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ThenexttimeyouarestuckinaconversationonwhetherIndiawasruledbyoppressiveMuslimkingsornot,whetherHinduswereconverteden
massetoIslaminmedievalIndia,justRichardEatonthephenomenonandyouwillgetyouranswers

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RichardEaton,HistorianPhoto:
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RichardEatonistheWikipedia,theGoogleand,manywouldargue,thelastwordonmedievalandIslamichistoryinIndia.Hisbibliographyistoovast
tolist,butthevastrepertoireincludesIslamicHistoryAsGlobalHistory,TheRiseofIslamandtheBengalFrontier,12041760andSocialHistoryof
theDeccan,13001761:EightIndianLives.AfterthedestructionoftheBabriMasjidandamyriadspeculativeconversationsaroundhowmany
templesMuslimrulershaddestroyedinIndia,Eatondecidedtocount.ThatbecameabooktitledTempleDesecrationandMuslimStatesinMedieval
India.Inotherwords,heisthebestmythbusterthereisandthatspreciselywhathedidtotheaudiencesatTHiNK.Eatonexplainswhyitscrucial
todayforustogetourhistoryright.Especiallyontheperiodhewritesabout.

EDITEDEXCERPTSFROMANINTERVIEW

YouarenowworkingonamagnumopushistoryofmedievalIndia,oftenconstruedastheMuslimperiod.Canyouexplainwhythe
descriptorMuslimperioddoesntworkforyou?
ThebookImworkingonnowiscalledTheLionandtheLotus.ThelionrepresentsPersiaandtheLotus,India.Itsthestoryoftwointersecting
megapolisesPersianandSanskrit.TheideaistoescapethetrapoflookingatthisperiodastheendlessanddrearychapterofHinduMuslim
interaction,ifnotconflict,whichistheconventionalandhistoricallywrongapproach.

Canyouexplainwhythisishistoricallywrong?
Becausereligionisanachronistic.Contemporaryevidencedoesnotsupporttheassumptionthatreligionwastheprimarysignorindicatorofcultural
identity.Thatisabackprojectionfromthe19thand20thcenturies,whichisnotjustifiedbytheevidence.Forexample,awordthatwastypicallyused
todescriberulerswhocamefrombeyondtheKhyberPasswasnotmusalmaanbutratherTurushkaorTurk.Anethnic,notreligious,identity.Whats
fascinatingisthattheearlyTurkishrulers,theGhaznavids,beganasforeignersandconquerorsovertime,theywerebehavingmoreandmorelike
Rajputdynasties.LikeMahmudofGhazni,forinstance.HetookthebasiccredoofIslamThereisnogodbutAllahtranslatedthatintoSanskrit
andputitdownonthecoinagetobefreelymintedinnorthwesternIndia.ItwasanattempttotakeArabicwordsandstructurethemintoSanskrit
vocabulary.Thisisahistoryofassimilationandnotimposition.InVijayanagarintheDeccan,youwillfindthatmostofthegovernmentbuildingswere
builtwitharchesanddomes.Youthinkyouareinsideamosquebutyouarenot.VijayanagarhadHindukings.Thismeansthattheaestheticvisionof
IranhasseepedintoIndiasomuchnowthatitsacceptedasnormal.

Whataboutthemassesinthisperiodfrom1000to1800AD,whowereHindu?
Okay,letstalkaboutordinarypeople.YoufindthatlanguageslikeTelugu,Bengali,KannadaandMarathihaveabsorbedahugeamountofPersian
vocabularyforeverydayconcerns.TakeanotherexamplefromtheVijayanagarempireinthesouth.ItalkaboutsouthIndiabecausethatswhere
Islamdidnothaveaslongapenetrationasinthenorth.TheVijayanagarkingshadtheselongaudiencehallsdescribedashundredcolumnand
thousandcolumnpalaceshazaarsatoon.AconceptthatgoesallthewaybacktoPersepoliswhereyouliterallydohaveahundredcolumns.You
takethefloorplanofPersepolis,Iran,inthe4thcenturyBC,whichispreIslamic,andplaceitsidebysidewiththefloorplanofapalaceat
Vijayanagar.Itsexactlythesame.NeitherwasbuiltbyMuslims.PersepoliswasbuiltbyZoroastriansinthe3rdor4thcenturyBC.AndVijayanagar
wasbuiltbyHindusinthe14thcenturyAD.Neitherhasanythingtodowithreligion,butbothhaveeverythingtodowithpower.Itslikethepresent
dayspreadofCocaColaorTuborgbeer.Itsaspirationalbutnotreligious.Anditallhappensoveraperiodoftime.

