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Was the trash left over from the womens march that awful? Or are
conservatives trying to nitpick anything to criticize the march?
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[]helloboots [score hidden] 43 minutes ago
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[]Pie_Gun [score hidden] 22 minutes ago
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[]helloboots [score hidden] 8 minutes ago
I don't really think Obama did anything when Russia annexed Crimea,
right?
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[]cynical_trill [score hidden] 2 minutes ago
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i read somewhere that every time we've tried being friends with them
in the past, putin tried to undermine our country or democracy again.
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[]GilmoreHappy [score hidden] 25 minutes ago
I always wonder the same thing. At one point Japan was one of our
most hated enemies, and now they are an ally. However, Putin has
some old school soviet blood in him, so I'm not cool with welcoming
him with open arms.
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[]helloboots [score hidden] 40 minutes ago
Woman here. I voted for him because I liked his policies, not because
of my identity as a woman. I'm more than content with my support.
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[]cascaderade [score hidden] 28 minutes ago
what are his policies? i don't recall him ever really explaining or stating
his policies.
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[]helloboots [score hidden] 15 minutes ago
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I didn't vote for him, but I never felt attacked by him either. Most of
what he says is common sense. If you let a lot of illegals in then the
country will turn into a shithole just like mexico...That's why I'm for
legal immigration with background checks. I know a lot of people with
criminal background from my country of origin who come over
legal/illegally, join gangs and ruing the city we(minorities) live in.
I have to deal with the shootings and stabbings day to day and live in
a high crime area but white people don't so they're like yea just let
them come on in without even checking who they are.
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[]PM_ME_MAMMARY_GLANDS [score hidden] 35 minutes ago
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Seriously, why don't democrats just come out and overthrow trump by
force and institute clinton as their rightful dictator? I mean, this is
what they want right? A dictatorship not a democracy?
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[]Pie_Gun [score hidden] 17 minutes ago
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Look, as screwy as our democratic system has gotten in the past few
years, it's still a democratic system. If I am OK with Obama getting
elected in 2012, I can't argue for a violent overthrow of Trump today.
Violence as a political tactic is generally deplorable, from an a priori
standpoint. My allegiance to Democracy is greater than my allegiance
to Democrats.
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[]ostentia [score hidden] 3 minutes ago
Yes, absolutely.
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Yes. I take voting very seriously and would never dream of not voting.
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I don't think they would admit to not voting. They aren't as stupid as
Colin Kaepernick.
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Women who feel marginalized by Trump, can you explain why you feel
that way?
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[]tollercoster56 [score hidden] 52 minutes ago
Aparently trump pointing out that promiscuous women who only care
about your money will consensually let you touch them anyway you
want as long as you give them money is sexist.
That's like saying....Oh yea prostitutes man...They'll let you put them
in any position you want for a couple of 100's then people saying that's
somehow sexist.
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[]helloboots [score hidden] 36 minutes ago
I'm really confused how people are saying his comment is him
"admitting he's a rapist".
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Anyone else notice Bill peeping at Ivanka? Even funnier that Hilary
noticed and Bill didn't even care
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[]Kusibu 1 point an hour ago
Just about everyone who browses Reddit did, thanks to the "savage"
GIF.
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Favorite joke I've seen come from that: "Get yourself a man that looks
at you the same way Bill Clinton looks at women that aren't his wife."
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[]Pie_Gun [score hidden] 13 minutes ago
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8/10
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[]Spudrockets [score hidden] 22 minutes ago
I contend that though all those actions are troubling (not here to argue
about most of them though) the most idealistically disturbing is the
Mattis one. He is setting a precedent (get it? Haw Haw) of military
leaders taking loyal to him taking posts that previously were controlled
by civilians. The rule he created an exception to was designed to
ensure that the upper leadership of the military (mostly the President,
who is not a military personality, but also the Sec. of Def.) were
civilians.
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[]helloboots [score hidden] 6 minutes ago
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[]helloboots [score hidden] 44 minutes ago
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There are parts of ACA that he wants to keep, such as keeping kids on
their parents insurance until they are 26, and not declining coverage of
pre-existing conditions. The ACA is extremely complex (as was
intended) and isn't something that can easily be repelled.
