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News: Run Your Car On Fumes / Vapors
Charles Pogue Carb.
updated 12/01/2014
In Dec. 12, 1936

Canadian
Automotive
Magazine states
that the standard
carburetor gets
about 25 mpg at
only 9%
efficiency.
Therefore the
Pogue carburetor
is 72% efficient
overall at 200
mpg.
A carburetor that
would allow a car
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to travel 200
miles on a gallon
of gas caused oil
stocks to crash
when it was
announced by its
Canadian inventor
Charles Nelson
Pogue in the
1930s. But the
carburetor was Big Daddy Don Garlits, a drag racing legend,
never produced in poses Aug. 2, 2002, with a 125-miles-per-gallon
enough volume, Pogue Carburetor at Don Garlits Museum of Drag
and mysteriously, Racing, Ocala, Florida.
Pogue went photo by Bruce Ackerman, Star Banner, 2002
overnight from
impoverished
inventor to the manager of a successful factory making oil filters for the
motor industry. Ever since, suspicion has lingered that oil companies
colluded to bury Pogues invention.
see Frank and 16 year ago below.
In 1933 Charles Nelson Pogue made headlines when he drove a 1932

Ford V8, 200 miles on a gallon of gas during a demonstration
conducted by The Ford Motor Company in Winnipeg, Manitoba using
his super-carburetor system.
In early 1936 Breen Motor Company, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

tested the Pogue carburetor on a Ford V-8 Coupe and got 26.2
miles on one pint of gasoline (Thats 200+ mpg).. The
performance of the car was 100% in every way. Under 10 mph
the operation was much smoother than a standard carburetor.
T.G. Green, President of the Breen Motor Company did the tests.
Winnipegs largest automobile dealers tested the Pogue carburetor

and got results of up to 216.8 mpg! In 1945, according to an unnamed
source, carburetors marked POGUE CARBURETOR, DO NOT OPEN were
used on American Army tanks throughout WWII but were removed from
circulation after the war ended.
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In fact, many people attested to these mileage claims as The Pogue

Carb went into production and was sold openly. [see Don Garlitz,
above] However, one of the crucial factors of these systems is the use of
white gasoline, which contained no additives. It was at this time oil
companies started adding lead to the fuel. Lead is an anti-catalyst that
rendered Pogues carburetor as inefficient as a regular carb. His invention
caused such shock waves through the stock market, that the US and
Canadian governments both stepped in and applied pressure to
stifle him.
In the opening months of 1936, stock exchange offices and

brokers were swamped with orders to dump all oil stock
immediately.
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Frank:
After my dad had sent me that copy of the Pogue Carburetor
patent, and while I was working on my plans, an old retired
gentleman with whom I was acquainted, came into my shop,
and began to tell me of his experiences. He had been a
machinist somewhere in Minnesota I think, when a French
Canadian came to the shop. The Canadian had invented a
carburetor, but was having trouble with it vapor locking. The
machinist designed a valve for him that solved the problem.
While the machinist was talking, he kept saying, Oh, what
was his name? Oh, what was his name? I finally ask him,
Was that valve shaped like a rod split in half? He looked at
me in amazement, Why, yes! How did you know? I asked
another question, Was his name Pogue? Then the old man
was really amazed that I knew. I showed him the copy of the
patent that I had, and he was really excited. He went over the
papers like an excited child.
The old machinist went on to tell me how several months or
was it several years later he had to take some paperwork up
to the main office. He had to go through the conference room
where he saw Mr. Pogue in the midst of a bunch of oil
company big wigs. He named the wigs, but I forget the
names. They were heads of Texaco, Shell, Esso, etc. Some of
them had red faces, and Mr. Pogue looked like a trapped
rabbit. Of course the machinist was very interested as to what
was going on, but he knew he wasnt supposed to be there, so
he went on his way.
Later, one of the office boys came down to the shop, and told
the machinist, Hey, you know that Pogue guy that you made
that valve for? Well, he sold that carburetor, and plans, lock
stock and barrel to the oil company guys. They had a black
man carry the whole thing down and put it into the trunk of a
Pierce Arrow, and he drove off. That had been the last he had
heard or seen of it until I showed him those patent papers.
www.blog.hasslberger.com/2007
/04/pogue_carburetor_gasoline_vapo.html
Lead was added [at that very moment] to gasoline to [stop Pogue and]
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prevent anyone else from building such a device, since lead leaves heavy
deposits and clogs these types of units, rendering them ineffective due to
the inability to transfer heat to the fuel.
Also, see Tom Ogle:

