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TABLE OF CONTENTS
1. Declaration of Support
2. Constitutional Issues
3. Strand One:
4. Strand Two:
5. Strand Three:
Human Rights
7. Decommissioning
8. Security
10. Prisoners
DECLARATION OF SUPPORT
1. We, the participants in the multi-party negotiations, believe that the
agreement we have negotiated offers a truly historic opportunity for a new
beginning.
2. The tragedies of the past have left a deep and profoundly regrettable
legacy of suffering. We must never forget those who have died or been
injured, and their families. But we can best honour them through a fresh
start, in which we firmly dedicate ourselves to the achievement of
reconciliation, tolerance, and mutual trust, and to the protection and
vindication of the human rights of all.
3. We are committed to partnership, equality and mutual respect as the
basis of relationships within Northern Ireland, between North and South,
and between these islands.
CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES
1. The participants endorse the commitment made by the British and Irish
Governments that, in a new British-Irish Agreement replacing the Anglo-
Irish Agreement, they will:
(ii) recognise that it is for the people of the island of Ireland alone, by
agreement between the two parts respectively and without external
impediment, to exercise their right of self-determination on the basis of
consent, freely and concurrently given, North and South, to bring about a
united Ireland, if that is their wish, accepting that this right must be
achieved and exercised with and subject to the agreement and consent of
a majority of the people of Northern Ireland;
(iii) acknowledge that while a substantial section of the people in Northern
Ireland share the legitimate wish of a majority of the people of the island
of Ireland for a united Ireland, the present wish of a majority of the people
of Northern Ireland, freely exercised and legitimate, is to maintain the
Union and, accordingly, that Northern Ireland's status as part of the United
Kingdom reflects and relies upon that wish; and that it would be wrong to
make any change in the status of Northern Ireland save with the consent
of a majority of its people;
(iv) affirm that if, in the future, the people of the island of Ireland exercise
their right of self-determination on the basis set out in sections (i) and (ii)
above to bring about a united Ireland, it will be a binding obligation on both
Governments to introduce and support in their respective Parliaments
legislation to give effect to that wish;
(vi) recognise the birthright of all the people of Northern Ireland to identify
themselves and be accepted as Irish or British, or both, as they may so
choose, and accordingly confirm that their right to hold both British and
Irish citizenship is accepted by both Governments and would not be
affected by any future change in the status of Northern Ireland.
2. The participants also note that the two Governments have accordingly
undertaken in the context of this comprehensive political agreement, to
propose and support changes in, respectively, the Constitution of Ireland
and in British legislation relating to the constitutional status of Northern
Ireland.
ANNEX A
Draft Clauses/Schedules for incorporation in British legislation
2. The Government of Ireland Act 1920 is repealed; and this Act shall have
effect notwithstanding any other previous enactment.
3. If the Government declare that the State has become obliged, pursuant
to the Agreement, to give effect to the amendment of this Consti225;isin
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(ii) the following Articles shall be substituted for Articles 2 and 3 of the
English text:
Article 2
Article 3
1. It is the firm will of the Irish nation, in harmony and friendship, to unite
all the people who share the territory of the island of Ireland, in all the
diversity of their identities and traditions, recognising that a united Ireland
shall be brought about only by peaceful means with the consent of a
majority of the people, democratically expressed, in both jurisdictions in
the island. Until then, the laws enacted by the Parliament established by
this Constitution shall have the like area and extent of application as the
laws enacted by the Parliament that existed immediately before the
coming into operation of this Constitution.
iii. the following section shall be added to the Irish text of this Article:
and
iv. the following section shall be added to the English text of this Article:
STRAND ONE
Democratic Institutions in Northern Ireland
The Assembly
2. A 108-member Assembly will be elected by PR(STV) from existing
Westminster constituencies.
Safeguards
(b) the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) and any Bill of
Rights for Northern Ireland supplementing it, which neither the Assembly
nor public bodies can infringe, together with a Human Rights Commission;
(c) arrangements to provide that key decisions and legislation are proofed
to ensure that they do not infringe the ECHR and any Bill of Rights for
Northern Ireland;
(i) either parallel consent, i.e. a majority of those members present and
voting, including a majority of the unionist and nationalist designations
present and voting;
7. The Chair and Deputy Chair of the Assembly will be elected on a cross-
community basis, as set out in paragraph 5(d) above.
12. The above special procedure shall be followed when requested by the
Executive Committee, or by the relevant Departmental Committee, voting
on a cross-community basis.
13. When there is a petition of concern as in 5(d) above, the Assembly shall
vote to determine whether the measure may proceed without reference to
this special procedure. If this fails to achieve support on a cross-
community basis, as in 5(d)(i) above, the special procedure shall be
followed. Executive Authority
15. The First Minister and Deputy First Minister shall be jointly elected into
office by the Assembly voting on a cross-community basis, according to
5(d)(i) above.
16. Following the election of the First Minister and Deputy First Minister,
the posts of Ministers will be allocated to parties on the basis of the
d'Hondt system by reference to the number of seats each party has in the
Assembly.
18. The duties of the First Minister and Deputy First Minister will include,
inter alia, dealing with and co-ordinating the work of the Executive
Committee and the response of the Northern Ireland administration to
external relationships.
19. The Executive Committee will provide a forum for the discussion of,
and of Office (Annex A) undertaking to discharge effectively and in good
faith all the responsibilities attaching to their office.
24. Ministers will have full executive authority in their respective areas of
responsibility, within any broad programme agreed by the Executive
Committee and endorsed by the Assembly as a whole.
26. The Assembly will have authority to pass primary legislation for
Northern Ireland in devolved areas, subject to:
(a) the ECHR and any Bill of Rights for Northern Ireland supplementing it
which, if the courts found to be breached, would render the relevant
legislation null and void;
27. The Assembly will have authority to legislate in reserved areas with the
approval of the Secretary of State and subject to Parliamentary sembly
legislation on reserved matters;
(c) scrutinise, including through the Northern Ireland Grand and Select
Committees, the responsibilities of the Secretary of State.
35. The Assembly will meet first for the purpose of organisation, without
legislative or executive powers, to resolve its standing orders and working
practices and make preparations for the effective functioning of the
Assembly, the British-Irish Council and the North/South Ministerial Council
and associated implementation bodies. In this transitional period, those
members of the Assembly serving as shadow Ministers shall affirm their
commitment to non-violence and exclusively peaceful and democratic
means and their opposition to any use or threat of force by others for any
political purpose; to work in good faith to bring the new arrangements into
being; and to observe the spirit of the Pledge of Office applying to
appointed Ministers.Review
ANNEX A
Pledge of Office
To pledge:
(c) to serve all the people of Northern Ireland equally, and to act in
accordance with the general obligations on government to promote
equality and prevent discrimination;
(e) to operate within the framework of that programme when agreed within
the Executive Committee and endorsed by the Assembly;
(f) to support, and to act in accordance with, all decisions of the Executive
Committee and Assembly;
Code of Conduct
* ensure all reasonable requests for information from the Assembly, users
of services and individual citizens are complied with; and that
Departments and their staff conduct their dealings with the public in an
open and responsible way;
* follow the seven principles of public life set out by the Committee on
Standards in Public Life;
* comply with this code and with rules relating to the use of public funds;
* ensure they comply with any rules on the acceptance of gifts and
hospitality that might be offered;
* declare any personal or business interests which may conflict with their
responsibilities. The Assembly will retain a Register of Interests.
Individuals must ensure that any direct or indirect pecuniary interests
which members of the public might reasonably think could influence their
judgement are listed in the Register of Interests;
STRAND TWO
NORTH/SOUTH MINISTERIAL COUNCIL
(ii) in specific sectoral formats on a regular and frequent basis with each
side represented by the appropriate Minister;
(iii) in an appropriate format to consider institutional or cross-sectoral
matters (including in relation to the EU) and to resolve disagreement.
5. The Council:
9. As part of the work programme, the Council will identify and agree at
least 6 matters for co-operation and implementation in each of the
following categories:(i) Matters where existing bodies will be the
appropriate mechanisms for co-operation in each separate jurisdiction;
(ii) Matters where the co-operation will take place through agreed
implementation bodies on a cross-border or all-island level.
10. The two Governments will make necessary legislative and other
enabling preparations to ensure, as an absolute commitment, that these
bodies, which have been agreed as a result of the work programme,
function at the time of the inception of the British-Irish Agreement and the
transfer of powers, with legislative authority for these bodies transferred
to the Assembly as soon as possible thereafter. Other arrangements for
the agreed co-operation will also commence contemporaneously with the
transfer of powers to the Assembly.
11. The implementation bodies will have a clear operational remit. They
will implement on an all-island and cross-border basis policies agreed in
the Council.
15. Funding to be provided by the two Administrations on the basis that the
Council and the implementation bodies constitute a necessary public
function.
16. The Council to be supported by a standing joint Secretariat, staffed by
members of the Northern Ireland Civil Service and the Irish Civil Service.
ANNEX
Areas for North-South co-operation and implementation may include the
following:
9. Inland Fisheries.
10. Aquaculture and marine matters
11. Health: accident and emergency services and other related cross-
border issues.
STRAND THREE
BRITISH-IRISH COUNCIL
3. The BIC will meet in different formats: at summit level, twice per year; in
specific sectoral formats on a regular basis, with each side represented by
the appropriate Minister; in an appropriate format to consider cross-
sectoral matters.
5. The BIC will exchange information, discuss, consult and use best
endeavours to reach agreement on co-operation on matters of mutual
interest within the competence of the relevant Administrations. Suitable
issues for early discussion in the BIC could include transport links,
agricultural issues, environmental issues, cultural issues, health issues,
education issues and approaches to EU issues. Suitable arrangements to
be made for practical co-operation on agreed policies.
9. A secretariat for the BIC will be provided by the British and Irish
Governments in co-ordination with officials of each of the other members.
10. In addition to the structures provided for under this agreement, it will
be open to two or more members to develop bilateral or multilateral
arrangements between them. Such arrangements could include, subject to
the agreement of the members concerned, mechanisms to enable
consultation, co-operation and joint decision-making on matters of mutual
interest; and mechanisms to implement any joint decisions they may
reach. These arrangements will not require the prior approval of the BIC as
a whole and will operate independently of it.
12. The full membership of the BIC will keep under review the workings of
the Council, including a formal published review at an appropriate time
after the Agreement comes into effect, and will contribute as appropriate
to any review of the overall political agreement arising from the multi-party
negotiations.
BRITISH-IRISH
INTERGOVERNMENTAL
CONFERENCE
1. There will be a new British-Irish Agreement dealing with the totality of
relationships. It will establish a standing British-Irish Intergovernmental
Conference, which will subsume both the Anglo-Irish Intergovernmental
Council and the Intergovernmental Conference established under the 1985
Agreement.
2. The Conference will bring together the British and Irish Governments to
promote bilateral co-operation at all levels on all matters of mutual
interest within the competence of both Governments.
9. The Conference will keep under review the workings of the new British-
Irish Agreement and the machinery and institutions established under it,
including a formal published review three years after the Agreement
comes into effect. Representatives of the Northern Ireland Administration
will be invited to express views to the Conference in this context. The
Conference will contribute as appropriate to any review of the overall
political agreement arising from the multi-party negotiations but will have
no power to override the democratic arrangements set up by this
Agreement.
1. The parties affirm their commitment to the mutual respect, the civil
rights and the religious liberties of everyone in the community. Against the
background of the recent history of communal conflict, the parties affirm
in particular:
* they are constrained by, accountable to and act only within the law;
* their powers and procedures* the management of public order events
which can impose exceptional demands on policing resources is also
addressed.
5. Each institution may, at any time, review any problems that may arise in
its operation and, where no other institution is affected, take remedial
action in consultation as necessary with the relevant Government or
Governments. It will be for each institution to determine its own
procedures for review.
6. If there are difficulties in the operation of a particular institution, which
have implications for another institution, they may review their operations
separately and jointly and agree on remedial action to be taken under their
respective authorities.
7. If difficulties arise which require remedial action across the ran majority
of the people of Northern Ireland with regard to its status, whether they
prefer to continue to support the Union with Great Britain or a sovereign
united Ireland;
(iv) affirm that, if in the future, the people of the island of Ireland exercise
their right of self-determination on the basis set out in sections (i) and (ii)
above to bring about a united Ireland, it will be a binding obligation on both
Governments to introduce and support in their respective Parliaments
legislation to give effect to that wish;
(b) the amendments to the Constitution of Ireland set out in Annex B to the
section entitled "Constitutional Issues" of the Multi-Party Agreement shall
have been approved by Refere>
ANNEX 1
The Agreement Reached
ANNEX 2
Declaration on the Provisions of
In Relationship to Citizenship
The British and Irish Governments declare that it is their joint
understanding that the term "the people of Northern Ireland" in paragraph
(vi) of Article 1 of this Agreement means, for the purposes of giving effect
to this provision, all persons born in Northern Ireland and having, at the
time of their birth, at least one parent who is a British citizen, an Irish
citizen or is otherwise entitled to reside in Northern Ireland without any
restriction on their period of residence.
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Political overview
System of Government
Ireland is a republic, with a system of parliamentary democracy.
The National Parliament (Oireachtas) consists of the President and
two houses: the Dil ireann (the House of Representatives) and
the Seanad ireann (the Senate).
The President is directly elected for a seven-year term. Michael D
Higgins was elected President in October 2011. Presidents can
serve a maximum of two terms, consecutive or otherwise. The
office of the President is largely ceremonial.
The two Houses of the Oireachtas, the Dil and the Seanad, make
laws. A general election to elect members to the Dil must take
place within five years of the previous election (the next one must
take place no later than 12 April 2021). There are 166 members in
the Dil who are elected directly via a system of proportional
representation. The Dil elects the Prime Minister, known as the
Taoiseach (Tee shock). The President appoints the Taoiseach and
then the Taoiseach nominates the other members of the
Government for the approval of the Dil. The Government has the
power to appoint Ministers of State (junior ministers) directly. The
Deputy Prime Minister is known as the Tnaiste (Tawn-ish-ta).
The Seanad (Senate) has limited powers and largely functions as a
review body for the Dil. It can delay, but not block, legislation. The
Seanad has 60 members, none of whom is directly elected. Eleven
are directly appointed by the Taoiseach, six are elected by
graduates of certain Irish universities, and 43 are elected from five
panels of nominees, known as vocational panels consisting of
members of the Dil, senators and local councillors.
Major parties
Ireland's two main political parties, Fianna Fil and Fine Gael, do
not divide on a right/left basis on political, economic or social
issues. Both are centre-right and have their roots in differing
community attitudes to the 1921 Treaty of Independence (from the
UK). Fine Gael represents the tradition that accepted the treaty as
a stepping stone to an eventual republic of the whole island.
Fianna Fil represents the tradition that rejected the treaty
because the present six counties of Northern Ireland were
excluded from the outset. These traditions are still reflected in
slightly different approaches towards Northern Ireland but there is
bipartisan support for the peace process and the 1998 Belfast
(Good Friday) Agreement.
EU/European issues
Active participation in EU policy-making is a priority for the Irish
Government. Ireland joined the European Community in 1973 and
seeks to coordinate its foreign policy with other EU Member
States. Ireland held the rotating EU presidency for the period
January-July 2013, the seventh time it had done so.
The Irish constitution requires that European treaties go to a
national referendum and this has resulted in a high level of debate
on Ireland's role in the EU and the future of the EU. In 2008 the
Irish electorate rejected the Lisbon Treaty. After receiving specific
assurances from the European Commission, the Lisbon Treaty was
ratified in a second referendum in 2009.
Northern Ireland Peace Process
In December 1999 the UK Parliament devolved power to the
Northern Ireland Assembly and its Executive Committee of
Ministers. The Northern Ireland Assembly was established as a
result of the Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement of 10 April 1998. The
Agreement was the outcome of a long process of talks between the
political parties of Northern Ireland and the British and Irish
Governments. The Belfast Agreement significantly reduced
terrorist activity and delivered tangible, community-level benefits.
Australia retains an interest in the peace and reconciliation
process through its role as an observer at meetings of the
International Fund for Ireland.
Economic overview
Ireland's economy, while relatively small, is modern and trade-
focused. Industrial activity is focused on pharmaceuticals,
chemicals, computer hardware and software, food products,
beverages and brewing, and medical devices. Ireland's low rate of
corporation tax has seen many multinational companies relocate
to Ireland in recent years, particularly in the IT and pharmaceutical
sectors. Ireland's principal export markets are the United States,
the UK and Belgium.
Bilateral relationship
Australia has maintained an embassy in Dublin since 1 September
1946. 2016 therefore marked the 70th anniversary of diplomatic
relations between the two countries.
Australia and Ireland have a number of bilateral agreements
covering areas such as taxation, social security, extradition,
medical treatment for travellers and working holidays for young
people. Australia and Ireland signed a bilateral social security
agreement in 2005 to give improved social security protection to
people who have lived and/or worked in both Australia and Ireland.
People-to-people links
The Irish were among the first European settlers in Australia and
contributed substantially to the development of contemporary
Australian society. Irish migration has been almost continuous
throughout the period of European settlement of Australia. In the
2011 Census, nearly 2.1 million Australians indicated they had
some Irish ancestry.
Some tens of thousands of Irish people may be visiting Australia at
any one time, including through working holiday visa arrangements.
In the year ending October 2016, more than 57,500 Irish residents
visited Australia.
Although Ireland is not a major source country for international
students, both governments are supportive of the development of
bilateral research and development and academic links. The Irish
Research Council for the Humanities and Social Sciences (IRCHSS)
has developed a relationship with its counterpart in Australia, the
Academy for the Humanities. University College Dublin hosts the
Keith Cameron Chair of Australian History, which was established
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15. Professor Bogdanor thought that it was "illusory" in the modern world
"to believe that you can confine legislative matters solely to
parliamentarians" (Q 78). The Government acknowledged arguments that
referendums could ensure that the public are consulted on significant issues
(p 94).
16. Peter Browning argued that "at a time when public trust in this system is
probably lower than ever in living memory", referendums could help restore
faith in British democracy (p 112). Nigel Smith made a similar point (p 144).
Unlock Democracy argued that referendums could help to counteract the
sense of cynicism and powerlessness amongst voters (p 18). The
Government stated that it could be argued that referendums could help
strengthen confidence in the UK's democratic system (p 94).
20. Likewise, Dr Andrew Blick, Federal Trust for Education and Research,
argued that referendums had helped to place new institutions such as the
Scottish Parliament and Welsh Assembly, as well as the Northern Ireland
peace process, on a stable footing (p 110).
21. Some witnesses argued that referendums were able to "settle" a debate
on a controversial issue, at least for a period. Peter Kellner, President,
YouGov, argued that the 1975 referendum on membership of the European
Community "put to bed" the issue "for a generation" because "the opponents
of British membership accepted that verdict for a period and without the
referendum it might have been re-opened" (Q 45).