Whichiswhyyoualsodontliketheuseofthewordconversionsforthisperiod?Yousayconversionssuggestapancakelikeflip,which
isnothowIslamspread.Whatdoyoumeanbythat?
Ihatetheuseofthewordconversions.WhenIwasstudyingthegrowthofIslaminPunjab,IcameacrossafascinatingtextontheSialcommunity.It
tracestheirhistoryfromthe14thtothe19thcentury.Ifyoulookatthenamesofthesepeople,youwillfindthatthepercentageofArabicnames
increasedgraduallybetweenthe14thand19thcenturies.Intheearly14thcentury,theyhadnoArabicnames.Bythelate14thcentury,5percenthad
Arabicnames.Itsnotuntilthelate19thcenturythat100percenthadArabicnames.So,theidentificationwithIslamisagradualprocessbecausethe
nameyougiveyourchildreflectsyourethosandtheculturalcontextinwhichyoulive.Thesameholdstruewhenyoulookatthenameassignedto
god.Inthe16thcentury,thewordsMuslimsinBengalusedforgodwerePrabhuorNiranjanetcSanskritorBengaliwords.Itsnotuntilthe19th
centurythatthewordAllahisused.InbothPunjabandBengal,theprocessofIslamisationisagradualone.Thatswhythewordconversionis
misleadingitconnotesasuddenandcompletechange.Allyourpreviousidentitiesarethrownout.Thatsnothowithappens.Whenyoutalkabout
anentiresociety,youaretalkingaboutaverygradual,glacialexperience.

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Youalsoexaminedatlengththedestructionoftemplesinthisperiod.Whatdidyoufind?
ThetemplediscourseishugeinIndiaandthisissomethingthatneedstobehistoricised.Weneedtolookatthecontemporaryevidence.Whatdothe
inscriptionsandcontemporarychroniclessay?WhatwassostrikingtomewhenIwentintothatprojectafterthedestructionoftheBabriMasjidwas
thatnobodyhadactuallylookedatthecontemporaryevidence.Peoplewerejustsayingallsortsofthingsaboutthousandsoftemplesbeing
destroyedbymedievalMuslimkings.Ilookedatinscriptions,chroniclesandforeignobserversaccountsfromthe12thcenturyuptothe18thcentury
acrossSouthAsiatoseewhatwasdestroyedandwhy.Thebigtemplesthatwerepoliticallyirrelevantwereneverharmed.Thosethatwerepolitically
relevantpatronisedbyanenemykingoraformerlyloyalkingwhobecomesarebelonlythosetemplesarewipedout.Becauseintheterritory
thatisannexedtotheState,allthepropertyisconsideredtobeundertheprotectionoftheState.Thetotalnumberoftemplesthatweredestroyed
acrossthosesixcenturieswas80,notmanythousandsasissometimesconjecturedbyvariouspeople.NoonehascontestedthatandIwrotethat
article10yearsago.

EventhehistoryofAurangzeb,yousay,isbadlyinneedofrewriting.
Absolutely.Letsstartwithhisreputationfortempledestruction.Thetemplesthathedestroyedwerenotthoseassociatedwithenemykings,butwith
Rajputindividualswhowereformerlyloyalandthenbecomerebellious.AurangzebalsobuiltmoretemplesinBengalthananyotherMughalruler.

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PralayKumarTewarySaintPaul'sCMCollege,Kolkata
Thiscreaturecalled'RichardEaton'isanevangelistandBaptist.Soit'sjustwasting
timetoutterlogictohim.Justtakeotheropinionsasyouknowhowtosurfinternet.
LikeReply 5Jul30,20154:07amEdited

KaushikSarker
Heisamarxisttryingtosaveindianproislamicmarxists'asses.
LikeReply 1Jan4,20161:45amEdited

AhiSubashShrideviinstituteofmedicalsciences
..thenmydearauthor..withallrespectmayiaskonequestion..thenwhathappendto
ourtemples??youthinkthatthoseweredestroyedbyanynaturalcalamity..oryou
thinkitdissapearedoneday??
LikeReply 3Sep7,20153:32am