Tom Ogle of El Paso Texas , a 24 year old mechanic drove 200 miles in a
1970 351 ci. Ford on 2 gallons of gas. Other mechanics and engineers
checked for hidden tanks, none were found. Reporters and a camera
crew went with him 100 miles out and back; 200 miles 2 gallons. He
claimed from the beginning that he did not know exactly how the system
worked, just that it did and he proved it time and again.
September 1953
A lot of them said they were inventors and wanted to buy stock, wanted
information, wanted controlling interests. I later found out most were
from oil companies.
Were you ever threatened, Mr. Pogue?
Yes, several times.
Was your workshop broken into and models stolen?
Several times.
Were you ever the victim of political pressure?
What do you think? I had pressure from both Canadian and American
politicians. One of your fellows, a big shot in Washington now, was one of
them.
In the opening months of 1936, stock exchange offices and

brokers were swamped with orders to dump all oil stock
immediately.
Pogue and his carburetor have become world-wide legend
This is the year the last of the Pogue patents run out.
In Montreal today, a tired, resigned man goes about his work, trying to
forget the past. He hopes to brush from his memory the fact that 16
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years ago he panicked the Toronto Stock Exchange, threw a fright into
major oil companies, upset manufacturers of carburetors and captured
the immediate, unflagging interest of every motorist in the world.
His name is Pogue. Charles Nelson Pogue. automotive engineer. His

moment of glory, his claim to fame lies in his invention of an automobile
carburetor Its principle was supposed to be a delayed mixing process
that produced a more gaseous charge of fuel and delivered upwards of
200 miles per gallon of standard gasoline.
Or so some people say. And this is the year the world may discover the
truth. For this is the year of the Pogue carburetor the year the last of
the Pogue patents run out.
Shrouded in the vagueness of time and forgotten document. Pogue and

his carburetor have become world-wide legend. Whenever automotive
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minded people get together, whether they be technical brains or garden-

variety motorists, the talk sooner or later turns to that man from
Canada who invented the 200-mpg carburetor Sunday newspaper
supplements and syndicated columnists perennially rediscover the item
and wonder about rumours that Pogue was kidnapped, murdered,
beaten, bought off.
Wonder no longer.
For the first time in 14 years Charles Nelson Pogue spoke to a reporter. I
am that reporter and this is his story.
In the opening months of 1936, stock exchange offices and brokers were
swamped with orders to dump all oil stock immediately. Imperial Oil of
Canada, for instance, suffered a six-point drop. Why? Well, during June
and July of the previous year, it was rumoured that a small eight-cylinder
coupe fitted with a mysterious carburetor had driven from Winnipeg,
Manitoba to Vancouver, British Columbia- a distance of 1,879.5 miles- on
14.5 gallons of gasoline for an overall average of around 130 miles per
gallon!
This was not the first time however, that the carburetor had made news.
Since Pogue had started on the invention some 17 years before (about
the send of World War I) and there had been earlier impractical models,
Pogue had created whispers throughout the North American continent.
Oil men snickered at the idea and most motorists laughed off the news of
the invention as just another illogical contraption.
However, in 1936 the manager of one of Winnipegs largest automobile

dealerships was reported in the authoritative Canadian Automotive Trade
to have said: Today I drove a coupe with the Pogue carburetor 216.8
miles on an imperial gallon of gasoline (roughly the equivalent of a gallon
and a fifth in the United States ). The car performed perfectly in every
respect I was able to throttle it down to one mile an hour and the car
pulled along smoothly and steadily.
The president of a leading automotive agency in the same area (which

was Pogues original home and birthplace of the invention) was quoted
by the Schrader Service News of Brooklyn, N. Y., for summer, 1936 as
saying; I made a test today of the Pogue carburetor installed on an
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eight cylinder
coupe. The
speedometer
showed that the car
had run over 8,000
miles. I drove the
car 26.2 miles on
one pint of
gasoline. The
performance was
100 per cent in
every way.
An engineer in a
Canadian
automobile plant
was quoted as
saying: At the
time of testing we
covered 25.7 miles
on one pint of
gasoline.
In addition to these
personal
testimonials, other
articles appeared in
the daily press and automotive trade journals about better idling, faster
pickup and in one case, a test car which was kept in an unheated garage
during a cold Canadian winter offered no starting difficulties during a cold
Canadian winter offered no starting difficulties during the entire period.
Overwhelming controversy met these testimonials. The December 12,

