmiesofthe
world.Itiswellequippedandwelltrainedinconventionalandnonconventionalwarfare.
Also,ithasbeenengagedinWaronTerrorformanyyears,andhenceitiscombat
ready.Therefore,itishardtobelievethatsuchanArmywouldnotrespondinabefitting
mannerifanenemyforceinvadeditsborderstoconductamilitarystrike,especiallywhen
forcesarealreadyonhighalert.
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SukantPandit
WrittenOct5
orPakistan?
Firstofall,Iamapatrioticindiancitizenandhavingtherightoffreeexpression,Iam
presentingmypersonalviewsonthisforum.
Afterlotofmatterresearchoninternet,readingasmanyarticlesIcouldfrommedia
reportsallaroundtheworld,ItsveryhardtobelievethatIndiareallydidasurgicalstrike.
Firstlyletmetellyousomeimportantaspectofsurgicalstrike.Themaingoalistoreach
thedesiredobjectivewithleastcollateraldamage.Themaincomponentisspeed.And
aroundtheglobewhereversurgicalstrikeshavetakenplaceit'swiththehelpofguided
missilesorairforce.Indiahassaidthearmypersonnelscreepedbelowthefence,thisis
knownasfootonground(technicallanguage)
Nowasindiaclaimsofhitting7targetsalmost250kmapartfrom1stto7th,by7different
groupsofspecialforces.HereIwouldliketoputlightonsomefactsthatpakistanarmyis
theworld's6thlargesrarmywithfarlessborderareathanIndia.
SecondlyPakistanhasaveryheavyguardednortheastborderinazadkashmirorPoK.
Nowitsmorelikeacommonsensethatinfiltratingbordersat7places,atthesametime
andafterdoingdamageinsidecomingwithoutsingleconfrontationfrompakistanarmy,it
soundsalmostimpossible.
Thirdlywheneverandwhereverarmyattackstheyhavecovetedpersonelwhotellsaboutat
whatangletostrikeorwheretostrikeorhowmuchcasualatieshavebeendone.ButIndia
hasfailedtotellanyexactofficialnumbers,whichisveryveryrareforanarmy.
Fourthly,IndianeverreallytoldabouthowIndiadidtheoperation,norissharingthe
videopublicallycitingsecurityreasons.Nowwhatsecurityreasons,willpakistangetthe
coordinates?Theyalreadyhave,willterroristoutfitwillcometoknowwhoallgotkilled?
Theyalreadyknow.LookatUSAafterkillingOsamatheytoldthewholeworldhowdid
theywentaboutit,andevenshowedwhogotkilledandeverything.
Fifthly,Indialackssuchweaponsandinstrumentsneededforsuchoperationatsuch
toughterrain.Thoseequipmentsareeitherintestingphaseorindevelopmentalphase(
ReadDiplomatmagzineofUSAarticle).
Sixth,Atthesocalledlocationswhereoperationtookplace,CNN,BBCreporterswentand
foundnodamage,webelievethattheycleaneduoeverythingbutIndiasaidthatit
attackedwithgrenedelauncher,andwheneverthereisanexplosionofgrenedeorany
explosive,thesoildismantles,cratorisformed,lotofsmallmetalpelletsandsharpsare
released,nowcleaningallthosethingsalsoseemsverystrange.Onecanfillupthecrator
withfreshsoilbutonecaneasilymakeoutthatwhetheracratorisfilledornot.
Seventhly,
AsperBBCandwashingtonpost,theyaskedpeopleofthevillagewhereIndiahas
supposedlydonesurgicakstrikeandtheyallsaid,caesefireviolationtookplacewhichisa
commonphenomenonforthemandnothingelse.
Eighthly,
AsperIndianexpressreporttodaytheyhavesaidthatcasualatieshavetakenplacein2
placeswhilepeoplehaveheardgunfiresandmortarsat1placewhichisagainfarlesswhat
Indiaclaimed.
Ninthly,aspernewyorktimes,washingtonpost,CNN,BBCandallovertheworlditissaid
"surgicalstrike"'asclaimedbyindia'.Theyhaveneverreallysaidthatindiaeverdid.
Tenthly,Thequint(indianmedia),Citizen(indianmedia)havealsoaskedthisquestionthat
whetheritactuallyhappened.Andlatesttojoinisajapanesemagzinewhoalsocallsit
impossible.
NowagainIwouldliketodrawlightthattherearemanythingswhichhappeninarmy
anditdoesntcomeout.Manythingshappeninpoliticswhichdoesntcomeout.Our
informationisbasedonmediawhichistooloudandskewed(inboththenations).
Ifsomebodyhastoaskwhatreallyhappened,acrossborderfiringandshellingwhicheven
pakistanagreedandalsoconfirmeddeathof2soldiers,ormaxtomaxsuchinfiltrationat
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1or2places,morethanthatseemsimplausible.
Itsapersonalview,IholdveryhighregardforIndianarmyandtheirimmenseabilityto
protectourbordersandsafeguardingus.Surgicalstrikestosuchlaunchpadswillhelp
bothnationsasbothnationsareverybadlyaffectedbyterrorism.
IfIndiareallydidthesurgicalstrike,theyshouldconfirmitbygivingproofsorgettingit
provedindependentlybyothernationandnotbyaprotestofhowonecanquestionthe
army.
Whatsoeveritis,ithappenedthenverygood,ifnotandjusta"fantasticmoviescript"for
consumptionbypublicasstatedindiplomatmagzine,thenalsoithasverygoodpolitical
benefitstotherulingparty.
Ijustpraythattensionresolvesandpeopleliveinpeace.95%peopleneedspeaceand
healthyrelations,lovebutbecauseoffewpeople,politicsandmediaforaddingfuel,ithas
literallycreatedabigfuzzandcreatingawarlikesituation.
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MrutyunjayJoshi,TopmostviewedWriterinIndianArmy'sSurgicalStrike
inPoK(September2016)
WrittenSep30
Pakistan?
Whatanirony!
WethepeopleoftheIndiaalwaysbelieveincultureoffamily.IndiaProudlyDeclaredand
proved.Butthephotosoftheoperationandkillingsaretoomadepublicduetosome
protocolsanditssecrecy.Sorry,Icantsharethosephotos,asitbeingfullofbloodand
messedupbodyterroristandPakistani.
ItisPakistan'shabittoalwaysdenytheirdefeatandlossinfrontofmedia.
WeloveourarmyandweareProudofthem.Butitistheironyofthecountrythatwestill
demandforproof.
IfwealltogetherwillnottrustournationandourArmythenwhereshouldtheygogain
trust.
Somethingsaretobekeptsecretkeepingnationalsecurityandinternationaldiplomacyin
mind.
ArmyhadcarriedoutmanyoperationslikethisSurgicalStrikebutitwasnevermade
publicbefore.FirsttimetheymadeitpublicjusttomakethepeopleIndiafeelacomfort
zonethatthereleadersandDefensehadworkedonthereanger.Pleasedonotdoubtthe
ArmyjustifPakistansaythatOperationisfake.
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KunalSharma,SoftwareEngineer,Southpaw,Sapiosexual
WrittenSep29
OriginallyAnswered:HasIndiaeverheldasurgicalstrike?
Therehasbeen3surgicalstrikesdonebyIndiatilltoday.OneinMyanmarandtwoin
Pakistan.
In2013,firstsurgicalstrikewasdonewhenPakistancuttheheadof2Indiansoldiers.
GeneralV.K.Singh,spokespersonofthatoperationhassaidthatitwasnotbroughtin
publicdomainatthattimeduetopoliticalreasons.
SecondwasdoneonMyanmarborder.
Thirdon29September,inwhich36terroristsarekilled.
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RajatChakraborty
WrittenSep30
OriginallyAnswered:DidIndiadosurgicalstrikesinsidePOK?
AmericalSEALteamcamewithHelicopters,assassinatedOsamaandtookawayhisbody
dumpingitintheocean,ThattoointheheartofPakistannearArmyCantonmentArea,
AndPakispeoplecouldn'tfigureout??????
WehavedonethesameatalesserlevelinthePOK.
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ItonlyproofsthathowstupidPakistaniarmyis.
Pakistanwillneveradmitbecause:
1.Itwillproofthattheywereshelteringterrorists
2.Itisahumiliationandinsulttobombast,machoPakistaniswhothinkIndia/Hindusare
weak.Theywanttodenyitbecauseitwillpuncturethemoraleofthenationalready
plaguedwithmultipleproblems.
3.Army'simageinPakistanwillbetarnished(theywillnotabletojustifyhugefundsthey
suckoutfromPakistan'sBudget)
IreallyfeelsorryforPakistanis,TheyaregoingtobecomeSouthAsianNorthKorea.
StayinginDenialmode,NotabletobelievethatKafirHinduscanbeatthemincombat,
Playingthevictimcardandthinkingthateverythingisaconspiracy.
GodSavePakistan
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AravindSekar,Learningbytheday...
WrittenOct1
Smallcorrection.ThestrikeswereonPakistanStatesupportedterroristsandNOTthe
PakistanArmyorState.
IfPakistanownsuptotheterrorists,thenYes,IndiaattackedPakistanandcanprovideall
theevidenceitneeds.EventheUSdidnotreleaseallthefootageoftheAbbottabad
incidentthenextday.
ThetimeofreleasingtheevidencewillbethechoosingoftheIndianState.Period.
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Anonymous
WrittenOct5
IthinkthereisadegreeofhyperboleinvolvedhereIndialikelytriedtotakeoutterrorist
launchpadsandsucceededatleastpartially.ThestatementthattheArmyoriginally
releasedneverreallyclaimedtohavecrossedtheLOCartilleryandothersystemscould
havebeenengagedwithsurgicalprecision.Iftheclaimswereindeedtrue,giventhat
Pakistanhascounteredthem,Indiawouldhavereleasedprooftoembarrassthem.
ArgumentslikeIndianeverliesetcareprettyweaklyingandspinarevaluabletoolsin
thegeopoliticalarsenalandwouldbestupidtoassumethatIndiadoesntusethem.
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VishwasMisra
UpdatedOct6
ItappearstobeacaseofIndianArmysversionvsthatofthePakistanArmy.Thereare
somepointsinresponsesbelowonfalseclaimsbytheIndianarmy.Toaddtothese,here
aresomeforthePakistanArmy:
1.DeniedtheraidthatkilledOsamawhenithappenedrightnexttotheirmilitary
academy.AndcouldnotinterceptalonghelicopterflightthatbroughtAmerican
troopsthereandtookthemback.So,anincursion23kmintotheterritory(as
claimedbyIndia)isnotsuchabigthingandmoreeasilymissed.
2.DeniedthattheirregularshadintrudedintoKargillalongwithTerroistsinIndiatill
theUSTimemagazineexposedit.Thereisalsophoneconversationtapoftheir
Generalsatthattimethatexposedtheirclaimtobealie.
3.In1971,throughoutthewarwithIndia,thePakistanarmyandmediaclaimedthat
theywerewinningeasily.Then,theysuddenlysurrenderedandlosttheeasternhalfof
thecountry.
4.ThePakistanArmyhasgrowntoobloatedandcomfortable.Theofficersaregiven
propertyinprimelandsandthearmyhasoccupiedplumpostsingovernmenttill
recently.So,theyhavebeentoodistractedtoorganizedefenses.Point#1abovewould
supporythat.TheIndianarmyhadremainedoutofpoliticsandso,hasbeenless
distracted.
TheIndianarmyhasnotmadeanypublicpronouncementsthathavebeendisprovedat
thescalementionedabove.Thepointsbelowbysomepeoplesuggestdisputedclaimsand
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notdisprovedclaimsbytheIndianArmy.InthecaseofPakistanArmy,claimsmadehave
beenwithdrawninthefaceofstrongevidence.
SotheweightofcredibilitysuggeststhatIndiadidindeedcarryoutasurgicalstrike.Ifthis
hashappenedwiththePakistanArmyonhighalertandwiththeirGeneralssayingthat
they'rereadytorepelallincursions,thenpubliclyacceptingthemwouldimplyeithera
retaliationresultinginquickescalationorahumiliatingresignationofseniorarmy
commanders.Denyingtheraidmaybeagoodwaytoensurethatthingsdonotescalate.
IndianleadershipmaynotmindthisPakistandenial.Theirmessagewastothemilitants
andtheirarmysupporters.Thatmessagehadbeendelivered.Itwillbecomemorecostlyto
supportterrorinIndia.
Updated6thOct:
MirpurSuprintendentOfPolice(PakistanOccupiedKashmir)talkingtoanIndian
reporterposingasanInspectorGeneral(seniorofficer)ofPakistanpolice.Confirmedthe
strike.ButsaidthatthedamagewasnotasextensiveastheIndianmediawas
portraying.thoughhealsosaidthatinhisknowledge5PakistanArmysoldierswere
killed.
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PrashantSinha,Indianarmedforceinmyblood
WrittenOct6
PoK?
Whyshouldwe??
Itslikebeatinganuisancecreatingfilthyfellowandthenscreamingattopofourvoicethat
itaughthimalesson.
Iwontdothatunlessathirdpartyisinvolved.Iamcontentandmorethanhappywith
myselfthatididagoodjob.Ifsomeoneneedsaproof,itsfortheirinsatiableegomassage
andthattheycantdigestthefactthatIamgrownupandcanchallengehimaswell.
Theywantproofwishingthatihavenotdoneitandtheycanfeelrelieved.
Iamsmilingthatididitandjealouspeoplearecravingtoproveitisfalse
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SandeepKumar
WrittenOct4
OriginallyAnswered:IsittruethatIndiaisfakingasurgicalstrike?
well..thisissueislittlescepticalsincealittleisknownabouthowtheoperationshadbeen
conducted.Indiahasprovidedfewdetailsoftheoperationbutsourcesindicatethatthe
surgicalstrikesconsistedofaheliborneunitandSpecialForcesthatinfiltratedtheLoC
andconductedassaultsonsevensuspectedterroristlaunchpadsthatweretwotothree
kmbeyondtheLoC.
ItisunderstandablethatIndiahasbeenveryseriousabouttherecentattacksonUriwhich
claimed18livesofoursoldiers.OurPMhasalsopromisedtohitbackattheterrorists,and
thisisthestepwhichistakenbyhimalongwithoutNSAMr.Ajitdoval.
NowthequestionariseswhypakistandeniedsurgicalstrikesacrossLoC?
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1.PakistanwontacceptdefeatbyIndianarmy
2.pakistanisdefendingitsarmychiefreputation
3.pakistanalwaysdenieslatertoexposethemselvesinglobalplatform.
P.S:IfIndia'ssurgicalstrikeneverhappened,justlikeOsamawasnotkilledinPakistan,
Indianeverwon1971,Indianeverwonkargilwar,BangladeshisstilleastPakistan.
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DivyanshuVyas,PatrioticIndian
WrittenOct10
ThestrikewasrealasbecausetheArmyofficiallyacceptedit,andthisisINDIANARMY,
thenameisenoughtopresentdiscipline,honestyanddedicationtowards
ourcountry.
(THESEAREMYOWNVIEWSANDOPINIONS,PLEASEDONTGET
OFFENDED)
Now,tothosewhothinkitwasnotreal,speciallyfromPakistanwhohavebeenaccusing
Indiawiththeirillogicalfantasiesintheanswersection:
Thewholeworldknowsthetypeofgoodandstrongrelationsbetweenyourgovernment
andterrorist.WhathappenedinPeshawarwheremorethan140innocentsoulslosttheir
lives?PakistancanthandlethisbittertruththatSurgicalstrikewassomanagedthatyour
armycouldnottrackit(accordingtoeyewitnessesandthestatementgivenbyhafizsaed)
Now,thelegitimacyofthisStrikeconcerned,weIndiansneverstartawar,butasyoucan
seePakistanalwaysgetaffectedbytheirmediasandfakenewschannels,itsnotyourfault
thatyoudontfindthislegitenoughtoaccept.ThemainpurposeofIndianarmywastokill
thesemilitantsandfinishthejob.OurIndianarmyisfocusedtocreatepeace,nottoprove
actionstosomeonewhohasitsdiplomaticpoliciestodenyeachandeveryfactprovidedby
India.
So,justoneline.Wecame,wedestroyedyourterrorismandfinishedourjobs.Goseeyour
newsanchorslaughingonthisincidents,wewillkeepdoingthesemissionsjusttoknock
theseterrorists.ItssadthatyouguysdontknowwhatrealSurgicalstrikesare,
Agovernmentwillneverleakitsimportantfootageofoperationsinordertoprotectthe
protocolandprivacy,justlikewhathappenedinPakistanregardingOsamaLinLaden.
Rightnow,Therearenofactsfromtheboththesidesdepictingthetruthasbecauseits
highlysensitiveissue,thefootageshallbereleasedbytheIndiangovernmentwhenever
theywishtodoso,tillthenWATCHOUTTERRORISTS!!
Also,itsbetterforboththecountriestoclearthismessinordertomaketheregion
peaceful,andthatswhatIndianarmyisdoingforsure.
Peace
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Anonymous
WrittenOct8
Idon'tunderstandwhyweneedtoprovetoPakistanthatwedidstrikes.
Pakistanwillneveracceptit.Hereisthereason:
Pakistanwascreatedonathesis.ThatHinduandMuslimaretwodifferentraces.Hinduis
GhaaskhorBaniyaKafirincapableoffightingwhoalwaysstabsinbackbutcantdarein
frontwhoisnomatchtomartialracemeateatingconquererMuslims.
PakistaniSciencebooksstartwithAllahcreateduniversebysayingQunFayqun(beand
universecameintoexistence)anditshistorybooksstartwith710ADwhenMuhammad
BinQasiminvadedHinduSindhandmadeitDarulIslam(landofIslam).