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[]helloboots [score hidden] 31 minutes ago
http://obamacarefacts.com/trumpcare-explained/
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1/10
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Did anyone else see the video where a security person appeared to be
asking Mrs. Gingrich for her pass or something? then the person
followed her as she (and he and another lady) walked into, through
and then outside to the inaugural platform, finally she stopped and
dug around in her purse. She handed something to her friend and then
the security person tucked it under his coat. I am NOT making this up.
I was watching CBS live. I know what I saw. It was like she didn't want
to give up whatever it was. A thermos, a can...? How can I find the
original broadcast, it's not just the swearing in.
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[]terriblegoat 2 points 1 hour ago
Gun
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[]Enzo-Unversed [score hidden] 54 minutes ago
No.
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The goal, in theory, is to show solidarity. They seem to have done that.
Whether you consider that to have done anything is up to debate.
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[]tollercoster56 [score hidden] 49 minutes ago
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[]Kusibu [score hidden] 34 minutes ago
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[]tollercoster56 [score hidden] 29 minutes ago
Enough people are rioting that I think using the word few is
misleading.
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[]Kusibu [score hidden] 9 minutes ago
jack shit to improve "solidarity", but they really don't deserve to drag
down the whole.
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The organizing before and meetups during are what will last - they
build networks of people who will coordinate in the future on less
showy but ultimately more effective projects.
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[]GilmoreHappy 2 points an hour ago
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[]tollercoster56 [score hidden] 48 minutes ago
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[]GilmoreHappy [score hidden] 38 minutes ago
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That's funny how Fox News and other right wing outlets thought
Obama was going to void term limits to keep the presidency for
another 4 years was possible. But Trump doing it is beyond belief. And
you don't get to have all the fun, I keep my arsenal and ammo well
stocked.
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[]GilmoreHappy [score hidden] 47 minutes ago
I literally never heard Fox, or other right wing news outlets talk about
him getting a 3rd term. I also do not follow extreme right-wing new
sources. But I see your point, you have guns too. Cheers to you.
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/07/obama-for-third-termcongressman-pushes-to-end-term-limits-for-us-presidency.html
I guess you missed this in your thorough watching of Fox News. I
guess it happens there's only so many hours in the day. And that's just
a quick two-minute google search.
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[]GilmoreHappy [score hidden] 34 minutes ago
Sorry, I don't regularly google search "Obama 3rd term president." I'm
not that paranoid. Also, that is from over 4 years ago...I guess I
maybe forgot about that story since it was so long ago.
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[]tollercoster56 [score hidden] 46 minutes ago
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[]r_roman -2 points 2 hours ago
Dictators killing anyone that openly opposes them wouldn't be the first
time.
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[]Kusibu [score hidden] 59 minutes ago
Except for Trump isn't a dictator. One of the main reasons the U.S. has
multiple branches of government is specifically so the President can't
become a dictator.
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[]r_roman 1 point an hour ago
Ok Big Pharm, I'll play ball who did Obama kill without a trail?
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[]Keep-reefer-illegal 4 points an hour ago
Big pharm?
Anyway, 4 people with American citizenship died by drone, However, 3
were just wrong place/wrong time, so I will not even bring up 3/4
Anwar al-Aulaqi was fighting for a terrorist organization (al-quada) at
the time of his droning. However, he was in Yemen at the time.
However, he was still an American citizen killed by the US government
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[]r_roman 1 point an hour ago
Correct. But that is a stretch from what I'm asking about. I fully think
that it would never happen because as someone pointed out it would
be bad for business. Just playing devils advocate though.
Big Pharm was just poking fun at your user.
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[]Keep-reefer-illegal 3 points an hour ago
I am not saying the guy was a saint, I know he is a piece of trash who,
if given the chance, would attempt to kill US military members.
But he is still the first American citizen killed by the government
purposefully without a trial since the civil war
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The public. There would be protests and riots and ultimately possibly a
civil war.
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[]r_roman 0 points 2 hours ago
Would we be hoping that our military doesn't take orders from them?
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[]natsandniners 1 point 2 hours ago
Well they may, but if the military took aggressive action against the
public, there would be a revolution (Syria as an example). There are
enough people that, even if the military fought against, would still
stage a civil war
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[]r_roman 2 points an hour ago
You may under estimate the largest military force in the world
controlled by the wrong man.