MeenaMehta
Abiglie.IslamicinvasionofIndiawasmostbloodiedinhumanhistory.Islamic
sourcesgivesdetailedaccount.
https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/.../freebookin.../
http://www.speakingtree.in/.../destructionofhindu...
http://www.aurangzeb.info/
LikeReply 3Sep13,20159:39pm

AbdulHaqRiyadh,SaudiArabia
Onethingwillbeforgottenwhilecommentingonsucharticlesisthatwhetherallthat
wasdonewaspartofone'sreligiousbelieforanactofpowerplaybyinvaderswho
happenedtobemuslim.OnecanfindsimilarargumentsagainsttheHinduswhenit
comestoBudhistshrinesetc.
LikeReply 1Sep21,201512:13pm

KaushikSarker
"Whenaknavewritesabook,heissoonfollowedbyabunchoffools."
Dr.KoenraadElst
LikeReply 1Jan4,20161:36am

RamanAlBeruniSehgalUniversityofKarachi
HereistherebuttaltoEaton'sbook:
http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/art.../ayodhya/eaton.html

IwouldlovetoreadtoreadtherebuttaltoDr.Elstwriteup.

Intruesensethisishowthescholarshipgrows.
LikeReply 1Feb25,20164:56pm

SantoshSakhareSvyasaYogaUniversity
itshardtobelievethatenemyHinduStatescoulddestroyHinduworshipplacesfor
politicaladvantage.OnlyAbrahamicshavebeendoingsuchactsacrosstheworld
andtilldate
LikeReplyApr11,20162:52pm

RyteshVishwakarmaTechnicalSupport(VOIP)atSkytelTeleServicesPvt.Ltd.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Hindus
https://en.wikipedia.org/.../Conversion_of_nonMuslim...
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bhoja3yearsago
>Whenaknavewritesabook,heissoonfollowedbyabunchoffools.EatonmanagestofindonlyahandfulofHinducasesofdestructionofatempleor
abductionofitsmainidol,asmallfractionofthenumberofIslamicidoldestructionsthatevenhehasnooptionbuttoadmit.Thoughhisrandomlistof
Islamictempledestructionsallowsforonlysome80campaigns,thenumberof80whichEatonsfollowersbandyabout,iswoefullyinaccurate.Thus,
EatonhimselfcountsasonecasethethousandfoldtempledestructioninVaranasibyMohammedGhoristroopsin1194,sothese80casesreally
affectedthousandsoftemples.<

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OneonlyneedstoreadtheoriginalIslamicsourcesthatgleefullyrecordthedescriptionofthousandsofHindutemples,themassacreofcountlessnon
believersinaviddetail.Oneonlyneedtolookattheoriginal"firmans"issuedbyAurangzebcallingfordestructionofalltemples,murderofthepriests,to
seehisbigotryinfullflow.Thedataisthereforalltosee,oneonlyneedstoreadtheworksofElliotandDawson,Lal,Elst,Goel,Sewell,Mazumdar,
Sarkar,Shastri,etc.Theirbooksareallfreelyavailableontheinternet.UnfortunatelyforthelikesofEatonandtheirsepoys,thankstothepowerofthe
internetandthedemocratizationofinformation,theirwhitewashingdoesn'treallyfoolanyoneexpecttheideologicallyblind.
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harkol>bhoja3yearsago
IfMr.EatonreallywantedtoseehowmanytemplesweredestroyedbySunniMuslimRulersinSouthIndia,hejustneedstomaketriptoHampi!
Evenwithinadayhe'dknowhowsavagetheirthoughtprocesswent.Theyleftnothingintact.Eachandeverytemple(therearehundredsthere)
weredestroyedwiththeiridolsbroken(sonomoreworshipcanhappen,asinHindutraditionabrokenidolisnotworshipped).
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Inquisitiveindian3yearsago
DidRichardEatonorTehelkaeditorsEVERreadtheBookwrittenby"DomingosPaes",orchroniclesofNUNIZorFIRISHTAH???ThesearePeople
wholivedinthe14thCentury,WITNESSEDthebarbarianismofIslamicRulers&havechronicledeverythingintheirBooks.IfyouthinkIamlyingthen
googlesearch&readthebookswrittenbytheaboveIslamicscholars.DONOTWHITEWASHHISTORY.FACEIT.
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Ravi3yearsago
IcompletelydisagreewithRevatiandagreewithBhojaonthetheorythatonly80templesweredestroyed.MahmudofGhaznimade17raidsacross25
years.AncientcitieslikeUjjainandKannaujweresacked.AndthisisnotcountingevenwhatTimurdidtotheHindusofDelhi.
Oftheapprox600yearsofMuslimrule(12001800),IbelievethatIndiasawonlyaround100yearsof"liberal"ruleunderAkbartoShahJahan.
Theauthorseriouslyneedstobrushupherelementarymathskills.
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djohnyas21>Ravi3yearsago
InthecurrentimageofIslamperceivedbyothers,destructionofatemple(orthematteroffact,anyplaceofworshipfromotherreligions)shouldbe
agloriousissue.Ifthatistrue,ithastobedocumentedbythosewhohavedestroyedit,andifitissuchagloriousthing,suchclaimswouldevenbe
exaggeratedbythesamerulers.Areyouawareofsuchdocumentedevidences?Iamsimplycuriousandnottakingsides,justwanttoknowthe
truth.
Also,MrEatonispointingtowardsMuslimruleandnotMusliminvaders.
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shashank3yearsago
Itwouldbenicetoknowwhatsourceswereusedtomaketheseclaims.Thehindutvavadishaveonelegitimategrousethatthehistoryofthattimeis
mostlyreconstructedusingpersiansources,soitstandstoreasonthatthereisapossiblecounternarrative.Itwouldbenice,infactahugeservicetothe
nation,iflearnedhistorianscanwriteaccessibleandcleararticlesforthecommonpublicthatonceandforalldemolishthemythoftempledestruction,
forcedconversionsetc.
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Guest>shashank3yearsago
Thisisnothistory:Thisisanarrationofanalternativeopinionthathasbeenprovenwrongoverandoverseveraltimes.