27. Some witnesses recommended referendums for the debates that they
could engender to promote political knowledge, as with Unlock Democracy's
mention of "the opportunity for public education and discourse on a
contentious issue" (p 22). Dr O'Malley stated that referendums allowed "the
people and political class to focus on an issue in quite a concentrated way",
thus enabling citizens "to learn quite deeply about the topic" (p 129).
Dr Daniel A. Smith reported that research into experience in the US,
Switzerland and Canada showed that direct democratic tools enhanced
political knowledge of the issue in question amongst citizens (p 142).
28. Professor Bogdanor argued that the 1975 referendum on the European
Community had raised awareness of the issues in question (Q 78). Likewise,
Professor Hazell argued that the referendum campaigns in Scotland, Wales
and Northern Ireland raised awareness about the proposals for devolved
assemblies (Q 5).
31. Some witnesses suggested that referendums were popular with the
public. Unlock Democracy asserted that this was so, because they are seen
as a fair way of resolving difficult or significant issues (p 18). Professor
Bogdanor asserted that studies of the international use of referendums
showed that people welcomed the opportunity to participate so long as they
thought that their participation would have some result and was not a
"talking shop" (Q 85).
32. Professor Tierney said that while the turnout on ordinary referendums
might be low, evidence suggests that referendums on "big constitutional
issues", such as the Belfast Agreement, the Danish referendum on the euro,
and referendums on independence in Montenegro and Quebec, produced a
high turnout (Q 90).
38. Steve Richards, Chief Political Commentator, The Independent, said that
"a leader does not dare hold a referendum unless they are convinced they
are going to win it, so they are tools for leaders to avoid decisions ... It looks
as if they are being rather noble in giving powers away from themselves to
take decisions and giving them to the voters to do it. The motives for holding
them are far more complicated than that" (QQ 123, 131).
39. Peter Kellner argued that the decision to hold the 1975 European
Communities referendum "was a constitutional outrage ... it was wholly to do
with holding the Labour Party together" (Q 46). Other witnesses made similar
points (QQ 84, 125). Professor Bogdanor asserted that the offer of the 1979
devolution referendums was made for tactical purposes in order to overcome
backbench opposition in Parliament (Q 79).
40. Steve Richards argued that the 1997 Labour manifesto "was almost like
a halfway bridge to power and then a lot of the awkward decisions and
debates took the form of promises of referendumsthe euro, Scottish
Parliament, London mayor, electoral reform" (Q 122). He also told us that
the decision to hold a referendum on Scottish devolution was only made
because Tony Blair, observing that a referendum had been proposed on the
euro, "did not think he could go through an election campaign with that
contradiction ... it was not that he thought out of principle 'We must do this';
he was worried about the contradictions in a Labour election campaign"
(Q 129).
41. Michael Wills MP opined that the referendum had been used in the UK as
a "political tool", but did not see anything wrong with that, because "politics
can be a noble profession; it does, at its best, represent the battle of
competing values and ideals and ideologies" (Q 236).
46. Peter Kellner pointed out that, in Switzerland, women were not given the
vote until 1971, because male voters had rejected votes for women in a
referendum in 1959 (Q 43). Professor Williams stated that the Australian
system, where a majority of states, as well as a majority of voters, are
required to vote in favour of a change in order for a constitutional
amendment to be carried, has made change to the constitution extremely
difficult, if not impossible (p 150).[10]
47. Some witnesses argued that referendums did not "settle" the issue in
question. Dr Wilks-Heeg pointed out that the 1970s referendums in Scotland,
Wales and Northern Ireland had not brought to an end Irish, Scottish or
Welsh nationalism, but rather, the issues were revisited in referendums in
the 1990s, with further referendums planned in Scotland and Wales (p 37).
48. Peter Facey told us that "different generations will take different
decisions, in the same way that we do not just have one election and then
expect us all to live with it for the next 50 or 60 years" (Q 45). Steve
Richards noted that the 1975 European Community referendum was only
binding on the Labour Party's position for four years before they wished to
change it (Q 125).
49. Dr Wilks-Heeg also pointed out that, in the case of other EU states that
have held referendums on EU treaties, governments had been able to force
repeat referendums to get the result they wanted (p 37). The two Irish
referendums on the Lisbon Treaty are a case in point.
53. Other witnesses argued that there was little public appetite for
referendums to be used. Peter Browning stated that while people may be
prepared to vote every four or five years, even then turnout is falling. On
past evidence of referendum turnout in the UK, he thought that it was
doubtful whether voters would turn out to vote in similar numbers as for
elections. He stated that low turnout would weaken the legitimacy of the
result (p 112). Professor Butler cited the rapid decline in turnout in
Switzerland, often viewed as the European exemplar of direct democracy
(Q 6).[12]
56. Nigel Smith pointed out that referendums cost money and take time
(p 143), and Caroline Morris also referred to "logistical difficulties" (p 127).
Unlock Democracy stated that referendums are "costly in terms of money,
time and political attention and the use of such resources needs to be
carefully considered" (p 25). Dr Helena Catt, former New Zealand Electoral
Commissioner and former Associate Professor, Auckland University, told us
that referendums are "very expensive to do properly and if you are not going
to spend the money on it, it is not worth doing it" (Q 157).
58. Peter Browning stated that the sovereignty of Parliament "is certainly
threatened by the use of referendums. Referendums put the people before
parliament. The sovereignty of parliament becomes the sovereignty of the
people ... Introducing direct democracy into the political system ...
challenges the indirect, representative democracy that has been the essence
of UK democracy. If the people vote one way, their representatives another,
who should prevail, who is sovereign?" (pp 112-3).
Conclusion
59. Michael Wills MP told us that he was "really alarmed sometimes when I
hear some politicians speak as if measures of direct democracy are panaceas
for all the political challenges that we face. They are not" (Q 266). Professor
Marsh told us that "there are all sorts of apparent strengths ... The
unfortunate thing is that on the whole it does not do any of those things and
quite often it leaves you worse off than you were before" (Q 157).
62. The balance of the evidence that we have heard leads us to the
conclusion that there are significant drawbacks to the use of
referendums. In particular, we regret the ad hoc manner in which
referendums have been used, often as a tactical device, by the
government of the day. Referendums may become a part of the UK's
political and constitutional practice. Where possible, cross-party
agreement should be sought as to the circumstances in which it is
appropriate for referendums to be used.
"There was not time to change this even if I wanted to... It was,
moreover, a rich source of political advantage to attack the
referendum as a constitutional monstrosity devised simply to
keep the Labour Cabinet together."
A disdain for referendums is still held by many senior Conservatives.
However, Mrs Thatcher was astute enough to recognise that this
might not be a position that would hold for ever.
In her speech to the Commons, she said it might be necessary to call
for a referendum on an issue that divided the nation, but not the
parties, making a general election an inappropriate instrument for
settling it.
As she also pointed out, referendums are not wholly alien to the
British system. They were advocated, if not used, in connection with
Irish Home Rule, the powers of the House of Lords in 1911, and the
imposition of food tariffs. In 1945, Winston Churchill considered a
referendum to extend the life of Parliament until Japan was defeated.
In the opinion of A V Dicey, the great constitutionalist: "The
referendum is the people's veto; the nation is sovereign and may well
decree that the constitution shall not be changed without the direct
sanction of the nation."
As Lady Thatcher has since discovered, remaining in the Common
Market was a great constitutional issue that merited a referendum,
even if it was proffered by Labour as a device for bridging deep
Cabinet divisions over membership.
There was also a case for a referendum over the Maastricht Treaty in
1993 but the Conservative government opposed it, as did Labour,
though MPs on both sides voted in favour of conducting one.
Labour has since staged referendums for Scottish and Welsh
devolution, to endorse the Good Friday agreement, for regional
government in the North East and even to ask Londoners whether
they wanted an elected mayor, hardly a matter of great constitutional
moment. But what they all had in common is not that they were
constitutional reforms, but that they involved a transfer of power, as
does the new EU treaty.
None the less, Tony Blair's decision to concede a referendum over
the proposed treaty after so implacably opposing one was probably
the most stunning U-turn of his premiership.
In the months before his announcement in April 2004, Mr Blair was
adamant. He said: "There will not be a referendum. The reason is that
the constitution does not fundamentally change the relationship
between the EU and the UK... There is a proper place where this
constitution can be debated. It is Parliament."
But Mr Blair changed his mind under pressure from senior ministers,
including Gordon Brown and Jack Straw. The key point is that these
ministers agreed to a referendum even though they continued to
argue that the treaty would not fundamentally change the relationship
between Britain and the EU.
That is still their view. Yet now they are denying the country one on
precisely the same grounds.
Planning for a referendum was sufficiently advanced during the last
Parliament that the Government brought forward legislation. During
the Second Reading debate, Mr Straw, then Foreign Secretary,
dismissed "myths" about the proposed constitution: "It does not hand
control of our borders, foreign policy or Armed Forces to the
European Union.
"It does not take away our seat at the United Nations, and nor does it
replace Her Majesty the Queen as Head of State... The treaty will set
a stable, predictable and limiting framework for the European Union."
Despite all these apparent safeguards, the Government still came to
the conclusion that it should be put to a referendum and included this
promise in its manifesto, as did the other parties. Yet now it maintains
that, since the treaty was "renegotiated" this year, a referendum is not
needed.
Ed Balls, the Schools Secretary, said yesterday: "I don't think the
British people want some big debate about Europe.... I don't think the
treaty is a big change." Even ministers who were most strongly in
favour of a public vote three years ago are said to be arguing against
one. No wonder people are cynical about politics.
What the British people want is evident from the many thousands of
readers who have signed our petition and from the YouGov poll
carried in The Daily Telegraph today. A substantial majority want a
referendum and do not accept the Government's protestations that
the treaty fails the accepted test for a referendum - that it amounts to
constitutional change involving a transfer of power.
Mr Brown is said to be considering a snap autumn election which,
should he win, he would take as a mandate for pushing the treaty
through Parliament without a referendum. This, then, is no longer a
question about procedural niceties; it is about trust in our political
leaders.
Labour conceded the principle of a referendum on precisely the same
basis that it now denies one. How can we leave an issue of this
importance to a general election when promises made in the last one
have been so casually tossed aside? If a referendum is un-British,
then so is lying to the voters.
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sonalview/3642414/Ifareferendumis
unBritishsoislying.html
This House would hold a referendum on any new EU treaty
The European Union (EU) is the economic and political partnership of 27
treaties signed in the wake of the Second World War, the European Union
established itself under its current title in 1993. Since this time it has grown in
size and undergone several constitutional changes, most notably the Treaty of
Lisbon, which came into force in 2009. Up until now the process through
which proposed amendments are accepted has not been uniform. For example
2004 caused a divide when some countries ratified the treaty through national
result the Treaty was rejected by popular vote in France and the Netherlands,
and abandoned. In October 2007 the idea was again resurrected in the Lisbon
streamline the workings of the European Union. However unlike the Reform
Treaty, when the Lisbon Treaty needed to be ratified many member states
including UK, Poland and the Czech Republic that had previously decided on
to not repeat the public vote was broadly accepted, in spite of the previous no
and that the public know little about EU constitutional issues and therefore
would not vote effectively. This debate will not cover whether or not reform
itself is beneficial, but only the vehicle through which reform should be agreed
upon.
The treaty creates an EU president and a more powerful foreign policy chief.
The document, signed at a ceremony at the city's historic Jeronimos Monastery, also
scraps veto powers in many policy areas.
But the Lisbon treaty incorporates some of the draft constitution's key reforms, and
several governments face domestic pressure over the document.
In a speech before the signing, European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso
called on European leaders to use the treaty to make freedom, prosperity and
solidarity an everyday reality for all European citizens.
Portuguese Prime Minister Jose Socrates, whose country holds the rotating EU
presidency, said the treaty would create a more modern, efficient and democratic
union.
The leaders signed the treaty, translated into the EU's 23 official languages, using
specially engraved silver fountain pens as a choir sang Beethoven's Ode to Joy.
UK signing
UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown signed the treaty later in the day after missing the
ceremony, citing a prior engagement in the British parliament.
The UK's opposition Conservatives accused Mr Brown of "not having the guts" to sign
the treaty, which is politically controversial in Britain, in public.
Having started this year with a celebration of its 50th birthday, the EU hopes the
signing of the Lisbon treaty will end the serious mid-life crisis brought about by the
death of the constitution, the BBC's Oana Lungescu reports.
There will be a lot of relief, said a senior European diplomat, but also some
apprehension about what happens next.
Ireland is the only country planning to hold a referendum, but most voters there
seem either undecided or indifferent.
Parliaments in Britain, the Netherlands and Denmark are also expected to give a
turbulent reception to the 250-page text.
However, Germany, France and Poland have pledged to be among the first to ratify
it, so that the new reforms can come into force in 2009 as planned.
There will also be a foreign policy chief, controlling a big budget and thousands of
diplomats and officials, and a permanent EU president appointed for up to five years.
But some already fear that instead of giving Europe a strong single voice in the
world, the new posts will only generate more rivalry, our correspondent adds.
The Treaty of Lisbon is the same as the rejected constitution. Only the
format has been changed to avoid referendums.
http://www.tuks.nl/docs/From_EU_Constitution_to_Lisbon_Treaty_april_2008.pdf
TheEuropeanUnion?OntheFrenchandDutchRejectionsoftheEUConstitution
ByMG.PanZhenqiangShanghaiInstitutefortheInternationalStrategicStudies
Beijing,June5,2005
http://www.kas.de/wf/doc/kas_6849544230.pdf
Why non and nee to the EU ... European Union founding members to reject the
Draft Treatydiffer ... 1 The French rejected the Constitution w ith 45.13%
http://www.unc.edu/euce/eusa2007/papers
/grosskopfa01h.pdf
The European Unions Reform Process: The Lisbon Treaty
https://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/
metadc689210/m1/1/high_res_d/RS21618
_2009Oct21.pdf
Europe in crisis after Dutch, French reject treaty
(Agencies)
Updated: 2005-06-02 07:42
The European Union was in disarray on Thursday after the Netherlands followed
France in resoundingly rejecting the bloc's new constitution, possibly stalling future
expansion and disrupting decision making.
The rejection of the charter by two of the six countries that founded the bloc in the
1950s could deal a fatal blow to a treaty designed to make the EU run more
smoothly following its enlargement from 15 to 25 states last year.
The votes also cast doubt on the EU's hopes for a stronger foreign policy and its
plans to expand further to the western Balkans, Turkey and Ukraine, and raised
questions about its appetite for economic reform amid mounting global competition.
The Dutch "No" vote of 61.6 percent was even more decisive than the nearly 55
percent scored by French opponents of the treaty. Turnout was also a strong 62.8
percent, well above the 39 percent in last year's European parliament election.
EU leaders urged member states to press on and ratify the constitution, but analysts
said they should admit the document is dead. EU leaders are due to decide how to
proceed when they meet for a regular summit on June 16-17.
"To have such a very, very large turnout after the French vote but also to have such
an overwhelming "No" is really crushing for the constitutional treaty," said Richard
Whitman from the Royal Institute of International Affairs in London.
Dutch Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende, who was criticized for a lacklustre "Yes"
campaign, could face a parliamentary vote of confidence on Thursday but it has little
chance of success. Balkenende has said he would not quit.
Latvia's parliament is expected to approve the treaty with a big majority on
Thursday, meaning 10 members representing almost half the EU's 454 million
citizens will have approved it.
UNCERTAIN FUTURE
Poland said on Wednesday it would decide how and when to ratify the constitution
after the EU summit. It had planned a referendum in October, but the opposition has
demanded a delay.
The Czech Republic said on Wednesday it would seek an extension of the November
2006 deadline for ratification to give countries that vote "No" more time to
reconsider.
"I myself and others must plead the European cause with lots of vigor," he told
reporters in Brussels.
Juncker, whose country holds the EU presidency, also said the Dutch and French
rejections do not alter the economic fundamentals underpinning the euro, despite
the single currency touching a new eight-month low after the Dutch result.
The euro has fallen by nearly 10 percent from its level in mid-March, when markets
began factoring in the possibility of national rejections of the treaty.
Former European Central Bank chief Wim Duisenberg agreed with Juncker that the
euro should not suffer lasting damage, but said the votes would be a blow to
economic reforms in the bloc.
"The political uncertainty created will hamper the efforts in Europe to introduce more
structural reforms which are so very, very necessary," Duisenberg told CNN
television. "It will take us a couple of years at least to reassemble ourselves."
The result is also likely to make it harder for EU leaders to reach a deal on the long-
term EU budget, already difficult because of a looming early German election.
Dutch Finance Minister Gerrit Zalm signaled the Netherlands would toughen its
demands for a cap to the EU budget after the "No" vote and push for a cut to the
Netherlands' per capita contribution, which is the highest of all 25 member states.
The votes could cast doubt on the EU's plans to expand further. Romania and
Bulgaria are likely to join in 2007 as their accession treaties have already been
signed but membership bids by Turkey, Ukraine and Balkan hopefuls might be
disrupted.
"Enlargement is going to be one of the big casualties of this decision," said Mendeltje
van Keulen, analyst at the Clingendael Institute near The Hague.
"Romania and Bulgaria have probably just got in time ... but for Croatia or Turkey
it's a different story."
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/200506/02/content_447855.htm
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Protocols annexed to the Treaty on European Union and to the Treaties
establishing ... FRENCH .
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ons_treaty_en.pdf
The Lisbon Treaty - Digital Library
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and ... Frenchvoters rejected the constitution by 55% to 45%
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metacrs10595/m1/1/high_res_d/RS21618_
2008Jul03.pdf
Holland rejected in ... effects to the Constitution for Europe which the French and ...
By transforming the legal character of the European Union, the Lisbon Treaty
http://www.people.ie/contreaty/np2.pdf
BBC News http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3954327.stm
European Policy Institutes Network (EPIN) Working Paper No. 12
http://www.epin.org/pdf/WP12_KurpasIncertiSchoenlau.pdf
Europa.eu.int
Reflections on the Treaty of Rome and todays EU ... the birth of the European
Union solely on the Treaty of ... the French and Dutch rejection of the EU ..
RobertSchumanReflectionsontheTreatyofRomeandtodaysEUJoaquinRoyJean
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EUCommission.TheJeanMonnet/RobertSchumanPaper
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flectionsTreatyRome_spec07_edi.pdf
German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French ... so when Ireland rejected the
Lisbon Treaty in a referendum in June ... Under the Lisbon Treaty, the EU gained .
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nstitutionLisbonTreaty.pdf
European Union (Referendum) ... rejected by the House of Lords in one parliamentary
session to ... it would hold a referendum in the UK on European Union ...