1936, issue of Automotive Industries said: It stated that on the
announcement of these results (216 miles per imperial gallon ) the
stocks on the Toronto Exchange took a tumble, that men of great wealth
or powerful political connections are financing the development, and that
the inventors laboratories have been broken into in two different
instances and working models were stolenit is added that the stolen
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models were incompleteif the inventor could substantiate the claims,

the consequences would be most important fails to show any features
hitherto unknown in carburetor practice and absolutely gives no warrant
for crediting the remarkable results claimed we shall remain
exceedingly sceptical.
Other articles at the time said that the carburetor was too impractical for
use in the ordinary course of driving because it was dangerous. These
writings pointed out that the Pogue carburetor was liable to explode at
any time.
Scores of carburetion experts and oil company engineers made public

pronouncements on the impossibility of the sevenfold increase claimed by
the Pogue invention. One oil company engineer even pointed out that
gasoline did not, nor never could, contain that high a percentage of
explosive power.
But the fact remains that Charles
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Nelson Pogue was the holder of

some five American and seven
Canadian Patents issued to him
between 1928-1936. The Canadian
Patent Office lists the first patent
for an improvement in carburetion
as filed on April 3, 1928 and the
last on June 23, 1936. The first
United States patent was issued on
March 11. 1930. from an
application filed August 20. 1927.
and the last was issued on January
7. 1936. Since the life span of a
patent is 17 years, Pogues last
legal claim to his controversial
carburetor runs out this year.
Columnist E. V. Durling wrote in a

1949 column. Some organisations
make a practice of waiting 17
years for a patent to expire and
then start to manufacture the
patented article that brings to
mind that there was patented in
the United States in the early
1930s a carburetor said to make it
possible for an automobile to travel
from 150 to 200 miles on one
gallon of gasolineit has never
reached the market. However, the
patent on it expires in a few years,
I can hardly wait to see what
newspaper: Pogue carburetor
happens then.
being tested
Neither can Charles Nelson Pogue.
Now the general manager and part owner of a dingy second floor
machine shop in Montreal which specialises in the production of oil filters
and filter elements, Pogue is anxious to see if anyone will succeed where
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he did not.
Each time his story is rediscovered Pogue is swamped with mail from
all 48 states, all provinces of Canada and at least 29 foreign countries.
His fame is so widespread throughout the Dominium that a letter
addressed to Pogue, Canada and mailed in San Antonio, Texas., once
reached him in three days.
Although he is not in hiding ( the Montreal telephone directory lists his

home address and telephone number). Pogue has a healthy dread of mail
influxes which arrive at his home or office. Each mention of the
carburetor seems to drive deeper his painful memory of the invention
and his life with it.
Pogue is reluctant to talk about

his invention. He spoke to this
reporter, only because youre
from New York and youve come
this distance. I havent seen a
reporter or talked for publication
in 14 years.
When reminded that he was the

central figure in a controversy
which had never been been
settled and further, that he was
now a legend to a new generation
Pogue said: I dont want to hear
about that. I have nothing to gain
by telling my story. If I knew I
were to die tomorrow or if I were
leaving the country, I would tell
it. and it is quite a story. Im
alive and this is my houseHe
waved a tired hand in the general
direction of downtown Montreal.
But, then, with prodding he

admitted that his own automobile
ran for ten years on one of his
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newspaper: Pogue carburetor carburetors but he refused to

being tested oil stocks decline divulge performance figures for
that period. Further, he denied
that he ever claimed that invention offered 200 miles to the gallon-or
even half of that. When pinned down, however. Pogue refused to name
the figure he claims has been violently distorted by newspapermen and
magazine writers.
He admitted that when news of his invention first became public, he was
approached by many people. A lot of them said they were inventors
and wanted to buy stock, wanted information, wanted controlling
interests. I later found out most were from oil companies.
Were you ever threatened, Mr. Pogue?
Yes, several times.

