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A group of privacy and data protection experts has written to Minister for
Justice Charlie Flanagan about the Public Services Card.
Elaine Edwards
Updated: Sat, Aug 26, 2017, 09:03
25 August 2017
Dear Minister
We note that in 2015 the Minister for Social Protection, Joan Burton, made the
following statement:
The question of the introduction or otherwise of a national identity card was not
part of SAFEs [the scheme of which the Public Services Card is part] remit. The
matter of establishing a national identity index and producing a national identity
card is a wider issue. It would require due consideration by the appropriate
agencies before any policy decisions could be formulated by Government and
would require the development and implementation of legislation to support any
such policy. Development of policy in this area would be led by the Minister for
Justice and I am not aware of any current plans for her to do so.
We also note that it is now being made effectively compulsory to have the PSC in
order to carry on ordinary business in our society (for example to get a driving
licence or a passport).
The Irish Times of 22nd August reports that a pensioner has had her state
pension withheld for querying the legal basis for requirement she obtain a PSC,
and the statement by the Department of Social Protection on the matter suggests
they consider the card to be mandatory to access basic entitlements:
It was not possible for a person to satisfy the minister as to his or her identity
without being registered in a process which results in them being issued with a
public services card.
We note that the Department of Social Protection is now writing to social welfare
recipients stating:
Registration for the Public Services Card is now a legal requirement for people in
receipt of social welfare payments (including Child Benefit) or free travel
entitlements.
It would appear that the time has now come where a national identity card is
essentially on the table, and it is time for policy decisions in relation to this
matter.
We call on you now to engage with the public for the development of policy on
this matter, and for there to be a real debate on the issue. We request that you
recommend that further expansion of the PSC be delayed and that Head 6 of the
Social Welfare and Pensions Bill not be enacted until this matter has been aired
and policy considered in depth.
Yours sincerely
Brian Honan
CEO, BH Consulting
Dr. TJ McIntyre
Sutherland School of Law, University College Dublin
[Since the original letter was sent additional individuals have signed on, and the
first paragraph has been modified slightly to reflect that not all are primarily
academics.]
Read this letter to the Minister for Justice and Equality from leading academics in law and
security who are concerned about this National ID card.
There are real reasons to be worried about this card and it's time you understood them.
http://www.tjmcintyre.com/2017/08/letter-regarding-public-services-
card.html#more
The Sinn Fin Justice spokesperson, was speaking following correspondence from
numerous privacy law experts regarding their concerns to the Minister for Justice Charlie
Flanagan.
However, it is also the case that the legal basis for this is debatable, and that the
Government may not be entitled to require registration for this card, as numerous legal
experts have outlined, stating we are not aware of any such legal requirement.
There is no legal basis in legislation for this card. The Department is relying on a section
of the Social Welfare Consolidation Act 2005 (section 247C as inserted by the Social
Welfare and Pensions Miscellaneous Provisions Bill), merely requires that the Minister
may require any person receiving a benefit to satisfy the Minister as to his or her identity,
and that failure to do so could lead to disqualification. This legislation does not
specifically that this must be a public services card; it does not even mention it.
If the woman in question, or anyone else, can satisfy the state via other the identification
outlined in the specific section, that they are who they say they are, then it is difficult to
see how a payment could be legitimately withheld from a person. This is an extremely
thin legal basis for such a major public policy initiative. It is not clear that the Bill before
the House deals with this either.
There are very considerable and legitimate concerns regarding privacy, and sharing of
sensitive date, and several privacy law experts have expressed their concerns to the
Minister for Justice in recent days.
My Dil colleagues John Brady TD and Mary Lou McDonald TD have already expressed
serious reservations regarding the concerns that this is part of a move towards a National
Identity Card, and a related database; it is simply not acceptable to attempt to introduce
such a far reaching policy by stealth. Making such a card mandatory by
merely administrative means is not legally sound or acceptable.
There needs to be a full debate on this, and the Ministers for Social Welfare and for
Justice need to be upfront, and deal with the significant privacy and date protection
concerns outlined.
http://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/45924
Maybe because this card has less to do with ensuring verification and more about the
ultimate power and control it wields on unsuspecting citizens who think they are safe from
such abuse of powers...
Just think of what this means if you protest or you decide to take a stand against some
Government policy in the future...
Your card can simply be disabled or voided and since it is the ONLY card they will accept
for an ever increasing list of public services...
where does that leave you?
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Voluntary-ID-Card-on-Public-by-Denying-Services
As far as Regulation 2252/2004 on EU Passports ... violation of the principle of purpose limitation. ...
clear whether (and if so,
Watchdog to write to
Government over public
services card
Irish Council for Civil Liberties getting a large number of
queries from public
Wed, Aug 23, 2017,
Elaine Edwards
The Irish Council for Civil Liberties said it is getting a large number of queries
about the public services card
The Irish Council for Civil Liberties is to write to the
Government expressing concerns about the roll-out of the
public services card.
"I know Social Protection have the public services card, and they're
doing that for a very good reason. They're doing that to protect
taxpayers' money and to put safety checks in place,"
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By July 2016 over 2 million #psc cards had
issued. I invite you to consider the level of fraud
detected & the prosecution rate.
Tackling welfare fraud is good. Is it worth 60m & counting to obtain 13 convictions & detect
1.7m of suspected fraud?
Public service cards are being demanded for access to a growing range
of state services and benefits and Minister Regina Doherty has said
while they are not legally mandatory, they will be compulsory for
engaging with her department and other departments and state
agencies.
Opposition parties and civil liberties groups have reacted with concern
that the card is a de facto national identity card which they say must be
properly debated and legislated for.
The Data Protection Commissioner has also said updated, clearer and
more detailed information about the card must be communicated to
the public.
But the Department says these arguments are not reflected in its
dealings with members of the public who are told they need to register
for a card at risk of losing their benefits if they fail to do so.
It is difficult to give precise reasons as to why some people have chosen
to no longer engage with the Department of Social Protection following
an invitation to register, it said.
However, as these individuals do not contact the Department to
complain regarding any aspect of the public service card process, we
can reasonably conclude that this is not the issue.
The Department said it did not collect data on the number of people
who had a payment stopped because of their failure to register as this
data was fluid in nature.
