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But somehow, technology is also a constant in our lives. It is by using tools that we gradually
distinguished ourselves from monkeys. Today, phones are at the heart of our social life,
computers our main work tools, and biotechnology (such as pacemakers) literally have the
power of life and death over us. The more complex society becomes, the more that
technological tools intimately mix with socio-political, economic and cultural dynamics.
Motherboard: Where did you get the idea for this book, Neurocapitalism?
Giorgio Griziotti: This book is the fruit of my two greatest passions: politics and technology. I
was interested in software from the beginning of my studies, I studied IT when these
technologies were in their infancy, and have worked for years in this eld. But I've always
been very interested in politics and I myself am still involved with it (which has allowed me to
travel the world... [laughs]), and I wanted to study more closely the links between these two
passions.
At that time, at the University of Berkeley, we were witnessing the birth of the anti-Vietnam
War movement, but also that of the rst free software. That's how I realized that all this was
deeply connected.
Since the 90s, technology has become more invasive, and we have seen the birth of true
hybrid subjectivities. Technology is no longer just a tool, an instrument for interaction with
the world; it becomes part of our subjective experience.
Our economy is based on knowledge and information. Capitalism in Silicon Valley, which is
part of the nancial machine, founded its own power on its mastery of algorithms and ability
to manipulate our attention, and even space-time.
Recently, the city of Augsburg, in Germany, installed trac signals on the ground
(https://www.urbanews.fr/2016/05/04/50855-des-feux-tricolores-pour-les-accros-du-
smartphone/) for pedestrians who have their eyes on their smartphone. What do you
think of this? Is this a way for the "system" to encourage us to stay glued to our
devices?
In a way, yes. In any case, it's certainly not an invitation to adopt a critical approach. In a
passage of my book, I write that time devours the territory: cognitive capitalism does not want
us to admire the scenery...
Smartphones are also a way to work permanently. Historically, the boundary between private
life and work disappeared along with the factory, when autonomous and precarious work
appeared. Production and living are now intertwined, precisely because of the new
technologies.
Apple, in the controversy when it opposed the FBI over encryption, appeared to the
world as a kind of "defender of privacy." While in the end, it is they who invented the
smartphone...
In my view, Apple has taken a faade position. Would that not be because it is a company that
sells software which it owns, and which is conservative by nature? And in this case, Apple is
trying, clumsily, to embody a libertarian or anarcho-capitalist position in this debate, arguing
that individual freedom is more important than the community. And I, quite honestly, do not
agree with this view.
The old data processing centres of yesteryear, or today's computers, stimulate and
encompass the rational sphere of the brain, the left hemisphere. Items like the smartphone
or the smartwatch, conversely, speak directly to our emotions and our bodies. I explain in
Neurocapitalism that Foucault's biopolitics is taking on a technological dimension. The control
of individuals, thanks to devices, extends to their senses and emotions, it becomes granular
one has only to witness the extent of monitoring carried out through [malware] deployed by
states.
But in the current context, all skills, all creative abilities, are commodities. If you are recruited
to participate in a project, your skill corresponds to a commodity for which they pay you little
and which they then resell for a prot. And truth be told, without awareness and without
struggles to create lines of ight opposed to neoliberalism, there is no guarantee that we will
see the birth of a dierent ethic. And even post-humanism, assuming that we reach it one
day, will remain marked by the economic rationality which currently dominates.
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