Were you ever physically
attacked?
No.
Was your workshop broken into
and models stolen?
Several times.
Were you ever the victim of
political pressure?
What do you think? Say youre a

government official and youve got
oil stock and my invention came
along. What would you do? I had
pressure from both Canadian
and American politicians. One
of your fellows, a big shot in
Washington now, was one of
newspaper: Pogue carburetor them.
being tested oil executives put
on a false front. Thefts and Will you name him?
threats begin. No.
Does automotive failure face all
inventors of revolutionary new products?
No, providing they invent something easy to make. Now take a
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carburetor, one of the hardest things to make. I lost $100,000. My

partner, thats his picture up there, he lost $100,000. We spent over
$20,000 just making dies. Theyre all in the next room. We use them as
junk.
Why didnt you produce the Pogue carburetor?

Firstly, we couldnt get materials, then distribution, then the war came
along, then
Theres a story which says you were bought off. Is this true?
No.
The carburetor is still yours then until all patents expire?
Did you try to sell the rights to your invention?
Where? The companies buy from their own suppliers to make that
double profit. What company would give this carburetor away? Change a
little bit of chrome here and there, thats all they do for competitive
purposes.
Dont you think the public would have bought your carburetor for
installation on standard cars.
I dont want to talk about it anymore.
And that was the unsatisfying end of Charles Nelson Pogues first
interview in 14 years, perhaps the last time Pogue will speak about his
invention to anyone.
Earlier, in the two-and-a-half-hour interview, this information came to

light:
Charles Nelson Pogue, tired and frightened, is hiding a great deal of

information for no apparent reason that I can fathom. Although visibly
moved when confronted with the picture of young inventors who might
be aided by his experiences, he would not tell his story. Even when
confronted with the fact that many readers would consider his refusal to
speak a certain indication of fraud, he merely shrugged. He refused even
to pose for pictures and threatened prosecution for invasion of privacy if
photographs were taken against his will.
One emotional moment came when he was asked if his invention was
dangerous. He leaped up, towered over his gadget-strewn desk and
waggled his forefinger: Thats nonsense. Gasoline will not explode
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unless it has oxygen. In my invention the gasoline was heated before it

mixed with air. Its entirely possible many people misunderstood that, but
my invention would never explode. Never!
He also disclosed that the first rash of publicity brought letters of inquiry
from governments of Italy and Canada and personal visits from
representatives of Nazi Germany and Communist Russia. He hinted
darkly at financial and political considerations offered to him by these
governments but, when pressed for details, refused to continue.
Taking another tack. Pogue pointed out that the United States and
Canadian patent offices hold thousands of carburetor patents which are
superior to those in use. And yet they are never investigated by the
manufacturers, according to him. In the same vein, he described the
steam automobile as the most practical vehicle ever designed and
asked why it has been discarded. He believes that if as much research
had gone into steam propulsion as into the gasoline engine, all early
objections to that form of locomotion could have been eliminated.
Why? he said, Ask the companies why.
He claimed he received a letter of invitation to submit his carburetor to

the United States Government during World War II. Pogue wrapped up
his invention and travelled to Washington, checked into a D.C. hotel.
Although he flashed the letter, government officials refused to see him,
finally ended by sending him to a test laboratory in a government
building. There, Pogue found the man in charge to be a dollar-a-year
engineer. His momentary puzzlement over the familiarity of the man was
soon evaporated when he recalled that this individual had approached
him in 1936 as an investor.
Naturally, Pogue commented on his Washington trip, they kept me

waiting around two weeks in my hotel room and ended by turning down
the carburetor
However, a letter written by a firm of Canadian attorneys to Alan

Gooden, a young New Jersey resident who actually makes a living selling
information about Pogue carburetor, pointed out that the Canadian Army
had run tests on the Pogue carburetor during World War II and found
that although mileage per gallon had been increased, that increase did
not offset the tremendous loss of engine power which they encountered.
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Official Canadian sources, however, claim to know nothing of such tests.
Basically, the Pogue carburetor created no new principles of carburetion.