It said it could not update the 800,000 figure, which was reported by
the public spending watchdog, the Comptroller and Auditor General, as
the amount saved up to the end of July last year.
The customers behind this figure choose, for whatever reason, to cease
any engagement with the Department when asked to verify their
identity.
While the Department can not be certain of the various reasons
individuals choose to no longer engage with us (emigration, change of
status etc), it is not unreasonable to suggest that in some cases this
represents individuals engaged in identity fraud who did not wish to be
uncovered.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/fraud-behind-refusal-of-
some-welfare-recipients-to-sign-for-public-service-card-says-department-
803581.html#.WaNIiYHSZnY.twitter
"We would be very concerned if this new requirement for the card leads to more
older people losing their entitlements and we would urge the department to
ensure no one is penalised because they do not have a Public Services Card."
'A huge step without asking the public first'
Fianna Fil's spokesperson for social protection, Senator Catherine Ardagh, has
said it is essential that the Oireachtas are given an opportunity to debate and
consider the concerns.
Senator Ardagh said: "It is important to note that this card has been in operation
for those who require Social Protection services since 2011.
"This is not the first time a national ID card system has been mooted.
"The use of biometric data being incorporated into the public services card in
order to seemingly eliminate the possibility of fraud and to improve the efficiency
of public services will bring personal rights into sharper focus.
Responding Minister Regina Doherty's comments, Green Party technology
spokesperson Councillor Ossian Smyth said: "It is sinister that Fine Gael is now
revealing that the real purpose of its mandatory National ID card scheme is to
deny services to the public.
"The Government is bringing in mandatory identity cards for Irish citizens.
"This is a huge step to take without asking the public first - and the first way they
are being used is to deny rights to citizens."
NEWS
The Government has denied claims it is attempting to
make it compulsory for citizens to have a Public Services
Card despite the fact that it will soon be required to
apply for a passport.
Privacy campaigners have claimed the plan to make the card
compulsory for anyone applying for a drivers licence or
passport amounts to the introduction of national ID card by
stealth.
The passport application requirement is set to be introduced in
the autumn, while applicants for drivers licences will need to
have one by next year.
Public Expenditure Minister Paschal Donohoe has insisted it
is not and will not be mandatory to have a PSC card but
Daragh OBrien, managing director of Castlebridge Data
Protection and Data Governance is not convinced:
If you require it in order to get a drivers licence in order to get
to work, or to get a passport in order to go on holidays with
your family, then it is mandatory even if the state is saying
otherwise, he said.
He told Newstalk Breakfast that while he can see benefits to a
national ID card system, it cannot be introduced by stealth,
without appropriate debate and transparency.
The PSC card was rolled out in on a pilot basis in 2011.
It was initially issued to social welfare recipients with the
Department of Social Protection threatening anyone who
refused to obtain the card with a suspension of payment.
The card has now been issued to over 2.5 million Irish
citizens.
Tool of petty harassment
The head of civil liberties group Digital Rights Ireland, TJ
McIntyre, told The Pat Kenny Show that he has concerns over
the manner in which the card is now being rolled out to the
rest of the population.
People have been apparently, in some cases, randomly
required to register even though they are not within the formal
schemes that require people to register, he said.
In other cases, perversely they have been sending out cards
to people who havent applied for them and dont want them.
While many European countries require their citizens to carry
a mandatory national ID card, Mr McIntyre warned that they
have the "potential to be used a tool of petty harassment."
In France as a middle-aged white man, you might find it
slightly easier to move around and not be asked for your ID
that much, he said.
As a young black or Arab man in the Parisien Banlieu you
might find yourself asked for ID in a slightly more harassing
manner more often by police.
You can listen back to Mr McIntyre's conversation with Pat
Kenny here:
Mr OBrien warned Newstalk Breakfast that the card will
require a quite large amount of data sharing between
government departments adding that under a 2015 ruling
from European Court of Justice, no personal data can be
shared between public bodies unless the citizen in question is
informed first.
"I'm not sure what the Government's difficulty is in enshrining
this in law, he said. But what they are trying to do is
introduce an umbrella data sharing bill to give state agencies
a carte blanche to share data on a broad basis.
"That's an attempt to get around the Data Protection Act
requirements under EU law.
"If the sharing is important and has a valid purpose - and is
valuable for the state and the citizen - then surely it should be
put on the strongest foundation possible by making sure it is
being done in the most transparent and appropriate way."
National security
In a statement this morning, Minister Donohoe claimed that
the ID cards are in the best interest of Irelands national
security.
"Government has an obligation to deploy the most robust
means of online and physical identity verification possible to
ensure that it is doing all it can to reduce fraud, impersonation
and the risk of identity theft in the delivery and accessing of
public services," he said.
The minister is hopeful he will be able to get his new Data
Sharing and Governance Bill passed this year before the EU
General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) comes into force
in May 2018.
A draft version of the bill is due for debate in the Oireachtas
Committee on Finance tomorrow.
Mr OBrien said that done right, it could be a very good thing
but warned there is an incredible lack of controls and
transparency in the legislation as it stands.
You can listen back to Mr O'Brien's full appearance on
Newstalk Breakfast here:
http://www.newstalk.com/Government-denies-attempt-to-
introduce-national-ID-card-by-stealth
Names and addresses of
welfare fraudsters to be
published
A new bill is also looking to give same-sex couples access to
occupational pension schemes
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The Government has announced plans to name and
shame people convicted of welfare fraud.
Social Protection Minister Leo Varadkar has published the
Social Welfare Bill 2017, which includes two proposals to
deter abuse of the system.
One way is that the Department of Social Protection will
publish a list of the names, addresses and penalties incurred
by people who have been convicted of welfare fraud on a
quarterly basis.
The second action will mean that the department will have the
power to reduce the rate of any weekly social welfare payment
to a person convicted of fraudulently claiming payment.
It comes less than a month after a new campaign encouraging
people to report suspected social welfare cheats was
launched.
The bill also introduces measures to tackle difficulties in
Defined Benefit (DB) Occupational Pension schemes.
It requires employers who sponsor DB schemes - whether or
not those schemes are in deficit - to give 12 months' notice of
plans to stop contributions.
If a scheme is in deficit, employers and trustees will need to
enter into discussions to agree a proposal before the 12
month period expires.
It also introduces a time limit of six months for trustees of a
DB scheme in deficit to submit funding proposals to the
Pensions Authority.