TheirthesisisMuslimscametoIndiaonhorsesofQasim'sarmyandsettledinIndia.Then
morecamewithGhori,Ghazni,Babur,Tughlaks,Khiljis,Abdalisetc.
ThusyoufindmanyMunavvarRanas,PervezChouhansandJavedChoudharysin
PakistanwhowouldtellyouhowtheyaredirectdescendantsofProphetMuhammadof
Arab.
Copyright~Agniveer.
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NextthingthateveryPakistanibelievesisoneMuslimisstrongerthan10HinduKafirsput
together.
NowthattheMuslimssuperiorityisestablishedoverHinduBaniya,theyhavetowinevery
warinhistorybooks.
So
TheytellyoustoriesofhowMuslimsruledHinduIndiafor1000years
Theywon'ttelltheirkidshowBaburfearedRanaSanga,AkbarfearedPratap,Afzal
fearedShivaji,WazirKhanfearedBandaBahadur,andPathansfearedHariSinghNalwa
andRanjitSingh.
Theydidnotacceptdefeatin1948
Theydidnotacceptdefeatin1965(theyclaimtheywonthewar,celebrate6September
asDefenceDayfortheysavedLahoreonthisdayafterattackingKashmirfewdaysago!)
Theydidnotacceptdefeatin1971.Theyairedfalsenewsoftheirvictorywhileits93,000
soldierswereontheirkneesinfrontof2500IndianJawans.Laterwheninternational
mediaspreadit,theirpeoplegottoknowaboutit.Andbelieveme,Iknowpeoplewhosay
surrendervideosarefake.Indianpropaganda.
Theydidnotacceptdefeatin1999Kargil.Theydiditbydenyingtheirinvolvementinwar
infirstplace.
Recently,whenthemovieBajiraoMastanicame,theyimmediatelybannedit.Doyou
knowthereason?
TheyaretaughtthattheyruledHinduIndiafrom8thcenturytill1857.
TheyaretoldthattheykeptHinduwomenintheirbedsfor1000years.
ButsuddenlywhenyoutellthemtherewasaHinduPeshvawhohadaMuslimwifeand
whowasneverdefeatedbyanyIslamicforceever,itviolatestheir1Muslim>10Hindu
BaniyaequationandthustheybanneditforsomeonemaystartquestioningIslamic
martialraceandtheoryof1000yearsrule.
Soafterallthis,anyonewhobelievestheywillacceptthatHinduBaniyahasbeatenthem
intheirownterritory(aspertheirclaimsonPOK)islivinginfool'sparadise.
Sowhattodo?Nothing.Keephittingthemhardlikewedidrecently.Keepbleedingthem
tillthedaytheycometotheirkneesandconfesstheyareslavesonlyandcannotfightthe
sonsofsoilofBharatMata.
VandeMataram!
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RanajayDas,MostviewedwriteraboutIndianArmy'ssurgicalstrikein
Pok
WrittenOct4
See,IndiahasnotrelasedanyevidencesabouttheSurgicalStriketillnow.
ButIdobelievethatthesurgicalstrikecarriedoutbyIndiawasREAL.
Therearesomereasons:
1.Firstofall,thespecialforcescalledtheParaTrooperswhoweresaidtohavecarried
outtheoperationareindeedverymuchcapableofsuchoverseasaction.Theyarethe
mostsophisticallytrainedArmedForceintheIndianArmy.Theirtrainingis
intenmsiveandstrainiousandsotheybecomeexpertsinsuchcrossborderstrikes.So,
thereisnodoubtthattheyarecapableofcarryingouttheSurgicalStrikeonPok
2.ThelastandtehfinalreasonconfirmsthehappeningsoftheSurgicalStrike.
RememberthataftertheIndianGovernmenttoldtheworldthenewsaboutthe
SurgicalStrike,Pakistansaidthatnoterroristswerekilledbut2oftheir
soldierswerekilled.
Thisisapointofcommonsense.Whywouldacountryacknowledgethatthey
shelterterrorists?Pakistanwillneveracceptthat35terroristswerekilledinthe
surgicalStrike.Thatwouldalsobeveryinsultingforthem.Sotheytriedtoact
diplomaticallybysayingonly2oftheirsoldierswerekilledintheaction.
ThisprovesthattheIndianArmyactuallydidcarryoutanoperationinPok.
Salutetooursoldiers!JaiHind!
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SoumenMohanty,enthusiasticforarmedforces
WrittenSep30
Pakistan?
Letsforgetaboutthemediaforawhile.Indiacondemnstheurisectorattackmadebythe
militantsforwhichour18soldiersdied.ThemilitantscrossedLOCtodestroythearmy
baseandtocreateinstabilityintheJ&kregion.Thewholecountrysharescondolencefor
themartyrsandthenceforthcreationofavengeineveryIndian'sheart.Fromamilitary
mantoapoliticiantoaordinarycitizenstandingatteastall.Thewholenationwasinone
mood.Indiahastohavetotakeactiononthis.Thoughsomemilitarylingoareobsessed.
NowthereactionasitentertaineduswithjoythatindianarmyconductedastrikeinPoK
anddestroyedunauthorizedmilitarycampsandmassivedestructionaccountstolossof
terrorismwhichweremeanttoharmournationandthehumanity.
Realityinthisis(1)armychiefofPakistanadmitstwoofpakistanisoldierswerekilledin
thelatenightsurgicalstrike.(2)declarationbygovtofficials.(3)changeofstatementgiven
bydefenceministerofPakistanonbombingIndiaaftersurgicalstrike.
Thoughtherealevidenceisnotsharedbyarmedforcesorintelligenceservicetothe
civilians,declarationbyDGMORanvirSinghisenoughtobelievethatindianarmyrejoiced
thenationavengingtheterrorism.
JayHind...
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ChiyoHirakuSuzuki,chio
WrittenOct3
ABigNOindiaissimplynotcapableofcarryingoutasurgicalstrike.
JapaneseNewsPaperthediplomatalreadyexposedtheDramaofIndian
SurgicalStrikeinPakistan
AsurgicalstrikeoperationbyIndianforcesbegsthequestionofthemilitaryscapabilityto
launchsuchanattack.
OnThursdayIndiaclaimedithadconductedasurgicalstrikeinPakistancontrolled
KashmiracrosstheLineofControl(LoC).PakistandeniedthatIndiacarriedouta
surgicalstrikeandclaimedthattwoofitssoldierswerekilledincrossborderfire.
Thenotionofsurgicalstrikelinkedtoallegedterroristsbasesisanillusionbeing
deliberatelygeneratedbyIndiatocreatefalseeffects,thePakistanimilitarysaidina
statement.
Indiasdirectorgeneralofmilitaryoperations,Lt.Gen.RanbirSingh,publiclyannounced
thestrike.Hestated,Basedonreceivingspecificandcredibleinputsthatsometerrorist
teamshadpositionedthemselvesatlaunchpadsalongtheLineofControltocarryout
infiltrationandconductterroriststrikesinsideJammuandKashmirandinvariousmetros
inotherstates,theIndianarmyconductedsurgicalstrikesatseveraloftheselaunchpads
topreemptinfiltrationbyterrorists.
Indiahasprovidedfewdetailsoftheoperationbutsourcesindicatethatthesurgical
strikesconsistedofaheliborneunitandSpecialForcesthatinfiltratedtheLoCand
conductedassaultsonsevensuspectedterroristlaunchpadsthatweretwotothreekm
beyondtheLoC.
ThroughoutthedayPakistanhascontinuedtodenyanysurgicalstriketookplace.There
hasbeennosurgicalstrikebyIndia,insteadtherehadbeencrossborderfireinitiatedand
conductedbyIndiawhichisexistentialphenomenon,thePakistanArmysaidina
statement.
AsurgicalstrikeoperationbyIndianforcesbegsthequestionofwhetherIndianforces
havethecapabilitytolaunchsuchasophisticatedandcoordinatedattack.
capabilitytoconductcounterterroroperations,whilemuchofitsforcesarestillorganized
andtrainedonColdWarmodels.
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andRostumIIjustbegantesttrialsthissummer.Indiasdronedevelopmentprogramis
stillinitsinfancy.
However,developmentandproductionoftheartillerysystemisnotslatedtobeginuntil
2018.
guidedmissile(ATGM)Hellfire,whichhasfrequentlybeenusedfortargetingoperations
byU.S.forces.IndiaiscurrentlyproducingadomesticATGMcalledtheHelina,a
exceedinglydifficultasPakistanboastsanincrediblyimpressiveairdefensesystem.
PakistancontrolledKashmirisahighthreatareaforshoulderfiredsurfacetoairmissiles,
someofwhichhavefoundtheirwayintothehandsofmilitantgroups.Anyairoperation
overtheterritorywouldbeunderthreatfromtheseweaponsystems.
IndiahasreleasedlittledetailontheoperationhoweverifIndiainfactcarriedoutacross
bordersurgicalstrikeonterroristfacilitiesandnotPakistanimilitaryposts,itwouldbea
paradigmshiftinIndiaswaragainstterroristandmilitantorganizations.Itwouldalso
boasttheperceptionthatIndiasasymmetricalwarfarecapabilityisfurtheralongthan
manymayperceive
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SakthivelSingaravelan,Bornasahuman
WrittenOct4
AsyouawarethatIndiamadeasurgicalattackonPOK(PakistanOccupiedKashmir),but
thesesurgicalattackwashandledbyIndianArmywiththesupervisionLt.GenRanbir
Singh,PMandDefenseMinister.Thereasonforbelievinginsurgicalattacksareofficial
statementgivenbyLt.GenRanbirSingh.
Thevideofootagearedefinitelytakenandtheseareusedtomonitorthe4longhourof
operation.Hencethevideoandpicturesarehighlysensitiveandhighlyinformation
sensitive.Ourintelligenceteamwillscrutinizethevideoandpictureandreleaseiton
definitetime.
Allwehavetodoistobelieveinwhatofficialinformationcomingfromthesourceandwait
forthemtoreleasethefootage.Timewillsaytheanswer.AndIdobelievethatIndian
ArmySoldiersmadeourcountryproudagain.
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HanifHabib
WrittenSep30
No.OnlyIntheirdreamsorinthemovies.
Indiangovernmentistreatingtherealworldeventslikeamovieandarecelebratingtheir
selfinventedevents.Thisfabricationisforfacesaving.Justalocalpoliticalstunt.
Weshouldnotbesurprisedthathowcanamilitaryorgovernmentcantellalielouderand
publiclytosuchahighlevel
AmilitarythatcanclaimitsowncrashedaircraftasashotdownPAFaircraft.
AmilitarythatcanclaimtohavedonesurgicalstrikesinpastinsideBurmabutBurma's
govt.deniesanysuchthinghappening.
CanobviouslyclaimsimilarthingswithregardstoPakistan.
AndevenifwearetobelieveIndiansourcestheycameinside500mto3KM.AFAIKHeavy
AAgunsdeployedonLOChavesimilarrangessowhywouldanyonewanttocrossover
andriskliveswhensametargetcanbehitfromsecurityofyourownpost?
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TomeitappearstobeacaseofModi/IndianMilitarytryingtosatisfyitsownpublic&
savetheirimage.
AndbasedonIndian'sreactiononsocialmedia,thisseemstohaveworked.
http://defence.pk//failindiansputwreckageoftheirown/
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com//articles/48979296.cms
Forthereplyofsomeofthecommentsbyindians:
Thereasonyoudontbelieve14indiansoldiersarekilledisthesamereasonnottobelieve
thatindianarmyconductedsurgicalstrikes.Lackofproofandjustverbalstatements.
Nowanotherthingislogic.
1Whywouldindiarisklifeofitssoldiersandhumiliationforthetargetswhichare3km
ofrange.
2LOCisoneoftheworldmostmonitoredandarmedprotectedborder.Thatswhy
believingthatmilitantscomefrompakistansidetoattackindiansidelookslikeajokeand
toclaimthatindianarmycameonpakistaniside,KilledtensofpersonsincludingPakistan
militaryandwentbackwithouthavingasinglecasualityandinjuryistoogoodtobelieve.
3WhenUriorAbbotabadhappenedtherewerelotofwitnessesandevents.Thewhole
worldknewithappened.ButforSurgicalevenindianmediahavenoclueaboutthe
evidence.EventhestatementbyindianDGMOwasvague.
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UtkalTripathy
WrittenSep30
Everywarisbasedondeception,thesamethingappliestotherecentsurgicalstrikes.
PakistanverywellknowsthatIndiawillnotengageinanyactionswhichareoffensivebut
playsafebeingdefensive.
InitiallyourgovernmentgotinvolvedindiplomaticchannelsthroughIndusWater
treaty,MostfavouredNationandnotattendingtheSAARCsummitallthisleadtoPakistan
infocussingoftheirowndiplomaticchannelslikerecentlytheysenttheirdelegationin
ChinaaskingtheChineseregardingthelateststandoffbetweenthetwocountries.
SoPakistanisboughtthedeceptionwhilesurpriseisagainthebiggestelementinwarfare
andmilitaryoperations,thesamewasachievedbytheSpecialForces.
Thesuccessintermsofmilitaryoperationinvolveslogisticsupport,weapons,intelligence
andsheerwilltodestroytheenemywhichofcoursewasverywelldisplayedinthesurgical
strikes.
Operationstartsat0030hrs
TeamsarriveattheLOC
CrossfiringstartsbetweentheIndianpostsandPakistanipostsasdeception
TeamscrossLOC
TeamsreachtheirrespectiveOPs
Teamslaunchthesurpriseattacks
Eliminatesthetargets
Teamsreturnback0430hrswithoutascratch
Whileallotherdetailsoftheoperationremainclassifiedandshouldremainso.
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DeepakBakshi,Indiancitizen.Militaryfamilybackground.
WrittenOct6
PoK?
Nothing.
Wewereresponsibleforinformingaboutit.Wearenotresponsibleforprovingitto
anyone.Itdoesnotreallymakeadifferenceandanyonesacceptanceisnotgoingto
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benefitIndiaorthemselvesinanyway.
UNdiscreditedIndiasclaim?Whendidthathappen?AsfarasIremember,UNsnubbed
PakistanandconfirmedthatKashmirisnotbeingdiscussedintheUNgeneralassembly.
Moreover,weneverclaimedcarryingoutthesurgicalstrikesattheUNGA.Sowhereisthe
questionofUNcreditingordiscreditinganythingatall?
CNNandBBCcanexpressalldoubtstheywant.TheydoubtedtheAmericanmissionto
killOsamaaswell.ManystillclaimthatOsamawasneverfoundandkilledinPakistan.
Howdoesitchangeanything?ThefactisthatOsamaisnomore.Inthesameway,thefact
isthatwedestroyedseveralterroristcampsandweachievedwhatwewanted.CNNor
BBCsacceptancedoesnotreallychangeanything.
Gday
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SivaDas
WrittenOct2
WhenthearmychiefofaresponsiblenationlikeIndiadeclaresthatwehavelauncheda
surgicalstrike,thereisnoroomforanydiscussiontofurtherdissectitanddetermineifit
wasacrossborderoperationoraborderfiring.Itwasacrossborderoperation.Another
pointthatsubstantiatetheclaimhereisthatterrorlaunchpadscannotbecrushedby
smallarmsfireasitisnotintheirreach.
We'veseenenoughcrossborderinfiltrationcarriedoutbytheterroristsgroupandthey
havedoneitwitheasealltheseyears.NoIndianinstallationscouldmarktheminthedark
ofnight.Soit'sprettyclearthatinfiltrationisnotahimalayantaskasbelieved,provided
theperpetratorshavesoundtrainingonthesame.Thegeologicalimpedimentsandlength
oftheborderfacilitatessuchcrossingtoagoodextent.Now,whenaterroristinfiltrates
withease,itislaughabletonotethatonedoubtstheskillofIndia'shighlytrainedpara
commandostoinfiltrate.Further,IndiansurveillanceisfarmoresuperiortoPakand
commandoscouldcrosstheborderattheblinkofaneyewithheavyborderfiringto
engagethepakrangers.Also,unliketherangers,paraSF'sarehighlyefficientandprecise
ininvadingthetargetandwindinguptheoperationbeforetheopponentgetsspaceto
react.Accompaniedwithtechnologicalassistance,paraSF'Swillbecomemorelethala
weapontohandlewith.
Reportssaysthattheoperationwasfullyassistedwithhumanintelligence,communication
intelligence,GPSsystemsanddrones.Sotheprecisionoftargetwascalibratedveryclosely
toavoidanyfatalities.TheretaliatorycapacityofthepakarmyandPAFisamatterof
greathumor.TheseunfortunateforcesofPakistanhavefailedmanifoldtimesinthepast
tobothterroristsandUSforces.TheAbbottbadoperationisanexamplewheretheUS
armyseals,didn'tfallintheradarsofthissuperiorPakarmy.Bythetimetheywere
informedandmobilized,thesealswereofftheterritory.ThatmuchcapablethePakarmy
is.
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RamsundharMadhavan
WrittenOct2
WellthiscouldbeasimplemisunderstandingbetweenforcesontheLOC.Indiawould
haveneutralizedsometerrorist,whichaccordingtoIndianarmy,terrorlaunchpadswere
inthePakistanterritory.
Pakistanclaimsthatitwasfiringfromacrosstheborder.Pakistanarmywouldbe
considering,itasIndianterritory.
Itmeanstherecouldbehideoutforterrorists,whoworkalongtheLOC,whosmainaimis
todestabilizeIndianeconomybykindlingtensionacrossIndiaandPakistan.
IwouldbehappyifbothIndiaandPakistanforcesconductajointraidonthisareasand
engagetheterrorists.