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titution.pdf
Implications of EEA membership outside the EU ... (having rejected membership in a
national referendum in ... had during the EU referendum campaign in the UK,
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the EU Referendum.
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update.pdf?la=en
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/documents/Pdfs/irelandbriefing.pdf
ConstitutionalReview:DevolutionintheUK
The Bingham Centre for the Rule of Law undertook a major Review of the implications of
devolution as it is developing for the UK as a whole. The Review seeks to assist the mapping of a
path to a new settlement for the UK government and parliament.
The Review was chaired by the Bingham Centre Director, Sir Jeffrey Jowell QC and consisted of
experts from law, history, political science, journalism and public finance.
The Final Report, titled A Constitutional Crossroads, was published on 20 May 2015 and launched
at an event at Middle Temple in London.
The Review concluded that the UK is at a constitutional crossroads and needs major changes to
work effectively. The piecemeal development of devolution means that the overall constitutional
fabric of the UK has been weakened. The process should start with a new Charter of the Union to
provide the framework for a fair and durable settlement between the four nations of the Union.
AConstitutionalCrossroadsReport
https://www.biicl.org/documents/595_a_c
onstitutional_crossroads.pdf?
showdocument=1
Giscard:EUTreatyistheconstitution
rewritten
ValryGiscardd'Estaing
ByTobyHelm,ChiefPoliticalCorrespondent
6:33PMGMT29Oct2007
ValryGiscardd'Estaing,thearchitectoftheabandonedEuropeanConstitution,hasadmittedthatthe
documenthasbeenrewrittenbyEUleadersinadifferentorderjusttoavoidtheneedforreferendums.
ThestatementbytheformerFrenchPresidentwhochairedthebodyofmorethan100European
politiciansthatframedtheoriginalconstitutionhasledtonewcallsforGordonBrowntogranttheBritish
peopleavote.
InanopenlettertotheFrenchnewspaper
LeMonde,MrD'Estaingsoughttoclarify
hisviewonthedifferencesifany
betweentwotreaties.
"Lookingatthecontent,"hewrote"the
resultisthattheinstitutionalproposalsof
theconstitutionaltreaty.arefound
completeintheLisbonTreaty,onlyina
differentorderandinsertedinformer
treaties.."
19 Oct 2007
Hemadeclearthatthepurposeofthe
rewrittenTreaty(nowcalledtheLisbon
Treaty)wastomakepeoplethinkthenewversiondidnotmeritbeingputtothepeopleinreferendums.
"Aboveall,itistoavoidhavingreferendumsthankstothefactthatthearticlesarespreadoutand
constitutionalvocabularyhasbeenremoved,"headded.
LessthantwoweeksagoGordonBrowngavehisblessingtotheEUReformTreatyatameetingof
EuropeanheadsofstateandgovernmentinLisbon.
HesaidtherewasnoneedfortheGovernmenttohonourits2005electionmanifestopromisetoholda
referendumbecausetheredraftedversionwasmuchlessfarreachingthanthedefunctConstitutional
Treaty.
Labourneverhadtohonouritspledgetoholdareferendumbecausebeforeitcouldholdone,the
ConstitutionalTreatyhadalreadybeenrejectedbyvotersinbothFranceandtheNetherlands.
TocomeintoforceanewEuropeanTreatyhastoberatifiedineachmemberstateeitherinareferendum
orinavoteinthenationalparliament.
WhileMrBrownandDavidMiliband,theForeignSecretary,havestucktothelinethatmanyofthebig
changeshavebeenremovedfromthetext,astringofothertopEUpoliticianshaveconfessedthatitisthe
sameastheconstitutioninallbutname.
MarkFrancois,theToryspokesmanonEuropesaidthatMrd'Estainghad"letthecatoutofthebag."
"ThemanwhochairedthebodywhichdraftedtheoriginalEUConstitutionhasnowconfessedthatits
revivedversion,thesocalledReformTreaty,wasdeliberatelydraftedtotryandavoidthepeopleof
Europehavingtheirsayonit.
"TheFrenchpeoplewereallowedavotein2005asweretheDutch,andtheIrishwillnowgetavoteonthe
revivedversionsowhycan'ttheBritishpeoplehavetheirsaytoo."
Morethan110,000havesignedTheDailyTelegraph's"LetthePeopleDecide"campaignforareferendum.
ThelatestYouGovpollforthispapershowedalmosttwiceasmanypeoplewouldvote"No"(38percent)
as"Yes"(20percent)ifareferendumwereheld.43percentsaidtheywereundecided.
Publisherswishingtoreproducephotographsonthispageshouldphone44(0)2079312921oremail
syndication@telegraph.co.uk
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/
1567804/GiscardEUTreatyisthe
constitutionrewritten.html
GiscardmakescaseforUnitedStatesof
Europe
ByDavidHaworthinBrusselsandTobyHelm
12:01AMGMT29Oct2002
TheEuropeanUnioncouldberenamedtheUnitedStatesofEuropeorevenUnitedEurope,accordingtoa
controversialproposalfromtheheadofaforumchargedwithreformingthecommunity.
Theidea,floatedbyValeryGiscardd'Estaing,theformerFrenchpresident,inafirstdraftreportbythe
ConventionontheFutureofEuropewasimmediatelydismissedbyBritishdiplomats.
"Thereisnotacatinhell'schanceofitbeingcalledtheUnitedStatesofEurope,"saidoneBritishofficial
whoinsistedthatthecurrentnamewasquitegoodenough.
"IfanythingitwillbecalledtheEuropeanUnion."
Withoutsuggestingapreference,MGiscardd'Estaing'sreportsaidtheunioncouldbecalledtheEuropean
Community,theEuropeanUnion,UnitedEuropeortheUnitedStatesofEurope.
EuroscepticshavelongclaimedthatEUintegrationistsharbourambitionstocreatea"UnitedStatesof
Europe",buildingonecountryoutofEurope'sindependentnationstatesonafederalstructuresimilarto
thatofAmerica.
MGiscardd'Estaingpresentedthedocumentaftermonthsofdiscussionbytheconventionwhichischarged
withchartingapoliticalcourseforanenlargedEUofupto30members.
"WeneedaconstitutionaltreatytomarkthebeginningofarenewedEuropeasweacceptnewmember
statesintoourmidst,aEuropeinwhichallcitizensshouldrecognisethemselvesasEuropean,"hetoldthe
convention.
Despiteprovokingargumentoverapossiblenamechange,Britishgovernmentsourceswelcomedthedraft
ofadocumentthatwillnotbefinaliseduntilthespring.
Whileitdodgedmanykeypointsoninstitutionalreform,itsuggestedthatanewconstitutionforEurope
shouldincludeacharteroffundamentalrightsandthatpeoplelivingintheEUshouldhavedualcitizenship
oftheUnionandoftheirowncountry.
ThedualcitizenshipideawasmetwithincredulityindiplomaticandofficialcirclesinBrusselsbecause
membersoftheconventionhavenotsofardebatedthesuggestion.
Onediplomatdescribeditas"abeeinGiscard'sbonnet"whichhadlittleprospectofeventualapproval.
ThedraftreportalsosuggestsawayforcountriestoleavetheEU,andtheideaofacongressthatwould
includeEuropeanParliamentmembersandnationalmembersofparliament.
ThisCongressofthePeoplesofEuropewouldnotpasslawsbutwouldoverseestrategicdirection.
ThetextalsoincludesthepossibilityofincludingafixedpresidentfortheEuropeanCouncilofheadsof
stateandgovernmentintheconstitution.
ThisproposalisbackedbyBritain,FranceandSpain,butopposedbymanysmallerstates,whichfearaloss
ofinfluencetothebiggerEUmembers.
TheconstitutionwouldreplacethemyriadoftreatiesandagreementsunderwhichtheEUcurrentlyworks
andaimtomaketheworkingsoftheblocmoreconcreteforitscitizens.
"WehavetoworktotellthecitizenswhatEuropeisaboutandgivethemarealfeelingof'Ibelongtothat
Europeanentity',"saidJeanLucDehaene,theformerBelgianprimeministerandMGiscardd'Estaing's
deputyattheconvention.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1411554/GiscardmakescaseforUnited
StatesofEurope.html
REPEATEDEUROPEANREFERENDA:FROMMAASTRICHTTOLISBON
http://www.su.lt/bylos/mokslo_leidiniai/jmd/10_01_26_priedas/jurgelionyte.pdf
GordonBrowntodefendEUTreatydeal
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andtheCzechRepublic'sMirek
Topolanek
ByBrunoWaterfieldandTobyHelminLisbon
8:32AMBST19Oct2007
GordonBrownwillturnhisfireonEuromythsashetriestodefyagrowingBritishandinternational
campaignforareferendumontheEuropeanUnionTreatyagreedintheearlyhoursofthismorning.
ThePrimeMinisterhascommittedtheUKtoanewReformTreatytoreplacetheEUConstitutionkilled
offbyDutchandFrenchreferendumrejectionstwoyearsago.
MrBrownjoinedotherEuropeanleadersataLisbonsummittocrackopenthechampagnetotoastanew
EUblueprintthat,hehopes,theGovernmentcanforcethroughparliamentwithoutgivingintotheclamour
forapopularvote.
ItisnowtimeforEuropetomoveonanddevotealloureffortstotheissuesthatmattertothepeopleof
Europeeconomicgrowth,jobs,climatechangeandsecurity,hesaid.
ButConservativeleaderDavidCameronhasrespondedbyaccusingtheGovernmentofbreakingits
promiseandtreatingpeople"likefools".
HetoldBBCBreakfastthatthe"redlines"insisteduponbyMrBrownwere"completeredherrings".
"Theyhavesignedaconstitution
thattransfers,thatgetsridof,
ourrighttosayno,ourveto,in
60areas,"hesaid.
"They'vecreatedapermanent
EUpresident,apermanent
foreignminister,adiplomatic
service.Thisisareally
significanttransferofpower
fromBritaintoBrussels."
Portugal,currentholdersofthe
EUpresidencyandhostsofthe
summit,hadinitiallyhopedthat
Europesleaderswouldtoastthe
Treatywithaglassofchilled
whiteAlentagowineoverafish
supperbuttalksdraggedonpast
dessert,andmidnight,asPoland
andItalyhaggledovertiny
detailsofthesmallprintuntil2amthismorning.
ThenewTreatyofLisbonwillbeformallysignedbyallEUleadersinPortugalscapitalonDecember
13beforebeingdebatedlinebylineinHouseofCommonsnextyearandenteringintoforceinJanuary1
2009.
ButtheGovernmentmustfacedownastridentcampaignforareferendumonaTreatythatmanyregardas
theoldEUConstitutioninnewclothes.
DavidMiliband,theForeignSecretary,claimedthatdemandsforapopularvotearebasedonscarestories
andmythsandthatreferendumsweretherefugeofdictatorsanddemagogues.
Wehaveaparliamentarydemocracy.WeelectMPseveryfouroffiveyears,thepeopleelectustodoa
job.Iftheylikeittheyrelectusiftheydontkickusout,hesaidthismorning.
Thatiswhereparliamentshouldcomeintoitsownlookingatthedetail,makingsurethatthequestionsare
flushedintotheopenandthegovernmentheldaccountable.
TheConservativeshavepledgedtouseuptothreemonthsofHouseofCommonsdebateintheearlyNew
Yeartorallypublicopinion,70percentbackareferendum,behindacampaignforapopularvote.
ShadowEuropeministerMarkFrancoissaid:InthesmallhoursofthenightGordonBrownhasagreedthe
revisedEUconstitutionwhichpotentiallytransfersmassivepowersfromBritaintotheEU.
"Hehadabsolutelynodemocraticmandatetodothisandwewillnowstepupourcampaigntosecurethe
referendumwhichhepromisedtheBritishpeopleallalong.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/
1566651/GordonBrowntodefendEU
Treatydeal.html
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- 71% oppose a second referendum on the Lisbon Treaty. Only 24% are in favour.
- Of those who expressed an opinion, 62% said they would vote "no" in a second
referendum, compared to 38% who would vote "yes".
- 17% of those who voted "yes" in the recent referendum would vote "no" in a
second referendum, while only 6% of those who voted "no" would now vote "yes".
Perhaps most significantly of all, those who did not vote last time would vote more
than two-to-one against in a second referendum: 57% would vote "no" and 26%
would vote "yes".
- 67% agreed with the statement that "politicians in Europe do not respect Ireland's
no vote". Only 28% disagreed.
- 61% disagreed with the statement that "If all of the other 26 EU countries ratify the
Treaty in their parliaments then Ireland has to change its mind and support the
Treaty." Only 32% agreed.
- 53% said they would be less likely to vote for Brian Cowen at the next election if he
called a second referendum. In particular, 43% of Fianna Fail voters said they would
be less likely to vote for him.
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Duringthe1930s,thegovernmentofirefrequentlystateditscommitmenttoindependenceinforeign
policy.
InApril1939deValeramadeitclearhewouldkeephiscountryoutofanypotentialwar.
On4thSeptember1939,threedaysafterGermanyinvadedPoland,theDilpassedtheEmergencyPowers
Act,givingthegovernmentextensivepowersoverthecountry.
DeValeradeclaredirewouldremainneutralintheSecondWorldWar,whichwasreferredtoas'The
Emergency'.
irewastheonlydominionintheCommonwealthnottojointhewar.
Whydidireremainneutral?
NeutralitywasawayofshowingiresindependencefromBritain.
ThispolicyhadbeenmadepossiblebythereturnoftheTreatyPortsin1938.
irewasnotequippedtofightawarbecauseitsarmywassmallanditsweakeconomymeantmoneywas
tooscarcetobespentonmilitaryaction.
DeValerafearedsupportingthewarwouldsplitthegovernmentandcountry,andalthoughmany
sympathisedwiththeAlliedcause,themajorityoftheIrishpopulationwantedneutralitybecauseitwasa
British,notanIrish,war.
SomepeoplefeltmoreofaconnectionwithGermanythanBritaingiventheformer'sassistanceduringthe
1916Rising.
Othercountries,suchastheUSA,haddeclaredtheirneutralityin1939,andirefollowedtheirexample.
WhydidBritainwantanendtoire's
neutrality?
AsthewarcontinuedirecameunderincreasingpressurefrombothsidesoftheAtlantictojointhe
fighting.
Britainmadeseveralattemptstopersuadeiretoenterthestruggle,especiallyafterWinstonChurchill
succeededChamberlainasPrimeMinisterofBritaininMay1940.
TheBritishwantedtoendire'sneutrality(removelink)because::
Britain was suffering heavy shipping loses in the Atlantic. Re-routing British
merchant ships to ports in Northern Ireland, instead of using ports in E ire,
was placing a great strain on the vital supply route across the Atlantic from
the USA
Britain was worried E ire might be invaded and used by Germany as a base to
attack it from, effectively becoming a stepping stone to Britain
E ire did not have blackout regulations. Therefore, Northern Ireland was an
easily identifiable target for the Luftwaffe.
HowdidtheAlliesattempttogetireto
jointhewar?
AsthewarcontinuedirecameunderincreasingpressurefrombothsidesoftheAtlantictojointhe
fighting.
Britainmadeseveralpoliticalandeconomicattemptstopersuadeiretoenterthestruggle,especiallyafter
WinstonChurchillsucceededChamberlainasPrimeMinisterofBritaininMay1940.
Political pressure
InJune1940,ChurchillproposedtheendingofthepartitionofIrelandinreturnforBritishforcesusing
ire'snavalbases.
DeValerarefusedtheofferbecausehewasunsureiftheBritishwouldhonourthedecisionafterthewar,
especiallyiftheunionistswereunwilling.
HethoughtBritainmightlosethewarsothepromisewouldbeworthless.Healsodidnotwantto
compromiseire'shardwonindependencefromBritain.
SeveralsubsequentattemptsbyChurchillin1941and1942tosecureanendtoire'sneutralitywere
unsuccessful.
Economic pressure
BritainreducedthenumberofitsshipsusedbothtotransportgoodstoireandtoprotectIrishcargoships.
iredidnotreceiveinternationalfinancialaidundertheUSA'sLendLeaseprogrammebecauseofits
neutrality.
Propaganda pressure
AftertheUSAjoinedthewarinDecember1941,itsPresident,FDRoosevelt,alsoputpressureonireto
jointheAllies.
Hefeltiresneutralitywasdetrimentaltothewareffort,soamediacampaignportrayingdeValeraas
proGermanwaslaunched.
Relationsdeterioratedfurtherin1942when,inspiteofdeValerasprotests,UStroopsarrivedinNorthern
Irelandtotrainandtohelpwithdefence.
Whatdid'BenevolentNeutrality'mean?
Althoughofficiallyneutral,iredidhelptheAlliesinanumberofways.
OfficiallyirewasneutralduringWorldWarTwo.Forexample,whenHitlerandRooseveltdied,de
ValeravisitedtheDublinembassiesofbothcountriestoconveyhisofficialcondolences.
However,deValeradidcooperatewithBritaininanumberofimportantways:
E ire allowed British airmen who crashed on its territory to return home, but
German pilots were interned
In 1941 fire crews from Drogheda and Dundalk helped when Belfast was
blitzed by the Luftwaffe
The RAF was allowed to fly over the Donegal Air Corridor in order to patrol
the Western Approaches during the Battle of the Atlantic, saving British
planes a 100-mile detour
In February 1945 de Valera gave permission for the British to establish secret
radar bases in E ire
PlansweredrawnupbybothBritainandireofficialsforjointcooperationifGermanyinvadedandfor
theBritisharmybasedinNorthernIrelandtomoveintoire.
However,allcooperationwaskeptsecret.MostmembersoftheBritishandIrishgovernmentwere
unawareofit.
Whatimpactdidthewarhaveonire?
Despiteneutrality,almosteveryaspectoflifeinirewasaffected.
Many items were in short supply because 95% of imports had previously
been transported by British ships
The scarcity of coal meant electricity was available for only a few hours each
day. Irish turf was a poor substitute. By the end of 1940 there was very little
petrol in E ire
Thirty-four people died and several hundred houses were destroyed when
Luftwaffe bombs accidentally fell on E ire in 1941
Nevertheless,irewasaffectedlessthanBritainandNorthernIreland.
WhatwereeffectsofneutralityonAnglo
Irishrelations?
DeValeraandChamberlaininitiallyhadagoodworkingrelationship,partlybecauseconscriptionhadnot
beenextendedtoNorthernIrelandinearly1939.
RightupuntiltheoutbreakofwarinSeptember1939,ChamberlainhadthoughtdeValerawouldmake
somesortofdefensiveagreementwithBritain.Inparticular,hehopedfortheuseoftheTreatyPorts.He
wasthereforedisappointedbyire'sneutrality.
