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I have had different results with different battery packs, but the usual is a 50-70 % increase in time running on
batteries. My personal experience is that NiMh batteries are much easer to rejuvenate than LiIon.
There are no guarantees and you might end up destroying your Battery pack. It might even explode, so continue
at your own risk.
Remove the AC adapter and let it run until the battery is completly empty. You can turn off all power saving
features to speed things up. When it goes in to sleep mode, try to turn it on until you get no response at all.
Using a low wattage 12v lamp (car brake light for example), you can empty the battery pack even further. Check
the voltage of your battery pack, and use a lamp with a suitable voltage. Remember not to use a lamp with too
high wattage as this could damage your batteries. Also, be careful not to short circuit. You will need to figure out
where the ground and + voltage is. On this IBM thinkpad batterypack they are located on the opposite corners
in the connector.
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Let the lamp shine until you see it going slightly dimmer. It is important not to drain it too much (especially Li-
Ion).
If you are the cautious type, you can hook up a multimeter and measure the voltage. I usually don’t like to
bother, but you can calculate how much you can drain (Skip if if you don´t care that much):
8 x 0,6 = 4,8 V.
Step 3 - Recharge
Now it’s time for the for the fun part. I like to log just about everything to track the results. If you like that too,
just download and run apmmowin before inserting the battery. The output can be redirected to a file like this:
Results
For this article i have used apmmowin to log the results. The graph below shows the increase in battery time from
50 minutes to 2 hours and 41 minutes:
These results are from four cycles with a IBM Thinkpad R40 9.6 V Ni-Mh battery pack.
Before the discharge / Recharge cycles the battery time fell drastically from 60% to 10%. Afterwards the drop
has dissapeared and the discharge rate is much more constant.
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I think I rode something like this before, they use it I remember to rejuvenate the batteries on
communication satellites, (they allso need those as their orbits make them pass through the shadow of the
earth).
great idea!
3. Comment by Mark:
Sunday, December 10th 2006 at 5:51 pm
Hey,
It worked like a chram and I thank you!! I used it on an IBM also and it was my wifes; she thanks you
even more than I do!! You can take this one for what you will but the end result is “IT WORKS”
Thanks much
Mark
4. Comment by Harry:
Friday, December 15th 2006 at 6:34 am
@Mark
Thanks for the nice post, however it is different from battery to battery how well it works. Some you just
can’t revive while others get 80 % more battery time.
5. Comment by Kenneth:
Monday, January 29th 2007 at 9:56 am
6. Comment by Anton:
Saturday, February 17th 2007 at 3:08 am
Hi i was wondering if this would be ok to do on my powerbook g4’s LiIon battery, i read on some post
that draining this type of battery would cause a permanent damage as to not be able to recharge past that
low point.
7. Comment by mr2000jp:
Wednesday, March 28th 2007 at 6:30 am
i know that this is good for the ni-mh and older batteries , but the li-ion batteries doesnt get better this way
,
8. Comment by hooyator:
Monday, May 21st 2007 at 12:16 pm
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Vsem sasat koni!
9. Comment by Mario:
Wednesday, June 6th 2007 at 10:50 pm
I’m not sure that I believe this procedure. The calculations used 1.2V as the voltage per cell but with
lithium batteries, it should be more like 3.6V per cell (but often they connect pairs of cells in parallel for
more current). Lithium cells don’t like being deep discharged, so the only benefit I can see to this
procedure might be if the software or electronics got some stupid idea about the state of the battery.
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What a great tip! Another good use of the paper clip as a computer maintenance accessory.
Someone told me that you can rejuvenate a laptop battery by putting it in a deep freeze overnight and then
charging it up normally. I haven’t tried this yet myself. I have a Li-ion battery so it seems the deep
discharge-recharge cycling will probably not work on it. Any comments on this deep freeze idea?
It sure is cool of you to share such technical details with it surely helps
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Great idea! I think I am going to try this on my HP before buying a new battery. It currently lasts for 6
minutes before it shuts downs. Maybe I can turn 6 minutes into 30 minutes.
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Can anyone confirm this works on Li-ion batteries? Surely this is a bad idea as li-ions will be rendered
useless if taken too low, and in a series pack without monitoring each cell individually during the discharge
this is likely to happen.
I can see this could help balance the pack, which could improve its overall capacity. If this is the case, i’d
recommend discharging each cell individually, monitoring its voltage, not letting it drop below 2.5 volts per
cell.
This article appears to be written with NiMh batteries in mind, but don’t want to dissuade anyone who
wants to experiment.
Charging Li-ion batteries in a possibly damaged state or without a BMS (battery management system)
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From the guy who builds electric vehicles and who’s home recently burnt down.
The freezer trick is for a battery that has an internal short due to metallic crystal growth that happens over
time with charging. Eventually, you may get metallic crystals form a bridge between electrodes of a cell
which turns it into a short circuit - doesn’t give power and doesn’t take a charge.
By putting a battery in the freezer, it is HOPED that the physical contraction of differing materials will
fracture these metallic bridges and allow the cell chemistry to operate again. If this doesn’t happen in the
freezer, then I’ve heard you should try smacking the frozen battery pack against a hard surface so the
shockwaves do the fracturing.
With multiple cell battery packs, you can’t really tell the right thing to do - as each cell could have its own
problems that require different treatment - so whatever you try should be done with care and low
expectations.
But, you will either (1) Be successful (to varying degrees) (2) Make no difference or (3) Make worse or
TOTALLY kill your battery pack.
The deep cycle technique (described by the OP) is quite good if applied to the right battery in an
appropriate condition - but it’s no silver bullet and still requires a bit of care to do it right.
Thanks for you experience, about the battery cells you can see this page:
http://www.8eshop.com/blog/battery/laptop-battery-cells-type-abcd/
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