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AbhinavVadrevu,Letcommonsenseprevail
WrittenOct5
Thinkingaboutit,don'treallythinkit'simportanttoestablishifasurgicalstrikehas
happenedornottheintendedeffects(SupportfromothernationssendingamsgtoPak
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onwhatwouldbetheirresponsetosuchstrikes,puttingPakandterrorgroupsonthe
defensive,moreimportantly,establishingthatthestrategyofdefensiveoffenceworks)are
alreadyevident.
Desireto'silence'Pakcomesfromourmasalamongeringmentality.Whatotherpurpose
doesthereleaseofevidencetopublicserve?
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SushantPawar
WrittenSep29
Yes.
Indiaactuallydidmakesurgicalstrikebeforeyesterday.
ItwasearlierthisyearwhenIndianarmy'sspecialforcesdiscreetlyenteredMyanmar
territoryandstrikedagainstinsurgentswhohadtheirbaseinMyanmaraftertheywere
drivenoutofIndia.
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VarunKhullar,ProudtobeIndianandIrespectmysovereignty
WrittenOct7
Asworldiseyeingontheindopakrelation,everycountryisconcernaboutPakistanfrantic
regimewhereasIndiaisconsideredareliableandcenteredcountrywhichdemandpeace,
thereisasayingyoucanmakeawisemanunderstandtheconsequencesbuttomakea
foolishandarrogantpersonunderstandtheimportanceofwisdomisbeatingaroundthe
bushes,sothecountriesaroundtheworldisseekinggreatimportancefromIndiaand
appreciatingIndiaforitswisdomandtactics.
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AmitKant
WrittenOct4
IfPakistaniproxiescaninfiltrateIndiansideofKashmiratwill,whycan'tIndians?Letme
explainyouthegroundsituation.
Pleaserememberthat,contrarytoimageryofBollywoodmovies,thefencingisonlyon
Indianside,andthatisalsoabout150minsidetheIndiansideofLoC/International
Border.Indianshavebuiltupfenceasafirstlineofdefenceagainstinfiltrationfrom
Pakistaniside.Thepicturesyouseeofsoldierspatrollingalongafencearealwaysof
Indiansoldiers,THEREISNOFENCEONPAKISTANISIDE,ASTHEYDONTNEEDA
FENCE.Mypointis,thatifIndiansoldiersopengatesoftheirfenceandgoontheother
sideofthefencetheyarestillonIndianside.AndthereisnoonetostopIndiansoldiers.
Pakistanipostsarethere,buttheycanbeevaded,liketheyevadeus.Becauseofthefence,
itismoredifficulttoinfiltrateintoIndia,thanitisforIndianstoinfiltrateintoPakistan.
Thegeography,theterrainissuchthatanybodycaninfiltratetoeitherside.Andourforces
wereprovidedcover.
IfBJPliesaboutIndianstrikesacrosstheborder,thensoonerorlater,theyliewillcome
out.ThereisnodearthofvigilantesandwhistleblowersinIndia.AndifBJPiscaught,they
won'treturninpowerforatleast2generationsi.e.about30years.
SowhyisPakistandenyingit?
Simply,becausetheydon'twanttoescalateit.
Whytheydon'twanttoescalateit?Simplybecausetheydon'taffordit.PakistaniArmyis
stretchedonmanyborders.ItisfightinginKPK,FATA,BalochistanandevenKarachi.12
divisionsarealsoemolyedinjustsafeguardingCPEC.CPECisonemattertheyare
focussedon.IfIndiaandPakistangoonawar,thenCPEC,whichhasapotentialto
becomebackboneoftheireconomymaysuffer.IndiamayoccupyGilgitBaltistan.India
maygo10yearsbehindineconomicdevelopmentbutPakistanwillgot30yearsbehind.
Indiahasaforeignreservesof$330billion,Indiacanwithstandawarof23weeks.
Pakistansforeignreservesare$20billion,andPakistanwon'tbeabletobeartheexpense.
ImagineifIndiaspends30billiondollarsonwar,Indiawillstillhave$300billionleft.In
response,ifPakistanspendseven$25billion,theywillbeinnegative.Armiesmarchon
theirbellies,itissaid.
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AbhishekYadav,GentlemancadetinIndianArmy
WrittenOct24
Alright,Icanseethatyouwantmetoanswerwithfactsandfigures.Now,sincethe
DGMOheldapressconferenceandinformedaboutthesurgicalstrike,therehasbeena
fussaboutit,thoughIcantunderstandwhy?.Whenyourarmysayssomething,yougot
tobelieveit,that'sit.Thosewhoarequestioningthissurgicalstrikeandareaskingforthe
videoproofsareeithertraitorsortheydon'tunderstandtheSofsurgicalstrike.Theyare
laughablemorethanannoying.
WhateverwastobeputInpublicdomain,DGMOhasalreadydonethat.Morethanthat
notevenabitofinformationwillberevealed,nomatterwhat.Pleaseunderstandthat
thereisareasonbehindeverythingthatyourmilitarydoes.
Myviewsonthisstrike:Ourbraveheartsdidagoodjob.Salutetothem.JaiHind
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PirSaien,Pakistanicitizen
WrittenOct7
Indiahasprovidednoevidenceofsurgicalstrike
Andtheworldisdenyingbeacuseinternationalmediahasvistedtheplaceswhereindia
claimsurgicalstriketherearenoevidenceofsurgicalstrikethere
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AkashKapoor,LawGraduate,CertifiedStrategicPlanner,Certified
FinancialPlanner
WrittenOct1
Thereisnodoubtnow.Allinferencescanbedrawnfromthreereactions.
1.PakistanidefenseministersaidthatIndiakilletwooftheresoldersinsmallarmsfire.
TheminimumdistancebetweenthepostsonLOCis600meters.Nosmallarmsfire
cankillwithoutgoingintotheLOC.
2.Hafisaeedhasadmittedthattherewerestrikes
3.ThereislargetroopsdeploymentfromPakistanisideonLOC
Seethis
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RakeshWagh,WatchingPakistanthroughIndia'seyes
WrittenOct15
IndiahasfoundagoodsolutiontoPakistansaggressiontowardsIndia:Attackinsucha
waythatyourenemywillbesoashamedthatitwilldigestthelossesandevendenythe
attacks.ItisawinwinforIndia.Letthegamecontinue!
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SodearpeopleofPakistan,pleasecontinuetobelieveyourgovernmentsclaimthatthe
strikeneverhappened,andwewillcontinuetobelieveourgovernmentsclaimthatthe
strikedidhappen.Inthemeantime,Pakistancontinuestolooseitsfaceabroad,and
continuetoachieveitsobjective.
Ifeelpityforthebrainwashedterroristswholoosetheirfacelesslivesforall
inappropriatereasons.
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JollySingh,Futureengineer
WrittenOct3
Indiaismaturenationandneverclaimedanythingwithoutproof.Todaytherewasattack
onbsfbaseinBaramula.
Itwaskasmirimilitantsbehindthisevildeed.Indiacouldhaveblamedpakistanfor
defamingbutclearlyindiadeclareditwaskasmirimilitans.
Meanwhileindiansaresuperiortopakistanizintermsofbrains.Modicannotfool1.40
billionindianoriginpeopleinworld.Therewasstrikeandindiaclaimedthat.
IsIshouldstartproductionhouse.Theyareexpertinmakingfalsevideoz.
1.kulbhusanyadavvideoeven6yearoldkidwilltellvideoisalteredandlipmovement
donotmatch.
2.killingof15indiansoldiereven2yearinfantwilljudgethatthisvideoisfalseqouted
causeafterbombblasttreeisintactandindiansoldierfallonground.Butinrealityafter
bombattackmanzbodyisdividedintomillionfragmentsandtreezareuprooted.
GoodluckISImayfavadkhanwilltakeiSIproductionhouseonskyheight.
raheelsharifshouldopensweetshopcauseafterretirementhispensionwillbe
stoped.\U0001f602\U0001f601\U0001f601
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UtkarshChachad,Movieaddict,Scienceenthusiast,Freethinker
WrittenSep30
WhenyouhavetheMEA&theDefenceMinistryofIndiaannouncepubliclytotheworld
(&toitsenemynation)thattheyhaveconductedsurgicalstrikesonforeignterritoryto
dismantleterroristcamps,thereislittleroomfordoubt.
TheIndianGovtisnotstupidtopullahoaxlikethis.Besides,Iamsurepeoplefromthe
armedforcescanprovetheydidinfactperformthesurgicalstrike.
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Anonymous
WrittenOct7
ArgumentsfromIndianswhooverwhelmingthinkthatthestrikesdidhappen:
1.Indiadoeshavethecapabilitytocarryoutthesurgicalstrikes.
2.PakistanhasliedrepeatedlyinthepastsoPakistanmustbelyingnow.
3.ProvidedetailsofthesurgicalstrikesbasedonmediareportsandclaimsbytheIndian
GovernmentandMilitary.
4.ThereissomuchangerinIndiaafterUrithatIndiaGovernmenthadnooptionbutto
carryoutthestrikes.
ArgumentsfromPakistaniswhooverwhelmingthinkthestrikesdidnothappen:
1.BurdenonproofisonIndiaandthereisnoconclusiveproof.
2.IndianGovernmentfabricatedallthistosaveface.
3.IndianGovernmentdidittodivertattentionawayfromtheiratrocitiesinKashmir.
4.IndianGovernmenthasnotprovidedanyspecificdetails.
Firsteachsidemustrealizethatthepoliticiansinchargeofeachcountryarenoangels.
Theyhavenoshameinlyingininternalmatters.Fortheirowninterests,theywont
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hesitatetocommitinjusticetotheirownpeople.EventhepeoplewhohavevotedforModi
orNawazSharifknowthesefacts.Andthepeopleineachcountrywhohavenotvotedfor
them,considertheseleaderscrooksandnotworthyleaders.
Butwhenitcomestothemattersofdealingwiththeothercountry,wethinkthatour
leadersturnintoangels.Theywillnotdoaniotaofwrongtotheothercountry.Everything
thattheyaretellingisthetruth.
PakistanhasneverallowedanyterroriststooperateagainstIndia.EventhoughPakistanis
sponsoringterroriststodestabilizeIndia,IndianGovernmentissoinnocentandloves
PakistansomuchthatithasnevertriedtocreateanytroubleinsidePakistan.
Thisissimplyacaseofpatriotismandnationalityovershadowingobjectivityandlogic.
SoIbelievethattherealityofsurgicalstrikesissomethinginbetweenwhateachsideis
claiming.ItismorethanjustfiringacrossLOCasPakistanisclaiming.Indiansoldiersdid
goacrossborders.ButtheydidnotmuchofwhattheIndianGovernmentisclaiming.No
terroristcampsweredestroyedandprobablynoterroristskilled.Remember,these
terroristsdontfearfortheirlives.FourofthemkilledandinjureddozensofIndian
soldiersintheirownbase.ItissimplyimpossibleforIndiansoldierstodothatmuch
damagetothehardcoreterroristsandcomebackunharmed.
Regardless,unlessIndiangovernmentreleasesthevideoofsurgicalstrikes,noneutral
personwillbelievethatitactuallyhappened.Andevenifthesurgicalstrikesdidhappen
exactlyasIndianGovernmentisclaiming,itwilljustdragbothcountriesawayfromany
viable,longtermsolutiontotheissues.
Letsalsoseewhathashappenedsofar:
Uri:
India:Pakistanhitme
Pakistan:No,Ididnot
India:Yes,youdid
Pakistan:No,Ididnot
Surgicalstrikes:
India:IhitPakistan
Pakistan:No,youdidnot
India:Yes,Idid
Pakistan:No,youdidnot
Fromaneutralperspective:Whoislookingtoescalatethings?
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MohitBidhu
WrittenOct10
Thebestproofishistory.Pakistaniarmyhadliedfrombeginning.Pakistanarmyalways
claimedthattheydidn'tinitiatedandloseanywar.TheyrefusedoperationGibraltar(cause
of65war),theyaresuchshamelessthattheyevencelebratedefenseday,whichisalie.In
71war3daysaftersurrenderingtherewasnewsinnewspapersthatPakistanarmyis
givinggoodfighttoIndia(wholiestopeopleofnationlikethis,onlyPakistan.Theyrefused
theyrapedandmurderedbengalis.Theyrefused93000soldierssurrenderedin71.During
thekargilwartheyclaimedpeoplewhotookoverIndianpostsarenotPakistanisarmy's
soldiers(wholeworldknowsthetruththatwhowerethey).Thentheyrefusedtotakedead
bodiesoftheirownsoldiers(howpathetic,whatabouttheirfamilies).InPakistanitwas
declaredbyarmythatIndiaattackedPakistanspostsmeaningtheystartedwarandabove
alllieswasthattheywonkargilwar.LOL.InPakistanwronghistoryistaughtinschools
includinghatetowardsHindus.
PakistanarmyliedthatOsamawasnotinPakistan,whenOsamawaskilleditwassaid
thatthisisafabricatedstory,eventodaymanyPakistanibelievethatOsamastoryislie.
Pakistanrefusedtheyhaveanylinktohaqqaninetwork.Pakistaniarmyrefusedtheyhave
anylinkwithMumbaiattacksincludingallotherattacksevenafterDavidhardly's
testimony.Theyusetosaytheyhavenolinkwithhafizsaeedwhonowopenlyappearson
newschannels.RecentlyUNconfirmeddaud'sasyluminPakistanbutPakistanclearly
refused.OntheotherhandwehaveIndianarmywhichhavenohistoryoflying.Indialost
62warwithChinaandadmittedinreturntheybeatChinesearmyinsikkimwar.No
matterwhatproofIndiagivePakistanwillneveraccept.JustadayafterstrikesbyIndia
fewvideoswerebroadcastedonpakinewschannelsshowingbombingandkillingsof
Indiansoldiersonborderposts.AndreporterwasindilemmawhyIndiansdidn'treported
thesedeaths(howcouldwereportsomethingthatdidn'thappen).Ithappensonlyin
Pakistan.Twovideosamongthemwererealbutunfortunatelythosevideoswereold(2012
and2013).FewdaysbacktheirwasnewsinPakistanmediathatIndianarmyismaking
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videosnearLOC.Lol.IguesstheywerepreparingPakistanisforanotherlie,ifIndia
revealedstrikesvideos.Sowhowouldyoubelievehabitualliarsordignifiedandbrave.One
morethingaccordingtoChristinefair,losingfromIndiaisnotdefeatforPakistanbut
admittingtheyloseis.
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AmberTyagi
WrittenOct4
YES,MediainPakistanhasbeenquotinganarticleinTheDiplomatbyShawnSnowwho
isaMARSOCveteranandmayknowthenuancesofmilitarybetterthanyouandme
assumingthatwearebothciviliansandtheunsecretarygeneralsspokespersonsaccount
fromUNMOGIP.Butatthesametimethemajorissueraisedbytheformerhasbeenon
intelligencecollectionmethodandtheweaponryusedandnodirectlyobservedactionby
thelatter
1.USAdespiteitsstatusasasuperpowerhastorelyonlocalpopulaceastheirintelligence
gatherersanditwasthelureofthedollarswhichultimatelyleadtotheAbbottabad
operation.PeoplefromthePokmaynotexactlybeproIndiaatthemomentforvarious
reasonsbutthefactthattheatrocitiesofthePakistanarmyhasalreadyreacheditsboiling
pointservesasanimpetusformanytoactasforcemultipliersforIndia.
2.ShawnSnowraisesdoubtsoverthemunitionusedbysuggestingHelina(stillintesting
phase)astheonlyweaponcapableofraisinghavocoftheproportionsuggestedandthisis
wherehisassessmentgoesawry,Indianforceshaddismissedthisveryearlyonthat
helicoptermountedmissileshadbeenused.Indianforcesproceededonfootandcarried
outthestrike
3.ThestatementmadebyUNMOGIPneedstobetakenwithapinchofsalt,Myfather,asa
partofUNMOGIPin2002,hadbeenIndianArmysliaisonofficerandtheofficialstance
byIndianArmypostSimlaagreementneedstobeexaminedtobetterunderstandthe
issue,UNMOGIPhasnolocusstandiinthematterandformanyyearshasbeenkeptasa
matterofconventionbyboththearmiesinordertogetaneutralassessment,Thewording
chosenhadbeenDirectlyobservedandassumingthattheintelligenceonwhichIndia
actedhadbeenasrocksolidasinsinuatedbytheDGMOitcanalsobeassumedthatthese
terrorcampswerenotindirectobservationoftheUNMOGIPastheyhavebeenselectively
placedandthefactthatPakistanmaintainsterrorcampshasalsobeenconfirmedbythe
FBIandDIA(US)FBIidentifiesterrorcampinPakistanthroughsatellitepictures|Latest
News&UpdatesatDailyNews&Analysis .
AsperBBCnewsstatementAsweweregettingreadytobetakentothesecondlocation,
oneoftheseniorofficersaccompanyingussaidthathadtherebeenasurgicalstrikeas
Indiaclaimstherewouldhavebeenmanymoredeadbodiesandalotmoredamage.The
areaseemedintact,butifthereweremoredeadbodieswewouldhavenowayofknowing.
Weonlysawwhatwewereshown,thelastlinehasaspecialsignificancetakinginto
accountthefactthattheyweretakentothesite2daysafterthestrike.
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KulveerSingh,Indianatheart.Oldschoolmiddleofpath.Neither'right'
nor'left'
WrittenSep30
Pakistan?
WeknowbyanalysingtheresponseofthePakistanisduringtheKargilWar.
