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March 6, 2002

TO: All Distributors and Branches - Worldwide

ATTN.: Service Manager, Parts Manager

FROM: M. F. Kubiak

SUBJECT: Converting from DDEC III to DDEC IV - Update

We receive numerous calls asking if a DDEC III engine can be converted to, or serviced with a DDEC
IV ECM. In order to determine if this is possible a person must know the current rating group that is
programmed into the existing DDEC III ECM. This can be read from the ECM with any tool (DDR,
DDDL, or DRS), by reading the 6N4D group. Once the DDEC III group is known simply compare
that number to the current listing to see if an equivalent DDEC IV calibration is available. DDC
Distributors can change the mainframe for the unit to allow the engine calibration to be programmed
into the DDEC IV ECM.

If you cannot view the ECM data it can be viewed on the DDC mainframe. A user must establish a
Powernet (IMS) session. This can be done via the DDC Extranet http://192.135.85.10/cust/select.asp

In the area the cursor is type R24PMENU (not case sensitive) press enter.
R24PMENU

DFS3650I SESSION STATUS FOR IMS IM01

DATE: 12/12/02 TIME: 11:15:18


NODE NAME: TDBC0039
USER:
PRESET DESTINATION:

CURRENT SESSION STATUS:

NO OUTPUT SECURITY AVAILABLE

On the next screen you will be allowed to enter the engine serial number you wish to service. Select
Display DDEC information by typing an X on that line, press enter.
R24PMENU DDEC III SYSTEM GS8 GS8
MODE = UPD DDEC III MAIN MENU 12/12/02 11:16:44

UNIT: 06R0234332

_ ADD DDEC III INFORMATION FOR A UNIT


_ CHANGE DDEC III INFORMATION FOR A UNIT
X DISPLAY DDEC III INFORMATION FOR A UNIT
_ DELETE DDEC III INFORMATION FOR A UNIT
_ UPRATE/DERATE HORSEPOWER
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Detroit Diesel Corporation 13400 Outer Drive, West / Detroit, Michigan 48239-4001 / Telephone: 313-592-5000
DA 1 DaimlerChrysler Powersystems
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Find the D group for the engine.


R24PCHUN DDEC III SYSTEM GS8 GS8
MODE = DIS DISPLAY DDEC III UNIT 12/12/02 11:17:32

UNIT NO: 06R0234332 MODEL: 6067GK60 CUST: 21017 SALES ORDER: 40271A
APPL GROUP: 06N04C0100 DESCRIP: DDEC III/IV HIGHWAY TRK LINEAR DRP JAKE
BASE GROUP: 06N04D6012 DESCRIP: 360-400 HP STD RAT 1994 S60 12L TRUCK
HP GROUP: 06N04M6429 DESCRIP: 360/400HP@1800RPM 1234 94-7 D3 BASE 12L
ACT BLD DATE: 04/18/1995
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Distributors can upgrade the unit by checking the uprate/derate selection and using the PF5 DDEC
Upgrade and changing the rating to the equivalent DDEC IV version.
R24PSLHP DDEC III SYSTEM R03KB DJF
MODE = UPD SELECT UPRATE/DERATE HORSEPOWER 03/05/03 14:03:32

UNIT NO: 06R0234332 MODEL: 6067GK60 CUST: 21017 ACT BLD DATE: 04/18/1995
SALES ORDER: 40271A APPL: DDEC III/IV HIGHWAY TRK LINEAR DRP JAKE
BASE GROUP: 06N04D6012 DESCRIP: 360-400 HP STD RAT 1994 S60 12L TRUCK
HP GROUP: 06N04M6429 DESCRIP: 360/400HP@1800RPM 1234 94-7 D3 BASE 12L
OPTIONAL - FIND 6N4D GROUP: 06N04D6000
SELECT THE ENGINE RATING DESIRED: PAGE: 001

_ 06N04D6000 SO 370-430 HP STD RAT 1994 S60 12LTRK&COACH


_ 06N04M6400 370HP@1800RPM 1217 94-7 D3 BASE 12L
_ 06N04M6401 400HP@1800RPM 1218 94-7 D3 BASE 12L
_ 06N04M6402 430HP@1800RPM 1219 94-7 D3 BASE 12L
_ 06N04M6403 370/430HP@1800RPM 1220 94-7 BASE 12L
_ 06N04D6001 O 370-430 HP STD RAT 1994 S60 12LTRK&COACH
_ 06N04M6404 370HP@2100RPM 1223 94-7 D3 BASE 12L
_ 06N04M6405 400HP@2100RPM 1224 94-7 D3 BASE 12L
_ 06N04M6406 430HP@2100RPM 1225 94-7 D3 BASE 12L
_ 06N04M6407 370/430HP@2100RPM 1226 94-7 D3 BASE 12L