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[]Kusibu [score hidden] an hour ago
Mattis would not take Trump's shit if he turned on the United States.
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Not saying they would win, because the military would wipe out a
revolution in one fell swoop. However, you're also assuming that there
would be no insubordination or even discomfort on the part of the
military to take part in a dictatorship
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Has anyone else just been really happy since trump won? Like
everything is lining up just right?
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[]Pie_Gun [score hidden] 8 minutes ago
I have become a way more patriotic Canadian, and way more happy
with Prime Minister Trudeau, so in a way, yeah.
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I am concerned about what I saw on the white house official page roll back into fossil fuels (oh no no no) and greater military spending (I
mean US is already the strongest. Does it need to grow thrice as
much?)
And the rest is just cautiously optimistic.
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Well since I got accepted into MED school and got my scholarship, yes.
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[]Keep-reefer-illegal 0 points 2 hours ago
Congrats!
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So far yes
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Who honestly gives a flying fedora about how large the inauguration
crowd was? Was it larger or smaller than the one in 2012/2008? What
are the official reports?
That's right, there are none because no one decided: Hey, let's do a
headcount in case there's going to be a shitstorm about the crowd
number tomorrow. It must be a real slow news day if this is the only
thing that matters right now.
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[]Stranger0nReddit [score hidden] just now
People only care because the media reports on it and people think that
means they are supposed to care.
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It's mainly due to the "EVIL FASCIST TRUMP" hate train taking over
the report of it that showed up on /r/nottheonion recently. It is an
issue, and we shouldn't turn a blind eye to it, but at the same time
people are overreacting to an absurd degree.
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Trump needs to vilify the media, pass on the perception that the media
is fake news, that trump is the only source of real facts. If trump can
control the perception of truth it makes manipulating his base easier.
It's easier to spread falsehoods, and increasingly difficult to effectively
critize him.
Crowd size isn't the issue, the issue is the perception of truth and who
controls it.
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If Trump says he is "at war with the media" does that count as an
official Declaration of war?
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[]Alex_From_LMB 2 points 2 hours ago
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[]Donalf 14 points 2 hours ago
Now, people hate Trump for a variety of reasons. First and foremost,
many don't view him fit to be president: he has no previous career in
politics, and has some dubious success in his own private business
management. They view his twitter posts as extremely unprofessional,
and are critical of his sensational language and bold (yet vague)
claims. He seems to have some racist/xenophobic and sexist views,
which doesn't grant him much support there (although a decent
portion of ethnic minorities elected him). Finally, even some
republicans preferred that Ted Cruz would have been the Republican
candidate rather than Trump, so felt slightly cheated. Right now,
people are afraid of Trump because this mandate, the US congress is
predominantly republican and so will likely approve whatever bills he
passes, crazy or not. He also wants to undo most of the projects that
Obama struggled for years to pass in congress, like Obamacare.
Ok, now Hillary. People like her because she actually has political
experience: she was minister of foreign affairs a few mandates ago
and several claim that she was the true brains when her husband Bill
was president. She wanted more female equality and she would also
be the first female president of the USA (much like Obama was the
first coloured president), so her election would be seen by some as a
great leap forwards in gender equality. She is more politically correct
than Trump, and some simply miss the Clinton mandate.
Why don't all American's like Hillary? Because since she has political
history (unlike Trump), she also had a few scandals. There was the
Benghazi crisis where the US embassy there was taken hostage:
Hillary's inability to react as minister of foreign affairs meant that
some Americans did die. Likewise, there was the email scandal, where
she carried out some presumably illegal acts through her Government
email. Some view her as a candidate only willing to appease lobbyists
who funded her campaign (whilst Trump allegedly self-funded himself).
There are several more reasons for each of these sections. As a nonamerican, I tried to label some of the most prominent ones that came
to my mind from reading news/reddit and tried to make it as unbiased
as possible. Personally, I prefer Hillary only as a lesser of two evils, but
no candidate was a saint. In fact, I hope that the controversy of these
elections combined with any possible blunders committed by Trump
will be used by the American people to rethink their politically
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[]bradholtzer44 [score hidden] 37 minutes ago
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Okay guys what the worst possible outcome now trump is officially
president? (Be creative ;) )
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[]Pie_Gun [score hidden] 3 minutes ago
Giant alien heads show up in the sky shouting SHOW US WHAT YOU
GOT! El Presidente goes to talk to them, bungles it, and earth gets
destroyed.