Similar to an ordinary perfume-bottle atomiser, any carburetor mixes
mixes a high percentage of air with small percentage of gasoline to
create an explosive mixture. Generally the proportions runs 13 to 17
parts of air to one part of fuel. When mixed in the case of gasoline, falls
instead of rises like other gases. Strangely enough, this fact was
overlooked for years by manufacturers and all production carburetors
were of the updraft type. t wasnt until the early 30s that downdraft
carburetors were introduced.
During the late 20s and early 30s so many fuel-saving devices were
patented and placed on the market in the United States and Canada that
the National Bureau of Standards in Washington created a special
department to handle the testing of devises. For a fee of $35, the Bureau
tested devises and informed their sponsors as to whether the claims
made for the invention could be substantiated. The average claim for
gasoline savings with this influx of gadgets was 25 per cent. Although
Pogues claim made the others seem negligible by comparison, it still
excited no undue comment until the first personal testimonials came
out of Winnipeg in 1936.
Judging by todays standards of what constitutes good mileage, the

Pogue claims indicated a fantastic increase in one fell swoop. Is it
possible?
There is a certain maximum economy mixture of gasoline and air (

generally conceded to be about 16 to 1). If a carburetor delivers this with
the air, this is accepted as the best it can do. Actually, the best is
possible only under ideal conditions. That is, a one-cylinder engine
operating under a constant load-fluctuations in power would upset the
entire mixing process.
The gas-air mixture going into the the multi-cylinder engine are not
even. To give maximum gasoline mileage, any carburetor should be
adjusted down to the leanest (least gas) possible mixture. But, if this is
done, the mixture may become so lean in one or more of the cylinders
far away from the carburetor, that those cylinders wont fire at all. A
richer mixture is generally offered for everyday use to make sure that
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every cylinder is receiving a proper amount of gasoline. In addition, a

richer mixture offers better acceleration and slightly more power.
The matter of gasoline engines efficiency is one which has stumped

automotive engineers since the advent of the horseless carriage. Because
of the high power losses in the carburetor, in the exhaust gases, and low
power factor at which engines work, gasoline has never been delivered
its theoretical potential.
What, then, did the Pogue carburetor do to overcome these power losses
and offer the mileage claimed?
Basically, the Pogue carburetor heated the gasoline before mixing it with
the air. With this system, the inventor claimed that the imperfect mixing
of gasoline in air ( which resulted in small unvaporised droplets of
gasoline which do not explode, which burn slowly, unevenly and increase
internal heat- all bad for performance and mileage ) was eliminated and
every possible energy unit in the gasoline was being utilised.
To provide a perfect gas-air mixture for the engine, Pogue believed that a
heating chamber was needed to thoroughly vaporise the gasoline before
it joined the air stream and entered the cylinders.
Although automobiles do have a heating chamber built into the intake

manifold, this chamber heats the gasoline and air mixture only after it
leaves the carburetor Although this helps the automobile to start easier
and warm up faster, it also creates an expansion of air and consequently,
a smaller charge of air-gas mixture is drawn into the cylinder. Pogue
decided that the only way to produce a real gasoline vapour was to heat
the gasoline and not the air.
His first vaporising carburetor (1930) had a single chamber with hollow
walls which allowed hot exhaust gases to circulate through the carburetor
and warm the gasoline in the chamber. When heat ed the gasoline should
turn to vapour. But there were no great claims made for this particular
model.
Later, in 1935, Pogue turned up with an improved carburetor which

featured two vaporisation of the gasoline. And this is the carburetor
which started the oil-stock tumble.
Pogue admitted to little difficulty in starting the car however, for the
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gasoline was not warm until the exhaust gases reached it. So the first
charge of gasoline going into the engine was far rawer than those later
when it had been heated.
But with the exception of this one minor flaw, Pogue still believes his
carburetor is completely practical.
So the mystery of the Pogue carburetor lies not in the devise itself, but in
the semi-secret story surrounding its invention, development and
eventual abandonment.
In a further effort to clear up some of the most controversial aspects of

the case, CARS contacted R. Pepper, now editor of the Canadian
Automotive Trade, the publication which originally printed some of the
most sensational testimonials.
First, could CARS have a copy of the original article?.

I am sorry but there are no back issues or photostats of the 1936 article
on the Pogue carburetor available.
What about the original reports which were printed? Were they true?
The carburetor never was a practical success and the original report was
entirely misleading as there was no expert ever tried it did give the
mileage suggested in the article.
And then, as an added bonus, Pepper volunteered: It might interest you