DuringtheKargilWar,SartajAziz,whowastheForeignMinisterofPakistanthencameto
DelhiandclaimedthatthepeopleonthemountaintopswereallAfghans.Pakistanarmy
hadnoroleinit.NowweknowafterMusharrafsownconfessionthattheinfiltratorswere
regularsoldiersofPakistansNorthernLightInfantry.
Pakistanhasahabitofdenying.TheydeniedKargil,theydeniedtheatrocitiesin
Bangladeshearlier,theydenied26/11theyevennowdenyOsamascapturefromPakistan,
theydeniedUriandtheynowdenythesurgicalstrikes.
Wethusknowtheanswer,acountrypathologicallyindenial,proventohavesaidlies
hundredsoftimes,cantbetrustedtosaythetruth.
Indianstatementshavehowever,alwaysstoodthetestoftime,andtilldate,Idont
rememberasinglestatementoftheIndianExternalAffairsMinistryorDefenceMinistry
thathasbeendecisivelyproventobewrong.
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PrabuddhaGhosh
WrittenOct14
DoesntreallymatterwhetherIndiaactuallydidthesurgicalstrikesornot.
WhatswaymoreimportantisthatIndiaannouncedthemandtheworkdsupportedIndia.
EvenIsraeldoesnotdareannounceitscrossborderstrikesinSyriatillveryrecently(when
theSyriangovtistotallymessedupandnoplacetoretaliate).
AndPakistandidnothing.
Thishaschangedthepowerequation.NexttimeIndiafeelsithassometargetsworth
goingafterIndiawillgoaftertheminPakistanandnoonewillblink.Thishasnormalized
theerosionofPakistanisoverreigntyjustlikenooneblinkswhenUSADronesdoastrikein
Pakistan.ThisisprettymuchtheendofinsurgencyinKashmirasforInsurgencytosurvive
youneedbothlocalsupportandsafebaseareaswhichareoutsidethereachofthenation
againstwhichtheinsurgencyisfighting.Thesafebaseareasnolongerexist.Nohuman
canoperateinasituationofdangercontinuouslysoiftheinsurgentsinKashmirhaveno
placetogoandrelaxandrecuperatesoontheywillbeburntoutanddomistakes(andget
arrested)orsurrender.
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NirbhayAugustin,Analyst,TruthSeeker,Lover
WrittenOct4
PleasedonotexpecttransparencyfromPakistanMedia.Therearenumerousexamples
peoplehavealreadypostedlikeOBL,Kargilwaretc.ButIwouldliketotakeyoutoyear
1971IndiaPakistanWar.
Readbelowexcerptfromthebook'Pakistan:BetweenMosqueandMilitary'byHussain
HaqqanianddecidehowmuchyouwouldliketobelieveinPakistaniversionoftruth.:)
ThePakistanipeoplewerenotmentallypreparedtoacceptdefeat,asthestatecontrolled
mediainWestPakistanhadbeenprojectingimaginaryvictories.Whenthesurrenderin
EastPakistanwasfinallyannounced,peoplecouldnotcometotermswiththemagnitude
ofdefeat,spontaneousdemonstrationsandmassprotestseruptedonthestreetsofmajor
citiesinWestPakistan.Also,referringtotheremainingrumpWesternPakistanassimply
"Pakistan"addedtotheeffectofthedefeatasinternationalacceptanceofthesecessionof
theeasternhalfofthecountryanditscreationastheindependentstateofBangladesh
developedandwasgivenmorecredence.ThelossofEastPakistanshatteredtheprestigeof
thePakistanimilitary.
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PrakashThorat
WrittenOct3
OriginallyAnswered:HasIndiaprovidedanyproofofthesurgicalstrike?
TheproofthatIndiaattackedPakistanhasbeenprovidedbyPakistanitself.
Theyshiftedtheirbunkersfurtherinside,farawayfromtheLineofcontrol.
HafizSayyedhasthreatenedIndiatoteachwhatactuallywillbesurgicalattacks.
HehassaidthatPakistanArmywilltakerevenge.
HehasthreatenedIndianTVchannelforshowingtruth.
PakistanhasbannedaeroplaneflyingaboveGilgitandSkardu.Nowextendedto
Lahore.
BroughtUnitedNationsobserverstoshownothinghasbeenattacked.
RefusingtoreleaseIndiansoldierswhostrayedintheirterritory.Pakistanistreating
himasprisonersofwarcapturedfromattackingraidingsquad.
RushingtoChinaforwithholdingriverBrahmaputrariverwater.
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JarnailSinghGill
WrittenOct9
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AnyEvidenceGivenbyIndianmediaorIndianOfficialswillbedoubtedbyPakistani
peoplesoletmeparaphrasetheevidencebroadcastedbyPakistaniMediaorPakistani
peoplethemselves:
1.AdayortwoafterSurgicalStrikes,HafizSaaeedwasseenaddressingagatheringon
stageandthreatingthattheywilltakerevengeforsurgicalstrikes.Therewasacloth
posteronstagewhichreadsomethinglikeCondolencestothemartyers.Whowere
thesemartyers?Dontjumpandsaythattheposterwasreferingto02soldierskilled
incrossborderfire.HafizSaeedisnotknowntodisplaysuchpostersforsoldiers
killedincrossborderfiring.Crossborderfiringisaroutinematter.Hereisthelink:
1.PakistaniDefenseexpertAyeshaSiddiquewhoisaresearchscholar,confirmedthat
shevisitedDhoodhniyalarea,madeenquiriesandfoundoutthatsurgicalstrikesdid
happen.Dhoodhniyalwasjustoneof07areastargettedbyIndianCommandos.Here
isthelink:
1.SPofMirpurinPoKwascalledbyajournalistactingasIGMushtaq.Underthe
impressionthathewastalkingtohisseniorofficer,SPofMirpurconfirmedthat
surgicalstrikesdidtakeplace.Afterthat,Pakistaniarmyhurridlycollectedallthe
bodies,didthecleanupactanddeclaredthatnosurgicalstrikeshappened.Hereis
thelink:
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Now,forthepeoplewhoaskwhyIndianarmydontsharethevideoandphotographic
evidence:Ifwewanttodomoresuchstrikesinfuture,wedontwanttorevealhowwedid
it,fromwhereandhowwecrossedtheborder,howmanycommandoswereinvolved,what
armsweuseandhowwereturnbacksafely.
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SameerSMore,Avidreaderofhistory,internationalrelations,politics
,engineerbyprofession
WrittenOct21
Pakistanhashadahistoryofdeniability..Ifitacknowledgesaboutthestrikes..theywould
havetoretaliate&sincetheyareincapableofretaliatingduetoscatteredweakenedforces
,theyaredenying&makingupstories&falseevidences,platingstoriesintheirprint
media.(theirnonresidentPakistanicolumnistsinUS..UKmediaincluded)Ontopofthat
Pakistanwillbeembarrassedwhenitgetsexposedthatitharbouredterroristsintheirown
backyardwithfullmilitaryprotection
SpeakingofthestrikesOurArmyhasconductedcrossborderraidsinthepast.Butthis
timethescaleoftheoperationwasunprecedented..withacommandcentreinNewDelhi
unlikethelocalizedcommandinJ&KTosummarizebriefly..whatwasdonewasastrike
acrosstheLOConthearcof250kmat7or8locationssimultaneouslyapproximately
inside4,5kmsinPOK..withprobablyhelidropping&tacticalartilleryfiringtoengagethe
enemyintoadifferentsector,therebyusingadiversionarytactictoinfiltrateourPara
Commandosforasurgicalsabotage&quickexfiltrationoperation..ofcoursetheopsdetails
suchasweaponeryused,theentryexitpoints..tacticaldetails..exactlocationsarestrictly
ontheneedtoknowbasis.Divulginganythingatthisjunctureonapublicplatformby
thegovt.canseriouslysabotageourcapabilitiesofdoingsuchstrikesinfutureiftheneed
be..&willgettheenemypreparedIdeallywemustkeepourenemyguessing&trustthe
DGMOIndianArmy
FollowingarethesignsthattheSurgicalstrikesdidtakeplace
1)DefenceAnalystsonIndianchannelsclosetogovt.sourcesclaimingatleast200terrorists
werekilledacross7terrorlaunchpads&fewPakistanisoldiers,trainingpersonnel..Pak
rangers
2)Nawaztakingflurryofmeetingswiththeirchiefofstaffs
3)PakistanfederalassemblypassinganunanimousresolutioncondemningIndia'sso
called"aggression"
4)Pakistanidefenceministerquoting"IfIndiastrikesagainwewillnukeIndia"
5)AirspaceonLahore&Karachirestricted,barringlowflyingaircraftsfromIndiainfear
ofIAFplanesorties
6)PAFF16sscrambledoverIslamabadconductingexercisesfewdaysago
7)TroopmovementsonPakistanisideoftheIB,LOC,especiallymechanisedinfantry
8)Pakarmyleavescancelled
9)MeekresponseofthePakistaniartillery&mortergunsafterIndianhighcalibreartillery
firing,especiallyafterfoilingBaramullahinfiltrationattempt
10)PakistaniterroristhotheadsmakingaggressivestatementsagainstIndia
11)RattledPakArmyclearingtheoperationareain4days&takingtheUNofficials&
internationalmediaatasameordifferentlocationtoprovehardthatthestrikesdidnot
happen
12)Randomoldvideosofbombingofmilitantsinarmyfatiguesispassedonasanattack
onIndianArmypatrolparty..
13)OldpicturesofterroristsdeadinarmyfatiguesispassedonaspartofISI
propaganda.......................................................................................
14)Confused&varyingcommentsofPakistaniofficials,politicians&thearmychief....Pak
ArmychiefdenyingstrikeswhileNawazcondemningIndiannakedaggression&then
retractingthecomment
15)Seriesoftweets&retractmentofthesameontheirISPRtweeterhandle
16)Nawaz'sseriesofcallstoUncleSam
17)CallsfromSusanRice&JohnKerrytoSushmaSwarajaskingIndianottoescalate
thingsanyfurther....(Thisisthebiggestindicator)
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18)IndianMEAforeignsecretarybriefingenvoysofP5nations&other17influential
nationsaboutthestrikes.
19)IAFconductingsortiesonwesternborderswithsurveillancedrones..NTROmonitoring
satellitesurveillanceoftheOperationarea.
20)MeetingsofourNSA,Chefsofstaffs&PMwithsubsequentbattlereadinessofall3
staffs
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HarishRamaiah
WrittenOct3
Firstandforemostnoquorausercananswerthisquestionsopleasedonotwasteyour
timereadingtheanswers.StrikesweredoneatPOKasclaimedandnotonPakistanso
pleasecorrectthequestion.
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AyanKumar,ReadabouteverywarofPakandIndiaandknows
Pakistan'sattitudeandnature.
WrittenOct2
YEStheIndianARMYactuallycarriedoutthesurgicalstrikeinPoK.Pakistanisnot
admittingoutbecausetheyweresittingducksanddidntknowshitwhenoursuperpara
commandoswentthereandattacked5launchpadsandkilledmanyterrorists(4050).
EventhoughPakistanwasinformeditcouldntdoshit.Andpakistanisnotadmittingit
becauseitisadisgraceforthemthatTHEINDIANSOLDIERScrossedLOCandcarried
theattacks.IfyoudontbelieveitthenwatchthevideoofHafizSaeedsspeechthatthey
willtakerevengeforthesurgicalstrikesbyIndiaandwewillbereadyforthemandgive
themhell.MoreoverPakistanwasseenevacuatingtheterroristsfromthelaunchpadsnear
theLoCincaseofmoresurgicalstrikes.Thiswholeincidentwasobservedbythe
government.ThecommandoswereparadroppedinPoKatmidnightandwentaround2
5kmdeepandcamebackbeforesunrisewithoutanycasualty.MoreoverPakistansclaim
thatitkilled14IndiansoldiersinacrossfireatLoCandIndiaisnotrecoveringthebodies
ofthesoldiersistotalscrapbecausenothingsuchasthathappenedandifitHAD
happenedIndiawouldneverdenyitandrecoverthebodiesasIndiaisnotlikethe
shamelessPakistanthatrefusedtoacceptthebodiesofitssoldiersduringtheKargilWar
inwhichIndiakickedPakistansass.
ProudtobeanIndianandproudofITSAWESOMEANDBRAVEDEFENCEFORCES
ANDTHESOLDIERS.
JAIHIND
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MohitSheel
WrittenOct2
Yes,theydid,andwhypakistanwillacceptit..icangivereasonsthatwhypakisatanis
notacceptingit.
1.Iftheyaccept,theywillalsoacceptthatyes,wehaveterrorcampsintheircountry,
whichtheydenyallthetimesbutwholeworldknows.
2.iftheyaccept,itwillbeasevereblowtotheimageoftheirfamousArmychiefwho
alwaystalkthatPakisatnarmyisinvincibleandall.
3.iftheyaccept,theirpeopleswillstartaskingquestionstothemabouttheir
preparedness,andforcethemtoretaliate.
4.andtheirisahistoryofpakistanileadershiptospreadfalseinfototheirpeople,in
1971deccafallson16thdecember,butpaksistaniestablishmentspreadnewsthatthey
areincontroltill19thdecember,inkargiltheyinitiallysaidthattherearemujahidsin
thepeakbutinlasttheywherethesoldiersoftheNLI,pakistanevengavenishane
haidertotheirsoldiers,thentheyfooltheentireworldthatOsamaisnotlivingin
theircountrybutatlastamericankilledhiminpakistan.theyarestilldifferentiating
terrorists.
5.Pakistanipeoplesbelievethattheirarmyisinvincible,howlaughable,theirarmy
couldtabletoprotectitscountrytobreak,anarmywhichstartedwarbutneverwon
asinglewon,acountrywhichcannotinterceptamericanhelicopterswhichenteres
deepintotheirterritoryandkilledOBL.
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However,Indianeversaidpakistantoacceptit.andforwhomwhoisaskingforproof,
cantheygavemethedetailsofanyraidsofthisconductedbyanynation.thosewhoare
askingaremakingthemselvesfool,nocountrygivesprooflikethis..doespaksiatngave
proofthatwherethedeadbodiesoftheterrorsistskilledinopzarbeazb,whichtheyclaim
3500pluskilling,orameciansgavethevideosofphotosoftheOBLoperation,ifDGMO
issayingyeswedid,thismeansyestheydid.itsuptopakistanwhethertheyacceptitor
not.afteralliftheydotheirarmywillseverelyexposed,
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Amish
WrittenOct3
ThelatestdevelopmentsIobservedregardingthepakistan'sreactionisveryinteresting.It
issaidthattohideonelieyouhavetotella100lies.ThatiswhatPakmediaistryingtodo
indenyingthatsurgicalstrikeshappenbuttheyfailedtodosoasthesourcetheyusedto
supporttheirfirstlieitselfisaliewhichIamgoingtoproveit.
AnarticleinPakmediasaysModihimselfdeniesSurgicalstrikesisbasedononesuchlies.
Thelinkyoucanreferto.
NarendraModieatshisownwords,denies'SurgicalStrikes'PakistanDunyaNews
InthisarticletheysayModisaidIndianeverattackedanyothercountryinpastnoritis
hungryforlandgrabbingofothercountrieswhichmeansModideniessurgicalstrike.But
whenyouhearthespeechbyModionInaugurationofPravasiYojanahewasreferringto
worldwar1and2aboutthesacrificesIndiamadewhichwasfabricatedbyPakmediato
saythathedeniessurgicalattacks.Soinordertosupporttheirlietheybuiltupanotherlie
ontopofthatbyfabricatingthespeechtoservetheirNapakpurpose.In the11thminute
ModisaysaboutIndiainwhichhementionsIndianeverattackedanycountry.Ishare
withyouthevideolinkaswell.Soseethedenialmodeandforthatdenialseetheliesafter
liesafterliesbyPakmedia.JaiHind.
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SandeepRao,Strategy
WrittenOct4
Pakistan?
Weknowthatthesurgicalstrikesweresuccessfulbecause,internationalmedia(cnn,bbc,
aljazeera,etc..)busloadsofthemthatwerebroughttobeshownaroundcouldnotfind
anyjihadisattheplacestheyvisited.Jihadishadbeenwipedcleanfromthoseplaces.
Whattheysawwaswelldressedmilitarymen,sayingnothinghappenedtothem.Butthe
surgicalstrikesweremeanttoeliminateJihadis.Hadtheinternationalmediadocumented
Jihadisatthoseplacesorinterviewedthem,itwouldhavebeenadifferentmatter.They
couldnotevenfindone,justonejihadiafterallthattrip
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Anonymous
UpdatedOct9
misinformation?
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See,itisamatteroftrust,onoursoldiersandthentheIndiangovernment,andthenour
media,becausePakistanwillneveracceptitasthenitwillbeaccusedinternationallyfor
givingprotectionandtrainingtoterrorists.AnditisveryobviousthattheIndiangovt.Is
nevergoingtotellthenamesofthecommandosinvolvedbecauseofsecurityreasons,
yesterdayonlywegottoknowthatavideohasalsobeenmadeoftheoperation,sothe
Indiangovt.mightreleasethatvideo,butstilltherewillbepeopleandsomemediahouses
whowillsaythatthevideoisfake.
Soletsacceptthatoursoldiershavedonesuchanoperationandweshouldbeproudof
that.Idontunderstand,whysomepeoplearequestioningourforcespreparednesstodo
suchanoperation?Wehavedoneitbeforealso(inMyanmar).
P.S.Todays(09thoct,2016),THEHINDU,newspaperclaimsthatIndiansoldiershave
donesurgicalstrikesbeforealsoi.e.in2011andthenin2013,underOperationGinger,
whichdidntcameinpublicdomain.
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RamendraKumar,FollowedInternationalrelations
WrittenOct4
ThestrikesaregenuineandwehavenoshredofevidenceNotToBelieveInIndianArmy.