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Some foreign country says that his hands are small, he gets pissed
and launches a nuke.
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[]ItsMeNotYouJustUs 2 points 1 hour ago
They attacked his hands, nobody has ever attacked his hands before,
I've never even heard of this before. Just look at his hands. Do they
look small to you?
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[]Scherezade_Jones 3 points 1 hour ago
I would think that's an optimistic view. I think worst case would be him
delivering on many of the things he has said. They aren't all dystopian
taglines, but enough of them are scary enough to make that a pretty
alarming prospect.
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[]Keep-reefer-illegal 2 points 1 hour ago
what is dystopian?
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I'm not a fan of Trump, but this Gigapixel view of the inauguration
really does show a packed crowd all the way back to the monument.
What am I missing? Is the media really lying to make him look worse?
Why would they lie when there's enough reality?
http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2017/01/politics/trumpinauguration-gigapixel/
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[]santijurk 1 point an hour ago*
That does make it look like there are more people than the sparse
aerial photo being compared to Obama's first inauguration.
However if you zoom in on the gigapixel the white structures at the
end are not actually at the base of the monument and you can still see
a fair amount of empty ground before those.
From the podium it might indeed look like the crowd goes all the way
back but that doesn't make it true.. Perspective is a powerful thing.
BBC article including aerial photo
** Edit to ask that if they really did have record breaking crowds, why
would the press secretary not just offer an aerial photo to back up
their claim?
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[]vodkaandponies 1 point 2 hours ago
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[]jBROMZ 2 points 2 hours ago
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[]Keep-reefer-illegal 0 points 2 hours ago
Not photoshopped, but many photos were taken before the actual
event.
It is also worth noting that the crowd was moved around due to two
entrances being shut down by violent thugs.
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[]vodkaandponies 4 points 2 hours ago
No, it only shows that the crowd reaches all the way to the
monument, JUST LIKE OBAMAS. Never said Trumps crowd was bigger
than Obamas, just calling out the media for deliberately comparing a
crowd during the speech with a crowd hours before speech in order to
make Trumps look much smaller than it actually was.
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[]vodkaandponies 2 points 2 hours ago
just calling out the media for deliberately comparing a crowd during
the speech with a crowd hours before speech in order to make Trumps
look much smaller than it actually was.
the photos were taken at the same time.
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[]jBROMZ 2 points 2 hours ago
Just in case you didn't get it the first time, and need proof including
the crowd with the president in the same picture, here you go.
You can do your mental gymnastics all you want, but this is already
proven wether you like it or not.
http://i.imgur.com/jhpqro4.jpg
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[]cascaderade [score hidden] 13 minutes ago
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It's a very different angle, you really have to take into account the
landmarks on the side then compare it to the uncropped overhead
shot. When you do that, the area that is full in that gigapixel image
actually only represents a portion, they put up a white temporary
structure that you can see doesn't normally sit there and in Obama's
inaguration pictures you can see the crowd extends beyond that even
when comparing a similar angle with the gigapixel image.
Overhead shot. You can also see that white building at the bottom of
this image as well, whereas the crowd clearly extends beyond that
same point in Obamas and beyond the edge of the frame.
Obama Megapixel image
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[]Phroneo 2 points 3 hours ago
But is there any merit to their claims of more security delaying people?
The Gigapixel picture clearly shows a packed crowd. This was probably
at a later time so they should show a comparison between the crowds
then. Maybe other nearby places too if it was less crowded this time. I
recall the trip statistics showed a large difference too so it does make
sense taht numbers were lower but the pics published everywhere
exaggerate the situation IMO.
When they make fun of Trump saying he could see crowds all the way
up to the monument, the Gigapixel image shows they are being
dishonest. Sure it wasn't the biggest crowd ever. That's silly to claim,
but I can't help but feel they are being partially dishonest.
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[]Keep-reefer-illegal 1 point 2 hours ago
But is there any merit to their claims of more security delaying people?
Yes. two entrances were shut down,
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But is there any merit to their claims of more security delaying people?
Not that i've seen.