Disability Allowance and Blind Pension
The bill will also removes a barrier to employment for people
on Disability Allowance and the Blind Pension.
It will allow them to keep some, or all, of their weekly welfare
payment if they take up work - which will no longer have to be
of a strictly rehabilitative nature.
And changes in the bill means people can include their date of
birth on their Public Services Card if they wish.
The department says this will be of particular benefit to those
who may have not a driving licence or passport.
Finally the bill would allow same-sex spouses and civil
partners of those in occupational pension schemes to receive
a spouse's pension in certain circumstances.
"This significant equal treatment proposal aims to provide that
same-sex couples enjoy the same rights and entitlements in
this area as any other married couples do," the department
adds.
The bill will now be submitted for pre-legislative scrutiny by the
Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection.
Minister Varadkar says: "The bill contains key measures to
increase protections for members of Defined Benefit
Occupational Pension schemes, and to make it easier for
people with disabilities to take up work.
"There are also reforms to tackle welfare fraud. I am keen to
introduce reforms in these policy areas and I look forward to a
fruitful debate in the Oireachtas as the bill proceeds through
the Houses".
http://www.newstalk.com/Names-and-addresses-of-welfare-fraudsters-to-be-
published
They didn't actually use "beards and make-up" Porkies from #LeBeaut LV
No idea if any paper ran with it. Here's the release.
The Greens described the move as sinisterand the Workers Party said it was
reprehensible.
Active Retirement Ireland and Age Action demanded assurances that no older
person would be penalised because they did not have a card. The Irish Council for
Civil Liberties has also expressed concern.
The Office of the Data Protection Commissioner said the Department of Social
Protection had, at the Commissioners urging, agreed to publish a comprehensive
list of questions and answers setting out for the public exactly how the card was
being managed.
Savings were not recorded where a new claim was made by a prospective recipient
who abandoned or withdrew the claim because they could or would not register for
a card. The department was asked for up-to-date figures yesterday but was unable
to provide them at time of publication.
Identifying problems
Q: Whats a Public Services Card?
A: Its an identity card that people must present to access a growing range of state
services and benefits.
Q: So its a national identity card?
A: Technically, no because technically its not mandatory to have one and the
Garda cant demand anyone produce one to prove their identity.
Q: Technically? So theres a grey area?
A: Well, its mandatory to have one to access services such as the state pension, free
travel, other social welfare payments, a first time driving licence and first time adult
passport. It will also be mandatory next year for all passport and licence renewals,
student grants and department of agriculture services with many more to follow.
Q: So unless youve won the Lotto and can set up an independent republic on a
ship forever sailing Irish waters, the chances are youll need state services and
the card to access them?
A: So long as you dont install a ships radio. Youd need a licence for that and
undoubtedly that will require a card too.
Q: Why not just go the whole hog and make it a national identity card?
A: Because that would require new and controversial legislation.
Q: Why controversial?
A: Because there is a view that people should be free to peacefully walk the streets
of their own country without being interrogated as to who they are and required to
prove it. Also, there is a trust issue around who owns and managesthe images and
information gathered given the potential for data breaches, deliberate or
accidental.
Q: If I want a card, how can I get one?
A: You have to make an appointment to be interviewed and photographed in a
Department of Social Protection office. Youll be told to bring certain documents
and proof of identity.
Q: But if I have proof of identity good enough to get a public services card, why
do I need a public services card to prove my identity?
A: Em, er.....
http://amp.irishexaminer.com/ireland/welfare-recipients-see-benefits-cut-off-
in-row-over-mandatory-cards-457782.html
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Privacy law experts write to
Minister for Justice over
public services cards
Group concerned that State is sleepwalking into a
national identity database
Sat, Aug 26, 2017, 08:48 Updated: Sat, Aug 26, 2017, 09:03
Elaine Edwards
A group of privacy and data protection experts has written to Minister for
Justice Charlie Flanagan about the Public Services Card.
A group of academics specialising in privacy and data
protection law have said they are not aware of any legal
requirement for people in receipt of social welfare
payments to register for the public services card (PSC).
Eleven experts have written to Minister for Justice
Charlie Flanagan expressing concern about the
Governments card project after it emerged that a
woman in her 70s had her State pension cut off because
she refused to register for a card.
She has not been paid her pension for 18 months
because she refused to go through the registration and
identity-verification process as requested by the
Department of Social Protection. As a result she is owed
about 13,000.
The woman said she felt bullied following several
letters from the department inviting her to register. No
one had been able to demonstrate that the card was
mandatory, she added.
In a letter sent on Friday, the academics noted what they
said was the intent to turn the PSC, which was
originally intended to be used for specified public service
purposes only, into a general purpose identity card to be
used in a wide variety of contexts under the Social
Welfare and Pensions Bill 2017.
It would appear that the time has now come where a
national identity card is essentially on the table, and it is
time for policy decisions in relation to this matter, they
wrote.
They said that to date, there had been no public
engagement in relation to the development of policy for
a national identity card.
Our concern is that as a result, we are sleepwalking into
developing a national identity index and national
identity card in all else but name, and that we have not
considered the very important implications before doing
so.
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3969352/Letter-to-Minister-for-
Justice-Re-Public.pdf
They asked that the minister recommend that further expansion of the
card be delayed and that the provision in the recent Social Welfare and
Pensions Bill extending its use not be enacted until the matter had been
aired and policy considered in depth.
The group also noted that in 2015, then minister for social protection Joan
Burton said the question of introducing a national identity card had not
been part of the remit for the so-called SAFE scheme to register welfare
recipients.
Ms Burton said in the Dil that such a measure would require due
consideration by the appropriate agencies before any policy decisions could
be formulated by Government and would require the development and
implementation of legislation to support any such policy.
The academics said it was now being made effectively compulsory to have
the PSC in order to carry on ordinary business in our society (for example
to get a driving licence or a passport).
They noted the Department of Social Protection was now writing to social
welfare recipients stating that registration for the card was now a legal
requirement for people in receipt of social welfare payments (including
Child Benefit) or free travel entitlements.
We are not aware of any such legal requirement, they said.