YouhavelistedwhatIndiangovernmentwillgainNowletmetellyouwhatPakistan
armyanditscivilgovernmentwillloose.
ThefirstandtheobviouspointistheTerrorlaunchpads.Pakistanneveradmittedthat
theyprovidesheltertotheseterroristswhetheritsKasaborKargil.Iftheyadmitthat
theywillprovetotheworldtheyareaterroriststatewhichTheyare.
NowthesecondpointisThearmyAlthoughincompetent,theygetimmencesupport
fromthelargeportionofthepopulation.Theydontwanttocreateasituationwherethey
havetorunagainforfacesaving.
InPakistan,weallknowTheRighthandisunawareofwhattheLefthandisupto.So
evenifyoupeopletrytosaynow,therearenostikeswewilllistenthesewordsfromyour
Generalsmouthinthecomingyears.WeasIndiansnowunderstandthisMaybethe
worlddoesnot,butwehaveseenenoughofpakistansbullshitwhetheritsinMumbai,
Kandhar,Kargil.
NowwhyIndiangovernmentisholdingitssurgicalstrikevideoiftheyhave??Theanswer
istheobviousonesThesearenotSextapeorsaysomemediasstingoperationthatshould
beshowninTVstudiosforTRPs.Thesearestikesofstrategicimportanceanditisunfair
foranyarmytoshowthesetocommoncivilians.ForgetIndia,therearesomanyfilesand
videosevenintheNepalgovernmentsofficewhichtheywillnevershowtoany
civilians.IndianArmyhasitsruleandMakenomistakesincomparingPakistansArmy
withthemweallwilldielaughingincasesomeonedoes.
Secondlyincasearmydoesthesame,Samevideowillbesharedinternationallyby
PakistansISItoshowtotheworldhowIndianarmyhavekilledinnocentcivillians
(eventhoughtheyareterrorists).Sonowthequestionisdamnedifyoudodamnedifyou
dont.
Waitforsomewhile,thesevideoswillbemadepubliconcerelationsgoestonormaltothe
pointwhenthesestrikesarenotnecessary.Tillthenhavepatienceandbeliveinyour
PakistanArmy#lol
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MaheshJareda,ReaderoftheHindunewspaper
WrittenSep30
LetsAnalysesPossibility
1.itmaybetruethatindiahasconductedsurgicalstrikeearlierbut.theydontdo
publicitytoit..
2.itmaydeteriorateindiapakrelationshipfurther.
3.ifsuchthingshadhappenedearlier.Pakisatancouldnothavesalienttothisextent
thatitdidntspeakup.
whoknows..onlyindiangovernment,ArmyandpakistaniArmytoo.Iamnotsure.
ithinksuchtypeofsurgicalstrikeindiadidfirsttime
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AnuragKumar,engineeringphysics@IITR
WrittenOct8
mayormaynotbe!ihavemyownreason!
first,whyidontthinkINDIAdidNOTconducetdastrikeanditsjustafalseclaimcause
ofbelovedPMwhojustsayandnotact,whojustpromiseandnotkeephispromises.
Honsetlyidonthave.0000001%oncurrentgovt,aperson/partywhocankillpeoplein
massmanytimescanobviouslyandeasilyclaimthestrike.
anditcanbetrue,causeourarmyisbraveenoughtokicktheassesofterroristhiding
anywherearoundtheworld
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ShailendraThakur,ExNavyAssociate
WrittenOct5
YesitdidhappenasIndianArmycannotgivesuchaboldstatementatinternationallevel.
WhytheArmyandtheBJPgovtisagainstshowingtheproofsofthesurgicalstrikesinside
POKintheformofthevideofootage?
Thefollowingarethereasons:
1.ItwillaffectcountriessecurityandalsoArmysfuturestrategytorepeatsuchattacksin
POK.
2.TheenemyisveryeagertoknowwhichpathdidtheArmytakeinsidePOK?Didthey
usethechoppers?Didtheyusethestealthtechnologyonchopperstosilencetherotor
noises?Ifthechopperswentinwhycouldn'tthePakiradarstracethem?
3.Didtheyuseanyspecializedequipmenttofindtheirwaytotheterroristlaunching
pads?Howtheycommunicatedwitheachother?Whowasdefendingtheattackteamson
theflankandintherear?
4.ThePakiviewercanseetheterraininthefootageandfindoutwhichareatheIndian
armyusedtoenterPOKandexitit.
5.Whichweaponswereusedbythecommandos?howwastheresponseoftheterroriststo
themonthelaunchingpad?Weretheycaughtbysurprise?...ifsohowmuchdamagewas
causedbythemtotheIndiancommandos?
6.ThePakiarmyguardingtheterroristshowasitneutralized?...didtheyputany
resistanceordidtheyflee?
7.Fromhowmanypointswastheattacklaunched?
8.HowmuchtimeweretheIndiancommandosloiteringonthepadsaftertheattackand
whatdidtheycollect?Whattimedidtheyleave?
9.Howmanycommandoswerethereineachteam?
10.Didtheyuseanydronesforrecce?
11.WhatkindofsupportwasgiventothembyinternalelementsinPOKinthisattack?
12.Wasthereauseofheavyfirepower?Ifsowhatwastheeffectofitontheterrorists.?
AllthesefactsandmanymoresuchobservationswillhelpPakiISItojudgethecauseof
thesuccessoftheattackbytheIndiansandalsofindthecauseoffailureonthePartof
Pakistodefendthemselves.Thiswillaffectthefutureengagementbetweenthetwosidesin
caseoffurthersuchstrikesbyIndianArmyinsidePak.
Hopethishelpstounderstand!
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AzzyM
WrittenOct5
Sometimespeoplemakemistakes.Indiahasmadeablunder.
ThereisnoevidenceofaSurgicalStrike
Itwouldneedsomeonewithoutagreybraintobelieve.
Interestinglythenumberofdeadclaimedhasgrownfrom35to50,Thenumberofinjured
tobeyond200andthenumberofpostsattckedhasgrowneveryday(alltheseasclaimed
bytheIndianpress)from3to7.
Howwouldtheyattackpresumablyalldrunk(?)terroristskill50butonlyinjure200and
thenescapeunscathedfrothemostguardedborderneathincludingDMZbetweenNand
SKorea?
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ThisisablunderbytheIndianGovtofBJPpartyandtopechelonofIndianArmythough
Ithinkneitherwillneverblushandwillcarryonasusual.
SincetheInjunsattackedknowntargets(theydidnotgoonasearchanddestroymission)
Theycanprovidecoordinatesoftheseventerrorcamps.Theseplacescanthenbevisited
byindependentobserverstosettlethequestiononceandforall.
Injiawillnotbedivulginganysecretsbydivulgingthecoordinatessincethe
Pakistansidealreadyknowsthem(Assumingthatthefakesurgicalstrikeswerereal)
IthinkthesestrikesshouldberenamedSurgicalStrikehallucinations
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AhmadKarim
WrittenOct7
Indiawanttomaketheirpeoplehappy.theylietotheirpeopleandwanttheirpeople
happytheyknowthatiftheydonotreleasesuchfacktalkstheywillfacealotofbloodand
economicshidinsidetheirowncountrybcztheknowthenatureoftheirfoolishnation.So
theydolieeithertheydorightorwrongnomatter.buttheworldfollowthetruthwhich
indianevertry..nocountrycanmaketerrorbassesneartheborderorinsidetheircountry.
LalSalamisenoughforIndiasononeedofterrorbassesforpakistantheycandothatby
providingmoneytonexalhero'sandkhalistanmomenthero'ssoit'sfackbeliefthat
pakistanhasterrorbassesinkashmir.so it'ssimplethatiftheynottherethenwhere
indianarmyattackisitonpakarmytheansisno.Aretheattackvillagesansagain
no..thenonlyaquestionariseonforest.Thenmaybethefightwithmonkeys.Sosuppose
theattackonterrorhypotheticalcampswithnocasualtythenit'sevenimpossibleforusa
thattheirarmyattackonacampandwithoutnocasualtysoeveryangletheanswillbe
no..onethingpakistandonotneedterrorstheycanmakeaproxcywarinsideindiawith
outsendingmanfromoutsidetherearesomuchweakpointstheycanuse..
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Ranjeet,Pakistanfaileditscitizens.
WrittenOct7
ThanksforA2A.
Afterreadingmanyresponsestothisquestion,IamveryhappythatPakistanisbelievethat
surgicalstrikesdidnothappen.
IwelcomePakistanipeopletobelieveittilleternity.
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NaveenPrince
WrittenOct4
IaskyourgovernmentandpeopletowakeupandstopworryingaboutMuslimsinIndia
andstartworryingabouttheirinternalissues.becausewetreatthemequallyasbrothersall
overthecountryandaregivenequalrightsandforgodsakestopclaimingforKashmir
youwillonlymakethestateworsethanitscurrentposition..andregardingthecaptured
soldierhewasnotpartofanystrikehecrossedinadvertently.heshouldbereturnedback.
OurBSFreturnedthe12yearoldTanveerofDharitoyourRangersonmonday,healso
crossedtheindianborderinadvertently.thatscalledHumanity.pleasewatchthebelow
videotogetmoreclarityonthingsrelatedtokashmir..
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BinodYumnam
WrittenOct5
AreallthePakistanisterrorists?Indiaconductedsurgicalstrikesonterroristsnoton
militaryandwhywouldtheydeny?Eventhekillingofosamaonpaksoilwasfirstdenied
beforeshowingmultipleevidenceandproofs.Wewillshowproofonlywhenthechiefof
terroristlikeosamaoranyotherheadofmilitantskillingstookplaceontheirsoillikethe
USdidnotforsomemere30sor40slivesofterroris.
AgainIamaskingtothosewhostillhavedoubtwiththesurgicalstrikecarriedoutby
IndianArmy,doyoustillnotbelieveosamasdeathinpaksoil?Denialistheonlyoption
thatthepakgovernmentalwaysuse.
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MuhammadIbrahim,InterestedinMilitaryStudies,AproudMuslim
WrittenOct3
OriginallyAnswered:DidIndiaprovideanyevidencefortheclaimedsurgicalstrike?
ActuallyNo.Insteadtheirnarrationoftheeventkeepschanging
OntheotherhandthePakistanArmedForcestooktheoppurtinityandinivitedall
journaliststoLOC(LineofControl)andgaveabreifing.TheyevencapturedanIndian
soldierof81rajputrifles.
IndiaandPakistanarenuclearpowersandstraightonwarisnotpossiblerightnow.India
iscapableofsurgicalstrikesbutonlythroughArtillerysincetheydohaveGPSguided
munition.ButthatdoesntmeanPakistanwontretalliateandrightnowPakistanhasan
upperhandsonoIndianmilitaryGeneralwilleveradvisethat.
ModiwantedafacesavingafterUrianditbackfired.HehasputtherespectofIndian
militaryonstakeandpersonallyifeelitshouldnotbetolerated
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AnuragKetan,Indian
WrittenOct2
FirstofallOurnation,OurINDIAneverboastfakenewsaboutthesetypesofstuffs.You
cancheckthehistoryitneverprovokedthePAKsforawar.
Talkingabouttheauthencity.,everyofficialinPakistanhasatensionintheirface.Their
responseclarifiesthatthe*surgicalstrikes*havesurelyhauntedthem.
andcomeon,inindia,indianarmyistherespectedandonlyonewithwhomwholenation
isunited.
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MuhammadIqbal
UpdatedOct28
JustaskyourDGMOunderoathcanheevendaresoeveninhisdreams?Hrknowsthe
consequnceseveninconvrntionalwarfarewith9divisionofhosArmyistrapedinKashmir
insideonlyandmujahideensarewaitingforanymisadventureonthepartofIndianrest
willbelessonformilitoryhistorians.Everycountryandsocietyhavesaneandinsane
individualsbutIamastonishedtonotethatsanepeopleonbothsidesfailedtoanalysethe
entiresituationandpurposebehinddramasUriattack,andsurgicalstrikes.Itssole
purposewastodivertworldattentionfromwhatisgoingoninKashmirafterthe
martyrdomofBurhanWanibeforePMofPakistancouldraisethisissueinUNGeneral
Assemblyandtheysucceedinittosomeextent.NowwhereisKashmirissueonceasource
ofnewspaperheadlinesworldover.Thisistheactuallyamediastrikeinwhichthey
succeedrestisdramaastheycannotdaretocrossborderevenindreams.
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MelissaKhan
WrittenOct5
PakistanArmyhasflowntheteamofInternationaljournalisttothesiteswhereIndia
claimedthatsurgicalstriketookplace.Mediapersonalshavespententiredaytalkingto
thelocalpopulationwhichdeniedanyattacks,smellofbloodoranysortsofkillingwhich
mayhavetakenplaceinthearea.LineofControlisheavilyguardedbydifferentkindsof
RadarswhereentryfromanysidecannotgoundetectedmayitbeforIndianarmyor
Pakistanitroops.Indiaclaimsthatteamofsurgicalstrikewasdroppedonothersideof
LOCduringwhiletheheavyfireswerebeingexchanged.Canyouimagineahelicopter
crossingbordersoncefiresarebeingexchangedandthereisaverylikelyhoodofitsbeing
hitbytheenemy?Anyofthearmieswillbestupidtotrythatmove,whatifhelicoptergets
hit.SoInternationaljournalistafterhavinganalyzedthesituation,havingtalkedtolocal
public,afterhavingwitnessedthepositionofsoldiersonPakistaniside,theyhaveruledout
thepossibilityofthatanysurgicalstrikewaspossible.Inend,howdidIndianarmy
intendedtotaketheirtroopsbackfromLOC.Entirescenariooffakingthesurgicalstrike
wasapoliticaldisasterbyModigovernment.Further,doyouthink,terroristsaresostupid
thattheywilllocatethem12kilometersaroundtheLOCwhichisbeingmonitoredbyboth
thesidesandisheavilyguarded.
Wheneveraftersurgicalstrikes,onearmyinformsanotherarmylikeAmericanCounter
partsinformedPakistanabouttheplaceandlocationofsurgicalstrike,Indiainformed
neighboringBhutanregardingasurgicalstriketakenplaceontheirsoil,locationalong
withcoordinatesandreasonforit.
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SaadHasan
WrittenOct7
Isitpossiblethatasurreptitiousstrikeoccurred?YesitspossiblebecausetheLineof
Control(LoC)is760kmlong.ItisjustnothumanlyfeasibleforeitherPakistanorIndiato
maneachandeverykm.AlsotheLoCisnotthesameastheInternationalborderbetween
thesetwocountries.SoingressesbybothacrosstheLoChavehappenedandmoreofthis
recentlycouldbequalifiedbytheIndiansideasbeingasurgicalstrike.
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Anonymous
WrittenOct5
Thissurgical'operationwasjustlikepilesoperation.
Thedoctorsknowtheydidtheoperation,thepatientknowsithappenedbuttheywon't
filmandshowtotheworldwhathappened.
Havefaithonourmilitary.Theydon'tboast.
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MaurviShah,UI&Graphicdesigner|Freelancer|Blogger.
WrittenSep30
Justcameacrossthis..
Sothoughttoshareonalighternote..
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WilsonLobo
WrittenSep29
In3simpleofwords.Theelementofsurprise.Thisisthemostterribleweaponemployed
bythebestmilitariesintheworld.TheenteberaidandtheoperationtokillOsamaare
perfectexamples.
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MubashirAkram,Pakistani
WrittenOct1
firstofallindianmedia,govandarmyofficialclaimsaerialstrikesandthenretractsclaim
aboutaerialstrikes.doyoureallybelievewhatevermedia,govandarmysaysweatheryou
areapakistaniorindian?IDont!
ontheotherhandpakistanigovandarmyofficialsrejectssurgicalstrikebutsaystherewas
attackfromindiansideonLOCinPOK.
sofarwhatihaveunderstandisthatindiansoldierscamethroughLOCandattacked
terroristslaunchpads,asindiansoldiersbreachedLOCsopakistanisideattackedthe
indiansoldiersandthatswhytherewere78indianand2pakistanisoldierscasualties
and1indiansoldierwascaptured.
Thesearemyonlyassumptionfromwhatihaveseenorreadonindian,pakistanimedia
andarmy,govofficialsofwhatwouldhavehappenedthereinPOKLOC.
GodKnowsbetterwhathappenedthere.Becausenoonewilleverknowwhatactually
happened.
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PadmanabhanVenkatesan,MycousinsandfriendswereseniorIndian
Armyofficers.
WrittenOct4
Pakistansreactionconfirmsit.Ithasnosignificance.YounowknowwhatPakistanisare
doing.Indiashouldnothesitateforalimitedbutforcefulreaction.Hitbackstrongly.
Thereisnoothermedicinetodealwithsadism.Insteadofturningintosittingducksletus
belikevulturestostrikeifwearesureaboutenemypreparingforastrike.Hit.Hitback.
Hitbackstrongly.Youcannotcontrolthemaddogbutdecapitate.
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PrashantSingh
UpdatedOct5
IhaveacompletelydifferenttheoryhereandIthinkIndiadidconductedsurgicalstrikes
butonlybecausePakistanallowedittohappenandthatwasbecauseitwasunder
pressurebyUSAsincetherewasaverygoodchanceofIndusWatertreatytogetabrogated
andPakistancouldnotaffordthat,atthesametimeIndiangovthadtotakesomeaction
eitherdiplomaticallyormilitarilyandeliminatingsometerroristcampsissomethingboth
USAandIndiawant
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DheerajUpadhyay,Accidentalsergicalattackexpert)
WrittenOct7
Seethethingis,thegovernmentdidn'tdisclosetheproofsothereisnowayofmehaving
anyproofaboutthesame.