to know-if you do not already know it- that it is impossible to get more
than 45 imperial miles per gallon a 3000-pound standard production
vehicle with a 100-hp engine under ordinary driving circumstances.
Impossible? Not according to Charles Nelson Pogue.
Although he will not reveal his exact age, Pogue is not yet an old man.
His face shows the strain of years and the back of his hands are latticed
with a network of fine lines and veins which are the trademark of the
man who dreams with his hands.
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19 of 27 20-Apr-16 22:29
William
August 15, 2013 (http://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/energy-
news/?page_id=986&cpage=1#comment-5721)
Gents:
I have been given permission by GM to pursue both Hummer and Saturn. Saab,
Opel and Ford subsidiaries in England and Russia are open to be acquired. They
know that the combination of high mileage cars and lithium air batteries are coming
and they cannot do a damn thing about it.
Further, too many people know the truth. The dissemination of facts cannot be
stopped either. Stop bitching guys. Lets do something. Act.
I plan to develop these technologies and combine them with free energy aspects to
boot. For example, not only have my team made a Pogue fuel injectable, but they
have also managed to tie a motionless electromagnetic generator to the lithium
battery. The result: nearly 180 mpg, with no need to recharge the lithium battery for
25,000 miles. Just think of it. They have also managed to tie in shocks, and
breaking to the lithium recharge.
To close, maybe being ex-military (intelligence, Air Force) makes me a bit more
optimistic. I know we can do this, and this is indeed the time.
William C. Sharper
dream on
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replyt ocom=5721#r espond)
barry
September 6, 2013 (http://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/energy-
how can I get one of these vapour carburettors ;is there anyone making them as a
kit you can just bolt on?
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Dave H
October 25, 2013 (http://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/energy-
Very interesting article. I acquired the Pogue Patent in the 70s and began work.
Not only does the vehicle get good mileage but the engine idles and runs extremely
smooth. Now I am too old and too worn down to continue the work but I know it
exists.

Bruce McBurney
November 12, 2013 (http://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/energy-
A POGUE CARB IS ON SALE ON E BAY SEE number 261284356583

1400.00 looks very well made, but it could be fouled up with leaded fuel
I researched super carbs and found out that Pogue and most inventors did not fully
understand what they were doing, they all thought it was just vaporizing the
gasoline, but I found and proved that to get the great mileage you have to crack or
re refine the fuel into natural gas and methanol. Please see and share out my web
site http://www.himacresearch.com (http://www.himacresearch.com). Please
contact me if you want to help get this built.
It is time to end suppression before it causes the end of us. Global warming is real
but being slowed down by chem trails, that are aluminum and reflective materials
that are destroying our soils

21 of 27 20-Apr-16 22:29
Rogue
The image on Pogues Patent on the USPTO Website is almost deliberately

horrible. The image on this website provides sufficient info for anyone to build one
of these. It is basically a heat exchanger that uses the heat from the exhaust
gasses to take the fuel to the monotomic level so that each molecule can react with
oxygen instead of droplets burning from the outside inwards.
Today we have the benefit of building one of these with off the shelf items like
aluminum roof flashing for the heat exchanging coils, a used fuel injector and fuel
pump from a upick junkyard (~$10us) for the atomizer, a 12v air mattress blower
motor for the air pump, if you can manage with these, then you can figure out the
rest.
If such a contraption were mounted on a fuel injected engine upstream of the mass
airflow meter then the oxygen sensor should notice the excess fuel and shut off the
cylinder injectors proportionately. You also wont have any issues with cold starting
on a fuel injected platform if you use a radiator fan sensor switch and a relay to kick
in your Rogue Pogue that way it doesnt kick on until the exhaust gases are up to
temp. A double 12v gas valve from an old RV furnace can be used to downstream
of the blower motor and drill a hole in a brass compression cap as an orifice sized
to match the engine.
Build one, use it (like Pogue did), stay out of the limelight and no one will bother
you.
Rogue Pogue

Larry
December 8, 2013 (http://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/energy-
22 of 27 20-Apr-16 22:29
Have a 2012 honda civic will it work, and can I buy one? How much? And are they
easy to install?
I guess you did not read Bruce McBurneys comment (2nd below).

William
April 12, 2014 (http://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/energy-
Mesdames, Gentlemen: Who owns the rights to the Pogue? I am having trouble
discerning the rightful owner.
William Sharper
Read this page. The answer is clear.