The group includes Dr Stephen Farrell of Trinity College Dublin, Dr Alan
Greene of Durham Law School, Prof Steve Hedley of UCC, Dr Rnn
Kennedy of NUI Galway, Prof Maeve McDonagh of UCC, Dr TJ McIntyre of
UCD, Dr Maria Helen Murphy of Maynooth University, Dr Patrick
OCallaghan of UCC, Dr Darius Whelan of UCC and Prof Robert Clark,
UCD emeritus professor, who wrote the first Irish book on data protection.
The Data Protection Commissioner said it had strongly conveyed its
views on the public services card project on numerous occasions to the
Department of Social Protection that there was a pressing need for
updated, clearer and more detailed information to be communicated to the
public and services users regarding the mandatory use of the PPSN and
PSC for the provision of public services.
Fianna Fil Seanad spokeswoman on social protection Catherine Ardagh
said it was essential that both houses of the Oireachtas were provided
with an opportunity to debate and consider the possible human rights
and/or data protection implications of introducing such a system of
national ID cards.
Any measure or initiative designed to effectively establish a State database
of citizens information requires a comprehensive debate, and the fact that
a public services card will soon be required for all passport applications,
driving licences and driver theory tests means that this debate needs to
happen once the Oireachtas returns, Ms Ardagh said.
The card was introduced to replace the old social welfare card and some
other cards used for State services and about 2.75 million have been issued
to date.
The Department of Social Protection has a target of 3 million cards to reach
by the end of this year.
It said on Friday the card did not have any of the typical characteristics of a
national identity card in that people were not required by law to register
for one and it was not compulsory or mandatory for individuals to hold or
carry one.
It said An Garda Sochna was specifically precluded from requesting an
individual to produce a PSC as proof of identity.
The public services card is exactly that a card is designed for the
purpose of safely, securely and efficiently providing public services.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/privacy-law-experts-write-to-
minister-for-justice-over-public-services-cards-1.3199487
Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform Paschal Donohoe with a giant
public services card. The card aims to assist people accessing government
services. Photograph: Eric Luke
PAULA MORRIN, NURSE: THEY MADE IT
SOUND EXTREMELY URGENT
Paula Morrin, a nurse from Dublin, said she began
receiving letters more than a year ago asking her to attend
an appointment to register for the public services card.
She ignored them. She said she had never claimed a
welfare benefit, had never been unemployed, and did not
see why she needed the card.
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/public-services-card-libraries-
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I am quite confused by this not obligatory,
mandatory voluntary card.
Almost three million public services cards have been issued to date, leading
to criticism from civil liberties groups that it amounts to the introduction of
national identity cards by the back door. Photograph: Bryan OBrien
Ireland is one of three EU States along with Denmark
and the UK that does not formally issue national
identity cards. For the past decade, however, there has
been administrative creep here as successive
governments authorised the issuing of public services
cards that are used for social welfare claims, free travel
and other allowances. Card registration will soon be
required to qualify for driving tests and passports and it
may not stop there. Ministers insist the cards are
voluntarily but this has become an exercise in
obfuscation.
Almost three million cards have been issued to date,
leading to criticism from civil liberties groups that it
amounts to the introduction of national identity cards by
the back door. Because of a catch-22 approach being
taken by the Department of Social Protection, it is hard
to disagree with that assessment. Citizens are required to
satisfy the minister as to their identity to qualify for
payments. To receive their entitlements, however,
officials demand a public services card as proof of
identity. Production of a passport or other document is,
apparently, not regarded as sufficient. As a common law
country, there has been resistance to the introduction of
identity cards and governments traditionally backed
away from the idea. Computerisation of State databases,
however, brought demands for a standardised means of
assessing public services and for identity verification to
combat fraud. Rather than invite public debate about the
implications of the card, the main political parties
accepted its introduction on the grounds of fraud
prevention and a more efficient public service.
The card has saved the State millions of euro in
fraudulent welfare claims, and the Government argues
that it has reduced the incidence of overall
administrative error. Politicians have defended its
introduction on the grounds of fraud prevention and this
justification clearly resonates with voters. Because of the
manner of its introduction and its opaque legal status,
however, it should not be treated as the only means of
identification when qualifying for State benefits.
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/editorial/public-services-card-beware-
mission-creep-1.3197377
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1341522/The-case-for-and-against-
identity-cards.html
Five Reasons against National ID Cards The implications for our privacy and
freedom
Once again, the government is making loud noises about the
supposed need for a National ID card. Here's five reasons why
we should be opposed to the cards, and a statement by John
Wadham, director of Liberty
ID cards only help you track people if you know who you are
looking for, if you are certain they cannot possibly be carrying
plausible fake papers, and if you stop them.
That means you have to use the police to stop vast numbers of
people on the street, detain large numbers who arent carrying
a card or who in some way are deemed to arouse suspicion.
This cannot be a sensible way of focussing our already
overstretched police forces time and resources on combating
terrorism, or indeed any other crime.
One of the things that make this country such a good place to
live is the tradition of freedom we have. If we curtail and limit
these freedoms for no good reason, that would be a real
victory for those who carried out and supported the terrorist
attacks in the USA on the 11th September".
http://www.urban75.org/legal/id.html
Niall O'Connor
August 25 2017
She was speaking after a report emerged of a welfare recipient being turned
down for public services because they did not hold the card in their
possession.
But for my department its mandatory and I know people might say Im
splitting hairs but actually because of the high value of the public services that
the department (provides), we give out over 20 billion every year and
actually it wasnt brought in by this government, the legislation was brought in
in 2005 so 12 years ago this has been in the process, she added.
We would be very concerned if this new requirement for the card leads to
more older people losing their entitlements and we would urge the
department to ensure no one is penalised because they do not have a Public
Services Card.
The partys Social Protection Minister spokesperson Willie ODea said it is the
view of the majority of the public and members of the Oireachtas that forcing
people to avail of a card is the wrong approach.
They shouldnt be trying to introduce this through the back. They ought to
back off, the Limerick TD added.
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/anger-as-regina-doherty-says-
public-service-cards-now-mandatory-for-welfare-36069663.html
Amid ongoing uncertainty over the future arrangements at the Border with
Northern Ireland, the Government plans to make the cards necessary for all
adult passport applications and renewals as little as three months before
March 2019 when Brexit is scheduled to take place.
Former President Mary McAleese raised fears at the weekend that a passport
or ID may be necessary to cross the Border despite pledges by both the Irish
and British governments to maintain the common travel area.