ThegulfinAngloIrishrelationswidenedfurtherafterChurchillbecamePrimeMinisterinJune1940.
ire'srejectionofChurchill'soffertoendpartitioninreturnforire'sparticipationinthewarandthe
removalofBritishprotectionforIrishcargovesselssouredrelations
DeValera'sprotestatthestationingofAmericantroopsinNorthernIrelandandhisvisittotheGerman
embassyinApril1945infuriatedtheBritish.
Attheendofthewar,thedeteriorationinrelationscontinuedwhenChurchillrevealedhehadconsidered
takingoverireduringthewar.
HealsocausedresentmentbypraisingNorthernIreland'scontributiontothewareffortbutcriticisingire's
role,inspiteofits'benevolentneutrality'.
Whatweretheeffectsofneutralityon
EiresrelationshipwithNorthern
Ireland?
Thewarledtoafurtherdeclineinnorthsouthrelations.
In1939theyclashedoverire'sneutralitywhichCraigcondemnedasdisloyal.Thelackofablackoutin
irealsocausedfriction.
In1940CraigbrandedChurchill'sanddeValera'sdiscussionsonendingpartitionanactoftreachery.
In1941theissueofconscriptionfurthersouredrelations:
HoweverdeValera'squickresponseduringtheBlitzin1941throughthesupplyoffirefighterstohelpin
Belfastwasmuchappreciated.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/education/guides/zsm26sg/revision
The Saville report released on Tuesday stripped away key lies that
the British establishment had told for 38 years about the murder of 14
civilians in Derry, Northern Ireland, in 1972.
Lord Saville says that none of the casualties on Bloody Sunday was
posing a threat or doing anything that would justify their shooting.
They were innocent. None of the soldiers fired in response to attacks
by petrol bombers or stone throwers.
He adds that many of the soldiers lied about their actions. Lord
Saville talks of the soldiers of 1 Para losing self control on Bloody
Sunday, and of the widespread loss of fire discipline.
The report says the soldiers involved in the massacre made
knowingly untrue statements. It also points out that the soldiers did
not fire by accident.
For instance the soldier known as Lance Corporal F did not fire in
panic or fear without giving proper thought to whether he had
identified a person posing a threat of causing death or serious injury.
However the report exonerates the British state for the massacre and
retells an old lie against one of the victims.
Saville dismisses any idea of a conspiracy or cover-up or pre-
mediation by the army or the state.
He says it cannot be sustained that either that what happened on
Bloody Sunday was intended and planned by the authorities or that it
was foreseen by the authorities.
Saville found no evidence of toleration or encouragement for the
use of unjustified lethal force saying it was not pushed from the top.
While Saville says British officers committed errors of judgment he
does not apportion blame.
The declaration that the victims of Bloody Sunday were recognised
as innocent was greeted by cheers of the thousands in Guildhall
Square, the site of the inquiry and where the original anti-internment
march was attempting to reach.
However in the case of one victim, Gerald Donaghey, Saville says
that nail bombs were probably on Gerald Donaghey when he was
shot.
However we are sure that Gerald Donaghey was not preparing or
attempting to throw a nail bomb when he was shot and we are
equally sure that he was not shot because of his possession of nail
bombs.
Over the years many witnesses have come forward to confirm that
before and after Geralds death he did not have nail bombs on his
person.
Saville concludes that the shootings on Bloody Sunday were not the
result of any plan to shoot selected ringleaders.
But he also notes that Major General Ford, the commander of land
forces in Northern Ireland, expressed the view that he was coming to
the conclusion that the minimum force required to deal with the Derry
young hooligans was, after clear warnings, to shoot selected
ringleaders.
Savilles report is a huge climbdown and its welcomed.
David Cameron admitted on Tuesday that British soldiers had shot
unarmed demonstrators on the street.
That admission would not have come without decades of
campaigning by the families of the victims and others. Such
campaigners were often slurred and vilified.
But the report does not mention unlawful killing and murder. There is
no other way to describe what happened on Bloody Sunday.
There was a conspiracy, there was pre-mediation, and there was a
cover-up by the highest levels of the state.
Tony Doherty, the son of Patrick Doherty, spoke to the crowd of
thousands outside of the Guildhall in Derry. Patrick Doherty was
murdered as he tried to call for safety.
He said, The parachute regiment were frontline assassins for
Britains political and military elite.
Our campaign was for justice but we didnt fight for ourselves.
We fought for all those who have suffered at the hands of
unaccountable power.
The repression we suffered was the same as against ordinary
people all over the world as in Sharpeville, Tiananmen Square,
Darfur, Fallujah and Gaza.
Families tore up the Widgery Report at the Guildhall, which was full of
lies.
All of those who organised and carried out murder on Bloody Sunday
should be brought to justice especially those at the top of the army
and the state.
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spdf/en/articles/2001/
01/inq-j31.pdf
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ille_report_now.html
Orange disorders exposed
Documents released in Belfast, Dublin and London provide a new insight into
political developments on both sides of the Irish Sea in the late 1980s.
They have been made public under the 30-year rule, which has seen a trove of
previously secret Government papers declassified.
Both leaders were in close contact throughout 1986 as the UK and Republic
attempted to stand behind the Anglo-Irish Agreement amid growing unionist
anger.
The agreement had granted the Republic a formal role in Northern Ireland for
the first time.
The Prime Minister and Taoiseach met on December 6, 1986, in London - and
Mrs Thatcher made a series of blunt admissions in assessing the security
situation along the border.
"You (the Republic) haven't the resources to maintain protection on the other
side of the border," she said.
"I do feel very depressed at times about the whole situation. The violence has not
been defeated. The SDLP have not done what we are expecting them to do.
"However, it is Christmas - and I had better stop feeling depressed," she said.
Mr FitzGerald praised the RUC for the work it had done in co-operating with the
Garda.
The meeting concluded with one Irish civil servant noting: "The Prime Minister
then went on... including a rather wistful reference to whether she could
continue, in all seriousness, to send young men to their death in Northern
Ireland."
This was due to the upsurge in unionist and loyalist protests and demonstrations
over the Anglo-Irish deal.
Mrs Thatcher warned that such a reaction was "negative and very dangerous".
"The unionists are saying they have lost everything and have got nothing," she
said.
One briefing note warned that RUC Chief Constable Sir John Hermon (below)
was "genuinely frightened" by the implications of one demonstration at
Hillsborough.
Another briefing note warned that: "Dublin has not grasped the fundamental
reality that Northern Ireland is and will remain ungovernable."
Files released by the Public Record Office in Belfast include new insights into
Anglo-Irish relations in the 1980s.
One memo from the British Ambassador to Dublin stated "if it were not for
history we should get on well with the Irish", noting good relations on every
matter - except Northern Ireland.
In London, the files shed new light on the fall of Mrs Thatcher after 11 years in
power.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/archive/thatchers-shock-admission-that-uk-got-
it-wrong-on-irish-border-in-1921-35328461.html
15-05-2015, 10:58
The agreement had a strong institutional framework. Article 2 represented one powerful axis. In part
2(a) it established an Intergovernmental Conference concerned with Northern Ireland and with
relations between the two parts of Ireland to deal on a regular basis with "(i) political matters; (ii)
security and related matters; (iii) legal matters, including the administration of justice; and (iv) the
promotion of cross-border cooperation"; and 2(b) stated that "the United Kingdom Government
accepts that the Irish Government will put forward views and proposals on matters relating
to Northern Ireland within the field of activity of the Conference insofar as those matters are not the
responsibility of a devolved administration in Northern Ireland." It could be said that Article 2 gave
constitutional nationalism greater influence than it had ever enjoyed since partition. The
countervailing axis existed in Article 1, which attempted to reassure unionists of the
prevailing constitutional status of Northern Ireland, and in Articles 4(b), 5(c), and 10(b), which acted
as a catalyst toward achieving devolution in place of an enhanced role for the conference.
Additionally, Article 11 allowed for a review of the working of the conference within three years.
The AIA is significant for three reasons. First, both governments were now committed to working
together on the historic Anglo-Irish conflict. A permanent Anglo-Irish secretariat (staffed by senior
personnel from Dublin and London) was a manifestation of its rigor. The structures were built to
withstand boycotts, physical threats, general strikes, or whatever. The Intergovernmental Conference,
chaired by the British secretary of state and the Irish foreign minister, represented both structure and
process. Second, the agreement received much international approbation. A goodwill manifest in
Article 10(a) promoted cross-border social and economic development by securing
international support through the International Fund for Ireland (IFI), which was established on 18
September 1986 with financial support from the United States, Canada, and New Zealand. In the next
fourteen years the IFI was associated with investing 1.1 billion pounds. Third, the agreement
symbolized profound attitudinal change. Article 1 represented a historic shift in Irish
nationalists' attitude toward Northern Ireland. Equally, British concessions to the Irish heralded an era
of intense intergovernmental cooperation. They had set in motion a process of change that was to
culminate in the Belfast Agreement of April 1998.
SEE ALSO Northern Ireland: Constitutional Settlement from Sunningdale to Good Friday; Northern
Ireland: The United States in Northern Ireland since 1970; Ulster Politics under Direct Rule; Primary
Documents: Anglo-Irish Agreement (15 November 1985)
That Dil ireann hereby approves the terms of the Anglo-Irish Agreement, 1985,
between the Government of Ireland and the Government of the United Kingdom which
was signed at Hillsborough, Co. Down, on 15th November, 1985 and copies of which
have been laid before Dil ireann.
Debate resumed on amendment No. 1:
To delete all words after Dil ireann and substitute the following:
having regard to Articles 2 and 3 of the Constitution of Ireland;
recalling the unanimous Declaration of Dil ireann adopted on the joint proposition of
An Taoiseach, John A. Costello and the Leader of the Opposition, Eamon de Valera, on
10 May 1949 solemnly reasserting the indefeasible right of the Irish Nation to the unity
and integrity of the national territory;
recalling that all the parties in the New Ireland Forum were convinced that a united
Ireland in the form of a sovereign independent state would offer the best and most
durable basis for peace and stability;
re-affirming the unanimous conclusion of the Report of the New Ireland Forum that the
particular structure of political unity which the Forum would wish to see established is a
unitary state achieved by agreement and consent, embracing the whole island of Ireland
and providing irrevocable guarantees for the [2705] protection and preservation of both the
unionist and nationalist identities;
while recognising the urgent need that exists for substantial improvement in the situation
and circumstances of the nationalist section of the community in the North of Ireland and
approving any effective measures which may be undertaken for that purpose, refuses to
accept any recognition of British sovereignty over any part of the national territory;
and requests the Government to call upon the British Government to join in convening
under the joint auspices of both governments a constitutional conference representative
of all the traditions in Ireland to formulate new constitutional arrangements which would
lead to uniting all the people of Ireland in peace and harmony.
(Deputy Haughey)
An Ceann Comhairle: Deputy Denis Gallagher moved the
adjournment of the debate and has 27 minutes remaining.
The two Governments may have agreed to make determined efforts to resolve any
differences that may arise but the Conference will not be a decision-making body. Full
responsibility for the decisions and administration of Government will remain with the
United Kingdom Government north of the Border and with the Irish Government south of
the Border.
An Ceann Comhairle: Would the Deputy give the reference?
Mr. D. Gallagher: The Irish Times, Tuesday, 19 November.
The Tnaiste: This agreement is a major step towards the
bringing together of opposing traditions and the healing of ancient
wounds. It meets the requirements of Labour Party policy on Northern
Ireland. It recognises the aspiration to the unity of the people and
territory of this island through reconciliation.
An essential element in the search for that reconciliation is the formal assurance given in
the agreement that only if the people of the North consent to unity, would unity come
about. But it does more than this: in article 4 (b) the agreement states that it is the
declared policy of the United Kingdom Government that responsibility in respect of
certain matters within the powers of the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland should
be [2713] devolved within Northern Ireland on a basis which would secure widespread
acceptance throughout that community and the Irish Government support this policy. The
agreement provides a stimulus to efforts within the North to find effective structures for
devolution which will have widespread acceptance. As we have made clear, our
involvement in devolved matters will cease when those structures are agreed by both
communities.
This agreement commits the two Governments in accordance with the policy of our party
to promote the economic and social development of those areas of both parts of Ireland
which have suffered most severely from the consequences of the instability of recent
years. In furtherance of this endeavour we will be seeking international support,
particularly from the Socialist group in Europe from whom I received a telegram of
support on Monday last. I believe that this agreement demonstrates the result of that
realistic, honest and positive dialogue with the British Government for which the Labour
Party have called in the past and which we have been pursuing in Government since the
adoption of the Forum report.
We accept that Deputies have the right to scrutinise this agreement which has been
prepared painstakingly and with difficulty since the conclusion of the Forum. We want
this House to examine its implications and to debate it thoroughly.
It is a major agreement. But let us also remember our obligations as constitutional
Nationalists to each other and especially to our fellow members of this Forum in the
SDLP. Let us remember [2714] also the sensitivities of the Unionist community, the validity
of whose identity and sense of Britishness we accepted in the Forum report as a major
reality FR. 5.1 (9) and 5.2 (4).
I plead, therefore, today for understanding and restraint. I plead for understanding of this
agreement for what it is, and I plead for restraint in its interpretation. This is a time to
lower the political temperature, not to raise it. It is a time for cool heads, not hot heads.
We have been through too much suffering on this island and there is so much at stake. I
believe the great majority of Deputies in this House are conscious that the eyes of the
world are upon Dil ireann today. This debate will be a test of our political maturity as a
nation.
In the Forum report we recognised the immense cost of violence on this island. We all
joined to reject and condemn paramilitary organisations and to reject and condemn all
who resort to terror and murder to achieve their ends. We strongly urged people in
Ireland of all traditions and all those who were concerned about Ireland elsewhere in the
world to refuse any support or sympathy to these paramilitary bodies and associated
organisations
We said that the acts of murder and violence of these organisations and their denial of
the legitimate rights of others have the effect of undermining all efforts to secure peace
and political progress. As constitutional Nationalists we said we were determined to
secure justice for all traditions. We called in the Forum for the strongest possible support
for political progress through the democratic process Chapter 4.11.
By this agreement we are setting our face resolutely against the path of violence and we
are following instead the path of political progress. We have sought in this agreement
the acceptance of the validity of both the Nationalist and Unionist identities in Ireland and
the democratic rights of every citizen on this island Forum Report 5.2 (4). I believe
that we have taken a great step along that road. This agreement has the aim of
promoting peace and stability in Northern [2715] Ireland, of helping to reconcile the two
major traditions in Ireland and of creating a new climate of friendship and co-operation
between the peoples of Britain and Ireland. The agreement commits us to improve co-
operation in combating terrorism. We will implement this element of the agreement, and
every other element in it, wholeheartedly.
The constitutional Nationalist party of the North, the SDLP, have accepted this
agreement. I should like to pay a tribute to the unremitting efforts of that party and their
leaders whose political efforts down through the years have been an example to all of
us, particularly in the South who do not have to work in the same trying conditions as
they do in the North. This House should pay a special tribute to John Hume, Samus
Mallon, Austin Currie, Joe Hendron, Brid Rogers, Eddie Magready and others in the
SDLP who for a long time have pursued the politics of constitutional nationalism in
Northern Ireland. They did so while retaining a dignity that we expected from them. We
are all indebted to them. They are realists. They have to be realists. Their party was born
of the agony of the last 16 years and they are the Nationalists who must face in every
minute of their day the continuing problems of Northern Ireland, the lack of peace and
stability, the deep unemployment among workers, the lack of acceptance of the
Nationalist identity, and the murderous violence of the IRA. These are the people in the
field. They have said they are satisfied with this agreement. They do not see it as
impeding their right to work for unity. On the contrary, they see the agreement as
recognising the legitimacy of the Nationalist position. We warmly welcome their support
as we embark on this further stage of the Anglo-Irish process.
There are two major questions in this debate. The first is the question of the status of
Northern Ireland and the second is the question of undertaking action now to make the
political progress which is required to bring peace and reconciliation to Northern Ireland.
First, the question of status: as the [2716] Taoiseach said in his opening remarks to the
press conference at Hillsborough on Friday last, he and the British Prime Minister came
to the negotiations with different historical perspectives, and as it were, the different title
deeds. The British constitutional position on Northern Ireland remains the same. Our
constitutional position on Northern Ireland also remains unchanged. Articles 2 and 3 of
our Constitution remain. In answer to those who have suggested that Articles 2 and 3 of
our Constitution should have been amended, I need only point to the hysteria whipped
up in the last few days to show that both Governments were wise to maintain the
constitutional positions as they now are and to concentrate on the facts of the situation.
Those facts of the situation include the fact that any change in the status of Northern
Ireland would come about only with the consent of a majority of the people of Northern
Ireland. In this House on 10 November 1981, the Leader of the Opposition gave it as his
view that those words merely recognised the practicalities of the situation.
The Leader of the Opposition opposes this agreement now on the basis that the
Government would be acting unconstitutionally in proceeding with it. His arguments in
support of this contention seem to me to be thin, to say the least. He has put forward
diffuse and non-specific points and makes his case by making general assertions to the
effect that the Government are acting in a manner repugnant to the Constitution of
Ireland by fully accepting British sovereignty over a part of the national territory and by
purporting to give legitimacy to a British administration in Ireland.
In making these assertions the Leader of the Opposition assures us he is not indulging
in rhetoric. How can he sustain this when he has made no more specific arguments
against the Government's position then those made in his speech yesterday? If the
Leader of the Opposition can advance specific comprehensible arguments on this issue
he has a duty to this House, to the Constituation and to the people to enumerate
them [2717] before this debate concludes so that the House and the people may make a
reasoned judgment. For my part I cannot see any formal surrender of de jure Irish
sovereignty over Northern Ireland.
The Leader of the Opposition has made the point also that no future Government need
be bound by the provisions of an international agreement such as this if it were
incompatible with the Constitution. His point appears to be that the Government do not
have the competence to make this agreement and that therefore it is and will be void
and inoperative ex tunc. I believe this is entirely unsustainable. Deputy Haughey has not
demonstrated any specific or general want of legal or constitutional competence on the
part of the Government in the signing of this agreement. More important, as Deputy
Haughey has raised this point, the House is entitled to know what his intention might be
in relation to the agreement. Does he intend to denounce it or to treat it as void? We
should be allowed to know, to be let in on the secret. Certainly, the constitutional
Nationalists of Northern Ireland will want to know his attitude on this. It is too important
for them for there to be any doubt about his position.
It is a practicality of the situation that the only unity which constitutional Nationalists
would want is a unity achieved without violence and by consent. Can any one of us here
seriously imagine a unity brought about by force? Can anyone here imagine what it
would be like to live in a united Ireland with one million people in rebellion? No Leader of
our State has envisaged such a prospect. I will simply quote Mr. de Valera in this House
on 24 June 1947. He said: I believe that it [the problem of Northern Ireland] cannot be
solved, in any circumstances that we can now see, by force and that if it were solved by
force, it would leave a situation behind it which would mean that this State would be in
an unstable position.