Regradingtheinternationaldenail,IdotthinkthatstruecozManycountrieasaidthey
supportIndianattackandsaidanynationhavetherighttoprotectitsrightsagainst
terrorism.
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RaoSalman
WrittenOct9
therewasnosurgicalstrikeandallIndiansknowit.noproof,nostrike.butwhatis
amazingishowgrownupandeducatedIndiansinademocracychoosetohidetheir
headsinthesandbecausetheydon'twanttoendthiswonderfuldreamofhavingmade
thisstrike.peoplewhohaveaskedforproofinIndiaarebeinglabeledtraitors.itispathetic
towatchIndiarightnow.excusesandstoriesarebeingwovenlikefairlytales.what
happenedissimple.Indianarmyfiredacrossthelocandcalleditasurgicalstrike.theonly
surgicalstrikesthatweremadewerebyKashmiriswhocrossedthelocanddevastatedthe
IndianarmyatUriandbaramulla.Now,thatisasurgicalstrike.
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YogeshGupta,Businessman
WrittenOct2
YesIndiaDidNdJustOneLogicalProof..
WhyDidPakReactedorAcceptedThatItsSoldiersWereKilledOrItKilledIndian
SoldiersOnlyAfterIndiaDeclaredSuccessfulSurgicalStrikes.
IfPakistaaniClaimsWereTrueWhyDidntTheyDeclaredItAsSoonAsTheyConfirmed
TheNews
WhyTheyWaitedForIndianDGMOtoHoldPressConfrenceAndAfterTheIndian
ClaimsTheystartedGivingClarification?
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HimanshuSinghChauhan,adoctorandananalystofnewspapers
publishedfromaroundtheworld
WrittenOct5
Iseenothingunusalwhensuchclaimsaremadethestrikegenuinenlydidhappen,no
itdidnt.Weneedtothinkherethateitherindiaorpakistanistellingthetruthandwe
havetoidentifytheonetellingthetruth.Asperindia.surgicalstrikesconducted
successfully..allpoliticalpartiesinformed..allenvoysinformedsignificantlythe
P5s..NSAtalkstohisUScounterpartreactionscomefromchinausatoremain
calm.andindianarmyconfidentregardingthevideofootageandsnapsmadepublic..
Asperpakistanonlycrossborderfiringoccuredstatementscomefromarmynthe
highesthiearchiesofpoliticalleadership,frompmanddefenceminister(thisnever
happenedbefore)..allpoliticalpartiestrytoremainunitedbutfailtodosowithPTI
callingforpmresignationandboycottingparliamentssession..pakistantakingforeign
mediaonLOCvisits.
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Afteruritherewasdefinitelyafeelingofdisgustandrageamongthemassesandthisstrike
didmakeupforit.Beforecallingitabluffjustrecall..ithappened10daysafter
uri.indiagovtcreatedasituationofchaosbycontemplatingoverindustreatyandmfn
status..theygavethearmytherequiredtimeforsuchreitaliation..anddontforgetif
indiacandoasurgicalstrikeinmyanmmarwhynotpakistanjustthinkispakistans
defencethatmuchstrongindeedoritsjustanimaginationpoppingupfromyourbrain.
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KalpeshGosavi
WrittenSep29
Yesasuccessfulstrikeon29thSept2016whichledtocasualtyinenemybasewhereintotal
7terrorlaunchbaseweredestroyedandofficially2Pakistanisoldierswerekilled.
UnofficiallywedonotknowhowmanyPakistanisoldierswerekilled.
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LakshminarayanaErukulla,IndianArmy,onethebestandthefinest.
AwestruckbytheIndianArmy.
UpdatedOct1
AbsolutelyYES!!
Firstly,itwasnotonPakistan.ItwasinPoK,sopakistancannotbeabitchandcryfoul.
Furtherthisisnotawaronanationorattackonitsarmycamps.Thiswasonterrorists
andtheiroutfits.
Indeedacommendableactbythearmy.
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SanjayRoy,IambigenthusiastofInternationalrelations,Technologyand
humanstories
WrittenSep30
Wellnextisdeepstateaction
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MoosaAli
WrittenOct28
WhereareproofsandpicturesoftheseghoststrikestofoolinnocentIndianpublicyou
governmenttodivertattentionfromrealissuesofpoverty,corruption,moreblackmoney
beingtakenfromindiatoforeignbanks,hunger,mixingofdangerousmaterialsinfood
andwaterandmedicine..OMG.whenwewillstopobsessionaboutPakistanandkashmir
andspendthosebillionsofrupeesondevelopmentofpoorIndianfarmersandotherown
troddenpeople
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AshwinC
WrittenOct5
weareproudofIndiaArmy,eveninthepastwhentheforcesconductedSurgicalStrike,
Particularlyon:
1stSeptember2011
28thjuly2013
14thJanuary2014
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DamanSingh
55/78
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WrittenOct1
checkallaboutsurgicalstrikehereSurgicalstrikebyIndianArmy/PunjabandJammu
andKashmirevaculated.TaleHour
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AmreshPanda,IndiacomesfirstandIbelieveinourArmy....
UpdatedOct8
Proof!!!!Whatkindofproofallofuneed??
SomeofourpoliticiansarestillplayingdirtygamesherethelikesofKejriwal,Sitaram
Yechury,SanjayNirupam
WeallcanraisequestionagainstcommentofourHomeMinisterandPrimeMinisterin
anytopicbutisitrighttoraisequestionagainsttheauthenticityofthesekindofsecrete
operationsjusttogetattentionandjusttoprovethaturveryintelligentandonlybelieve
onproofs???
Letsforgetpoliticsinthismatterjustimagineisitrighttoraisequestionagainstour
Army??DouthinkthatGen.Ranbir,IndianArmyDGMOhasnootherworkthathewill
givefalsestatementtofoolthepublic??
OurArmyCommandosaresacrificingtheirlifeforIndianPeopleandstillsomemorons
areaskingforproof!!!!Uttershamefulthing
ItsarequesttoallIndianthatdontdoubtourArmyatleasttheydontgetmuchbenefit
fromourGovtbuttheyarecontinouslyservingournationandourmotherlandjust
becauseofloveandtheirdedicationneverevertrytogoagainstthosebravehearts
Pakistanwillalwaysclaimthattherewasnosurgicalstrikebecauseitwillhelpthemto
provethattheydontsupportterroristbutwemustacceptthetruthandshouldnthelpthe
Pakistanisbysayingthesamethingtheyaresaying
Ididntwanttowriteanythingregardingthismatterbutthisquestionmademeboundto
writethisquestionisbeingraisedagainandagaininsocialmediaslikeTwitter,FBbut
justtoclearonethingSurgicalstrikeisnotamovieoranythingelsethattheyshould
publishthevideothinklikeatrueIndiananduwillsurelystarttobelieveourArmyJai
Hind.
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ZarbakhatJanjua
WrittenSep29
IndiafacedalotofEmbarrassmentinrecenttimes,whentheywerehumiliatedatall
frontsdiplomatically,whentherehugebidtoisolatePakistan,turnedagainstthem,when
allthemajorpowersofworldrejectedtherebidtoisolatePakistan,whichisstrategically
andgloballyanimportantcountry,Indiahasalonghistoryoflaunchingfakesurgical
strikes,surgicalstrikeswhichinmilitarytermsisdefinedasairassaultsonstrategically
selectedtargets,isbeingmisinterpretedforcrossborderfiringwhichisanormal
occurrencefrombothsidesoftheborder,weliveinagloballyconnectedworld,India
claimsofstrikesinPakistanarebaselessasweretheattacksinMyanmarthereisnoproof
ofcasualtiesoftheseterroristoradestroyedareabysuchattacks,theIndianGovernment
ofBJParerecentlygoingtoinSomepartsofIndia,ModihadtosatisfytheIndianpublic
politicallyforsuchathinghehadtocreatethewholefiascooutofthinair,ofpenetrating
pakistan,sterritory,causedoingitinrealitywillhaveitsconsequences
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RolandSequeira
WrittenOct2
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Simple.IfyouareanIndian,Yes.IfyouareaPakistani,No.IamanIndiansoYesIndia
conductedsurgicalstrikes
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SathishKanna,Spiritualist,Introvert,Englishlanguageenthusiast,Experimentalist,Nature
lover
WrittenOct7
Yes,withoutaniotaofdoubt.Incaseithadnothappened,eventhenit'sourobligationto
standbyourarmy'swords.We'renotcitizensfromanothercountrytochallengeourown
armytovalidatetheiractions.
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NosherwanAli
WrittenOct1
Welltoanswerthiscorrectlyonemustreadinternationalnewspaperscarefully,Nooneis
confirmingitsomeareevenstartedtocallitliehere2sources
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MirzaBaig
WrittenOct2
Yes.inPhantom
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ImtiazMustafa
WrittenOct3
IamsuretheydevelopaXBOXgameforIndianarmytoconductsurgicalstrike
LOLChutiaIndianpeoples.
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ZohaibAftab
WrittenOct4
Thereisn't?itsjustamediawarthesedays.
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MuhammadJunaidBaig
WrittenOct5
http://thediplomat.com/2016/09/i...
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HaroonAbbasi
WrittenOct7
Never
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MohanKrishnan
WrittenSep29
yes
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RajatVerma
WrittenOct7
THISISTHEBIGGESTPROOFOFSURGICALSTRIKEBYINDIA
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Anonymous
WrittenOct11
OriginallyAnswered:Didthesurgicalstrikesreallyhappen?
Justfuckoffalreadyyouloser!!
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SushantKumar
WrittenOct24
IbelievedtheydidbutsocalledourPMisboastingtoomuchandnowIfoundthislink
India's'surgicalstrikes'inKashmir:Truthorillusion?BBCNews
SonowIamalsoindilemma.
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RohitSingh
WrittenOct8
itsbettertobelieveindianarmythenpakistanifoolNodoubtaboutthis#Jaigind
rashtravaadsarvpratham
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SunnyReddy
WrittenOct2
Yes,IndiaconductedasurgicalstrikeinPOK.AndcomingtotheclaimsofPakistanis
mediaandGovernment,PakistanisaNationwhichisbuiltonliesanddisfiguredfacts.
Theyevenclaimtheywon1948and1968wars.TheyevendeniedsurgicalstrikeofUSAin
Pakistan.TheyevendidntacceptthatitsPakistanisarmywhichInstigatedtheKargil
WarwhichendedbysurrenderingofPakistanArmy.Theyareevenlyingnow.Itsinthere
nature.
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SaurabhMahajan,ArmyAspirant,Defenceenthusiast,BlastofPosivity.
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WrittenOct2
YES.
IndianArmyhasofficiallyacceptedthataSurgicalStrikewascarriedout.
That'sit!
Idon'tneedanymoreproof.
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Anonymous
WrittenOct2
IamanIndian,Istillthinktheanswerisnobecauseassomeonesaidthereisnoany
proof.Whywouldsomeonebelieveit.Whathappenedmightbesomefiring(which
happenseverynowandthen)atLOC.
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AdilRaja,IwriteontheestrangedIndoPakbilateraltiespromotingreasonandpeace
WrittenOct3
orPakistan?
Pleasereadmyarticleonthesubject
ViewsofAThinkingMind.....
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ArunveerSingh,ConsistentlyfoolmaintainingIdiocy
WrittenOct3
orPakistan?
AsperpastcredibilityIndianmediaismorereliablethanPakistans.
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AliMehdi
WrittenOct2
BigNO
Reasons:
1.NoProofisgivenbyIndianarmy.Thisistheageofinformationtechnology,nothing
canbehiddeninthisera.Apartfromallofthelatesttechnologiesthereisnotevena
singleproofprovided
2.LoCisheavilyguardedbybothIndianandPakistaniArmy.IliveinPok,who
knowsthesituationbetterthanme?NooneevenknowswhendidIndianArmydo
thatsocalledSurgicalStrike
3.BecauseIndianArmyisIncapableofhavingwaragainstPakistan.Itwasthebest
ideatomakeaBollywoodtypefakedramaandshowtothenationthatIndian
Armyhaveavengedtheterrorists.
IfyouwillbeunbiasedyoucouldeasilysaythattherewasNOSurgical
Operationcarriedout
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JonSnow
WrittenSep29
StillitsnotclearifIAcrossedtheLoCandhowmuchdamageitinflicted.AsperPaks
claimtherewasnosurgicalstrikeanditstandstoreasonthatanysurgicalstrikeminus
theIAFwouldnotbeeffective!:)
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RajinRNair,Peacewouldsuffice
WrittenSep29
Mybrotherinlawisanarmypersonnel(aMajor)inLeh,Kashmir.
Itwashewhoconfirmedthisnewstome.Well,IthinkIdontneedtoask/confirmitwith
moreevidenceorresearch.
Cheers.
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SalmanIqbal
WrittenOct3
orPakistan?
InresponsetoyourA2A.
sorryIamonavacationandwifedislikesmyspendinglongwhilesonatabletpeckingout
wordsslowlyletterbyletterwithmyweakeyesight.Can'tgiveadetailedanswermyself
rightnow.Thisquestion(initsvariousforms)hasbeensomuchdebatedonQuorathatif
yougothroughallthemanyanswersalreadyavailableonQuoraonthistopic,you'llhave
plentyofargumentstoweighandconsiderandmakeupyourmind.
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PrabhakaranjohnJohn,ATamilianwhotakesprideinhisoriginandthusatrueIndian
WrittenOct1
Itdoesntmatternow.ButnowtheyhavethegutstosayYeswedidcrossLOCanew
change.Earliersuchthingswillbeeitherdeniedorkeptundercarpet.
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YasirAftab
WrittenOct2
AbsolutelyfakeandFabricated.ifanysuchoperationwouldhavedonebyIndianarmy,
theywouldhavereleasedanyfootageoftheiroperation.Imnotinfavorofanyaggression
fromeitherside.Bothcountriesshouldfocusonhealth,educationandbasicnecessacities
oflife.
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Anonymous
WrittenOct4
IndiaFinallyStopsLyingModiAdmitsThatNoSurgicalStrikeTookPlace
thissaysitall
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PrajwalSGowda
WrittenOct3
orPakistan?
Yessugicalstrikedidhappen,damagingalotofterrorcampsinPOK.
Anditsobvioustheyredenyingit,justliketheydenied26/11andpathankotandother
attacks.
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Gaurav,Proudtobeanindian.
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WrittenOct4
ifiamanindian,thiswillbeainsultingofourBraveArmytoaskthemproofofsurgical
strike.
ButthequestionraisedontheDignityofindianarmy.itismyresponsibilitytoreplywith
integrityandproud.
thereareseveralproofwhicharefollowing:
1.aftersurgicalstrikepakistanDefenseministeragreedwiththisbutafterpolitical
pressurehedenial.
2.Navazsharifheldacabinatemeetingaftersurgicalstrike.
3.HaffezSaeedaddressedmassofpeopleandprovokethemagainstindiannews
channelsandarmy.whatwastheneedofthis?BIG?
4.whypakistanigovt.isfeelingunstablewhentherewasaminorattack.
5.EntireworldacceptedthatindiadidsurgicalstrikeinPOK.
6.OppositePartiesLeaderofPakistanlikeImrankhanthreatenindiatoretaliate.
7.THEbiggestthingwhentherewasminorattackthenwhythearebehavingUnusually.
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Vidya,Analyst
WrittenOct3
Somehow,IhaveafeelingthatBJPhasraisedthistheoryofsurgicalstrikejusttosaveit's
face.IhaveimmenseconfidenceontheIndianArmyandbelievethattheycouldachieve
anypossiblefeat,butsomehowIhaveagutfeelingthatBJPfakedittotonedownthewar
hysteria.
However,It'shightimethatweactuallyconductedanU.S.kindofraiddeepinsidethe
enemylines.
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MadhusudanPanda
WrittenOct3
1.Indianpeopledoyouhaveaniotaofdisbeliefthatyourgovt.willliewithyou?Ours
isademocraticgovernmentwithaccountabilityanditwillneverdoanythingtobring
disgracetoyouorIndiaasanationnoworlater.EveryIndianmustholdthisbelief.
2.WhyisPakistanaskingforproof?Thereasonsare:theywanttosee/measurehowthe
soldierslookedlike,whatkindweaponstheycarried,etc.,etc.sothattheycanprepare
themselvesandhaveathroughpreparationonIndianpreparedness.
3.AsIndians,doyouthinkitiswisetodiscloseoursensitiveandsecretinformationto
PakistanGovt?
4.JustseePakshistory.Howtheirveryadministrationistellingliesafterlies.Ithinkyou
donothavedoubtonthis.TakeMumbaiattack.HowtheydismissedKasabdoesnot
belongtothem?Examplesgalore.Butwhatconcernsis:ifpeopleatthetoppractice
thesekindsofbehaviors,stooptoliesanddeceit,whattheyoungergenerationwill
learnfromthem?Liesbecomeahabit.Deceitbecomesahabit.Oncesomebodyis
habituatedtothesebehaviors,hewillneverthinkheisdoingcrimeevenifhecommits
crime.Pakistanisinfectedbythis.Yes,therearefewgoodpeopleinPakistan,butthey
arejustadropofpurewaterinthemessofpollutedocean.Somebodyshouldcome
forwardtotaketheonus.Peopleshouldbemotivatedtotakeinitiativestomodify
thesebehaviors.
5.PaksallyChinahasnotquestionedIndiasstrike.DoyouthinktheChinesewill
digestIndiasverbosewithoutanyactions.
6.IndiahasdemonstratedtechnologydemonstrationinreachingMars.Indiahas
secondstrikecapability.Indiahasprogressonmissiledefencetechnology.Justcheck
otherrecentIndiascapabilityandsuccessindefenceinyoutube.