Fianna Fil TD Willie O'Dea has said he is "concerned" at the timing due to
fears that a hard Brexit could lead to Border passport checks. He has already
accused the Government of trying to introduce a mandatory card "through the
back door".
That was after Social Protection Minister Regina Doherty said that while the
cards are "not compulsory", they're needed for services provided by her
department.
He said the Government should "back off" on its plans for the card and that
he'll be raising the matter when the Dil returns.
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/passport-seekers-will-need-
public-service-card-36074761.html
does this mean that everyone in the world entitled to apply for an irish passport has to first
get one of those cards ? sounds like a catch-22.
Also, it's NOT just about a card. The card is a mechanism for the underlying biometric ID
database. That's something we should be debating
There has been some confusion over whether you need the card after a
woman in her 70s was refused her pension because she did not want to
sign up for one.
"Because of the high value of the public service and department for
social protection, we give out over 20,000,000,000 every year," she
said.
"We believe and it actually wasn't brought in by this government, the
legislation was brought in in 2005, we believe it's not too much to ask
people to authenticate who you are so we can give you a fast and
efficient public service to make sure you can get what you're entitled
to."
http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/new-public-service-
card-mandatory-if-public-want-to-claim-money-from-government-803347.html
Now the government has declared the "voluntary' Public Service Card, is now compulsory. Stasi
like actions from @FineGael Nothing new then.
Regina Doherty says public
services card now
mandatory for welfare
Minister for Social Protection says other Government
departments will make card compulsory
Fri, Aug 25, 2017, 08:33 Updated: Fri, Aug 25, 2017, 12:46
Elaine Edwards, Vivienne Clarke
Minister for Social Protection Regina Doherty says public services card is now
mandatory to access payments from her department.
An advocacy group for older people has expressed
concern at comments by Minister for Social Protection
Regina Doherty that a public services card is now
mandatory to receive payments from the Department of
Social Protection.
Ms Doherty was speaking on Friday following criticism
of a policy requiring people to register for the card, after
a woman in her 70s had her State pension cut off by the
department.
Speaking on Newstalk Breakfast, the minister said it was
a requirement that people validate their identity in order
to receive a service from the State.
Justin Moran, head of advocacy and communications at
Age Action said: In January the Department told us that
one in four people with a travel pass did not have a
public services card.
Even if this figure has improved it still means tens of
thousands of older people do not have a card, he added.
Earlier this week it was revealed a woman in her 70s
had her pension cut off because she does not have a
public services card.
We would be very concerned if this new requirement for
the card leads to more older people losing their
entitlements and we would urge the department to
ensure no one is penalised because they do not have a
public services card.
Ms Doherty said on Friday morning that the card was
now mandatory to access services from the Department
of Social Protection and that other Government
departments would also make it mandatory.
Privacy law experts write to Minister for Justice over public
services cards
Pressure mounts on Government over public services card
Public services card: Beware mission creep
Lets be very clear. Nobody is required by law to have a
card. So therefore it isnt compulsory, Ms Doherty said.
But for my department its mandatory and I know
people might say Im splitting hairs but actually because
of the high value of the public services that the
department (gives out) - we give out over 20 billion
every year - we believe and actually it wasnt brought
in by this government, the legislation was brought in in
2005 so 12 years ago this has been in the process, she
said.
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Travel pass
Hell need this card with him every time he wants to travel.
My concern would be that he has lost his pass numerous
times. And this thing will have his PPS number on it. What if
he loses it? It will take away his independence, she says.
But we have to go and do this because if we dont theyll cut
off his payments. Ill be very interested to see how theyre
going to deal with him. Between this and the pensioner who
had her payments cut, its a form of bullying.
It just doesnt feel very nice, it makes you feel like some kind
of beggar. Well I dont see either myself or my child as
beggars.
Read More: Pretty soon youre
going to need this card to do a whole
load of important things in Ireland
but why?
Im making this decision reluctantly. Its not a decision I
agree with or am in favour of. Like where is this information
going? How will my sons data be used, or abused? Carol
adds. They say its not compulsory, well I intend to ask
them how it isnt.
In response to a request for comment on the matter, a
spokesperson for the Department of Social Protection said it
is unable to comment on individual cases.
The Department has been writing to its customers advising
them of the need to get the new free travel card, describing
the registration process, inquiring firstly as to their ability
to attend the face-to-face PSC registrations process, and
asking if they have special requirements, they continued.
Customers are being asked to contact the Department in this
regard in the first instance to advise of their particular
circumstances so that the Department can make the
necessary accommodations required to help customers
undertake the process.
Personally I think its an identity card, but snuck in through
the back door, says Carol.
There was never really any Dil discussion on it, and theyre
still denying its an ID card, but thats what it is.
The PSC or its free travel variant is not a National ID Card
as it doesnt bear any of the characteristics of such a card, is
Social Protections response to this contention.
Ratifying the Convention
Carol has another take on her son being required to get a
PSC.
This is an identity card as far as Im concerned, so will it
give my son an actual identity? she asks. Because I feel
hes had no rights or identity of his own since the day he was
born.
A recent article for TheJournal.ie by Tom Clonan, himself
father to a son living with disabilities, called on the
government to ratify the UN Convention on the Rights of
People with Disabilities. At present, Ireland is the only EU
member to have failed to do so.
I fully support Tom Clonan on this. The fact is our children
have no rights. Im an older parent. Im thinking: who will
look after my son when Im gone? Who will make these
decisions for him then?
This brings up more concerns than just an identity card it
raises the matter of identity. Will it give my son the rights
hes entitled to? she adds.
Carol believes that Ireland hasnt ratified the Convention
because if they do it means they have to deliver on it.
If you speak to anyone with a child with disabilities in this
country, youd see that their rights are their chief concern,
she says.
In this country we rely on charity and goodwill for the good
of our children. But if my child has an identity card, will he
now have rights?
http://www.thejournal.ie/disabilities-public-services-card-carol-brady-
3561359-Aug2017/?utm_source=twitter_self
why they are forcing everybody including children to have the public service card?