This was probably at a later time so they should show a comparison
between the crowds then.
The pictures from Vox were taken at the same time, of the same
location, from the same vantage point.
When they make fun of Trump saying he could see crowds all the way
up to the monument, the Gigapixel image shows they are being
dishonest.
you can't see very well from the angle of the GP.
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[]TagProNoah 17 points 3 hours ago
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Boi, he cray
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahha
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[]Donalf 3 points 2 hours ago
You say this, but I have a friend who obnoxiously supports Trump in
any way possible. Like, I understand believing that he will deliver his
promises and that he is better than Hillary, but I knew this guy for
over 10 years and suddenly over the last 18 months he's turned into a
self-absorbed asshole who lashes aggressively like a 5 yo (literally
triggered in every sense of the word) every time someone so much as
does a side remark about Trump and his policies, whether that be in
real life or in cancerous facebook posts.
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Republicans of reddit, why don't you care about free speech when it's
anyone else?
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Much higher that you, as you throw your toys out the pram over a
simple joke.
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This is my take on the elections and what has occurred thereafter, it's
not a political rant as much as it is a plea toward structured reasoning.
My thoughts stemmed from the massive amount of misinformation and
outright stupidity I've seen on various social media sites. It is all too
easy to make an assumption of political affiliation, perspectives,
backgrounds, etc. It's just as easy to conform to one side or the other
based on popular demand and without any knowledge outside of basic
talking points. Somehow, we have lost the ability to reason as a
society. I'm not sure of the steps we can take to mitigate
disagreements and ultimately find common ground. Perhaps the Reddit
community can be a voice of reason lol.
I wasn't old enough to be fully present during the Bill Clinton nor GW
Bush presidency. In hindsight, there are a number of things both did
right and there are a number of things both did absolutely wrong. The
sunset bill and Patriot Act (the name is a misnomer), respectively, are
the first two that come to mind. But it is important to be critical of
anyone in such a high position of power. I was critical of Obama at
first. At the end of 8 years, there is little data to support the idea that
he was less than a good president. By nearly every measure, we are
better off now than during the Bush presidency. We are no longer in a
recession (which not only could have been prevented but would have
over the last 10 years or so. We used to travel by horse, think of that.
Similarly, we will one day produce energy in a new, cleaner, cheaper,
and innovative way.
I don't think people have as much of a problem with Trump himself, as
they do what he represents. It's the old saying "if you lay with dogs,
you're going to get fleas". Regardless of his personal views, you
cannot dispute that his movement gave birth to uprisings we all
thought were left in the distant past. It made unacceptable behavior
mainstream again. It sets a bad example solely based on perception.
Outside of that, his blatant disregard for science is almost astonishing.
You can also throw in all of the ridiculous statements we've heard, but
I digress. As far as the rest of the administration goes, I'm actually
surprised (and excited) to see Elon Musk being brought on. Same with
Mad Dog. Trying to be optimistic here, but the
credentials/integrity/competence of the rest are all more than
questionable, particularly DeVos. Side note, I'd 10-1 take Donald
Trump over Mike Pence. That should speak volumes.
Lastly opinions, religious beliefs or moral framework do not matter.
In any context of government or legal boundaries. Your rights end
where another's begin (be that in reference to gun ownership,
marriage equality, race, religion, sexual orientation, woman's rights,
etc.). If a potential or existing law violates any of the beliefs you hold but the law itself doesn't impact your personal rights - it doesn't (and
shouldn't) matter. This is America- Land of the Free- and not the land
of restriction.
I have no right to tell a woman what she can and cannot do with her
body, I have no right to tell someone who they can and cannot marry.
So on, and so fourth. Just like you have no right to tell me the specs of
a gun I choose to carry, nor tell me which religion is more acceptable
to follow. That isn't within your rights because your opinion absolutely,
under any circumstance, does not matter. Live and let live. That's my
take.
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[]othasodithasoidt 7 points 3 hours ago
At the end of 8 years, there is little data to support the idea that he
was less than a good president. By nearly every measure, we are
better off now than during the Bush presidency. We are no longer in a
recession (which not only could have been prevented but would have
also caused the worst depression in American history). Unemployment
is lower, the economy is stronger, GDP and household income are both
higher. Not to mention the advancements made in social equality.
