ATU Audi Technical Updates

Automatic Rear Lid

Contents: Technical actions
Body

No. Event Topic Type/model

1 03/10 Automatically activated rear lid A6

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Technical actions
Automatically activated rear lid A6 Avant from MY09, Q7 MY10

Status display in the status display in the

measured value blocks address word 6D control
unit J605, address word 46 control unit J393
A Affects tester software up to brand CD 17.19
B
In the address word 6D control unit J605 measured
value block 12, the status of the microswitch rotary
latch for the rear lid lock is shown in the display
value 1 -A-.
In display value 2 -B- the status of the power
latching system is not displayed as shown. Instead,
you will see the status of the locking pawl
microswitch for the rear lid lock.
The status of the power latching systems for the
luggage compartment is only shown correctly in the
address word 46 control unit J393 measured value
block 13 display value 2 -C-.
C
Display 01 means the power latching system is
retracted (final position: power latching system
down).
Display 10 means the power latching system is
protracted (final position: power latching up).

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Technical actions
Automatically activated rear lid A6 Avant from MY 09

Rear lid unlocked, does not open

A automatically (sporadically).
No diagnostic memory entry available.
B Cause:
1) Incorrect connector housing installed -A-
with only one diode -B- in the rear lid lock
4L0 827 505 (for automatic rear lid).

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Technical actions
Automatically activated rear lid A6 Avant from MY 09

Rear lid unlocked, does not open automatically

(sporadically).
No diagnostic memory entry available.
Technical background:
2) The wrong rear lid lock for manual rear lids was
installed in vehicles with automatically activated rear
lids in production.
In both cases, comfort control unit J605 does not
detect that the rear lid lock is unlocked when the
rotary latch is lightly resting on the striker pin. The
signal from the microswitch for the rotary latch is
imported.
The complaint usually occurs if the rear lid is not
opened for a longer period of time.
(Settling behaviour of rear lid seal).

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Technical actions
Automatically activated rear lid A6 Avant from MY 09

Rear lid unlocked, does not open

A automatically (sporadically).
No diagnostic memory entry available.
B Series production:
1) New testing station in the assembly line of
the rear lid lock manufacturer.
From January 2009, vehicle no. 4F9N031000
2) Additional labelling of the containers
in production with worker instructions.
From May 2009, vehicle no. 4F9N06200

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Technical actions
Automatically activated rear lid A6 Avant from MY 09

Rear lid unlocked, does not open

automatically (sporadically).
No diagnostic memory entry available.
C
Action:
1 and 2 Please read out the status of the lock
from the measured value block 12 in the
address word 6D control unit J605 in display
value 1. After unlocking the rear lid, open --
must appear immediately. If the closed is
displayed despite the rear lid being unlocked
-D- and the status changes to open when the
rear lid is raised, the problem is caused by
D the rear lid lock. Replace the rear lid lock.
Part number 4L0 827 505.

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Technical actions
Automatically activated rear lid A6 Avant from MY 09

Rear lid unlocked, does not open

automatically (sporadically).
E
No diagnostic memory entry available.
Action:
2) Please check which rear lid lock is
installed in the vehicle. The part number is
engraved on the metal housing -E-. It is best
to remove the lock to read the number. The
lock with part number 4L0 827 505 must be
installed in vehicles with an automatically
activated lid. If a lock with part number 8K9
827 505 has been installed, replace it with a
new rear lid lock with part
number 4L0 827 505.

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Technical actions
Automatically activated rear lid A6 Avant from MY 09

Rear lid does not unlock, open and close

automatically.
No diagnostic memory entry available.
Technical background:
1) Interruption in the cabling from Pin 3 on
control unit J 756 for the right rear lid drive to
Pin 2 on the rear lid lock.
2) Microswitch for the locking pawl faulty.
The drives are unable to detect that the
locking pawl in the rear lid lock is open.
No automatic drive movement is triggered.
Series production:
---

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Technical actions
Automatically activated rear lid A6 Avant from MY 09

Rear lid does not unlock, open and close

automatically.
No diagnostic memory entry available.
A Action:
Please read out the status of the microswitch
for the power latching system from the
measured value block 12 in the address word
6D control unit J605 in display value 2 (these
show the status of the microswitch for the
locking pawl). After unlocking the rear lid,
(open) -A- must appear immediately. If the
status is shown as (closed) -B- when the rear
lid is unlocked, there is a problem with the
C
B
cabling or the microswitch for the locking
pawl.

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Technical actions
Automatically activated rear lid A6 Avant from MY 09

Rear lid does not unlock, open and close

automatically.
No diagnostic memory entry available.
Action:
1) Check/repair the cabling from Pin 3 on
control unit
J 756 right rear lid drive to Pin 2 on the rear
lid lock.
Note:
The Audi A6 current flow diagram on page
SLP 130/13 is wrong! Change for MY 11
Use the Q7 current flow diagram no. 70/31 as
an aid.
2. Check the switching stages for the locking
pawl microswitch between Pin 3 and Pin 2 on
the rear lid lock. If there is no change during
locking/unlocking, the rear lid lock is the
cause. Replace the lock.

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Technical actions
Automatically activated rear lid A6 Avant, Q7

Rear lid does not open fully; remains

approx. 15 cm below its maximum
opening height.
No diagnostic memory entry available.
Technical background:
The customer cannot get the rear lid to open
to its maximum opening height by
programming the button. The maximum
programmable height should also suffice, as
both gas struts should push the lid up for the
remainder of the height (approx. 15 cm) due
to the play in the drive system. The lift power
for the gas struts specified at SOP for
vehicles with automatically activated rear lids
is no longer sufficient to push the rear lid into
its final position (particularly when ambient
temperatures are very cold and the gas struts
lose lift power during their lifecycle).