I believe passionately that the abjuring of the use of force is not only a practicality, that it
must also be a principle in politics. It must be a principle that we [2718] will have nothing to
do with those who seek to shoot and bomb our fellow Irishmen until they acquiesce in a
united Ireland.
What kind of love of Ireland is that? James Connolly said it best:
reland, without her people is nothing to me; and the man who is bubbling over with love
and enthusiasm for Ireland and can yet pass unmoved through our streets and witness
all the wrong and the suffering, the shame and the degradation wrought upon the people
of Ireland aye, wrought by Irish men upon Irish men and women without burning to
end it, is, in my opinion, a fraud and a liar in his heart no matter how he loves that
combination of chemical elements he is pleased to call Ireland.
I turn now to the question of political progress and this is what we should keep to the
forefront of this debate and to the forefront of the development of Irish politics. Connolly
recognised another practicality the practicality of human suffering and human
deprivation. We must ask ourselves honestly: do we want to do something to end this
problem? Or do we want to do nothing? Do we want to postpone forever the day of
action? Or do we want to start now? I stated in my speech to the last Labour Party
conference held earlier this year in Cork that we were prepared to take a risk for peace.
Do we want to take that risk? Or do we want to take no risk at all? I need hardly say that
it seems to me that the path of taking no risk at all, is the path of greatest risk. For if we
leave the business of ending the Northern Ireland problem to the gunmen we can only
push back the possibility of unity; and we can only promote the danger to our democratic
institutions.
Twelve years ago, my respected predecessor as Leader of the Labour Party, Brendan
Corish, said in the debate on Sunningdale, as reported at columns 2029-30 of the
Official Report:
The events of the past five years have shown us that there is no magic way
by [2719] which the Border could be ended. If it has done that it is difficult to say it
has done some good. At least it may prevent further loss of life.
Brendan Corish was right to introduce that note of caution. Twelve years on, there are
still some among us who believe there is a magic way. Of course, there is no magic way
by which the Unionist community of Northern Ireland will agree to a united Ireland. Their
agreement will have to come in time, as we act towards them with patience, with honesty
and sincerity, with transparency of motive and with hard application to the solving of
immediate problems. The creation of conditions in which the Nationalist community in
the North can more readily identify with structures of government will help peace and
stability to emerge in this island. For Unionists who have suffered the rejection of the
most precious human right the right to life in the past 16 years, this agreement with
the British Government provides a practical and careful plan not only to ease their
present suffering, but to help towards the re-establishment of devolution on a basis of
widespread acceptance, and to help towards the creation of better and more prosperous
times for all.
It is important to be clear both about the nature of the role of the Irish Government within
the Conference and about the background to that role. First the background: it is not
right to suggest that the British Government before Hillsborough always accepted that
the Irish Government had a right to put forward views and proposals in relation to the
North. Such a right was never before formally accorded to the Irish Government. What is
more, Deputies will remember that British ministers, and indeed the present Prime
Minister, have denied categorically in the past that such a right was recognised by the
British Government. For example, in the House of Commons on 29 July 1982, following
discussion between a Minister of State at [2720] the Foreign Office and an Irish
Ambassador which had taken place on 26 July, Mrs. Thatcher said the following:
My right hon. Friend the Minister of State, Foreign and Commonwealth Office, made it
perfectly clear to the Irish Ambassador that no commitment exists for Her Majesty's
Government to consult the Irish Government on matters affecting Northern Ireland. That
has always been our position. We reiterate and emphasise it, so that everyone is clear
about it.
Of course, Irish Governments have always believed that we have a right and a duty to
ensure that the British Government are aware of our views on the North. All parties here
are agreed on that. It is a fact, however, that that was never accepted as a right on our
part by the British Government and, what is more, it is a fact that it was formally denied
on a number of occasions.
Second, the Agreement: article 2 (b) of the Anglo-Irish Agreement 1985 states: The
United Kingdom Government accept that the Irish Government will put forward views
and proposals on matters relating to Northern Ireland within the field of activity of the
Conference...
It is also important that we should understand that the right now for the first time formally
given to the Irish Government to put forward views and proposals on matters relating to
Northern Ireland goes beyond that; it goes beyond a right to consult or to be consulted.
The agreement, again in article 2 (b), in a provision which governs the entire working of
the Conference on matters relating to Northern Ireland states that, in the interest of
promoting peace and stability, determined efforts shall be made through the Conference
to resolve any differences.
Thus on the central question of the role and nature of the Conference itself, the position
of the Irish Government has changed in two fundamental respects: first, the British
Government have for the first time formally accepted the right of the Irish Government to
put forward views and proposals on Northern Ireland, [2721] having previously rejected
that position; and, secondly, the two Governments for the first time commit themselves,
as a matter of obligation under an international agreement, to the effect that determined
efforts shall be made to resolve any differences.
I cannot claim ties of kinship with anyone in the North. I do claim many friendships, both
among members of my own profession and among sportsmen who live in the North. In
every single case, these are friendships that I value deeply, and friends from whom I
have learned a lot. They are Catholics and Protestants, Unionists and Nationalists, and I
cannot honestly say that I feel closer to one or the other.
I hope and believe that these many friends will know of me that I have no interest in
forcing my aspirations down their throats. I would be dismayed to discover although I
do not think I shall that any one of them believed that I had abandoned either my
Republican aspiration on the one hand, or my commitment to dialogue, persuasion and
above all, consent, on the other.
I must and do respect the views of those who have lived closer to violence than I have. I
have had many opportunities to discuss the stagnation of ordinary life with them, and I
believe as a result that many of them many who are Unionist among them believe
increasingly that the only way forward is to talk across the divide; to break down barriers
of distrust that years of ascendancy have built up.
Many of these people represent the middle ground. I appeal particularly to them to
suspend judgment to wait and see. I believe they will discover that the Irish
Government are operating in good faith. And I believe that that good faith will be
translated into action to promote dialogue, dialogue aimed at bridging the sectarian gap
and building trust between two communities who, in the final analysis, will be dependent
on each other for economic and social progress. [2722] I cannot help but reflect that my
political perspective owes nothing to the divisiveness of the twenties. Like the rest of my
generation, I have no link with that tragic period, like the rest of my generation, I want to
look to the future and not agonise over the past. While I recognise fully that our history is
part of what we are, I prefer to believe that the generation of which I am part will make its
own history.
How is that history likely to be read? Is it to be a story of continuing violence and strife; a
history of chronic unemployment for young people in the North; a history of sectarian
division; a history of a continuing period of no opportunities and no hope? Or is it
possible that this generation can write a history of reconstruction, of new opportunities,
of peace and respect for one another? I believe it is. Around the world, it is this
generation that has led the move towards greater democracy in many authoritarian
rgimes. It is this generation that has alerted the world to the insanity of nuclear arms. It
is this generation that has inspired the worldwide response to hunger and tragedy in the
Third World.
Here in Ireland, North and South, it is this generation ultimately that will confront the
economic and social challenges of the end of this century and the beginning of the next.
It is this generation that will write the history from now on. I hope and believe that there
are in this generation the seeds of new opportunities and new awareness, coupled with
a growing rejection of the nihilistic violence of those who have no interest in building
anything.
The Government have dealt with the practicalities of the situation as we see them, not
with dreams and fantasies. We have calculated what we can do now, not what could be
done sometime. We have judged our own capacity to act, not our capacity to wish. We
will not be hypnotised by prejudice or propaganda. The Government will act with tenacity
in implementing this agreement because we believe it to be in the interest of all the
people of these islands, but especially of the people of Ireland, North and
South, [2723] Nationalist and Unionist, Catholic, Protestant and Dissenter.
Mr. Allen: May I put on the record of the House
An Ceann Comhairle: No, you cannot
Mr. Allen: the wish of so many backbenchers
An Ceann Comhairle: The Deputy is out of order.
Mr. Allen: I want to know if we will get an opportunity to place
our views on the record.
An Ceann Comhairle: If the Deputy wanted to raise that point
he should have done so yesterday morning when the order of this
debate was being regulated.
Mr. Allen: I am asking for an extension of time today
Mr. O'Kennedy: I hope that this point is not being made in my
time. Before giving its approval to the terms of the Anglo-Irish
Agreement as proposed by the Government, Dil ireann must
examine its terms and consider its implications in an objective and
detailed manner. The Taoiseach has acknowledged that the length of
the negotiations and the level at which they were conducted reflect
the extreme complexity of the issues being tackled and the delicacy
of the issues at stake.
I hope that this point is not being made in my time. Before giving its approval to the
terms of the Anglo-Irish Agreement as proposed by the Government, Dil ireann must
examine its terms and consider its implications in an objective and detailed manner. The
Taoiseach has acknowledged that the length of the negotiations and the level at which
they were conducted reflect the extreme complexity of the issues being tackled and the
delicacy of the issues at stake.
Each Member who contributes here has but half an hour to seek clarification on these
complex and delicate issues and the Government who have spent 18 months in
negotiations must respond fairly and fully to the queries we raise. If this agreement is to
bind us, we must understand what it means before endorsing its effect.
Yesterday the Taoiseach expressed his gratitude to the various Governments and
associations for their extraordinary and unanimous support for this agreement. In many
cases this support was [2724] expressed simultaneously with the signing of the
agreement. The extraordinary unanimity and the coincidence of response might suggest
that we might offend those friends by being critical here. Despite the complex and
delicate issues involved the media generally were quite spontaneous in their approval
and commendation. It may be that the instant commendation was confined to the
intention as communicated by the two Governments but our role in this Parliament, in
this Opposition, has to be more critical. Approval from this Dil is not just an instant and
passing commendation. It involves a binding obligation under the terms of our
Constitution. We must not dishonour our role and ignore that Constitution by superficial
analysis and vague generalisation.
Much has been made of the alleged conflict between Fianna Fil and the SDLP in our
responses to this agreement. The SDLP's support is not unconditional. While offering full
co-operation with the proposed Conference, party Leader, John Hume, has indicated
that much will depend on the implementation of the agreement and on the policies
particularly in the field of justice. The SDLP, he said, will monitor that implementation
very carefully. Mr. Samus Mallon, Deputy Leader has indicated that it was an
agreement which I would be prepared to give every opportunity to work. In effect, and
quite prudently the SDLP are adopting a wait and see attitude
I have been privileged to know them as contemporaries and to work with them in
international fields. I have experienced in their homes, their courage in the face of
threats and intimidation which aroused in me an abiding respect for their courage,
integrity and dedication. In their unremitting search for justice and permanent peace
through political action they have won the right to be heard at home and abroad. Their
Ireland is not one of domination or hatred but of equal rights and mutual respect. We
share those views and respect their intentions but our role in this issue is different from
theirs. We are being asked to give our support and approval to the terms of an
agreement in [2725] accordance with our constitutional obligation to Dil ireann. We
cannot wait and see the actual effects of the implementation. We are called upon now to
state our position and we cannot be criticised for raising the issues that are fundamental
to this State and the Constitution under which we operate.
While it is the clearly expressed intention of the Government to register this agreement
at the UN, it must be said that the agreement in its form and terms is very vague and
capable of different interpretations which in the end can raise the most fundamental
issues for this State. Apart from the limitation in the Irish Government's role to putting
forward views and proposals, there is no precise indication as to the legal obligations
which attach to the British Government in this agreement. Phrases such as determined
efforts to resolve any differences in Article 2 (b) and generalisations such as the the
business of the Conference will thus receive attention at the highest level and the
procedures for small and flexible groups in Article 3 are totally inappropriate to a binding
international agreement.
The Government should explain what precisely is meant by proposals for major
legislation and on major policy issues in respect of which they may put forward
proposals or views on political issues in Article 5 of the agreement. A similar explanation
must be forthcoming before this debate ends in respect of an opportunity to address
policy issues, serious incidents and forthcoming events. Who is to be the arbiter of what
is major in these clauses or what will be understood as serious incidents? If this Dil is to
approve the terms in the agreement it should be clear where the responsibility will lie for
interpreting the terms of that agreement. If it is the prerogative of the British Government
to exclude matters from the Conference which do not conform to their interpretation and
their intentions, the role of the Conference, limited though it already may be, can be
totally undermined unilaterally by the British Government.
In any assessment of this agreement [2726] we must look at what it means for the whole
country. Over the years we have won international recognition of the sovereignty of this
State. This must be protected. On it depends our right to take decisions on internal
affairs and express our position on foreign policy. The protection of our right to be neutral
and independent in times of conflict such as a world war is a cherished objective of our
foreign policy. Our security is our affair. This agreement makes this and other matters the
affair of an Anglo-Irish Conference. The Conference has not got to deal with the affairs of
Northern Ireland alone, but Article 5 of the agreement records as coming within the
authority of the Conference, matters relating to electoral arrangements, economic and
social issues including unemployment, cultural and so on and then makes it clear that
the possible application of any measures pursuant to this Article by the Irish
Government in their jurisdiction shall not be excluded. This is more specifically stated in
Article 8 which says:
The Conference shall deal with issues of concern to both countries relating to the
enforcement of criminal law. In particular it shall consider whether there are areas of the
criminal law applying in the North and in the South respectively which might benefit be
harmonised.
It is clear, therefore, that this Conference is to have a say, to what limited extent that may
be, in the internal affairs of this State. The agreement is, therefore, an erosion of the
right to control our own security by this sovereign Parliament which was won under the
1938 agreement by Eamon de Valera. The significant thing is that there is no reciprocal
right enshrined in the agreement for matters of internal security in Britain to come within
the range of the Conference discussion and consideration of recommendations to be
made in respect of anxieties we might have on security policy in Britian, and we have
many such anxieties.
When one considers the implications of the Birmingham Six Trial and the application of
the Prevention of Terrorism [2727] Act and the tensions they caused in Britain and
between our two Governments, it is quite extraordinary that the right to make
recommendations in respect of our internal affairs is not reciprocated by a similar right in
respect of the internal affairs of Britain. Ireland and Britain will meet in the Conference
which will deal not only with the North but with the whole of Ireland. The Conference will
not deal with internal British issues which are of considerable importance to this State.
There is at least a grave risk that this agreement will erode our State sovereignty and the
total effect of this in the areas of security can have tremendous consequences for us and
our neutrality in any future world conflict or war. I acknowledge that it is not the intention
of the Government to give rise to any such possibility, but when we consent formally to
an agreement in this House, discharging our role under the Constitution, we consent to it
on the terms of the agreement and not just on the hopes, expectations or intentions of
our own Government if they are not clearly expressed in that agreement. Of course, it
can be said that the role of the Conference is purely consultative but the Taoiseach
stressed that it is as near executive authority as makes no difference. In claiming great
achievements on behalf of his Government within Northern Ireland when he laid
emphasis on the extent of the power of the Anglo-Irish Conference, the Government
must explain how such powers within the Six County area are also proposed to be
extended to the Republic. The Government cannot have it both ways and suggest that
the Conference has a significant role within the internal affairs of the North but none
down here. Furthermore, while matters in regard to the internal administration in the
North will be withdrawn according as they are handed over to a devolved government in
the North, no such time limit is placed in the agreement on the Conference's right in
regard to the Republic's internal affairs.
The Irish Government and their representatives must not be silenced by this agreement
and the Nationalists must not become as alienated from them as they were from
Stormont. The great risk of this Conference is that the Irish Government have accepted
responsibility without power and without getting anything in return to formalise the
relationship of constitutional Nationalists, for instance, with our Houses of the
Oireachtas. No Nationalist from the North may sit in either Dil or Seanad without being
disbarred from the principal elected body of Northern Ireland if and when devolution
comes about. We cannot allow a situation to emerge where Nationalists will have no
parliamentary way of presenting their point of view to a Government who take
responsibility for representing them.
If the machinery of the Conference fails, or if the good faith of the British Government is
not forthcoming, this Conference could be a recipe for further tragedy not only in the
North of Ireland but in our jurisdiction also. As long as the Republic is sovereign and
independent its voice cannot be silenced. Its voice may not be as effective as we might
wish, but at least it can be used with credibility and standing. We cannot cede the right to
criticise the administration of affairs in the North in our open bilateral negotiations with
the British Government and before the family of nations in the organisations to which we
have acceded.
I should like to make specific reference to the financial package and the support
internationally in that respect. I know a little about financial packages. I was Minister for
Foreign Affairs when the Carter initiative came through after detailed negotiations with us
in Government. [2732] The condition there was not just a Conference of this kind but an
acceptable agreement and total devolution and support from both Governments within
the North of Ireland. We achieved that at that time. As Minister for Foreign Affairs I
managed to introduce the European Community to their obligation. I should like to recall
that the role of the European Community we note and welcome their interest in this
connection has long since been raised. I should like to refer specifically to 1977 when
I, as Minister for Foreign Affairs, for the first time I must stress that raised and got
support from the Foreign Ministers of the Community for cross-Border projects to relieve
the economic pressures in those areas. Since that time the Leader of the SDLP, John
Hume will acknowledge this in the relatively short period I spent in the Commission I
managed to get Commission support for major proposals for the North of Ireland in
respect of integrated programmes right across Northern Ireland. Let no one suggest that
what we are hearing now is being heard for the first time. The record is there to prove
that in recent years support was already on the way
I should like to mention one reserve. The Minister, Deputy Noonan, indicated that we
were going to get a package of the order of 500 million, but the State Department is
quoted in yesterday's Daily Telegraph as saying clearly that there was no commitment to
any specific package. One has to ask: is this another indication of the vague hopes and
intentions? Is it not quite extraordinary that we are told that had the agreement been
signed a day earlier it could have given rise to an agreement on financial support? That
has to be either a terrible mistake in timing or, quite frankly, a deliberate decision in view
of the fact that no such commitment has been given. I hope, believe and expect it will but
let us not express vague hopes until such time as the matter has been finalised and we
have seen the effect of it here and in the North of Ireland.
As late as yesterday in the House of Commmons, the British Prime
Minister [2733] indicated that, representations made by the Irish Republic to the proposed
Inter-governmental Conference will not normally be made public. Surely the effect of
this agreement cannot be to confine us to making representations in private where
previously we had won the right not only to make representations but to express strong
and trenchant criticisms in public.
With regard to the impact of this agreement on Articles 2 and 3 of our Constitution it
must be restated again that these Articles do not represent a claim by the South on the
North they never could and never should but a statement of the territorial integrity
of the whole nation. In that nation to which we aspire and which is enshrined in our
Constitution, there is no place for domination by a majority over a minority. The very
existence of Partition has spawned these terms and the nation that has so consistently
argued in favour of equal rights for all in every area of conflict throughout the world
cannot now reverse our policy and acknowledge the existence of permanent majorities
or minorities within our own country.