Mother awarded 10,000 in
carers allowance arrears
Government had stopped paying woman for her sons
care after desk-based case review
Fri, Aug 25, 2017, 01:00
Fiona Gartland
A mother looking after her teenage son, who had mental-health issues, has
been awarded more than 10,000 in arrears for carers allowance. File
photograph: Getty Images
A mother looking after her teenage son, who had mental
health issues, was awarded more than 10,000 in
arrears for carers allowance after challenging a decision
made to stop paying it.
The Department of Social Protection had stopped the
allowance to the woman in June 2016 on the basis she
did not qualify for it because her son no longer needed
full-time care and attention. The decision was made
following a desk-based medical assessors report, written
without visiting the womans home to assess her sons
needs.
It was challenged with the help of the Community Law
and Mediation centre in Coolock, north Dublin, whose
work includes providing free legal advice and
representation.
The teenager had complex problems including mental
health, learning and behavioural difficulties. He had
been diagnosed with depression and was threatening
self-harm, which required continual supervision by his
mother.
Medical evidence provided by the woman showed her
sons ability to care for himself was extremely low and he
would require ongoing support in life. His school was
also struggling to cope with his difficulties.
Community Law and Mediation assisted the woman in
her appeal and an oral hearing was held in the case. Her
solicitor argued the report from the Department of
Social Protections medical assessor was of limited
evidential value because it was a desk-based assessment
only. It was also flawed because it did not take account
of the mental health difficulties of the teenager.
In his decision, recently issued, the appeals officer said
he had considered the medical and oral hearing evidence
and concluded the boys care needs met the
requirements set out in legislation.
Elderly mother with dementia left as daughters carer
Id prefer if Fiona went before me then I wouldnt be
leaving her behind when I die
Minding my disabled daughter: 'I don't want to do this any
more'
He allowed the appeal, awarding arrears of 10,000 and
reinstating the womans carers allowance, paid on a
half-rate basis.
Physical assessment
Rose Wall, chief executive of Community Law and
Mediation, said there should be greater scrutiny of
medical evidence by the Department of Social Protection
before decisions are made to cut a carers allowance.
She said desk-based decisions are often made when
there should be closer examination of the case.
If the medical evidence on paper is strong enough, then
obviously you dont need to meet the client, she said.
But, particularly when people have been in receipt of a
payment for so long, and then to suddenly stop it, you
have to physically assess the situation then.
Ms Wall said the situation is compounded by the fact
there is no State legal aid available to challenge decisions
made by the Department of Social Protection or by local
authorities in relation to housing.
Unless individuals can access Community Law and
Mediation services in Dublin or Limerick, or they can get
help from similar organisations, there is nowhere for
them to turn.
Oral hearing
Ms Wall also said there was a much higher rate of
success within the social welfare appeals system if
appellants looked for an oral hearing rather than a
summary appeal.
Across the country last year, almost 60 per cent of
appeals that were taken against social welfare payment
decisions were successful.
Community Law and Mediation has successfully
appealed other carer allowance decisions as well as
decisions about pensions, disability, mobility, rent,
jobseekers and other allowances.
Jane OSullivan, managing solicitor with the
organisation, said only a small percentage of people who
may be in dire need know they can come to a law centre
for help.
They often accept decisions of local authorities or social
protection and things like that, and they dont see there
is a potential for legal challenge, she said.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/mother-awarded-10-000-in-
carer-s-allowance-arrears-1.3197381
Facebooks Hidden Messages
Facebooks hidden messages seem to be the topic of conversation these
days with good reason. We have conversations on Facebook on a very
frequent basis, many of us daily. Most of these conversations are with friends,
colleagues, people that we are connected with as friends on Facebook. But
what about those conversations that come from people looking to connect and
network with us, people we are not currently friends with. Facebook has
taken it upon themselves to filter those messages for us, said, protecting us
from spam. So why are we finding messages that we should have received in
this hidden folder of protection? Many people saying they have thousands of
messages, many that were legitimate message requests, not spam that has
been filtered into this dark Facebooks hidden messages hole. Well done
Facebook.
Unable to turn back the clock, our option at this point is to find our way into
the hidden messages on Facebook and try to reconcile any potential snubbing
that may have happened due to our lack of information on these messages.
https://www.dottotech.com/facebooks-hidden-messages/
From the 1st June 2017, in order to book a theory test (or
CPC Exam) you will need the 12 digit number from the
rear of the card.
http://www.theorytest.ie/driver-theory-
test/public-services-card-psc-id-policy/
From the 1st June 2017, in order to book a theory test (or
CPC Exam) you will need the 12 digit number from the
rear of the card.
Sample Public Services Card
Sample Public Services Card
http://www.theorytest.ie/blog/
Updated ID Policy
Make you wonder if Regina Doherty had to go to her parents to feed her family when business
collapse how she now owns these properties
The real sinister fringe public servants say its a photograph, but it really is a bio-metric scan of
your face.
http://www.mcgarrsolicitors.ie/2017/08/23/public-services-card-id-database-
id-card/
Digital Rights Ireland: Application for a
Trial of Preliminary Issue
CONSTITUTIONAL LAW, DATA PROTECTION
In January 2012, in the case of Digital Rights Ireland Ltd. v The Minister
for Communications & Ors., the High court referred certain questions to
the CJEU (ECJ) under Article 267 TEU.
In the events that happened the ECJ struck down or found invalid
Directive 2006/24/EC in the course of the hearing of the referred
questions.
The High court is now hearing the parties (Digital Rights Ireland Ltd.
and the Minister for Communications & Ors.) in the resumed
proceedings, interrupted by the reference made in 2012.
Interested parties may attend. The hearing is taking place in Court No.
14 on the 2nd floor of the Four Courts in Dublin. It may conclude today.
McGarr Solicitors act for Digital Rights Ireland Ltd.
The proposed Social Welfare Bill for 2017 acknowledges PSC intent as ID card, removes some
PPSN use protections.
Seven countries in Europe signed a treaty in June 1985 to end internal border checkpoints and controls. More countries have
joined the treaty since then. There are currently 25 Schengen countries and all of them are in Europe.
Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia,
Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden and Switzerland are
all Schengen countries. Norway and Iceland are not members of the European Union. United Kingdom and Ireland are
members of the European Union, but do not belong to the Schengen area.