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Technical actions
Automatically activated rear lid A6 Avant, Q7

Rear lid does not open fully; remains

approx. 15 cm below its maximum
opening height.
No diagnostic memory entry available.
Series production:
There are new, modified gas struts to
eradicate this problem.
A6 Avant: lift power increased from 550 N to
600 N.
From June 2008, vehicle no. 4F78N136511
Q7: lift power increased from 525 N to 560 N.
From July 2008, vehicle no. 4L9D000001

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Technical actions
Automatically activated rear lid A6 Avant, Q7

Rear lid does not open fully; remains

approx. 15 cm below its maximum
opening height.
No diagnostic memory entry available.
Action:
A6 Avant:
Install two new gas struts, part number 4F9
827 552 E with increased lift power.
Q7:
Install two new gas struts, part number 4L0
827 552 F with increased lift power.
Parts store now only supplies gas struts with
increased lift power.

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Technical actions
Automatically activated rear lid A4 Avant, Q5

Power consumption from the power latching system motor

Rear lid opens automatic, does not close
V120 automatically, must be closed by hand
Diagnostic memory entry available.
A Technical background:
The power latching system stops in an
unspecified position. Therefore, the rear lid
0 control unit J605 does not receive the signal
"power latching system protracted" when the
rear lid is open.
Sometimes there is also a diagnostic memory
entry in the address word 6D:
Code 2364 power latching system
8-implausible signal
The rear lid can no longer be closed
electrically due to this missing signal.
It can only be closed by hand.

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Technical actions
Automatically activated rear lid A4 Avant, Q5

Rear lid opens automatic, does not close

automatically, must be closed by hand
Diagnostic memory entry available.
Technical background:
2) Microswitch F332 -A- for indicating the
status "power latching system protracted"
jams because the actuator is positioned
incorrectly in the microswitch. The control
unit J605 does not receive the signal "power
latching system protracted" when the rear lid
is open. Diagnostic memory entry in the
address word 6D:
Code 2364 power latching system
8-implausible signal
The rear lid can no longer be closed
electrically due to this missing signal. It can
only be closed by hand.

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Technical actions
Automatically activated rear lid A4 Avant, Q5

Rear lid opens automatic, does not close

automatically, must be closed by hand
Diagnostic memory entry available.
Series production:
1) Optimized software for control unit J393 in
use.
Q5:
From October 2009, vehicle no. 8RAA040257
A4 Avant:
From November 2009, vehicle no. 8KAA081700

2) Restriction of the actuator incline

Change of microswitch supplier: from EMS to
Cherry.
Integration in series production planned from
May 2010

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Technical actions
Automatically activated rear lid A4 Avant, Q5

Rear lid opens automatic, does not close

Power consumption from the power latching system motor automatically, must be closed by hand
V120 Diagnostic memory entry available.
A
Action:
1. Flash control unit J393. Open the function
0 problem-related update and SVM code
"B846A006" in address word 46.
See TSB 2021372

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Technical actions
Automatically activated rear lid A4 Avant, Q5

Customer is unable to change the setting for the

opening height of the automatically activated
rear lid
Diagnostic memory entry available.
Technical background:
EEPROM fault in the master control unit on
the left rear lid drive prevents the opening
height from being programmed via the
buttons on the rear lid trim. The fault is
caused by an internal timeout error, which is
entered in the memory in the event of
increased communication.
Diagnostic memory entry in the address word
6D: SAE code 16347 Control unit
14-faulty
This diagnostic memory entry cannot be
deleted in service. Once this has been
entered, the customer can only alter the
height once.

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Technical actions
Automatically activated rear lid A4 Avant, Q5

Customer is unable to change the setting

for the opening height of the
automatically activated rear lid
Diagnostic memory entry available.
Series production:
Optimised software SW290 in use
A4 Avant:
From March 2009, vehicle no. 8K9A210000
Q5:
From March 2009, vehicle no. 8R9A028650

Action:
Replace both rear lid drives.
Obtain the part number relating to the vehicle
version from the electronic parts catalogue.
Parts store now only supplies rear lid drives
with optimised software.

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Automatically activated rear lid, A8, new

Gas strut and spring on

Drive on both sides
one side

Control unit
on one side

Power latching system

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Automatically activated rear lid, A8, new

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 Content

Automatically activated rear lid, A8, new

Drive on one side

Hybrid actuation hinges with traditional spring and gas strut
25% of the power required to move the rear lid on an A8 type 4E
Closing speed approx. 3.5 s
Drive is decoupled via metal/rubber parts
Adopts the tried and tested "A6 Avant mechanics"
Group control unit separate to drive

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 Content

Automatically activated rear lid, A8, new

4H0.827.705
The current list of add-on parts Seal

2x Z stops

4E0.827.657
4H0.827.299/300 Securing part
Hinge

2x Y stops
4E0.827.574 B
Handle trim assembly 4H0.880.701
4H0.827.551 + USA Manual release
2x gas struts

4H0.971.821/822
Cable guide

4K9.827.505
Lock
4H0.827.383
Cover actuation
4H0.827.249
2x springs
2x stops, bottom
4H0.827.851/852
Hinge drive
M equipment

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Thank you.

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