You can't say a president is good or bad immediately after their term.
You are also giving obama a lot of positive benefit of the doubt. for
example, the national deficit is huge and the economy is stagnant. It
recovered from the recession but not by a huge amount. One of the
big reasons people support trump is the economy simply because the
economy really isn't that healthy. There is a decent amount of data
saying that obama wasn't that great for the economy. see: deficit,
interest rates, economic jump when trump got elected, spending
power of middle class dropping, ACA being an insurance companies
wet dream
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[]impartialcharles 3 points 2 hours ago
I gave him a lot of benefit of the doubt for the very reason why you
state his effectiveness can't be completely evaluated immediately
following his term. As it stands today there is no question that, by
most measures, the country is in better shape than what was left by
Bush.
Concerning national deficit, yes it is larger. I'm recalling from memory,
but with the exception of Bill Clinton, the deficit has grown under the
last 5 presidents. Albeit a higher under Obama. But as you stated, you
can't evaluate a president immediately following his term. The great
recession happen as Bush was leaving office. A strong argument can
be made that at least a portion of the debt added by Obama could be
due to the terrible economic condition he inherited. It takes years to
recover from such drastic conditions, we haven't fully recovered to this
day. That's condition is directly coordinated with the negligence of
several parties, all prior to Obama's first term. The Federal Reserve
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I disagree with your last paragraph concerning the gun thing. Access
to an abortion or same sex marriage has no effect on the people not
receiving an abortion or getting a same sex marriage. This is not true
for guns. They objectively have a huge impact on non-gun owners
(and other gun owners too for that matter). If it's concerning our
personal safety we absolutely have a right to an opinion on the specs
of your gun. It's not in the same category of debate
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[]impartialcharles 1 point 2 hours ago
Apply the same logic to a car. You have no right to tell me the car I can
drive, I have no right to tell you. There is an assumed risk in either
circumstance dependent on the driver (or gun owner). But owning a
particular car or carrying a particular gun does not come with a set of
inherent risk to anyone other than the owner of said object. Your
assumed risk stem from the owner or person responsible, not in the
object itself.
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[]geekmuseNU 1 point 3 hours ago
Until it leaves said safe, or it no longer becomes your gun. It's not just
an issue of trust in you (though that is a factor and accidents do
happen), it's an issue of trust in literally everyone who will potentially
end up interacting with it. Does it have an effect on me right this
second? Maybe not, that doesn't mean it won't
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[]impartialcharles 2 points 2 hours ago
I could potentially interact with too much water and end up drowning,
but I don't think we should limit the amount of water you keep in your
pool.
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[]gamedevelopersguild 3 points 3 hours ago
Yes I can. Gay marriage hasn't killed anyone. Abortion hasn't killed
anyone. Guns on the other hand kill quite a lot of people in the US
every year, a lot of whom aren't gun owners themselves
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[]impartialcharles 0 points 2 hours ago
with a gun. I referenced the specs of the gun, not the location in which
it can/cannot be carried.
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[]geekmuseNU [score hidden] 26 minutes ago
That's still an invalid comparison, guns are designed to kill and maim.
Tobacco is just designed to get you buzzed, it just has a lot of
damaging side effects. And besides, there is a hell of a lot of authority
over what exactly we can and can't smoke. The specs do matter, not
all guns are created equal, otherwise there wouldn't be different
varieties in the first place.
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[]EmoteSpammer 1 point 1 hour ago
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[]gamedevelopersguild [score hidden] 32 minutes ago
I'll admit, it's a bit much but the guy above was saying that Guns were
just up and deciding to kill people so... you know.
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I think the other thing that led to Trump's election actually was
Hillary's "deplorables" comment, or at least the culture it expressed.
Political correctness culture actually has gotten more extreme as of
late, actually as evidenced by South Park. So what Trump represents
more than any -isms you may accuse him of, is a complete rejection of
political correctness. The difference, though, between him and the rest
of the right, which should have disqualified him, is that he also lacks a
thing called tact. At this point, things started to steamroll. The left
would attack people for even associating themselves with Trump, and
this would only drive more people to him because of what he
represented. However, even if people were driven to him, they
certainly wouldn't want to admit it, because of cultural pressure. This,
along with the server scandal, is what led to 3rd party candidates,
such as Gary Johnson, polling as high as 10%. This is when the left
made their critical mistake. The relative lack of public support for
Trump lulled them into a false sense of security, and Hillary stopped
trying. As a result, they weren't able to convince those moderates they
had once scared into Trump's arms to vote for her again. So even
though the polls may have shown it was in the bag for the left, a silent
block rose up in November to win the election for Trump.