Whenconfrontedaboutmellowingdowntherealty,congressandcommisalwayshaveoneanswer:wedidittopromotegreaterharmonyinthe
newIndia.

Whereistheharmony?andwhereisthenewIndia?
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Nazim>shashank3yearsago
SupportthethoughtsofShashankthatthistopicshouldberesearchedandbringoutthetruthtothepublic.Thiswouldsurelyleadtopeaceinour
country,reducingthehatredamongthepeoplebetween2communities.
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DREDR>shashank3yearsago
Thisisjustabriefinterviewforthepopularpress,rehashingEaton'swork.Notreallyanythingnewhere.Anyway,hisisapretty
standardpoco&p.c.historiography.Readhisacademicarticleson
thesesubjectsforfootnotes(e.g."TempleDesecrationandIndoMuslim
States"&"Shrines,Cultivators,andMuslim'Conversion'inPunjab
andBengal").Hedoesveryseriousprimarysourcescholarshipasfaras
anyonecansee.ThoughIdon'treadmuchPersianorSanskritmyself,all
themedievalhistoriansIknowtakehimveryseriously,evenifthey
haveafewquibbles...
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Truthnobs3yearsago
Pastdoesmatterbutwecannotchangeit.Thequestionnowishowdoweterminatethevermingoingforward.
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Manali3yearsago
Tehelkapeople,WhydontyouInvitehimtoIndia,Wewillwalkhimthroughdestroyedtemplesandtemplesconvertedmosques.Thatwillgivehimbetter
ideathanarmchairresearch.Alsoplzdontyoufindsomethingmorerealisticwritertowriteforyou?
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ideathanarmchairresearch.Alsoplzdontyoufindsomethingmorerealisticwritertowriteforyou?
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HimanshuMehta3yearsago
Ratherinterestingtakehere,Revati.Helpsburststhemythsoftenperpetratedbyrightwinghatemongers.
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Kavitha3yearsago
Thisshouldnotturnouttobeareligiouswaratall.Firstofall,whatsaretheartifactsthatledtothisfinding?Somanyreligioustextshavegonemissing
claimsaHindu,againwheredoyoutracebackthisfact?

Also,ifonlynameswerebeingchangedtoArabnames,whydidtheirreligionchangeaswell.ThiscontradictstheexistenceofMuslims/Christiansinthe
Indiansubcontinent.Thereligionsdidnotoriginatehere,sohowelsedidpeoplewanttoconvertunlessitwasimposed?
Goingback,acommentheresaysaboutTipuSultandestroying1000temples,butthefactremainsthathe'sconstructedthestructuralfortinthetownof
Palakkad,KeralawhichhastheshrineofSriHanuman.ThiswasbuiltforTipuSultanswifewhowasaHindu.Soeverythingseemscontradictory.