jean
April 30, 2014 (http://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/energy-
23 of 27 20-Apr-16 22:29
Hi, I would like to have the EP130. Are you selling it and at what cost? Do you have
a specific website? Or do you have a hho kit that works 100% for a 2-3 l car? Can
you deliver in Canada and what are the requirements?
Regards,
Jean
Can you put a little gasoline in the bottom of a gas can, and run you car on vapors?
(see our Run Your Car On Vapors page)

ron
May 23, 2014 (http://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/energy-
Id never read the true story before, fascinating. Growing up in the fifties I had
heard of Pogue and the 200 mile per gallon carburator but the story was that an oil
company executive invited the inventor on a fishing trip and he was never heard of
again! Amazing the information you can get on Google.
Ron Rich

ted
June 4, 2014 (http://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/energy-
to William Sharper
Who owns the rights, the patent ran out decades ago. it is public domain. ted
woodard
24 of 27 20-Apr-16 22:29
Kirk
July 14, 2014 (http://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/energy-
The Bureau of mines says the lower flammability number for gasoline as a vapor is
3%.
And you have no idea what the lower explosive number for gasoline as a vapor
means. Would someone like to tell him? (see our page Run Your Car On Vapors)

Kent
July 26, 2014 (http://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/energy-
All this sounds great if oil companies do not snuff anyone with a great idea? Kent

Joe
I have had my 350 c.i. 95 Chevy pickup running (at an idle only) with a mock-up
version of Pogues carb. It ran so smooth a glass of water barely rippled on the air
cleaner. Absolutely amazing
Joe Barbuito
25 of 27 20-Apr-16 22:29
great!

Mark
I know of someone working on a similar idea. He has the needed patents. So far all
motor vehicle people and companies are showing disinterest, or negative feedback
. He will continue to make it work. This is today 11/31/14. Not from years ago.
Mark J. Gordon
The disinterest, or negative feedback should tell you that, unfortunately, those
things have not changed. If you (and he) read our Run Your Car On Vapors page,
where others have made it work also and are sharing their successes you will both
see that is how things WILL change.

Frik
this look 100% have you still got the blueprints (plans) for it
Not a blueprint, a patent. His full patent with all its drawings is all over the internet.

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Charles Pogue Carb.

In Dec. 12, 1936

In 1933 Charles Nelson Pogue made headlines when he drove a 1932

In early 1936 Breen Motor Company, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

Winnipegs largest automobile dealers tested the Pogue carburetor

In fact, many people attested to these mileage claims as The Pogue

In the opening months of 1936, stock exchange offices and

Also, see Tom Ogle:

In the opening months of 1936, stock exchange offices and

His name is Pogue. Charles Nelson Pogue. automotive engineer. His

Shrouded in the vagueness of time and forgotten document. Pogue and

minded people get together, whether they be technical brains or garden-

However, in 1936 the manager of one of Winnipegs largest automobile

The president of a leading automotive agency in the same area (which

Overwhelming controversy met these testimonials. The December 12,

models were incompleteif the inventor could substantiate the claims,

Scores of carburetion experts and oil company engineers made public

But the fact remains that Charles

Nelson Pogue was the holder of

Columnist E. V. Durling wrote in a

Although he is not in hiding ( the Montreal telephone directory lists his

Pogue is reluctant to talk about

When reminded that he was the

But, then, with prodding he

newspaper: Pogue carburetor carburetors but he refused to

Were you ever threatened, Mr. Pogue?

Yes, several times.

What do you think? Say youre a

No, providing they invent something easy to make. Now take a

carburetor, one of the hardest things to make. I lost $100,000. My

Why didnt you produce the Pogue carburetor?

Did you try to sell the rights to your invention?

Earlier, in the two-and-a-half-hour interview, this information came to

Charles Nelson Pogue, tired and frightened, is hiding a great deal of

unless it has oxygen. In my invention the gasoline was heated before it

Why? he said, Ask the companies why.

He claimed he received a letter of invitation to submit his carburetor to

Naturally, Pogue commented on his Washington trip, they kept me

However, a letter written by a firm of Canadian attorneys to Alan

Official Canadian sources, however, claim to know nothing of such tests.

Basically, the Pogue carburetor created no new principles of carburetion.

Judging by todays standards of what constitutes good mileage, the

There is a certain maximum economy mixture of gasoline and air (

every cylinder is receiving a proper amount of gasoline. In addition, a

The matter of gasoline engines efficiency is one which has stumped

Although automobiles do have a heating chamber built into the intake

Later, in 1935, Pogue turned up with an improved carburetor which

In a further effort to clear up some of the most controversial aspects of

First, could CARS have a copy of the original article?.

And then, as an added bonus, Pepper volunteered: It might interest you

Impossible? Not according to Charles Nelson Pogue.

Alternatively, for detailed instructions on how to make your

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