This is why people's actions after the election are so concerning. Yes, I
get that people are upset and understand why they march. But actions
like Shia LaBeouf starting a continual livestream until Trump is out of
office, kicking New Wave Feminists out of the march for being pro-life,
and representatives refusing to even attend the man's inauguration
are only fueling the flames of this political divide which got the man
into office.
As described in the election megathread:
Weve seen this before in 2008 when, after feeling voiceless and
marginalized for the better part of a decade, those who chose not to
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[]vodkaandponies 1 point 3 hours ago
there were people at Trump rallies chanting "she's a cunt, vote for
Trump!" and wearing shirts saying "Trump that bitch!" with pictures of
Hillary being punched in the face.
The deplorable's comment was pretty accurate in that regard.
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[]Kell08 2 points 2 hours ago
I didn't want Trump to win, but you can find many individuals acting
that way supporting any candidate. It doesn't mean "deplorable" would
apply to the majority of the people supporting a candidate.
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[]vodkaandponies 3 points 2 hours ago
And Clinton never said all the Trump supporters were deplorables.
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[]RazarTuk 2 points 2 hours ago
If you demonize the people you disagree with, label them as racists,
sexists, and oppressors and insist any and all of their successes are a
result of some unearned "privilege," they will create a counterrevolution.
I'm not trying to defend those Trump supporters who truly are
deplorable. But when you lump everyone else in with them, just
because they hate Trump slightly less than your own candidate, that's
when you lose an election.
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[]vodkaandponies 2 points 2 hours ago
At the very best, you are still enabling the worst people like that by
sticking with him.
I've yet to see a single trump supporter call out the sexism and bigotry
shown by so many.
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[]House_Bitch 1 point 4 hours ago
Well said.
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[]impartialcharles 1 point an hour ago
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This comment had 0 points when I saw it. Who downvotes something
as simple as "Well said"?
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[]House_Bitch 0 points 2 hours ago
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[]impartialcharles 1 point 1 hour ago
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With America about to implode which states could end up seceding and
joining Canada as a new province?
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[]clashFury 0 points 3 hours ago*
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[]SJWs_can_SMD 2 points 2 hours ago
which states
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New England, and NYC
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[]clashFury [score hidden] 28 minutes ago
What?
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[]SJWs_can_SMD [score hidden] 4 minutes ago
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[]Pie_Gun 1 point 3 hours ago
Ah shit we are gunna have to build a wall to keep out the Americans
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[]Kell08 2 points 2 hours ago
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[]Pie_Gun 1 point an hour ago
Fine, we will pay for it, but you will pay us back!...
Maybe it will be a fence.
It will be a glorious fence though.
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its actually hilarious how much some people are sore losers about the
whole election process.
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[]gamedevelopersguild 1 point 3 hours ago
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[]RanchDressinInMyButt 1 point an hour ago
Major cities often have a more diverse crowd in terms of race, social
economic background, and culture. And I'd say these people flock
there because there are more opportunities there(better jobs, better
education).
Whereas in rural America you tend to have only white people. They
aren't surrounded by a diverse collection of all of the above. While I
don't think they are inherently racist, they simply don't understand the
struggle that different races/cultures face. It is hard to empathize
when you don't understand.
It is sort of like how not all that long ago, gay marriage and gay people
were still pretty hush hush and looked down upon. Then when the
LGBT crowd started having representation in media and entertainment
it helped shift the opinion of the nation. Because it gave all these
people who never had experiences with gay people before experiences
with them.
They finally saw them as normal people who had normal problems,
normal fears, normal failures, normal triumphs.. you get the picture.
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Because there are more types of people in cities. People living there
meet the people Trump is scapegoating and realise that they aren't
actually bad people.
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[]othasodithasoidt -4 points 3 hours ago
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[]gamedevelopersguild 5 points 3 hours ago
Well, I hope you get what you asked for in your president
(http://www.areyousorryyet.com/)
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