__ PF1=> POWERNET PF2=> DDEC III MENU PF3=> FULL DISPLAY


PF4=> RESTART HP LIST PF5=> DDEC UPGRADE
MORE GROUPS FOLLOW - PRESS ENTER TO CONTINUE

If you have any further questions, feel free to contact DDC Technical Service

Sincerely,

M. F. Kubiak
Customer Assurance
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DDEC III DDEC IV DDEC III DDEC IV


6N4D 6N4D Comment 6N4D 6N4D Comment
103 657 6056 7328
356 599 6058 7387
596 656 6062 7329
5501 5514 6063 7330
5502 5514 w/Low gear 6076 6296
5503 5514 w/Low gear 6077 7400
5507 5514 w/LG & PS 6078 7401
5508 5514 6082 7351
5509 5514 6083 7352
5510 5515 6084 7386
5511 5514 w/Low gear 6086 7277
5512 5515 6087 7331
6000 6283 6090 6173
6001 7319 6091 6174
6002 7279 6094 7353
6003 7325 6095 6252
6005 7334 6096 6175
6006 7335 6097 6176
6007 7336 6098 6177
6008 7337 6099 6178
6009 7338 6101 6179
6011 6284 6102 6258
6012 7320 6103 6180
6013 7321 w/Low gear 6104 6181
6014 7326 6105 6182
6015 7339 6113 6183
6016 7340 6114 6184
6017 7341 6115 6185
6018 7342 6119 7382
6019 7343 6122 7332
6020 7344 6123 7385
6021 7345 6124 7278
6022 7346 6125 7333
6026 7322 6126 7383
6027 7347 6133 6296
6032 7348 6137 7390
6033 7349 6138 7391
6034 7350 6139 7392
6036 7323 6140 7393
6037 7395 6141 7394
6038 7396 6145 6186
6039 7397 6146 6187
6041 7388 6152 7384
6043 7276 6153 6188
6046 7398 6154 6189
6048 7389 6167 6190
6051 7399 6168 6191
6053 7324 6169 6192
6054 7381 6170 6193
6055 7327 6303 7403

DDEC III DDEC IV DDEC III DDEC IV


6N4D 6N4D Comment 6N4D 6N4D Comment
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6304 7359 7142 7228
6309 7275 7143 7148
6310 7275 7144 7149
6311 7275 7145 7150
6312 7275 7146 7151
6313 7274 7155 7238
6314 7272 7156 7239
6315 7272 7157 7240 w/Low gear
6316 7273 7158 7241 w/Low gear
6500 5003 7159 7242 w/Low gear
6501 6687 7160 7243 w/Low gear
6502 6683 7161 7244
6503 6683 7162 7245 Different Cruise Power
6504 6684 7163 7246
6505 6684 7164 7247
6506 7360 7165 7248
6515 5000 7166 7249
6519 5002 7167 7250 w/Low gear
6534 6685 7168 7251
6535 6685 7169 7252 w/Low gear
6536 6686 7170 7253
6537 6686 7171 7254 w/Low gear
6556 6688 7172 7255
6557 6688 7173 7256 w/Low gear
6571 7294 7174 7257 w/Low gear
6574 7293 7175 7258
6578 5001 7176 7259
7041 7213 7177 7260
7075 7214 7178 7261
7076 7215 7179 7263
7077 7216 7189 7262
7078 7217 7190 7264
7079 7218 7280 7281
7080 7219
7081 7220 Low gear torque limit:
7082 7221 Set threshold to 0.1 and limit to desired max torque
7103 7270
7118 7271 PS Progressive Shift:
7127 7275 Set to limit engine speed (1800)
7130 7222 LG#1 MPH 12
7131 7223 LG#1rpm 1800
7132 7224 LG#1rpm 1800
7133 7225 LG#2 MPH 44
7134 7226 LG#2rpm 1800
7135 7227 LG#2rpm 1800
7136 7228 w/Low gear HG MPH 45
7137 7229 HG rpm 1800
7138 7230
7139 7231
7140 7232
7141 7233

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