The Schengen visa allows the holder to a total stay of up to 90 days within a period of 6 months for tourist or business
purposes. If you get a multiple entry Schengen visa, you may leave and return any number of times within the 180-day
period, but the combined stay within the region must not total more than 90 days. You need to apply for a Schengen visa if
you are a citizen of a country whose citizens are subject to the visa requirement. A Schengen visa must be applied in person,
NOT by mail.
Once you get a Schengen visa, you can enter one country and travel freely anywhere within the Schengen territory. Internal
border controls have been abolished and there are no or few stops and checks. Internal air, road and train travel are handled
as domestic trips, just like traveling from one state in the U.S. to another. Traveling within Europe has been simplified with
the Schengen visa as the unified visa system offers many advantages. The Schengen Agreement still allows customs control
as long as there is no passport check, and checks are made randomly, or at real suspicions.
The Schengen visa helps promote a unified Europe and is an important symbol of the European Union. It takes between 2
and 10 working days to get a Schengen visa for short-term stays. Processing time may be
up to several months for long-term residence permits or visas for employment in a Schengen country.
A centralized database, common procedures and criteria for visa issuance and use of the same visa sticker with high-level
built-in security helps optimize the office network of Schengen countries.
The Schengen visa does not guarantee entry into the Schengen countries as the final authorization remains with the
immigration officials at the respective borders such as at the port of entry. The purpose of the visit may not be altered after
entering the Schengen territory.
Other long term visas such as employment visas are subject to the national legislation of the country of destination.
U.S. citizens in possession of a valid U.S. passport do not need a visa for airport transit, tourist or business trips (for stays up
to 90 days). The passport must not expire before the end of the scheduled trip.
You will most likely be asked to show your passport when you visit different Schengen countries, to verify that you are still
within the visa period. In addition to the passport containing the Schengen visa, you should also bring original letters,
sponsorship papers and other documents used to get the visa to make the border control procedure easier and avoid delays
at the border. You should not be the person for whom an alert has been issued for the purpose of refusing entry.
The nationals of the European Economic Area (EEA) must present a valid identity card or a valid or expired passport less than
5 years old. EEA consists of 25 Members of the European Union (Austria, Belgium, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark,
Germany, Estonia, Finland, France, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands,
Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, United Kingdom) and Iceland, Liechtenstein, and Norway.
When a non-EEA traveler enters or transits into the Schengen area, a travel document (usually passport) will be stamped
determining the starting point of the authorized stay. The same travel document is also stamped upon exiting the Schengen
area. If the travel document of a third-country national does not have an entry stamp, authorities can presume that the
holder does not fulfill or no longer fulfills the conditions of the duration of stay. However, if you can provide a credible
evidence of your presence outside the territory of the Schengen countries, such presumption may be rebutted.
Visa types
An airport transit visa (A) allows you to transit through the international zone of a Schengen airport without
https://www.immihelp.com/visas/schengenvisa/
Following the adoption by the Council of the Commission proposal for visa liberalisation for Ukraine,
Commissioner for Migration, Home Affairs and Citizenship Dimitris Avramopoulos made the
following statement:
One year ago, I was in Kiev to personally congratulate the Ukrainian government for the tremendous
efforts they have made to implement the reforms set out under the visa liberalisation process. Today, I
am pleased to see that we are reaching the end of the process and I welcome the Council's adoption of
visa liberalisation for Ukraine a final step towards visa-free travel to the Schengen area for
Ukrainian citizens.
Today's decision is an acknowledgment of the successful and far-reaching reforms carried out by
Ukraine, often in very challenging circumstances. From the very beginning, the Ukrainian authorities
have demonstrated their full commitment to address the fight against corruption as a matter of priority
and have carried out important reforms in the fields of border management and anti-discrimination.
Ukraine has come a long way and today this is recognised and rewarded. Now it is important to
sustain this progress. The European Union stands ready to continue providing support and assistance
to the Ukrainian authorities in this endeavour.
Visa-free travel will bring important benefits for citizens on both sides. It will reinforce social, cultural
and economic ties between the EU and Ukraine as well as strengthen people-to-people contacts.
Visa-free travel to the Schengen area will soon become a reality it is an important and well-deserved
moment for Ukraine and its citizens that will make our already close relations even stronger."
Next Steps
The visa-free regime will enter into force 20 days after publication in the Official Journal of the
amendment to Regulation 539/2001. Once in force, Ukrainian citizens with biometric passports will no
longer require visas when travelling for short stays of up to 90 days to all EU Member States except for
Ireland and the UK, as well as the four Schengen associated countries.
Background
On 29 October 2008, the Commission launched a dialogue on visa liberalisation with Ukraine with the
aim of examining all the relevant conditions necessary for EU visa-free travel. On 18 December 2015,
the Commission adopted its sixth and final progress report on the implementation by Ukraine of its
Visa Liberalisation Action Plan (VLAP). In the Report the Commission concluded that Ukraine had
implemented all the measures identified in the third progress report and that all the benchmarks of the
VLAP had been met.
Following the positive assessment of the progress report and taking into account overall EU-Ukrainian
relations, the Commission presented on 20 April 2016 a legislative proposal to lift visa requirements
for Ukrainian citizens holding a biometric passport, by amending the Regulation on Visa requirements
for nationals of Non-EU Member Countries. While it allows Ukrainian nationals who hold biometric
passports to travel without a visa to the Schengen area for short stays up to 90 days, it should be clear
that visa liberalisation does not give a right to work or reside in the EU.
President Juncker has been working closely with the Ukrainian government throughout the process to
ensure that the necessary reforms were implemented and the legislative process in the Council and the
Parliament progressed as swiftly as possible. On 28 February 2017, the European Parliament and the
Council reached an agreement on the Commission's proposal, which was then approved in the Plenary
on 6 April and the Council today.
Press Release: Ukraine's Sixth Progress Report on the implementation of the action plan on visa
liberalisation
Press Release: European Commission proposes to lift visa obligations for citizens of Ukraine
http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_STATEMENT-17-1270_en.htm
Commission Progress Report: Ukraine
meets criteria for visa liberalisation
Brussels, 18 December 2015
The Commission adopted today the sixth and last progress report on the implementation by Ukraine of
its Visa Liberalisation Action Plan (VLAP). The progress report highlights the significant headway
made by Ukraine to meet the criteria for visa liberalisation.