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HamidBhurgari
WrittenSep30
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CompleteBSnews.Indiahasnosuchcapability.Therearenovideos,notargetlists,no
confirmations.ItsIndianmediaswayofsatisfyinganationthathasbeenlosingawarin
Kashmir.TakealookatthedefinitionofsurgicalstrikesandstrikesdonebyUS.Theyshow
youthetargetsandevidenceofthehits.Theseguysthinktheworldisasstupidastheir
Indianpublic.
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KrishnaKumar
WrittenSep29
Indianforcesareon'domesticcleanlinessdrive'inPOK.Don'tunderstandwhyPakistanis
soworried,callingitanattack!
#IndiaStrikesBack#SurgicalAttack
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AbhinavSingh,Adviceondailylifechallenges..
WrittenOct3
Theproofthatsurgicaloperationwasdone:
1.Indiahasshownthevideooftheirattackto22countriesandtheysupportedand
congratulatedIndiaontheirsuccesd
2.ThestrikewasdonePARACOMMANDOs..nodoubtthattheyarecapableofsuch
strike.
3.TheattackwasplannedbyAJITDOVALformerRawspyandheadofNSAcurrently
securityadvisorofPM.
Ustillhaveanydoubt.
AlsoPakistanigovernmentandarmyandworldclasslierstheyliedaboutmanythingsin
kargilwars..
1.Theyliedthatkargilwarwasfoughtbyterroristbuttheyhavegivengallantryawards
tosoldiers
2.Alsotheyliedthatnawazsharifknewnothingaboutthewarbutthetruthwas
broughttolightbydefenceministerGeorgeFernandes.
Iamjustwaitingforwhenthepakistaniwillthemselvesagreetosurgicalstrike
ThankYou
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AloenaAloena,indian
WrittenOct1
Isearchedbutfoundnoindependentnewsaboutthesurgicalstrikes.Notasingle
independent(nonIndian/Pakistani)sourcehasconfirmedthenewsnorhasanyofthe
othercountriesreactedtothis.Ifitweretrueandnoneofthemajorcountriesmadea
comment,itwouldimplythattheworlddoesnotcareaboutIndia.Whichmakesme
almostcertainthatthiswasajumla,likemanyotherjumlasbyModi.(Theonlydoubtis
becausethearmyconfirmedit).
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SalmanKhan
WrittenOct1
IndiadidheavyfiringonLOCandthatisthemaximumtheycando.
Pakistaniwantpeace.butifchildishIndiawantwar,theneveryoneinPakistanisbrave
andreadytodieandcanfuckIndia.
WorldislaughingatbothPakistanandIndia.
WheneverashithappeninIndia,everybodyfromtoptobottomstartblamingPakistan
immediatelywithoutinvestigation.Stupidbrainwashedpeoplewhorecentlylearnedanew
wordterrorist.FYI:WhatIndianisdoinginKashmiriscalledstateterrorism
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Leadersonbothsidelackmoralgrounds,Modiisaterroristandhewasbannedtoenter
UKandUSbecauseofwhathedidinhisstate.AndNawazisfinanciallycorrupt.
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AkshayTripathi,LotofclosefriendsservedinIndianDefenseForces..
WrittenOct5
WhyshouldIndiaProvideanyProof?
DoPakistaniwantit?Buttheysayitisnevercarriedout!Thenwhytheywantproof?Or
theyaresayingtheirsourceofinformationisnotreliableandwantindiatohelpinthattoo
??
PakistanissamecountrywhichneveracceptedtheirownsoldiersdiedinKargil,andlater
theirexGeneralshamelesslyacceptedit.
SodouthinktheywillacceptanyproofwhichproovesincapacityoftheirArmy?
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NappurajPurohit
WrittenSep30
Actuallytheproblemwithpakipeople'sisthat..thydon'treallyknowaboutthereown
politicalconditionsandbelievewhateverpakarmy
(terrorists)says
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HaseebAkbar,lovePakistantodeath
WrittenOct7
Thereisnoevidence.TheirHoaxstoppedwhenUNcommissiondeniedthereclaimsof
surgicalstrikes.Modiiscleverman,usedpropagandatosatisfypublicshysteriaofwar
againstPakistan.
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Ritika,IndianbyBirthandHeart....
WrittenOct1
Yes,Definitely.JustthinkthatifIndiawouldnothaveconductedthestrikethenwhywould
PakistanterroristHafeezSaeedWarnIndiansandalsowhywouldPakistanleaders
suddenlyconducttheirmeetingsandaBIGWHY?WhywouldPakistanreachouttoUN
SecurityCouncil?????Tellmewhy????
JahanAagLagiHotiHHWahinDhuaanuthtahh..
Andmostimportantlymyquestionsansweredyourquestion.Ihopeyouareclearnowthat
INDIANARMYCONDUCTEDTHESURGICALSTRIKEINPOK.
JaiHind!!!
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RizwanRanjha,IamaPakistaniIndian,fromthelandofIndusorIndiawhichisPakistan.
WrittenSep30
Yes.
Anushkaslips,ShilpasnoseandAdnanSamisbelly.
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ShawMichael
WrittenOct10
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Indiaisaterroriststatefromtheverybeginningofitsexistence.ithasobservedmany
statesintoitsmapsuccessfullyafterthepartitionandillegitimatelyoccupiedapartof
MuslimpopulatedKashmir.ithelpedcreatemuktibahiniandbecauseoftheirassistance
pakistanwascompelledtokillenormousamountofitsowncivilianandlostbangal.itis
nowinvolvingitselfinbalochistanandishelpingthebadguysinthearea.comparedto
indiapaksitanisamuchsmallercountryandisdoingeverythingpossibletosurvive.After
electingthegenocidemastermodiastheirprimeministerindianpeoplehaveprovedthat
thecountryisnotassecularasitisperceivedfromtheoutside.indianmediaisalsothe
mostshittymediaintheworldandalongwithmodigovernmentitistryingtocreatea
situationwhichwillplungeboththecountriesintoawarwhichwillbeamessforbothand
therewillnowaytoreturn.paksitanhaslostthousandsofitstroopswhilefightingthe
internalterroristsgroupsandhavewitnesshugecasualtiesintheformofitscivilians.
doingsurgicalstrikesinpakistanwillworsenthesituationandwillonlyhelptheterrorists.
boththecountriesshouldcometogetherandstartdialogues.
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ShivDandriyal,Indian
WrittenSep29
1.DidIndianArmykillinnocenthumans?
2.DidIndianArmykillPakistancitizens?
3.DidIndianArmykillPakistanisoldiers?
Theywereterroristanddeservetodie.
Don'tyouthinkPakistaniMilitaryshouldhavedoneitbeforeIndianarmyhadtodoit?
TheyareestablishingterroristcampstheresothattheycoulddisturbpeaceandkillIndian
soldiers.Also,moneycomingintheformofWahabiIslamisusedtoplagueyoungindian
kashmiri.TheyhavebeendoingitconsistentlyandrescuedbyPakistanimilitarywhohave
giventhemshelter.AndhaditbeenRussiaorUSA,theywouldhavethrashedthemway
earlierthanwedid.
Indiabeingapecefullcountrylosttoomanyofitsyoungsonsjustbecauseofavenomous
neighbour.So,YesIdothinkthiswasarightdecisionandwasdue,tobehonest.Couldn't
havedoneitbetter,welldonetoIndianArmy.
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SusheelTiwari
WrittenSep30
ThesurgicalstrikesinPakistanOccupiedKashmir thatwerecarriedoutbyIndialast
nightwererecordedoncamerasthegovernmentwilldecidewhetherandwhentorelease
thefootage,includingsomeobtainedthroughdrones,saidtopsources.
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Atmidnight ,IndiamovedtroopsacrosstheLineofControltotargetsevendifferent
launchpadswhereterroristshadbeenplacedtoinfiltrateIndiaandcarryoutattacks
withinKashmiraswellasothermajormetros,saidthearmytoday .Pakistanwascaught
totallybysurprise ,saidsources,crucialto"achievingfullimpact."Ahugenumberof
terroristswerekilledeach"launchpad"thatwasattackedheldatleast10terroristsand
anequalnumberofguidesandotherassistants.
Thegovernmenthadrecognised"massanger"amongpeopleaftertheterrorattackatan
armybaseinUriearlierthismonth,saidministerswhowerepresentthismorningatPrime
MinisterNarendraModi'sreviewofsecurity.TheyaddedthatrecentmovesbyIndiato
isolatePakistanby"tinkeringwithitsMostFavouredNationtradingstatusorrecalling
envoyswasnolongerenoughtoaddressthelevelsofanger ."
IndiansoldierswentatleasttwokilometresacrosstheLineofControltodifferentpartsor
sectors,saidministers."Ourforceshavegonedeepinandcomebackbeforesunrise,"they
said,addingthatPakistan'sdenialofthestrikesisexpected.
Thestrikes,whichincludedparacommandosandhelicopters,areIndia'sfirstdirect
militaryresponsetotheattackinUriwhichleft18soldiersdead.Fourterroristsfrom
PakistanattackedthebaseonSeptember18withAK47sandgrenades.
Explainingtheaction,sourcessaidthat"PrimeMinisterModitriedpeacefortwoyears,
(but)NawazSharifhasdecidedtotoehisarmy'sline."ForeignMinisterSushmaSwaraj
alsotoldtheUnitedNationsGeneralAssemblyonMondaythatPMModi'soutreachtoMr
Sharif,whichincludedinvitinghimtothePrimeMinister'sswearinginandasurprisevisit
towishthePakistanipremierforhisbirthdayinDecember,hasmetwithaseriesofterror
attacks.
ThePMhadwarnedthattheUriassaultwouldbeavengedandthatthearmywouldtake
actionatanappropriatetime.Inrecentdays,ashisgovernmentmovedtoisolatePakistan
diplomaticallyandtopressureitbyrethinkingcrucialwatersharingandtrade
agreements,thePMwasurgedbysomewithinhisownpartyaswellasoppositionleaders
totakestrongactionagainstIslamabadtoproveterroristattacksinIndiawillnotbe
tolerated.
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ShahidKhan,pursuingMSC
WrittenOct1
NoIndianwillcomeheretoanswerthisquestionbecauseitaskaboutevidences.Theyare
goodatonlymakingfabricatedstoriesandfictionallongwriting.
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PrashanthSagar,WellversedwithINDIANARMY..
WrittenSep30
YesPakistanisaglobalterrosristdealerandbreeder.Ratherthanbattlingforfoodand
lifetheydevelopcheapnukesincollaborationwithChinaandtheythreatentheirfather
INDIA.IFINDIACANSENDAROVERTOMARSthenWHYCANTTHEYSENDTHE
BESTFORCESTOTHECHILLARAREA??
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PirSaien,Pakistanicitizen
WrittenSep29
Indiansurgicalstrike:howithappened
*sincekrishgotsupermanabilitiesafterhisfathertransferedhispowerstohimhecarried
4indiansoldiersandtransportedtoPakistan
*IndianArmytookhelpofkrishasindianlackedanystealthaircraft
*krishwithhissuperpowersdodgedactiveradarsandnakedsoldierseye
*afterkillingallthesuspectsonthebases,somesoldiersmanagedtoseeindiansoldiers
*krishwithhispowersswiftlykilledpakistanisoldiersbeforetheycouldinformthemilitary
*krishthencarriedthesoldiersbackandlandedinindiasafely
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PirEmad
WrittenSep29
Iamsuretheykilledtheironsoldiersasusual,sometimestheycallthemterrorist&
sometimesclaimcasualties.
AstheydidinUriattackandbeofethatIndiankilledtheiron53sikh\U0001f473soldiers
beforeBillClintonvisitin1998.It'sIndiaroutinejobtokilltheirownsoldiers&blameon
PakistantodivertthesituationeitherinKashmiroranypoliticalpressure.
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Answersthatareduplicates
WrittenOct4
orPakistan?
Noarmywouldbefoolishenoughtoprovideevidenceofanintelligencebasedsurgical
strike.Especiallywhenitmayneedandplanstocarryonmoresuchstrikesinfuture.Only
thosewhoexpectordemandsuchevidenceareutterfools.Theyareeitherdoingit
deliberately,lookingforpoliticalbrowniepointsorarefallingintothePakistanitrapof
denialandchallengeforproof.
reallyhappened!
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WrittenOct4
Haha.Noarmywouldbefoolishenoughtoprovideevidenceofanintelligencebased
surgicalstrike.Especiallywhenitmayneedandplanstocarryonmoresuchstrikesin
future.Onlythosewhoexpectordemandsuchevidenceareutterfools.Theyareeither
doingitdeliberately,lookingforpoliticalbrowniepointsorarefallingintothePakistani
trapofdenialandchallengeforproof.DespiteallthetheatricsofAAPandKejriwal,I
neverexpectedsuchfoolishnessfromhim.Afterall,heisknowntobeanIITian!Perhaps
heisonlyexIITiannow.Tradedhisgreymatterfortheabilitytovomitoutsenseless
politicalrhetorics.
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reallyhappened!
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politicalrhetorics.
reallyhappened!
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boxes.
ofthecommandoraid.
resistance,"hesaid.
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AyanKumar,ReadabouteverywarofPakandIndiaandknowsPakistan'sattitudeand
nature.
WrittenSep30
OriginallyAnswered:DidtheIndianArmyreallycarryoutsurgicalstrikesinPoK?
YEStheIndianARMYactuallycarriedoutthesurgicalstrikeinPoK.Pakistanisnot
admittingoutbecausetheyweresittingducksanddidntknowshitwhenoursuperpara
commandoswentthereandattacked5launchpadsandkilledmanyterrorists(4050).
EventhoughPakistanwasinformeditcouldntdoshit.Andpakistanisnotadmittingit
becauseitisadisgraceforthemthatTHEINDIANSOLDIERScrossedLOCandcarried
theattacks.IfyoudontbelieveitthenwatchthevideoofHafizSaeedsspeechthatthey
willtakerevengeforthesurgicalstrikesbyIndiaandwewillbereadyforthemandgive
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themhell.Thiswholeincidentwasobservedbythegovernment.Thecommandoswere
paradroppedinPoKatmidnightandwentaround25kmdeepandcamebackbefore
sunrisewithoutanycasualty.MoreoverPakistansclaimthatitkilled14Indiansoldiersin
acrossfireatLoCandIndiaisnotrecoveringthebodiesofthesoldiersistotalscrap
becausenothingsuchasthathappenedandifitHADhappenedIndiawouldneverdenyit
andrecoverthebodiesasIndiaisnotliketheshamelessPakistanthatrefusedtoaccept
thebodiesofitssoldiersduringtheKargilWarinwhichIndiakickedPakistansass.
ProudtobeanIndianandproudofITSAWESOMEANDBRAVEDEFENCEFORCES
ANDTHESOLDIERS.
JAIHIND
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AlbertDerozio,KnowquiteabitaboutPakistanihypocrisy
WrittenOct8
Pakistansstrongdenialisevidencenumberone.
ThelasttimePakistandeniedsomethingwithsuchvehemence,itwasduringthe26/11and
laterwhenOsamaBinladenwaskilled.Inbothcases,evidencewasprovidedandPakistan
washumiliatedagainandagain.
TheWorldhasntdeniedIndiasclaim.OnlyPakistanhasdoneso.TheUNMOIPisnot
recognizedbyIndiabecauseitisnotpresentthere.Foreignmediawasnotallowed
anywhereneartheactualsitesoftheincursions.Theywerebroughttoasetoftents,given
teaandbiscuitsandweregivensomelocalstointerview.Whereistheevidencethat
thesepeoplewhowereinterviewedwereevenlocalstobeginwith?
AllthosearticlesonBBCandNYTarewrittenbyPakistanijournalistsusingPakistans
officialpropagandaorganizationISPR,which,asthenamesuggests,isabranchofthe
ISI.
AnotherevidenceisMirpursSPstatingquiteclearlythattherewereincursionsand
JohadistswhowerekilledbyIndia.
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ofthecommandoraid.
resistance,"hesaid.
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JatinGosalia,Commonman
WrittenOct3
OriginallyAnswered:WassurgicalstrikereallyhappenedinPOKonmorningof29thSeptember?
Indiaiscountrywithbigtransparency.Pakistanbeforeduringkargildeniedthatit
hasanywherecrossedthelineofcontrol.Laterweallknowthetruthofthesame.
India,firstlytheordersregardingcrossingthelineofControltoArmyChiefisgivenby
PresidentofIndiawiththerecommendationsofPM.InIndiatobypassArmy
ChiefandPresidentiscompletelyimpossible.NarendraModiGovernmentwon't
dothisandifatallGovernmentdecidestodothiseitherPresidentorArmyChief
wouldhavedeniedthereports.HerePakistanhas2reasonstodenyit.
1.IfPakistanacceptssurgicalstrikes,killingof38terrorists,thenterroristscampsis
automaticallyaccepted
2.ifPakistanacceptssurgicalstrikes,weakarmyisalreadyaccepted.
Unconfirmedreportsalsosaythat,DGMOIndia,calledupPakistanDGMO
afterthestrikeswherecompletedandofferedawindow.Indiaoffered
Pakistanthatinmediaajointstatementshallbegivenstatingthe
strikes.IndiaandPakistaninajointcounterterrorattackonterrorists
campinPakistanhaskilled38terrorists.
ThiswasthewindowgiventoPakistanwhichwasunacceptablebyPakistanarmyChief.It
issaidNawazSharifagreedtothis.Whenwindowisofferednaturallyit'sveryclear
governmentofIndiadidn'twishtogetallcredittothemselves.Pakistanwillcomeinto
rightmodeafterfewevidencecomesforward.AssuchModihasgreat
importanceoftimingsandthetapewillcomeoutatrighttime.