Much has been made of the provision in Article 1 which declares that: if in the future a
majority of the people of Northern Ireland clearly wish for and formally consent to the
establishment of a united Ireland, they the Governments will introduce and support in the
respective Parliaments, legislation to give effect to that wish. Who is to determine how
this wish is to be expressed or how clearly it is to be expressed? Who is to initiate the
machinery for expressing the formal consent referred to in the article? If the British
Government refuse to propose a referendum or to launch the necessary procedure, this
article will have no effect.
In the final analysis an agreement which is stated, and on the part of our Government
genuinely intended, to promote reconciliation let me acknowledge that may have
the unforeseen consequence of maintaining division and dissension. Already the
reaction of the Unionist population, and their representatives, demonstrates very clearly
their [2734] distrust of the British Government and their motives in this connection.
The time has now arrived for us in the spirit of the Forum report to acknowledge the role
and contribution of the Unionist population on this island. The Taoiseach has many times
referred to his own Protestant background which is undoubtedly a matter of respect. I
can make no such claim in family ties of blood beyond the fact that since boyhood I
remember with great pride and affection, the visits of many Protestant Orangemen to our
home in Tipperary, people who had befriended my father in the years he spent in Belfast
after his release from Belfast jail during the War of Independence. I have been privileged
to know and respect their independence and integrity and to appreciate even more fully
the unlimited role which they can play in a new Ireland where a future based on co-
operation and understanding will offer new promise and new hope for all the people of
this island.
The Republic to which Thomas McDonagh, a son of Cloughjordan in the constituency I
am proud to represent which is a happily integrated Protestant and Catholic community,
was committed was one based not on domination by one tradition over another but on
the recognition that stability and peace in Ireland could only come through arrangements
which accommodate both of the main Irish traditions, the Republican tradition and the
Unionist tradition, no majorities, no minority. Let us not forget it. Both are Irish traditions
and if we are to pursue the happiness and prosperity of the whole nation, both will have
to come together in agreement and harmony.
We in the Republican tradition are proud of our past. We remember 1916 and Thomas
McDonagh with pride and satisfaction. Those in the Unionist tradition take pride, and
rightly, in their past, in Derry, Enniskillen and the Boyne. We understand and respect
their feeling of pride. The debates of the past are matters for historians, not for
politicians. Our obligation is to the present and our aim is to build for the future political
structures
I hope that if the agreement goes [2735] through it will not create further divisions between
minorities and majorities but that rather it will be the beginning of something much richer.
It is for those reasons that our reservations are genuinely expressed. All of us welcome
the fact that the debate in the House has been conducted in a calm and reasoned
manner and I hope nothing will be said to misunderstand or misrepresent our role in
Opposition. We have an obligation as an Opposition to question and seek answers. I
hope the answers to some of the questions I have raised will be forthcoming before the
debate concludes or otherwise it will not have served its purpose.
Finally, I should like to re-echo what our leader said yesterday. All of us, particularly
members of our party, are conscious of the fact that, as constitutional politicians we
cannot and must not ever cede the ground to those who have shamed the very meaning
of republicanism. If the risk of that cession is there, all of us will be guilty at least of an
oversight or something much more serious. For that reason I plead with the House, and
the Government speakers who will be responding, not just to engage in general vague
commendations and hopes of reconciliation. We all share those hopes but I appeal to
them to answer our reservations and explain to us in particular if the terms of the
agreement will give effect to the intentions and cannot be used to give effect to the
intentions that all of us will totally and utterly oppose
Mr. Cluskey: I have been a little over 20 years in this House and
in all that time, in all the issues that have come before the House, I
have never felt the same sense of responsibility as I do in contributing
to this debate. That is because the issue before the House is one that
can have very far reaching effects indeed on the whole future
development of this island. It can have those effects either for good or
for evil,
At the outset, I would like to make one thing perfectly clear. As far as I am concerned,
the people who have engaged [2736] in these negotiations have been motivated at all
times by one over-riding consideration, the preservation of human life on this island and
reconciliation between the two traditions in Northern Ireland. They have worked
unceasingly, not only through their political careers and for that effort that they have
made and I know will continue to make, I salute them.
Rules have been laid down for this debate and I think, very sensible self-imposed
restraints. In order to ensure that I do not cross over these, I must say this about the
Fianna Fil position, I do not agree with it full stop. As far as rules go and apart from
the one that I have mentioned, I have made a personal decision that I am going to
dispense with rules that one normally imposes on oneself speaking on major political
issues. Long time serving Members of the Dil, used to political life, usually consider
their political careers and I have done it over the years; every politician who is neither
very foolish nor very naive does it. I am suspending that consideration. I am making no
attempt whatsoever, in my contribution to this debate, to cover my political backside. I
feel and have always felt with regard to the tragedy of Northern Ireland that one is not
entitled to have any other allegiance that would supersede the preservation of human life
and one must make any and every contribution possible to bring some form of peace
and normality to our fellow Irish men and women of all traditions. I intend to use that as
my only criterion in my comments here.
I have fears about the possible outcome of this agreement. I wish it well; I think most
people of goodwill wish it well. However, wishing it well would not make it work. All the
goodwill and good faith of people on either side British or Irish Governments will
not make it work. As is clearly established in the agreement itself, it can only work if it
has the co-operation and participation of both communities within Northern Ireland. I
must say that I am less than optimistic about [2737] the participation or co-operation of
any Unionist in Northern Ireland to this agreement. As the Taoiseach and the Tnaiste
have rightly said, this agreement, if it were to work, would help to defeat the men of
violence in Northern Ireland, it would draw away support from them. I accept that and I
know what is motivating our negotiators in this to defeat the men of violence and to
stop the killing. But the other side of that coin is that if the agreement does not work, if
they can be the losers in one situation, they can be the winners in the other. If anyone
were taking bets at this moment looking at the reaction right across the whole spectrum
of Unionism, the odds would not be on this agreement working.
Dealing still with the North, and I see this agreement in two parts its effect on
Northern Ireland and its possible effect on this part of the island we had a
Sunningdale experience that lasted for five months, of an Executive shared by both
communities. There is a considerable difference between that arrangement and the
present one. First of all, Sunningdale had the backing of all parties in this House; this
one quite clearly has not, so we are starting off, tragically in my opinion, with a division
within Dil ireann on this agreement and a division which can widen and deepen as
things possibly may develop over the next few weeks or few months. We also had the
active participation and the support of the majority, in my opinion, of Unionists within
Northern Ireland for the Sunningdale arrangement and, in fact, some of their leading
men Brian Faulkner, for instance, a Unionist, and a hard Unionist all his life, and a
very astute politician to boot was not only supporting it, he was presiding over that
Executive. That is not the situation today.
We have reaction from the wild men on the Unionist side and God knows they have
them, just as the Nationalist side have them right down to where we see the
moderator of the Presbyterian Church now going to No. 10 Downing Street to register
their fears on the agreement. That would lead me to believe that the possibility of this
agreement as now [2738] presented working is very slim indeed. I say that and I hope that
everyone listening to me believes that I say that with very deep regret indeed. There was
a genuine effort made in this to achieve a very desirable end. However, wishing for
something, hoping for something, wanting something does not make that something
become a reality.
I believe that there are very big dangers in the present situation. They are not dangers
confined, in my opinion, to the northern part of this country. Again, I am saying things
here and I am taking no account of political cover for my back because one has to say
them when one thinks of the over 2,000 people who have been killed on this island over
the past 15 or 16 years. Please God there will be no more, but the possibility exists of
more joining that number. There is therefore deep obligation on us to speak out truthfully
and honestly on this.
In this agreement there is an arrangement for an Irish Minister and Irish civil servants to
be involved with the British Secretary of State and British civil servants in the
administration of Northern Ireland. There have been different presentations of this: how
consultative is consultative? On our side, the Taoiseach, the Tnaiste and other
people, have piped up that this is more than consultative. It is not merely a consultative
role; it is somewhat more than consultative. It falls somewhere between being
consultative and being joint authority. It is clearly being conveyed that if it is more than
consultative there is a degree of responsibility for the administration of the North and for
the security forces operating in the North. Certainly I would not accept responsibility for
all the security forces in Northern Ireland at present. To me the possibility of the
repercussions of that arrangement on this part of the island raises grave fears indeed.
We have had the difficulties in Northern Ireland over the past 15 or 16 years terrible
sufferings, killings and atrocities. We have had some down here too but nothing of the
same degree. Does any sane, responsible person think that the happenings on this
island over the last 16 [2739] years have not, to some extent, destabilised our democratic
institutions? If one looks at our democratic institutions at present one will see that there
are many things assailing them. We have very large unemployment figures. We have a
population who, to say the least, are sick to the teeth with a taxation system
acknowledged by all, Government and Opposition to be unjust and which places an
almost intolerable burden on one sector. We have had an escalation of violent crime, a
very considerable escalation. Over a period of 15 or 16 years all of these things tend to
destablise and, let us acknowledge it openly, lead to widespread disillusionment with this
House and a questioning of its relevance. All of these ingredients are very dangerous in
any democracy. Let us not under-estimate that.
I intend to speak up. I have said we have had wild men on the Unionist side in Northern
Ireland. Of course, we have seen the atrocities and the cold blooded murder perpetrated
by the IRA over that period. Let us not just look at them and say: we will have none of
that. We all know, if we want to openly acknowledge it that things could develop in
Northern Ireland in the foreseeable future and the possibility of their developing under
this agreement for which we could be perceived by our own people as being
responsible and which could have very serious effects on this part of the island. I am
going to ask openly: What was the mood in this part of the island when, not the UDR or
the B Specials, but a British para-regiment cut loose and killed 13 people on Bloody
Sunday? What was the mood, the reaction here? It was very widespread and we all
know that to be the case. If, and God forbid, an atrocity of that type were to recur with
our people sitting in Belfast accepting a degree of responsibility for it, I shudder to think
what that might do and what a destabilising effect that might have on this part of the
island. We must face up to these matters. We must put them out on the floor and at least
address ourselves to that possibility. [2740] I believe, and I have always believed, that a
start in trying to solve the situation in Northern Ireland can be made only within Northern
Ireland. The main thrust of this agreement is to try to get the Unionist people, the SDLP
and constitutional Nationalists, to sit down and arrive at an arrangement that would allow
them, as fellow Ulstermen, to have a power-sharing arrangement at executive level and
there is an inbuilt incentive in this agreement for just such an endeavour. In this
agreement there is a mechanism whereby, if the Unionists and constitutional Nationalist
parties can sit down and arrive at an agreement for devolved Government, certain
aspects of the administration of Northern Ireland would be taken from the Inter-
governmental Conference and handed over to them. That provision was inserted, very
wisely, as one of the most appealing aspects of the agreement.
Let us look at the situation from the Unionist side. Unionists would not concede power
sharing at executive level since the fall of Sunningdale. As the Taoiseach said in his
introductory remarks, many of us here still believed that power sharing offered the only
real chance of a beginning to the solution of the Northern Ireland tragic situation. The
Taoiseach said in his remarks I do not necessarily have to quote him directly that
he had held that view even after 1980, that some time after 1980 he sought a solution in
a wider context. I still hold the view that that offers the only chance of a beginning to the
solution.
One could readily see from the television interview last night with the Moderator of the
Presbyterian Church how deep a shock the whole Unionist community has received
through the emergence of this agreement. What may not have been acceptable and
would have been dismissed out of hand last month might seem much more realistic now.
That is also implicit in this agreement.
In my opinion the Unionists will not in any circumstances co-operate or participate in
anything that involves the Inter-governmental Conference to be established under the
agreement. That is an [2741] arrangement which the Nationalist community in Northern
Ireland have sought over the years. I am fully aware of that. The Taoiseach, the
Tnaiste, the Minister for Foreign Affairs, John Hume and Samus Mallon have all said
one thing the agreement is fine if we can implement it. That is where we are now. It is
not a matter of who did what in 1916 or 1974 or 1980. We must address ourselves to the
problem of where we go from here. How do we get some normality into the political life
of Northern Ireland? That is the only priority.
In another context as a trade union official I have seen workers in a factory demanding
an increase of, perhaps, 30 per cent and being advised by those responsible for carrying
on the negotiations that their demand might have certain consequences if it were
conceded, yet being pushed into demanding the 30 per cent increase and having no
alternative but to pursue that aim. They were in full agreement with the aspirations of the
people they were representing; they could see the logic and justice of their claim and
totally identify with them; but they could also see that the successful pursuing of the
claim could have the effect of closing the factory. There are no winners if a factory
closes.
This agreement is not worth the paper it is written on if it cannot be implemented and I
do not believe it can be implemented if we exercise our full rights under its terms. We
and the Nationalist community in Northern Ireland have achieved in a solemn
agreement, signed and published, the right of an Irish Government to have direct input
into the affairs of Northern Ireland. We all have rights in certain situations and certain
aspects of our lives but many times we may choose for various reasons not to exercise
those rights. I am not suggesting that this major achievement on behalf of the Nationalist
community should be put aside and dismantled. I am suggesting that if it would allow
serious discussions to commence between the two communities in Northern Ireland for
an executive power-sharing arrangement, it might be extremely beneficial if [2742] we
were to say that, in the event of such a power-sharing executive being established and
maintained, we would seriously consider not actively exercising our rights for the
continuance of the arrangement at Conference level.
We may disagree profoundly with the Unionist viewpoint, but let us recognise the reality
that once they see us actively participating in governing they will not operate at any level
within Northern Ireland. If that happens let nobody be under any illusion. I greatly fear
that what we have seen in that part of the island up to now would count as very little
compared to what we might see in the future. I also emphasise my fear that these
developments would affect the whole island.
I set out the rules for what I would say in my opening remarks. I am not seeking to score
political points. I have been a member of the Labour Party since the age of 16 years. I
have always adhered to the party and always tried to further their views. Nothing,
including the Labour party or any other considerations, personal or political, supersedes
the overriding consideration I have always had in relation to Northern Ireland the
preservation of human life. It is in that spirit that I have contributed to this debate.
The discussion of these matters shall be mainly concerned with Northern Ireland, but the
possible application of any measures pursuant to this Article by the Irish Government in
their jurisdiction shall not be excluded.
I hope that whoever is replying to the debate will explain that part of that Article and tell
us the implications it has for the Republic. For example, are there implications in it for a
change in the electoral arrangements? The Article states that the Irish Government may
put forward views and proposals on the role and composition of the police authorities.
The joint communique issued after the Summit states that the conference at its first
meeting will consider:
(a) the application of the principle that the armed forces (which include the Ulster
Defence Regiment), operate only in support of the civil power, with the particular
objective of ensuring as rapidly as possible that, save in the most exceptional
circumstances, [2749] there is a police presence in all operations which involve direct
contact with the communities.
I attended the conference of the SDLP before this agreement was signed and I listened
to the unanimous call for the disarmament of the UDR. It was stated at the conference
that a former Chief Constable of the RUC had said that the regiment should be
disbanded. That has been the view of the minority community in the North and indeed of
our people in the South that the UDR should be disbanded, that they are a sectarian
force which succeeded the B Specials which were disbanded. The only commitment we
got in the agreement is that they will still be there, still operational, but that they will have
an RUC man with them. It is reasonable to say that no Nationalist in the Six Counties will
be happy with that. The behaviour of the UDR is well enough known to all of us.
Our Garda and our Army are doing an excellent job in Border areas and I am concerned
that as a result of this agreement there will be the danger of our security forces being
drawn into much closer liaison with a security force who are discredited as is evident
from the numerous reports of senior British legal personnel down through the years,
apart from what we know about these forces.
In an article headed, Fixing Ulster, in the current issue of The Economist, there is the
comment that Mrs. Thatcher has won, but by no concession of principle, a new sword for
fighting terrorism and a new ploughshare for uprooting the Irish soil in which it grows. If
that is a reference to this side of the Border it is a reference that I would resent.
Everybody here knows that 99 per cent of the violence in Northern Ireland originated in
that part of the country. I abhor violence either in Northern Ireland or elsewhere. Human
life is sacred and should be respected. There is no need for this massive uprooting of
the Irish soil as The Economist puts it.
In today's issue of the Financial Times[2750] in an article written by A. H. Hermann and
Raymond Hughes it is stated that the agreement provides for British proposals to be
made for certain aspects of Government within the Republic as well as the other way
around, mostly in matters of security, and that a tough British stance on extradition and
on cross-Border joint patrols would demonstrate that the Republic has agreed also to a
degree of informal joint authority on its own territory. I would be very concerned at the
possibility of our security forces becoming involved in closer liaison with what are a
discredited security force.
I am concerned also because the British Prime Minister stated in the House of
Commons on Monday that the proposals and the views of the Irish Government would
not be made public. Regardless of who might be in power here and putting forward
proposals or views or accepting any liaison with the security forces on the other side of
the Border particularly where that might involve joint patrols, as is suggested in
the Financial Times this morning, the Government of the day would have a duty to
inform this House of their proposals and thereby give to the House an opportunity to
make a decision in that regard.
A much more radical change than that outlined in the communiqu would be necessary
to make the security forces acceptable to the Nationalist community. There are many
aspects of the administration of justice which need radically and urgently to be altered.
For example, the use of plastic bullets which has been the cause of so much death and
injury should cease, while the supergrass trials which were the subject of a motion in this
House last year should be abolished. It is interesting to note that the Government's
response to that motion was not to condemn the supergrass system but merely to note
it. Although the agreement was signed only on Friday last, the British Prime Minister has
said already that she does not see how mixed courts could work. One may ask if she is
standing back now from the spirit of the agreement.
The Taoiseach said it was the intention of his Government to accede as soon
as [2751] possible to the European Convention on the Suppression of Terrorism. It is a
matter for concern that persons charged with political offences should be handed over to
a jurisdiction in which there is so little confidence. Persons alleged to have committed
such offences should be tried under our judicial system.
The only way in which the Northern Ireland problem can be settled is through peaceful
means. Though I am disappointed with the outcome of the agreement I consider the
Taoiseach to have been right to continue the negotiations at intergovernmental level,
something which he criticised the leader of our party for in 1980. The then Deputy
FitzGerald believes that the route to progress is through the Unionist community. I am
pleased the Taoiseach has now accepted the route initiated by Deputy Haughey.
Article 9 of the agreement deals with cross-Border co-operation on security, economic,
social and cultural matters. It relates to the conference setting out a programme of work
to be undertaken by the Commissioner of the Garda and the Chief Constable of the RUC
and, where appropriate, groups of officials.