Following the positive assessment of the progress report and taking into account the overall EU-
Ukraine relations, the Commission will present in early 2016 a legislative proposal to the Council and
the European Parliament to lift visa requirements for Ukrainian citizens holding a biometric passport -
amending Regulation (EC) No 539/2001.
Commissioner for Migration, Home Affairs and Citizenship, Dimitris Avramopoulos welcomed the
enormous progress made by Ukraine: "I am very pleased that Ukrainian citizens with a biometric
passport will soon be able to travel to the Schengen area for short stays without a visa. I congratulate
the Ukrainian leadership on the progress made towards completing the reform process which will
bring important benefits to the citizens of Ukraine in the future. The hard work towards achieving this
significant goal has paid off. Now it is important to keep upholding all the standards. "
The progress achieved by Ukraine in the implementation of the second phase benchmarks has been
noteworthy, in particular given the exceptional circumstances and the internal and external challenges
the country faces. Based on the Commission's assessment, the commitments taken by the Ukrainian
leadership, and the outcome of the continuous monitoring and reporting carried out since the launch of
EU-Ukraine Visa Liberalisation Dialogue in October 2008, the Commission considers that Ukraine
meets all the benchmarks set in respect of the four blocks of the second phase of the Visa Liberalisation
Action Plan.
The visa-free travel will apply to all EU Member States, except for Ireland and UK, as well as the four
Schengen associated countries (Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway and Switzerland). The exemption from
visa requirement concerns only short-stays, up to 90 days in any 180-day period for business, touristic
or family purposes.
The EU-Ukraine Visa Dialogue has been an important and effective tool for advancing far-reaching
and difficult reforms in the Justice and Home Affairs area and beyond, impacting on areas such as the
rule of law and justice reform. The progress achieved by Ukraine in all areas covered by the four
blocks of the VLAP has been steady and effective. It demonstrates the commitment and constant
efforts of the Ukrainian Government and all state institutions that have made the fulfilment of the
VLAP benchmarks a top national priority.
Background
The enhanced mobility of citizens in a secure and well-managed environment is one of the core
objectives of the Eastern Partnership. To this end, the EU carries out Visa Liberalisation Dialogues
with interested partner countries.
The main tool of the dialogue is the Visa Liberalisation Action Plan which is tailor-made for each
partner country and structured around four blocks concerning i) document security, including
biometrics; ii) integrated border management, migration management, asylum; iii) public order and
security; and iv) external relations and fundamental rights. These benchmarks were set with a view to
adopting a legislative, policy and institutional framework (phase 1) and ensuring its effective and
sustainable implementation (phase 2).
The EU-Ukraine Visa Liberalisation Dialogue was launched on October 2008 and the VLAP was
presented to the Ukrainian authorities on November 2010.
In September 2011, the Commission adopted its first progress report on Ukraine's implementation of
the VLAP and made several recommendations for completing the first (legislative and planning) phase.
The Commission published its second progress report on 9 February 2012, and the third on 15
November 2013. Following the Commission's fourth report on 27 May 2014 and its endorsement by
the Council on 23 June 2014, Ukraine was officially in the second phase of the action plan where an
assessment was made regarding sustainable implementation of the legislative and policy framework.
The Commission adopted the fifth progress report on Ukraines implementation of the VLAP on 8 May
2015. Today's report is the sixth and last progress report.
Sixth progress report on Ukraine's implementation of the action plan on visa liberalisation
http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-15-6367_en.htm
Pressure mounts on
Government over public
services card
Civil liberties groups urge debate on identity card issue
and possible future uses
Sat, Aug 26, 2017, 01:42
Elaine Edwards
Regina Doherty: Nobody is required by law to have a card. So, therefore, it
isnt compulsory. But for my department its mandatory
Pressure increased on the Government on Friday over the
roll-out of the public services card after Minister for Social
Protection Regina Doherty confirmed it was mandatory
for anyone claiming a welfare benefit to have one.
There is only one way to make secure biometric identity - NEVER collect non-revocable
biometric data
regulation of biometric data processing operations in mainly the private sector.
The author formulates seven general principles, based on the previous analysis,
and makes detailed recommendations structured in nine domains for both the
national and international legislator. One of the principles to be embedded in
legislation is no hidden or secret collection of biometric data, while another is
the availability of an alternative system if the biometric data processing relies on
consent. The recommendations include distinct use by the private and public
sector and enhanced rights for the data subjects.
You'll soon need a public
services card to renew your
passport
Concerns have been raised about the card, with some critics
maintaining it equates to an identity card by stealth.
August 28, 17
FOREIGN AFFAIRS MINISTER Simon Coveney has
confirmed that by the end of next year, anyone applying to
renew their passport will need to present a copy of their
public services card.
The card is already required when applying for a passport in
certain circumstances. However, Coveney said this morning
that it will be needed in all cases from late next year.
The ID card has been under the spotlight recently after a
number of stories of people losing out on public services
because they do not have one.
The Irish Council of Civil Liberties has expressed concern
about the use of the cards and some legal experts in the area
have stated that it equates to an identity card by stealth.
Explainer: Pretty soon youre going to
need this card to do a whole load of important
things in Ireland but why?
There is no legal requirement for Irish citizens to hold the
card, but in order to access welfare benefits, the Department
of Social Protection requires applicants to have one.
On Friday, Minister for Social Protection Regina Doherty
said the card was not compulsory but was mandatory for
her department.
We believe that its not too much to ask people to
authenticate who you are, so that we can give you fast and
efficient public service, Doherty told Newstalk Breakfast.
http://www.thejournal.ie/public-services-card-passports-3568044-Aug2017/
Talk about deviousness. This article and the "Department
Spokesperson"'s reaction to people's rightful suspicion of these
National ID cards are simply despicable Stasi-style tactics.
While the Department can not be certain of the various reasons
individuals choose to no longer engage with us (emigration, change
of status etc), it is not unreasonable to suggest that in some cases this
represents individuals engaged in identity fraud who did not wish to
be uncovered."
It's incredibly unreasonable to make such a determination based on
zero evidence!. WTF?!
You are not complying by force so therefore you must be doing
something wrong and we will assume you are committing fraud.
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JenMurnaneOConnor @JenMurnaneOConn
Public Services Card (PSC) ID Policy - TheoryTest.ie -
The official RSA Driver Theory Test
http://
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http://www.thejournal.ie/public-services-card-3496359-Jul2017/