ThenweshouldalsolookatTalibandestroyingBuddha'smonumentsinAfghanistan?Whythelackoftolerating/acceptingotherreligionsandwayoflife?
Yesglorifyingone'sreligionaccepted,butsayingoneisabovetheotheriswhatleadstocommunaltensions.Theideologyneededhereis"LiveandLet
Live"
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StGallen>Kavitha3yearsago
@Kavita

"Goingback,acommentheresaysaboutTipuSultandestroying1000temples,butthefactremainsthathe'sconstructedthestructuralfortinthe
townofPalakkad,KeralawhichhastheshrineofSriHanuman.ThiswasbuiltforTipuSultanswifewhowasaHindu.Soeverythingseems
contradictory."

Rereadyourowncomment.
Publicplacesofworshipdestroyed:1000
Templebuiltforhisownwife:1
Hardlyendorseshisreligioustolerance.

P.S:IwouldbereallysurprisedifshewereallowedtobeaHinduposthermarriagetoTS.
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Manish3yearsago
ThelinkbelowhelpsusinreadingtheoriginalfirmansissuedbyAurangzeb

aurangzeb.info

Praytell,whyshouldIgivemorecredibilitytoyourgibberish,thantheoriginaledictsofAurangzeb.
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DzFox3yearsago
AurangzebalsobuiltmoretemplesinBengalthananyotherMughalruler.
WOW.didnotknowthat.
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ThinkBig3yearsago
Wegotthisauthorandhis/herastipoftheicebergandweneedtotracewhoareallbehindthis'LIES'propaganda.Itssameoldislamicdeceptionslike
TAQIYYA=lieetctocoverupthehistory.
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Pappu3yearsago
Youfindexactlywhatyouarelookingfor.Ifyoulookfornoevidence,thatisexactlywhatyouwillfind.
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PrakashGuptan2yearsago
whyisitsounrealistictobeleive,ISISdestroyedYezdiShrinesevenasearlyaslastyear..TalibandestoryedthebigBamiyamStatuesofBuddha..So,
whydoubttheMuslimInvaderswereanydifferentfewcenturiesagowhentheybrutallyinvadedIndia...whentherewasnomediaorhumanrightsetc.
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Guest2yearsago
http://www.aurangzeb.info/liesexposedhere
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Jishnu2yearsago
Richardeatonisa"lastword"onthismatter?YoumeanheisthelatestknownliarandapologetictryingtohidethebarbaricbloodygoryrecordofIslamin
India?
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Raman2yearsago
"Yet,thenumericallymostimportantbodyofdatapresentedbyhimconcursneatlywiththeclassic(nowdubbedHindutva)account.Inhisoftquoted
paperTempledesecrationandIndoMuslimstates,hegivesalistofeightycasesofIslamictempledestruction.Onlyeighty,ishowthe
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paperTempledesecrationandIndoMuslimstates,hegivesalistofeightycasesofIslamictempledestruction.Onlyeighty,ishowthe
secularisthistoryrewritersrenderit,butEatonmakesnoclaimthathislistisexhaustive.Moreover,eightyisntalwayseighty.

Thus,inhislist,wefindmentionedasoneinstance:1094:Benares,Ghuridarmy.[1]DidtheGhuridarmyworkoneinstanceoftempledestruction?
EatonprovideshissourceandtherewereadthatinBenares,theGhuridroyalarmydestroyednearlyonethousandtemples,andraisedmosqueson
theirfoundations.[2]Thisway,practicallyeveryoneoftheinstancescitedbyEatonmustbereadasactuallyten,orahundred,orasinthiscase,evena
thousandtemplesdestroyed.EvenEatonsnonexhaustivelist,presentedaspartofthekindofresponsibleandconstructivediscussionthatthis
controversialtopicsobadlyneeds[3],yieldsthesamethousandsoftempledestructionsascribedtotheIslamicrulersinmostrelevantpre1989
historiesofIslamandinproHindupublications."
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Raman2yearsago
Commiesandtheirlies.
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premkumar2yearsago
ThesepeopleoriginallyAryansMigratedfromPersia(Iron)KillednativeIndiansinIndusValley.InfactSanskritisanIndoAryanLanguage.
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GaneshDore2yearsago
Mush?Imeantmuch
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GaneshDore2yearsago
Thismushisselfevident..Ifyoulosethewar,youdie.
PathForward..Donotlosethenextwar........Currentongoing"war"isaslowgrind.
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