Section (b) of that article provides that the conference shall have no operational
responsibilities. The main thrust of the agreement is based on security. Our Government
are placing themselves in an impossible position by accepting responsibility for security
without having executive powers. I should like them to elaborate more on the matter of
cross-Border economic co-operation. Will that co-operation benefit both sides of the
Border? It has been recognised for many years that as a result of Partition the Border
region of the Twenty-six Counties has been deprived. One need only consider the towns
along the Border for evidence of this. Clones which is surrounded on three sides by the
Border is an example of that deprivation. There is no indication in the agreement that
there will be any special economic assistance for those counties on both sides of the
Border. There has been EC aid by way of various cross-Border economic
funds, [2752] but is there to be any special aid now from that quarter as a result of this
agreement?
For a number of years there have been in operation cross-Border development
committees consisting of elected and executive members of local authorities. Do the
Government intend to support efforts of this kind? They have not done so in the past.
In his opening statement the Taoiseach referred to the implementation in the agreement
of Forum principles. I had the honour to be a member of the Forum, a body which
represented 90 per cent of constitutional Nationalists on the island. The Forum in their
report were very clear regarding the structure they would like to see emerge. That is
outlined in Chapter 5.7. The principal recommendations of the Forum were rejected
totally by the British Prime Minister in her now famous out, out, out speech.
I am concerned, too, at the legitimising of the guarantee in an international agreement of
no commitment to work for a united Ireland. I am concerned also at the implications for
our security forces and the lack of any positive commitment to a radical change in the
administration of justice in the Six Counties. A great opportunity has been missed to
progress towards a settlement which would bring lasting peace and harmony to all the
people, Nationalists and Unionists, in the whole island.
I was not around in 1921 in the historic days of the setting up of this State and the
winning of our national freedom. I can only look at those events through the window of
history. If one could draw the blind of history down, one would realise that what has been
achieved in recent days is as good a starting point as could have been achieved at any
time in our past from which we can progress and develop our country.
I had the honour to serve as a Fine Gael Member on the New Ireland Forum. I was
privileged to be a part of that historic political momentum. While its perferred
recommendations were not acceptable in any of the three forms to the
British [2754] Government, breaching as they did that Government's definition of
sovereignty, it did bring before the peoples of this trouble-ridden island the realities of
political life and the difficulties of today. While the recommendations were naturally
nationally biased, they played an important role in bringing to the attention of all Irish
people at home and abroad the degree of determination which democratic, nationally-
minded and constitutional politicians in this part of the country, and some from the North,
were prepared to display and implement in order that this sad saga might be brought to
a new plane with more positive and beneficial results for all. The achievement of the
historic Anglo-Irish Agreement of 1985 focuses on the reality of political life in Ireland
today. The measure of the old and oftentimes misdirected republicanism has been laid to
rest.
The rules covering this debate are logical and have a common sense approach. It would
be very easy to resurrect the ghosts of the past which have wandered through this
House at various times. This agreement has bred a new understanding, a realistic and
enlightened form of nationalism in its truest sense. The old ideas belong to a different
era. We can justly take a sense of pride from what I consider to be turning the country
towards moderation and peace. Let there be no hysterical screaming or emotional
elation at the new direction in which Irish nationalism is pointing. There will not be any
promises of unity within ten years, as was promised by some Fianna Fil speakers in
earlier times. Instant unity, unlike instant coffee, is not readily available.
This agreement must work. To do nothing is to maintain the status quo and this means
the continuation of murder, mayhem and carnage; it also means countinuing fear,
trepidation and human suffering on all sides to an intense degree. It makes one wonder
what kind of mentality, from whatever tradition, brings young people or their elders into a
position where they shoot and maim people. The perpetrators of violence and murder
must be shown that democracy can, and [2755] will, prevail and all moderate and
reasonable opinion must be led to understand this without fear to their rights, dignity,
values or ethos.
This agreement must work. To do nothing is to maintain the status quo and this means
the continuation of murder, mayhem and carnage; it also means countinuing fear,
trepidation and human suffering on all sides to an intense degree. It makes one wonder
what kind of mentality, from whatever tradition, brings young people or their elders into a
position where they shoot and maim people. The perpetrators of violence and murder
must be shown that democracy can, and [2755] will, prevail and all moderate and
reasonable opinion must be led to understand this without fear to their rights, dignity,
values or ethos.
This agreement falls short of executive functions and goes beyond a mere consultative
role. It is the best that could have been achieved at this time, and it must work. It is a
sophisticated, intelligent agreement; it is also very fragile and delicate. For 700 years
people have been speaking about the problem of Northern Ireland and the domination of
this country by British rule. The distinguished journalist and editor of The Spectator, Paul
Johnson, outlined what had been attempted by various British administrations during the
centuries. At the start of the last decade he wrote:
In Ireland over the centuries we have tried possible formula direct rule, indirect rule,
genocide, apartheid, puppet parliaments, real parliaments, martial law, civil law,
colonisation, land reform and partition. Nothing has worked. The only solution we have
not tried is absolute and unconditional withdrawal.
It has been accepted by politicians in this part of the country over the years that to
attempt to unite Ireland by force would undoubtedly lead to carnage and civil war.
Therefore a determined effort had to be made, and has been made, to do something in
the meantime. There is no point in talking about this unless we do something about it.
The implementation of this agreement is of crucial importance. The difficult work has
been done and great credit is due to the teams concerned. The drafting of the
agreement entailed many hours of detailed discussion over 18 months. Can we now
convince the Unionists of the validity of our case? Do we really care about Northern
Ireland? Its importance in our list of priorities in the Twenty Six Counties must be
considered. Have we tried over the last number of years to build this country into one
that would be attractive to the people in the North and elsewhere that would encourage
them to [2756] join us, to live in harmony with us, to prosper and develop? Have we really
tried that? I have heard rabid Republicans shout about the fourth green field and in many
cases their friends, relatives and spouses will have spent the day shopping in Northern
Ireland to the detriment of our economy. It is a twisted version of Nationalism that has
emerged over the years.
We can validly point to what has happened to people of different religious persuasions in
the Twenty-Six Counties. In this administration we have elected people of the Protestant
and Jewish persuasion. We appointed Jewish Lords Mayor in various cities and the late
President Childers was a Protestant who carried out his duties in an exemplary fashion.
Can we not convince people in the North by talking to them that this is not an
assumption of power by a Dublin Government or an attempt to overrun by force or
devious means the people of the Six Counties?
The Nationalist community can feel genuinely secure in that they will have as the
Permanent Representative at the Conference, Deputy Peter Barry, the Minister for
Foreign Affairs, who in his capacity as Minister has been accepted across the divide in
Northern Ireland as a reasonable, logical and determined individual. We could not find a
better person to take up the first appointment as Permanent Representative to the
Conference. It is important that Catholics and Nationalists can have their grievances and
difficulties aired at the Conference by a person of the stature of Deputy Peter Barry. The
British Prime Minister stated that the right of sovereignty over Northern Ireland is not
breached so far as the British Government are concerned. I am sure that the discussions
between the civil servants, the Ministers, the Taoiseach and the Prime Minister went into
detail about the definition of determined efforts in the agreement.
It is of paramount importance that after the initial meetings of the Conference positive
progress comes from the discussions, otherwise people will say [2757] that this is merely
a propaganda exercise and a talking shop. I do not accept that it will be such but, as
Deputy Cluskey said this morning, we remember the deep tribal feelings that were
unleashed in this part of the country after the events of 1969-70. There are people on
both sides of the divide in Northern Ireland who are bad minded enough to attempt to
provoke similar happenings. In that context that courage and determination of the
delegation from the Twenty-Six Counties must be admired.
The Unionist position is shocking at this time. The comparison has already been made
that if tomorrow the British Prime Minister in conjunction with the President of Argentina
were to announce the appointment of a Minister or Commissioner to look at the Falkland
Islands, objective opinion might say that the writing was on the wall, that the British
intended to pull out. I am sure some Unionist opinion tends that way. The reverse would
happen here were we to have involvement by the RUC or Ministers of the Crown. The
agreement is delicate and fragile but it contains the seeds of progress which must be
acted upon.
The Fianna Fil attitude towards this agreement is somewhat unclear. The initial remarks
of the party leader implied total rejection. They seem to have mellowed somewhat. I
would have thought that the Leader of the Opposition, having got due recognition from
the Taoiseach for his part in initiating these Anglo-Irish discussions, would have
accepted this agreement for what it is worth although it might not go as far as he would
wish, while hoping to get back into power. Deputy Haughey may have felt that the
person to whom credit will go for sorting out the Northern Ireland question will achieve a
place in history of monumental proportions. Perhaps such a feeling spurred Deputy
Haughey to initally reject this historic agreement. I am sure moderate opinion in Fianna
Fil wants to accept this agreement and give it a chance to work.
I have spent ten years here as an elected representative and have seen the [2758] Office
of the Taoiseach occupied on six occasions. Since the foundation of the State we have
had a small number of Taoisigh. I am sure Fianna Fil opinion in a general
commonsense approach agree that this agreement should be given a chance to work.
There has been a general feeling of relief rather than surprise and opposition from other
sides towards the agreement. The agreement has the approval of world opinion and
local opinion. There is no point in people here saying they want unity. Everybody aspires
to unity. That aspiration has been recognised in the Forum and it has been recognised in
this agreement. It is the duty of politicians to legislate and lead and we must say how we
want to achieve unity. This agreement is a start. The average Nationalist opinion in
Northern Ireland in the context of unity would mean Brits out but that cannot happen for
obvious reasons. The process started here is distinct from the evolution of political ideas.
It is important to spell out the steps to unity. This agreement is the start of that process. It
starts on the path towards reconciliation and equality and makes an eventual approach
towards achieving the legitimate aspirations of all nationally minded people. It is
important that the momentum inherent in this agreement be maintained and highlighted
in a positive and beneficial way.
Unionists must understand that the three important items in Unionist feeling are
accommodated. They are their Protestantism, their Britishness and, to a degree, the
context of power which has been extremely important to them over generations. The
British Prime Minister said after the last Anglo-Irish agreement: We must not close our
eyes to new ideas. I am glad that after the Chequers Summit, which was not received
well in this country for many reasons, the Government here and the Taoiseach in
particular have been able to convince the British Prime Minister of the necessity for and
the validity of the case for attempting to do something about this very long standing and
bitter problem.
Through emigration and so on a very high percentage of people from my [2759] county
live in Britain and from speaking to them I realise that they feel that, if this agreement
can be implemented and seen to work for the benefit of Nationalists and all the people of
the North, the attitude of Irish people living in Britain towards the British Prime Minister in
the next election could be very different from what it was on the last occasion. It would
be ironic if, instead of seeing her as the devil in disguise, because her conviction and
strength held out and the agreement was implemented beneficially they supported her
and her party to a degree never experienced in the past.
It is important that the British Prime Minister should be seen as having the capacity and
strength of leadership to withstand Unionist reaction. I hope and trust that vigilance
abroad will protect everybody in the best way possible. All agreements have ripples and
difficulties and in that context this one is no different from any others signed over the
years. Probably people expect that there will be a reaction of one sort or another from
extremists in the context of violence and people must understand that that is possible,
but unity is preferable to and more acceptable and desirable than disunity, and to
maintain the status quo is not sufficient. We must point the way forward and indicate the
steps towards where we want to go for the achievement of everybody's legitimate
national aspiration.
Anglo-Irish relations will never be the same again. The lodging of this signed agreement
internationally with the UN changes for ever the status of Anglo-Irish relations. The
common perception in the streets of Ireland is that at this time world opinion Fine
Gael, Labour, the SDLP, the US Government, the Speaker of the House of Congress,
the British Government and others across the globe supports this agreement. On the
other hand, albeit for different reasons. Fianna Fil, Sinn Fin, Unionist opinion and the
DUP oppose it. Everybody with common sense can understand the economic benefit of
achieving better progress. North and [2760] South, than we have had to date. I understand
that this morning Congressman Biaggi mentioned $400 million for the economic benefit
of the North if this agreement is accepted by both Houses here. That will have to be
debated in the Houses in America. At present the IDA compete with the IDB for the
attraction of manufacturing industry into our country. That is a waste of effort and of
money in many cases and we have lost out as a country.
I would have thought that, having been in the front line of Nationalist politics in the North
through all these troubled years, the SDLP would have received unanimous Nationalist
support from this part of the country. If the SDLP did not back this agreement it would not
be worth the paper it is written on. Through the years the SDLP leaders, for whom I have
the greatest admiration, have been burdened with the pressures of Nationalist politics in
Northern Ireland and have performed exceptionally well. The hope expressed in some
Fianna Fil quarters that the Deputy Leader of the SDLP, Samus Mallon, would reject
this agreement is a monstrosity. He has been under tremendous pressure. I have great
admiration for him. He has a very keen understanding of the complex problems of the
North and has never been afraid to stand up and speak his mind on behalf of those
whom he represents. To attempt to pressurise him into not accepting this agreement
could have disastrous consequences
The implementation of the agreement is now our problem and I trust that in that area the
Minister for Foreign Affairs and his team will not be afraid to spell out to their
counterparts in Belfast the difficulties as we see them and as pointed out to them by
Nationalist opinion in the North. What happens when the delegation from this side raise
a problem which is not acceptable to the other side, when the Secretary of State says
that they do not accept our views on this matter? At the end of the day will the Taoiseach
have to telephone the British Prime Minister [2761] and say: Let us get this sorted out if
we can?
If support for the men of violence falls off, as it did during the power sharing executive of
1974 when Catholics and Nationalists could see that their representatives were in a
position to do something, that would be very beneficial. I would prefer to see a devolved
power structure in the North sooner rather than later. I would like to see the agreement
leading to that as rapidly as possible. The Inter-governmental Conference could then
withdraw from both areas that were not covered by their common brief.
We stand at a crossroads in our history. I trust that the effect of the agreement will be to
bring about a devolved power structure as soon as possible and that all traditions in the
North can be accommodated. There will be no all-party constitutional conference. We
had the Airlie House experiment in Washington with Fianna Fil, Fine Gael, Labour, The
Workers' Party, the SDLP, the DUP, the OUP, Alliance, Conservatives and the British
Labour Party represented around the one table. There were divergences of opinion,
extreme in some senses, and there were some areas of common ground. An emotional
debate at that conference centred on security, and this will be of paramount importance
in the context of this agreement. I am impressed by Robert Kennedy's words: Few men
have the greatness to bend history itself but each of us has the opportunity to change
events in our daily lives, and in the sum total of these changes shall be written the
history of the present generation. I trust that this agreement will write a new chapter in
Irish history.
I conclude by quoting the words of Dr. Paisley when he said recently, We are going to
show people that Ulster people have grit, courage and determination. I ask him and his
followers to use that grit, courage and determination not for the destruction of Ulster or of
the island but for its future development, prosperity and happiness. This agreement must
work. A line from Yeats is going through my head: Who knows what is yet to come? I
put my faith in this agreement. [2762] I put my trust in the Government who have brought it
about, and I hope and pray that the delegation led by the Minister for Foreign Affairs will
achieve positive, beneficial results for everybody on the island as a result of this
agreement.
Mr. Noonan: (Limerick West): I agree with Deputy Kenny's final
words expressing the hope that this agreement must work, and we all
hope it will work. Nevertheless, I must give the agreement a
somewhat guarded welcome. I have no doubt that the Taoiseach, his
officials and the Ministers concerned acted in all sincerity in drafting
and accepting this agreement, or that all concerned believed and felt
that they were working towards peace and stability in the North. That
is a noble and worthy objective. Unfortunately, that is as far as it
goes. There is nothing in the agreement which could not have been
obtained without reneging on a far more noble and worthy objective,
that of national unity. No matter how the Taoiseach tries to crawl
away from that reality, I am afraid he cannot escape it.
Debate adjourned.
Cameron Report
An investigation into the violence and civil disturbance since 5 October 1968.
This became known as the Cameron Commission and consisted of Lord Cameron,
Sir John Biggart, and James Campbell. By the time the report was published in
September 1969, much had changed in Northern Ireland. Key events include the
following: a Stormont election resulted in a split in the Ulster Unionist Party
(UUP). The Ulster Unionist Parliamentary Party voted for one man, one vote.
Terence ONeill resigned as Prime Minister. Unity candidate Bernadette Devlin
became the youngest woman ever to be elected to Westminster. A loyalist
bombing campaign targeted electricity and water plants. Increased sectarian
strife across Northern Ireland resulted in the Battle of the Bogside, the deaths
of six people in a Belfast riot and the deployment of British troops in Northern
Ireland.
http://www.iisresource.org/Documents/DM29b_Cameron_Report_Summary_Of_Conclus
ion.pdf
Sunday Bloody Sunday U2 Notes - Tune Into English
Saville Report, an inquiry ... Sunday, bloody Sunday. Sunday, bloody Sunday. Wipe
the tears from your eyes,
http://www.tuneintoenglish.com/sundaybloodysunday.pdf
Youth running away from British troops in the Bogside area of Derry,
Northern Ireland, where the massacre took place
When the soldiers had arrived, the demonstrators had stopped
immediately in their tracks, turned to face us and raised their hands.
This is the way they were standing when they were shot.
Alongside the Army command and the Conservatives, the Labour
Party bears direct responsibility for what happened on Bloody
Sunday. Three years earlier, in 1969, the government of Harold
Wilson had sent the British Army to Northern Ireland, claiming this
was to defend the Catholic minority against a campaign of sectarian
attacks and assassinations by Protestant Loyalist gangs.
In reality, the sending in of troops was part of an escalating campaign
of repression by the British state, directed against the nationalist
parties such as the Official IRA and the breakaway Provisional IRA,
the civil rights movement and, ultimately, the political ferment and
anti-imperialist sentiment within the Irish working class.
In August 1971, the Northern Ireland government introduced
legislation under the Special Powers Act that provided for internment
without trial. Mass arrests began, and by mid-January 1972 there
were over 600 internees.
The brutal response of the British bourgeoisie in Northern Ireland was
conditioned by their fear of an emerging challenge to their rule, not
just in the north, but throughout the UK. The explosive development
of the civil rights struggle coincided with the first national miners
strike in Britain since the 1926 General Strike.
This was the beginning of an escalating wave of struggles that
culminated with the bringing down of the Heath government by a
second miners strike in 1974. Against a background of major social
and political upheavals throughout Europe, the ruling elite viewed
Ireland as a testing ground for measures they believed would be
required in order to deal with a potentially revolutionary challenge by
the working classone that was ultimately averted only by the
combined betrayals of the Labour and trade union bureaucracy and
their political apologists.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2010/06/bloo-j18.html
Saville Inquiry rules
Bloody Sunday deaths
'unjustifiable'
He said the inquiry found that the first shots were fired by British troops, no
warnings were given, and some of the soldiers lost control.
The 14 civilians died after British troops opened fire on a civil rights march in
Londonderry on January 30 1972.
Mr Cameron told MPs: "What happened on Bloody Sunday was both unjustified
and unjustifiable. It was wrong."