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politicalrhetorics.
surgicalstrikes',andtakestockofwhathappenedafterthedeclarationofthestrikes:
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reallyhappened!
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JustforamomentleavesidethequestionthatwhetherornotIndiareallyconductedthe
reallyhappened!
Ifboththecountriesarebetteroff,thenModiprovestobeagreatstatesman.
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AhmadKarim
WrittenOct5
Ithinknobczindiaknowtheconsequencesofthatstrike..
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JatinSingh,Averysmalllerner
WrittenOct3
orPakistan?
Hi
BothcountriesmediagotentirenewsaboutthisstrikethroughofficeoftheDGMOsof
bothsides.
Howwouldmediaknowabt.Atopsecretmission?Secondly,evenUSA,didnotreleasethe
entirevideoofBinLaden
Ifyouremember.Since,secreacyisthepartofthismission.So noevidenceshasbeen
shownbytheOperationteam.
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DeepakBakshi,Indiancitizen.Militaryfamilybackground.
WrittenOct4
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misinformation?
Youcantandyouwont.
ThereisareasonwhyArmyisArmyandciviliansarecivilians.Allyouneedtoknowitthat
ithappened.Howithappenedisnoneofyourbusiness.Itdoesnotbenefityouinanyway.
Yourlifewouldstillremainthesame,irrespectiveoftheanswer.
TheArmyisresponsibleforprovidingprooftothePresidentofIndia.Iamsuretheyhave
donethat.However,thePresidentisnotobligatedtodivulgethesefactstoyou.
Forthatmatter,howdoweknowwearethechildrenofourparents?Howmanyofusget
aDNAtestdonetoconfirmthat?Afewthingsareobvious,itisfoolishtoquestionthem.
Gday
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OriginallyAnswered:IsthereanyEvidenceandunbiasedproofofsurgicalstrike?
politicalrhetorics.
reallyhappened!
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WrittenOct6
Ourarmy,PMforthefirsttimesaidthatwedidthis/that.
Idon'tseeanyreasontonottobelievethem,itsnotliketheysaythatallthetime.
Asoftheproof,Idon'thaveanysocan'tsayyoutobelieveme.
Youdeductthatbyyourown.
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AhmedZafar,Pakistani
WrittenOct1
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DidIndiadostrikesinsidefreeKashmir?No.
YouwanttheworldtobelieveIndiadid?Showproof.
Edit:HeresadetailedanswerIvewritten.AhmedZafar'sanswertoDidIndiareally
conductasurgicalstrikeonPakistan?
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WrittenSep30
ThanksfortherequestbutsinceIamlatetherearemanygoodanswerofthisquestion.
ShauryaSingh'sanswertoDidIndiareallyconductasurgicalstrikeonPakistan?
Kindlygothroughitfordetailedanswer.
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SalmanIqbal
WrittenOct1
Ibelievethatsomethinghadbeenattemptedbutdidnotmeetwithconspicuoussuccess.
However,thatisnotthepoint.Thenecessitynowistodefusethesituation.Asregardsyour
requestforfactsandfigures,howcananyordinarycitizenhaveaccesstofigures?Let'snot
debatebuttrytoresolvetheissue.Themostpressingmatteris,thebeleagueredKashmiris
mustbeprovidedwithrelief.Callingthemtraitorsisnosolution.Firinguponunarmed
civiliansisnosolution.KillingoffBurhanWaniinafakeencounter,fortheoffenceof
airinghisviewsonthenet,isnosolution.Whykeepclingingtooldmantras?They'renot
working.
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ChiyoHirakuSuzuki,chio
WrittenOct3
Pakistan?
AsurgicalstrikeoperationbyIndianforcesbegsthequestionofthemilitaryscapabilityto
launchsuchstrikes,souainglogic,reasonandalltheinformationwehavethereisaABig
NOthefactisindiasimplyisnotcapableofcarryingoutasurgicalstrike
anddefinitelynotinabiggercountrylikepakistanwherebordersecurityon
locisverytoughbecauseindiaisperceivedasandexistentialthreatto
pakistanandnottomentionitisanuclearstatehavingmorenuclearwar
headsthanindia.
JapaneseNewsPaperExposedtheDramaofIndianSurgicalStrikein
Pakistan
OnThursdayIndiaclaimedithadconductedasurgicalstrikeinPakistancontrolled
KashmiracrosstheLineofControl(LoC).PakistandeniedthatIndiacarriedouta
surgicalstrikeandclaimedthattwoofitssoldierswerekilledincrossborderfire.
Thenotionofsurgicalstrikelinkedtoallegedterroristsbasesisanillusionbeing
deliberatelygeneratedbyIndiatocreatefalseeffects,thePakistanimilitarysaidina
statement.
Indiasdirectorgeneralofmilitaryoperations,Lt.Gen.RanbirSingh,publiclyannounced
thestrike.Hestated,Basedonreceivingspecificandcredibleinputsthatsometerrorist
teamshadpositionedthemselvesatlaunchpadsalongtheLineofControltocarryout
infiltrationandconductterroriststrikesinsideJammuandKashmirandinvariousmetros
inotherstates,theIndianarmyconductedsurgicalstrikesatseveraloftheselaunchpads
topreemptinfiltrationbyterrorists.
Indiahasprovidedfewdetailsoftheoperationbutsourcesindicatethatthesurgical
strikesconsistedofaheliborneunitandSpecialForcesthatinfiltratedtheLoCand
conductedassaultsonsevensuspectedterroristlaunchpadsthatweretwotothreekm
beyondtheLoC.
ThroughoutthedayPakistanhascontinuedtodenyanysurgicalstriketookplace.There
hasbeennosurgicalstrikebyIndia,insteadtherehadbeencrossborderfireinitiatedand
conductedbyIndiawhichisexistentialphenomenon,thePakistanArmysaidina
statement.
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AsurgicalstrikeoperationbyIndianforcesbegsthequestionofwhetherIndianforces
havethecapabilitytolaunchsuchasophisticatedandcoordinatedattack.
capabilitytoconductcounterterroroperations,whilemuchofitsforcesarestillorganized
andtrainedonColdWarmodels.
andRostumIIjustbegantesttrialsthissummer.Indiasdronedevelopmentprogramis
stillinitsinfancy.
However,developmentandproductionoftheartillerysystemisnotslatedtobeginuntil
2018.
guidedmissile(ATGM)Hellfire,whichhasfrequentlybeenusedfortargetingoperations
byU.S.forces.IndiaiscurrentlyproducingadomesticATGMcalledtheHelina,a
exceedinglydifficultasPakistanboastsanincrediblyimpressiveairdefensesystem.
PakistancontrolledKashmirisahighthreatareaforshoulderfiredsurfacetoairmissiles,
someofwhichhavefoundtheirwayintothehandsofmilitantgroups.Anyairoperation
overtheterritorywouldbeunderthreatfromtheseweaponsystems.
IndiahasreleasedlittledetailontheoperationhoweverifIndiainfactcarriedoutacross
bordersurgicalstrikeonterroristfacilitiesandnotPakistanimilitaryposts,itwouldbea
paradigmshiftinIndiaswaragainstterroristandmilitantorganizations.Itwouldalso
boasttheperceptionthatIndiasasymmetricalwarfarecapabilityisfurtheralongthan
manymayperceive
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MohammadZamin
WrittenOct7
Absolutelynoevidencesofar.Thoughitisbeingdemandedbyseveralpoliticalparties.
Infactthosewhoaredemandingthevideoarebeingharassedandmaligned.
InkattackonDelhiCMArvindKejriwalinBikanerTimesofIndia
ThereisanotherMLAstatingthattheIndianArmyisshootingavideoinKashmirfor
unknownpurposes.
KashmirlawmakersaysIndianarmyshootingvideosinhisconstituencytoshowfake
proofofsurgicalstrike
Pleasenotethismanisaveteranlawmakerandheclaimshavebeenshutoutfromthe
mainmedia.
Bearingthesethingsinmindtheworldwilleventuallydissectanyfakevideocreatedand
thentheproblemswillbegin.
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WrittenSep30
Thefactthatwehaven'tbombedyouyetisenoughevidencetoprovethatthesocalled
# SurgicalStrike isjustamediagimmick.
AllyouneedtodoistochecktheIndianclaimagainstitcurrentcapabilities.Indiasaysit
hasperformedasurgicalstrike23kminside,with3540casualtiesandwithoutasingle
lossorcasualtytotheirside.Weneedtocheckifindiahassuchcapabilitythenoffcourse
wehavetoadmititsclaim,otherwiseindianshavetoadmitthatthiswasafabrication
designedtofoolthem.
ToperformaREALSURGICALSTRIKE,indianarmy(aswellasPakArmy)willneed
thefollowingingredients)
1.StealthHelicopterstoevaderadarsandairdefence.theclaimsayscommandoswere
airdropped.
2.AtleastahundredcommandosofSuperheroeswithIronMansuitstoprotectthem
fromcounterattackwithmachineguns,grenade,mines,groundsensors.keepingin
mindLoCisthemostheavilyguardedlineintheworldfrombothsides.
UnfortunatelyneitherIndianorPakistanhavesuchcapabilitiesatpresent.
UnlikeaFAKESURGICALSTRIKEcanbeperformedanywhere,anytime,
againstanyonewithdreamresults,withnoimplicationsortechnological
barriers,thoserequiredinaREALSURGICALSTRIKE.
ALLISWELL.HAPPYHAPPYSITUATION(likeinIndianow)
Pleasecheckthefollowingtechnicalarticleonwww.thediplomat.com:
Also,checkaninterestingconversationtwogeneralistsfromPakistanandIndia:
ShahzebkhanzadaTimeline
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QuoraUser
WrittenSep29
misinformation?
Dronesfilmedoperation,2soldiershurtbymines:Allyouneedtoknow
aboutthesurgicalstrike.
Hereisallyouwanttoknowonthesurgicalstrikes:
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1.DGMO(DirectorGeneralofmilitaryoperations)LtGeneralRanbirSinghsaidthe
strikeswerelaunchedonWednesdaynightbasedon"veryspecificandcredible
informationthatsometerroristunitshadpositionedthemselvestoinfiltrate"into
India.
2.TheannouncementfollowedameetingoftheCabinetCommitteeonSecuritychaired
byPrimeMinisterNarendraModi ,whohadvowedtoavengeUriinanearliertweet.
3.Theoperationlastedfrom12.30amto4.30am,withthelocationbeing500metresto
2kmfromtheLoConthePakistaniside,sourcesintheIndianArmysaid.
4.SeventerrorlaunchpadsweredestroyedbythecommandosoftheArmySpecial
Forces,whowereparadroppedintothePakistaniterritorybyALHDhruvchoppers.
5.Thesurgicalstrikeswererecordedoncameraswithdronesalsorecordingfootage.
6.2Indiansoldierwasinjuredfromlandminesduringthesurgicalstrikes,theArmy
said.Italsosaidithadnoimmediateplansofanothersuchoperationfornow.
7.TheentireoperationwasmonitoredthroughthenightbyDefenceMinisterManohar
Parrikar ,NSAAjitDoval,ArmyChiefGeneralDSSuhagandothertopofficialsfrom
theArmyheadquartersinDelhi.
8.ThePakistaniArmyhasdeniedanysurgicalstrikebyIndiabuthasadmittedthattwo
ofitssoldierswerekilledbyIndianforcesincrossborderfiringinKashmirearlier
today.
9.PakistanPrimeMinisterNawazSharifhascondemnedthekillingoftwoPakistani
soldiers.SharifwarnedthatPakistan's"intentforpeacefulneighbourhoodshouldnot
bemistakenasourweakness".
10.Thegovernmenthadcalledanallpartymeetingat4pmfollowingthesurgicalstrikes.
MostoppositionpartieshavewelcomedIndia'sstrikeonPakistan.
11.PMModihasalsobriefedPresidentPranabMukherjee,VicePresidentHamidAnsari,
formerPMManmohanSingh ontheArmyoperation.TheGovernorandChief
MinisterofJammuandKashmirhavealsobeenbriefed.
12.REFINDIATODAY
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QuoraUser,Battlescarredproinlovewithbooks,bio'sandthebeautiful
WrittenOct2
OriginallyAnswered:Werethesurgicalstrikescarriedoutornot?
NORIDDLEoftheSPHINXhere.
OptionsPros&ConsRisksBrainstormsGoaheadPlanningBacktoBasics
FewdayslaterAfewhardymenSatlisteningto...Who,What,When,Whereand
HowButwaitArethesejust...afewmenlistening?Arewemissingsomethingintrinsic?
Somethingdeep?YesweareOnthatday...AllofthemknewdeepwithinThatthis
couldbetheendofroadforthemPeoplecouldnothaveexperiencedevena
shadeofwhattheyfeltYettheylistenedtoeachandeverywordwithextreme
focusTryingtofathomAbsorbWhat,When,WhereandHowEachwordanelixir
TheyknewiftheydidasplannedTheywouldreturnhome...Victorious.&Safe...Millions
ofquestionscrossedtheirmindProbably...EachoneaskedhimselfWhyMe?
Probably...EachoneansweredhimselfWhoelse?TheyknewTheywerethebest...The
obviouschoiceThen...afewhardymensetoutpreparingthemselvesPracticed
RehearsedPaintedeachotherblack,greenandmudPrayedtotheirGodsSpoke
homeasifallwasnormalHadsleeplessnightsKissedgoodbyetophotographsoftheir
dearones...AndJustafterdarkWhentheyhuddledfordeparturePeopledidntfind
thesameoldhardymenTheyfoundinsteadAbandoftransformedsoldiersSilentas
rocksDeeplyabsorbed...FocusedonwhatlayaheadTheyshonelikeGodsPeople
bowedinreverenceBidthemGodSpeedSawvictorywritlargeAndItallwent
preciselyContingencieswereabsorbed...TaskaccomplishedtothehiltTheyreturned
beforedawnReturnedSAFEfortheirlovedonesandasVICTORStothenationPeople
eruptedinjubilation...HardymentoodancedwithPeopleButthatdayWhenthey
spokehomeSomethingdifferenthappenedWithouttellinganythingMothergot
chokedWifecouldnotholdemotions.ToPeople'swonderTheysawthateachhardy
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SureYoucandowhatyouwanttodo!
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WrittenSep30
accordingtoarmythewholecrossborderactionwasrecordedbyUAV
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QuoraUser
WrittenOct1
AnyonewithproofsandlogicmayrespondtoproveIndiadidnotlie.
Thisarticlewrittenon29thSeptemberclaims"Thestrikes,whichincludedpara
commandosandhelicopters".
http://idrw.org/indiaproofsurg...
Buton30thSeptember,MinisterofStateforInformationandBroadcastingRajyavardhan
SinghRathore,himselfanexIndianArmyman,deniedthatanyhelicopterswereused.
visit
http://www.thehindu.com/todays...
Howillogicalitwillbetoretreatfromhelicopterusagewhenfirstclaimwasthatpara
commandosdidoperation.ThencriticismcamefrommilitarypersonswithingIndiathat
helicopterscannotdoanyactionwithoutbeingseenbyRADAR,keepinmindthatIndia
doesnothavestealthhelicopters.Helicopterstatementwaschanged.But,ifyouremove
helicoptersfromactionthenwhyparacommandoswereused?Itallgoesillogical.
Secondthing,Itwasclaimedthatproofthroughphotosandvideoswillbesharedinall
partiesmeeting.Butnowafterfewdaysnoproofpresented.Onalighternote:thismuch
timeissufficientforefficient3DAnimatortoevenmakeagoodqualityproof.
Third,theincidentwashappenedataplacetherewasnopersontowitness.Everythingin
mediamustcomefromonesourcei.e.IndianArmy.Whenthingscomefromonesource
thenthereisnodifferenceinit.But,allIndianchannelswerereportingdifferently.Classic
examplecanbeseenhere:
https://twitter.com/dailypaper...
Fourth,theyclaimthat"campsweredestroyedwithin2kmofLOC".Ifcampisdestroyed
thefireandsmokeremainsforhours.Suchfireandsmokecanbeseenbynakedeyefrom
2kmdistance.Ifnotnakedeye,agoodqualitycameracanshowsuchthingsclearly.So,if
SirJeeKalstrikeswererealthensimpleproofwouldhavebeenthosedestroyedcamps,
smokeandfireetc.
Andthelastoneandmostimportant...RajnathSinghstatedthatoneIndiansoldieris
capturedbyPakistan(inaseparateincident).SodearIndianArmy...accordingtoyour
claimsyouhavecapabilityofcrossingLoCanddoingcommandoactionsuccessfully.This
maybetheveryTestCaseofyourclaims.ComeandliberatethatIndiansoldier....wewill
allsaythatSirJeeKalStrikeswerereal.
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WhatistheGhatakplatoon(Indian
Army)?
WhydidthemightyIndianNavy
failtoprotectitsnavalbase
Dwarkaannihilatedbyatiny
flotillaofPakNavyinthe1965
war?
Whatisthemostdaringactdone
byIndianArmy?
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ManystorieswhichIhavereadhereareof
post1947era.ManymenoftheBritish
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Ghatakplatoonisjustaplatoon(about30
35men)ininfantryunits,whoareashade
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KaveeshKanwal,MilitaryHistoryand
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betterinphysicalfitnessthanothersanda
shadebetterintraining.Theseguysare
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IbelieveyourereferringtoOperation
Dwarka.LetsseetheobjectivesofPakistan.
AccordingtoWikipedia:
ThemissionobjectivesofPakistanNavy
arelistedbelow:
1.Todrawheavyenemyunitsouto...
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