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He added that ""what happened should never have happened".
"The Government is ultimately responsible for the conduct of the armed forces.
And for that, on behalf of the Government, indeed on behalf of our country, I am
deeply sorry."
The inquiry found that the soldiers of the support company who went into the
Bogside, where the march was taking place, did so "as a result of an order which
should not have been given" by their commander.
It concluded that "on balance" the first shot in the vicinity of the march was fired
by British soldiers.
None of the casualties was carrying a firearm and while there was some shooting
by republican paramilitaries, "none of this firing provided any justification for the
shooting of civilian casualties".
In no case was any warning given by the soldiers before opening fire and the
support company "reacted by losing their self-control ... forgetting or ignoring
their instructions and training".
Afterwards, many of the soldiers involved "knowingly put forward false accounts
in order to seek to justify their firing".
The inquiry found that some of those who were killed or injured were clearly
fleeing or going to the assistance of others who were dying.
The report's detailed review of the events of January 30 1972 in Derry catalogued
scenes of horror that included the image of unarmed victims shot dead as they
tried to crawl away.
Lord Saville found his superior officer, Brigadier Patrick MacLellan, held
no blame for the shootings as if he had known what Col Wilford was intending, he
might well have called it off;
No blame was placed on the organisers of the march, the Northern Ireland
Civil Rights Association;
The report referred to one person who was shot while "crawling ... away from the
soldiers" and another who was probably shot "when he was lying mortally
wounded on the ground".
A father was "hit and injured by Army gunfire after he had gone to ... tend his
son," the report said.
"The immediate responsibility for the deaths and injuries on Bloody Sunday lies
with those members of the support company whose unjustifiable firing was the
cause of those deaths and injuries," the report said.
It added that "none of the casualties was posing a threat of causing death or
serious injury, or indeed was doing anything else that could on any view justify
their shooting".
Mr Cameron said: "These are shocking conclusions to read and shocking words to
have to say. But you do not defend the British Army by defending the
indefensible.
Memories of the Bloody Sunday dead boomed out across Derry's Guildhall
Square as bereaved relatives read out the names of their loved ones to an
audience of thousands who had packed into the space in front of the city's historic
walls.
As each relative in turn came to the microphone on the steps of the venue, they
read out a name of one of those killed by the Paras, before shouting the word:
"Innocent."
John Kelly, whose 17-year-old brother Michael was found by the report to have
been shot by soldiers without justification, made an emotional address to the
crowd that recalled the civil rights movement of the 1960s.
He said the report had vindicated the families and it would now be the verdict of
history for all time.
Mr Kelly produced a copy of the shamed Widgery report, which had largely
exonerated the soldiers only months after the killings.
He said the whitewash had been laid bare, before ripping the Widgery document
into pieces.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/bloody-
sunday/saville-inquiry-rules-bloody-sunday-deaths-
unjustifiable-28541683.html
The 1972 inquiry was headed by the Lord Chief Justice, Lord
Widgery
The day after the army had shot dead 13 protestors in Londonderry the Home
Secretary, Reginald Maudling, announced there would be an inquiry and
appointed the Lord Chief Justice, Lord Widgery, to lead it.
Many Irish nationalists were sceptical that a British tribunal held in Coleraine,
a predominantly unionist town 30 miles from Londonderry, would be impartial.
The tribunal sat for just three weeks in February and March 1972, with the
final report published on 18 April.
Biography: Lord Widgery
Lord Widgery concluded that the soldiers had been fired on first, and there
was "no reason to suppose" that the soldiers would have opened fire
otherwise.
He said there would have been no deaths had there not been an illegal march,
which created a "highly dangerous situation in which a clash between
demonstrators and the security forces was almost inevitable".
Many important witnesses were not called to give evidence, and testimony
was not taken from wounded survivors.
The possibility that victims were hit with gunfire directed into the Bogside
from soldiers on the city walls was not given proper consideration
British Direct Ruler James Brokenshire has been urged to clarify the
exact role of Tory-DUP committee as Colum Eastwood, leader of the
nationalist SDLP, voiced fears that it could act as an interim
executive.
The prospect that the Tories under the DUP thumb will have a free
hand to spend this money, supposed to be for all of us, is a dangerous
one, he said.
She said that she is similarly unclear what the committees remit is --
and believes the Tories and DUP arent entirely sure themselves.
One thing Im very clear on -- itll be executive ministers here wholl be
taking decisions where that money will be spent, she said. The
democratic accountability needs to happen here.
FRAYED PROCESS
Sinn Fein party chairperson Declan Kearney said Mr Gove had given no
reason for the cancellation of the pre-arranged meeting and warned of
the political fallout from DUP/Tory pact, saying it will be more difficult
to reach a resolution over the norths political crisis.
However, Gerry Adams held face-to-face talks with the British Direct
Ruler on Monday when both were in Washington DC on separate
business.
Mr Adams, who was in the US capital for a Memorial Mass for Martin
McGuinness, said he requested the meeting after learning through the
media that Mr Brokenshire was visiting America this week. He said he
raised concerns with Brokenshire about the British governments
handling of legacy issues.
I asked him why he was silent on the antics around some of the
bonfires around the Twelfth, because Im sure he was as perplexed and
outraged as anybody at the image of Martin McGuinnesss coffin being
burnt on a bonfire, he said.
It was obvious that like some unionist leaders, they prefer to be silent
on these issues as opposed to making it very clear that this is
unacceptable behaviour, he said.
Mr Adams told hi that Sinn Fein was ready and able to assume its
place in the Six County Executive but only the basis which his party
has previously outlined - That is on agreements broken or not
implemented being dealt with in an acceptable way.
http://republican-
news.org/current/news/2017/07/tories_evasive_as_questions_ha.html
Mr Justice Stephens
The High Court in Belfast has ruled that the UK
governments refusal to hold a public inquiry into the murder
of Belfast solicitor Pat Finucane was lawful.
His widow, Geraldine Finucane, brought a judicial review
against the government after it refused to hold a statutory
inquiry into the 1989 murder, in which it is alleged British
security forces colluded with loyalist paramilitaries.
Prime Minister David Cameron previously acknowledged
shocking levels of collusion after the UK government published
the results of a review conducted by Sir Desmond de Silva.
However, Mr Finucanes family said the 2012 review was a
sham that fell short of a full public inquiry.
Mrs Finucane, who was not in court when the judgement was
read out, believed the decision not to hold an inquiry
was indefensible.
Making his judgement on Friday, Mr Justice Stephens said: I
uphold that the decision was lawful and accordingly I dismiss
that part of the challenge.
The judge also said an inquiry would be protracted and long.
John Finucane, the deceased solicitors son, told the Irish
Independent that the family had not yet decided whether to
appeal the judgement.
However, the Government of Ireland has agreed to continue
pushing for a full public inquiry into Mr Finucanes death.
Foreign affairs minister Charlie Flanagan said: My
thoughts at this time are with Geraldine Finucane and all the
Finucane family, who have campaigned so tirelessly for more
than a quarter of a century in pursuit of the full truth in the case
of Pat Finucane, including the role of collusion in his murder.
http://www.irishlegal.com/2404/high-court-rules-uk-
lawfully-refused-finucane-inquiry/
Widow of murdered
solicitor to appeal against
rejection of inquiry
Pat Finucane
The widow of murdered Belfast solicitor Pat Finucane will
appeal against a ruling that the governments rejection of a
statutory public inquiry was lawful.
In September, Geraldine Finucane lost a legal challenge in
Belfasts High Court against the UK governments 2011
decision not to order an inquiry.
Her solicitor Peter Madden, who co-founded Madden &
Finucane Solicitors with the late Mr Finucane in 1979, has
confirmed appeal papers have been lodged and the case will go
before the Court of Appeal.
Mr Finucane, a human rights lawyer, was shot dead in 1989 by
loyalist paramilitaries who were colluding with MI5, according
to previous investigations.
In 2012, Prime Minister David Cameron apologised for the
shocking levels of collusion involved in the killing as he
launched the Pat Finucane Review, the product of an
examination led by British lawyer Sir Desmond de Silva.
However, Mrs Finucane said de Silvas report was not the truth
and did not constitute an independent statutory inquiry as
originally promised by the UK government.
Mr Madden said former Northern Ireland secretary Owen
Paterson had engaged in a sham exercise, inviting
representations from the family as to the model of inquiry which
would be acceptable to them but had absolutely no intention of
establishing such an inquiry.
He added: A full independent and international tribunal of
inquiry, where documents will examined in public and witnesses
shall be compelled to attend and be cross examined by
Geraldines lawyers, remains the only model capable of achieving
the truth of Pats murder.
http://www.irishlegal.com/2580/widow-of-murdered-solicitor-to-appeal-against-
rejection-of-inquiry/
The Report of the Patrick Finucane Review The Rt Hon Sir Desmond de Silva QC
December 2012
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/2
46867/0802.pdf
The widow of Belfast-based solicitor Pat Finucane has lost her challenge
against a refusal by the British Government to hold a public inquiry into his
murder.
Mr Finucane represented IRA hunger strikers and was killed in front of his family by
UDA/UFF gunmen at his home in February 1989.
Geraldine Finucane had appealed against a 2015 judicial ruling that the decision
taken by then-Prime Minister David Cameron in 2011 was lawful.
The family have long campaigned for a full public inquiry.
Her son Michael says the decision is disappointing.
"The court found that the reversal of that decision was lawful - but I think everyone
knows that doesn't make it necessarily right.
"An inquiry was promised by a previous British government, and that promise should
have been kept.
"And I think it's a mark of what the promises of the British Government in
Westminster are worth".
A report carried out by barrister Desmond da Silva in 2012 found that employees of
the British State and State agents played a key role in his murder.
Geraldine Finucane given permission to take public inquiry bid to
Supreme Court
The widow of murdered solicitor Pat Finucane has been granted permission to
take her bid for a public inquiry into his death to the UK's highest court.
The 39-year-old Belfast lawyer was shot dead at his house in north Belfast in
1989 by loyalists in an attack found to involve collusion with the state.
Former prime minister David Cameron decided not to hold a public inquiry but
instead ordered an investigation by a senior lawyer, a decision which will be at
the heart of the Supreme Court hearing.
The review by Sir Desmond de Silva QC, a former UN war crimes prosecutor,
concluded there was "no overarching state conspiracy" in his death, but found
"shocking" levels of state collusion involving the army, police and MI5.
Peter Madden of Madden & Finucane Solicitors said: "This afternoon we have
been notified that a committee of Supreme Court justices have granted Geraldine
Finucane permission to appeal against the decision of the Court of Appeal that
David Cameron was justified in reneging on a commitment given to Pat's family,
and to the Irish government, that it would hold a public inquiry into the
circumstances of Pat's murder."
The Finucane family has fought a lengthy battle for a public inquiry through the
courts. Mrs Finucane has described the De Silva report as a "whitewash".
Her lawyer added: "The only way that the full truth about Pat's murder can be
firmly established, and the extent to which a policy of extra-judicial assassination
of which Pat was a victim was authorised by government is by a full transparent
public inquiry where witnesses and documents are subject to intense scrutiny.
"We will seek to persuade the Supreme Court at the hearing of this appeal that
David Cameron acted unlawfully in refusing a public inquiry and that the Court
should quash his decision."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRXIsQmvFHc
The Orange Order is a Protestant group that seeks to maintain the political union
between Northern Ireland and the United Kingdom and thus protect British control of
the country. Each year, on July 12th, the Orange Order facilitates a march along
Garvaghy Road, which runs through a predominately Catholic area. This event is
organized to celebrate the anniversary of the Battle of the Boyne.
The Battle of the Boyne began in 1690 and resulted in the Scottish Protestant King
William of Orange defeating the Catholic King James II of Ireland and securing his
position as king of Great Britain. This event has become a key element of the Orange
Order identity as it exemplifies Protestants triumphing over Catholics and is glorified
through the Marching Season which lasts from Easter to September. The Catholic
people living on Garvaghy Road are constantly in opposition to these marches. They
believe that by marching on this particular route the order is being offensive and
provocative infringing on the civil rights and the local community2
The Orange Order was originally founded in Armagh in 1795 after a confrontation
now known as The Battle of the Diamond. During the battle thirty Catholics were
killed and in the years following many of the anti-catholic penal laws had been
removed with some of the civil rights restored. The Protestants were felt to be a
threat to their political and economic dominance. These fears continued and after
1791 a new nationalist group was formed known as the United Irishman. The
overriding goal for the United Irishman was independence for Ireland which required
the complete severing of all the political connection binding the island to Britain.
During the 1798 United Irishmen Uprising, the British government used members of
the Orange Order as a counter-revolutionary force. They viewed the Orange Order as
a valuable organization for defending their interest especially against the republican
challenge. The Orange Order viewed themselves as defenders of Protestantism and
crucial for the survival of Britains political interest in Ireland. The United Irishmen
failed in the ending months of 1798 causing the British government to create the
United Kingdom. Ireland lost its own parliament and was represented by the
Westminster parliament in London. During this time only Protestants could be
members of the parliament. No Catholics were allowed4
Every year on July 12 residences along Garvaghy Road leave their houses in order to
avoid the pending pandemonium. However, not everyone is able to flee and thus
some must stay and endure. During this time more people are likely to be killed in
the grand tradition of the Orange Order marching through Northern Ireland and with
more rioting and violence occurring.9].
Any kind of nonviolent campaign gives pride in ones self by belonging to a greater
group and helping achieve its ends. It gives a sense of aliveness as part of the vast
undertaking ( pg 61).
This pride in each side led to the emotions that cause a deep divide between the
Protestants and the Catholics11
The author warns that with any nonviolent campaign there is a fear of it Getting out
of Hand They do not always run according to plan. By raising the emotions and the
spirit of resistance and breaking down apathy violent outbursts occur. For example in
America in the civil rights movement there were riots do in part to this reason. In
Northern Ireland the immense feeling of injustice felt by the Catholics or betrayal
and treason felt by the Protestants led to emotional outbursts which preceded the
violence that occurred. Some of the violence that went on was petrol (gasoline)
bombing, and similar civil disobediance.12
During our tour on the Shankill road in Belfast, Ireland, Irish humor was exhibited
by our tour guide. What he was talking about was serious and disturbing so he
constantly had to lighten the mood to be able to share his story. When I was on the
Falls Road, the other side of the troubles, our tour guide was showing us the street
where the Orange Order marches take place. I asked a follow up question and during
his answer he had to make several jokes because the subject matter was so serious.
It caused such a strong emotional response that this was our tour guides defense
mechanism.
The Orange Order Marches occur every year during marching season to make sure
that discussion continues on the issues that are important to the Protestant
community. It always produces controversy and discussion even if it is negative. By
continuing this discussion yearly this is their way of getting the word out to as
many people as possible and insuring that the subject doesnt fade into the
background of history. Talking to some of the locals in Belfast confirmed that this
was their general view of why the marches continue to this day.
The mural below was painted in remembrance of the Battle of the Boyne in 1690
where King William of Orange defeated King James II. It is showing where he is
crossing the river. This mural was unveiled during an Orange Order March and added
to the tension
AGREEMENT AT ST ANDREWS
https://www.dfa.ie/media/dfa/alldfawebsitemedia/ourrolesandpolicies/northernireland/st-
andrews-agreement.pdf
The St Andrews Agreement, October 2006 - GOV.UK 2
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/136651/st
_andrews_agreement-2.pdf
The Agreement
Agreement reached in the multi-party negotiations
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/136652/ag
reement.pdf
Cabinet: Minutes of Full Cabinet - CC(85) 26th (Parliamentary
Affairs, Foreign Affairs, Community Affairs, Industrial Affairs,
Home Affairs, Northern Ireland affairs) [Anglo-Irish Agreement
draft] [declassified Dec 2014]
Parliament, Commonwealth (South Africa), Defence (general), Industry, Trade, European Union (general), Foreign
policy (Africa), Foreign policy (Asia), Foreign policy (USA), Foreign policy (Western Europe - non-EU), Local
government finance, Northern Ireland, Terrorism, Transport
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The Anglo-Irish Agreement (pictured above) was an agreement signed on the 15th of
November 1985 by Taoiseach Garret FitzGerald and the British Prime Minister Margaret
Thatcher at Hillsborough Castle in County Down which gave the government of Ireland
an advisory role in Northern Irelands government. It established the Anglo-Irish
Intergovernmental Conference which provided for regular meetings between ministers in
the Irish and British governments on matters affecting Northern Ireland, and outlined
cooperation in four areas: political matters, security and related issues, legal matters and
the administration of justice, and the promotion of cross-border cooperation. It also
determined that there would be no change in the constitutional position of Northern
Ireland unless a majority of its people agreed to join the Republic and set out the
conditions for the establishment of a devolved consensus government in the region.
The agreement was voted through the British House of Commons by a majority of 426,
with the majority of the Conservative party, the Labour party and the Liberal-SDP in
favour of it. It was also approved by Dil and Seanad ireann, despite opposition from
Sinn Fin and Fianna Fil. However, the agreement received severe backlash from
several different groups. In the Republic of Ireland, republican dissent stemmed from the
Agreement confirming the position of Northern Ireland within the United Kingdom, with
assertions that it did harm to Irelands claim over Northern Ireland, while for Northern
Ireland Republicans, the deal fell short of providing them with a united Ireland. The
Anglo-Irish Agreement was also met by fierce opposition by the unionist community of
Northern Ireland. Unionist leaders resented being excluded from the negotiations leading
to the agreement and were concerned that it would pose a threat for Northerns Ireland
place within the United Kingdom. A campaign of protest was led by the Ulster Unionist
Party (UUP) and the Democratic Unionist Party (DUP), including mass protest rallies
organised under the campaign heading 'Ulster Says No'. On the 23rd of November
1985, over 100,000 people gathered in Belfast to hear speeches of protest from UUP
leader James Molyneuax and DUP leader Ian Paisley. Both unionist parties
subsequently resigned their seats in the House of Commons and suspended district
council meetings in protest. Thatcher received significant criticism relating to the
agreement, with Ian Paisley accusing her of having prepared Ulster Unionists for
sacrifice on the altar of political expediency. They are to be the sacrificial lambs to
appease the Dublin wolves.
The Anglo-Irish agreement was not successful in bringing about an end to the conflict in
Northern Ireland, with ongoing attacks by paramilitary groups continuing for many years
after. However, it did achieve co-operation between the Irish and British governments
co-operation that is today seen as playing a significant role in the Peace Process
through facilitating the creation of the Good Friday Agreement on the 10 th of April, 1998.
Although there have been occasions of violence since 1998, the Good Friday Agreement
is seen by most as the end of The Troubles.
http://www.oireachtas.ie/parliament/about/libraryresearchservice/onlinecataloguecollectio
ns/documentslaidthroughthedecades/1980s-theanglo-irishagreement/