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I. INTRODUCTIOW.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1
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L923 1 9 2 6
LETTERS. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . *111
ANOTATIONS. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I 4 3
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LETTERS. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 165
ANOTATIONS. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I 9 1
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LETTERS. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 215
ANOTATIOHS. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 2 5
COMMENTARY/The Key Letter
Overview . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 238
Key Letter . . . . . . . . . . . 239
.Christmas 1921
Recognition of Childhood Traumas
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Drive for Relation~hip
Regression . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 246 247
Identification with the Child . .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. 249
Body. Health and Psycho~somatics 252
D i s c 1 osure of Negative Feelings . . . . . . . . 254
COMMENT1IRY/Ideas Between Groddeck and Ferenczi
Groddeck's tettets . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 258
Groddeck's Influence and Importance . . .. .. .. .. 261
Mother and Child: Significance of Mother
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V. CONCLUSION . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 276
VII . REPERINCIS
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l i ~ he w suroa~qeathe a d s t i n u Ge-
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Ferenczi-Otoddeck Correspondence 1921/1933 Inttoduction
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Ferenczi-Groddeck Correspondence 1921/1933 fntroduction
A) EEBEIScz 1 G R w l m u m L m ' T H E Hf S T Q P OF P ~ Y ~ ~ ~ S
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Petencri-Gsoddeck Correspondence 1921/1933 f ntroduction
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HfS'PQRY
Ferencti's letters to Oroddeck make substantive
contributions to questions still debated in present-day
psychoanalysis and psychotherapy. A number of the letters
also address broader issues in the philosophy of science.
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t Day Debates ~n Psycho
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The question has been asked: Wave Ferenczi and his ideas
been "captured" by those who today champion the influence of
the environment over classical Freudian theory -- based on
instinct, fantasy and infantile sexuality -- in the
aetiology of mental disturbance? How would Ferenczi respond
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Psychoanalysis deals far too gne n i w with
obsessive neurosis and character analysis --
that is,
ego psychoIogy --while neglecting the organic-
hysterical basis of the analysis. This results from
overest- the role of fantasy, and u e r w t i r m ) t i ~
that of traumatic reality, in pathogenesis.
(Cited in Dupont, 1988, m i i ) [my italics]
This does not preclude that over the next years, leading to
his 1933 "Confusion of Tongues" paper and his clinical
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c iutw. 2 ~ e ~ it8
a t ~
=o====tiv= =- ~ ~
ce a~ obmosed to nter~retation.
This juxtaposition has also been characterized as direct
experience versus insight, process versus content, patient
subjectivity versus "scientific'@ theory, and empathy versua
interpretation.
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Ferenczi-Gtoddack Correspondence 1921/1933 Introduction
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Ierencxi-Groddeck Correspondence 1921/1933 Introduction
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Perenczi-Clroddeck Correspondence 1921/1933 Introduction
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4. Science as ODDOS-O
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i n t u i t l ~ :Rom.nticism. m v s t i c ~
d the metaohvsical as aoaiapt loaic. r a t i m a l i t ~gna
science,
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Fermczi-Groddeck Correspondence 1921/1933 Introduction
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Introduction
The Romantic heritage paved the way, not only for advances
in medical psychology, but eventually tor philosophical and
practical harmony with the dark period of German National
Socialism (Cocks, p.39).
writes :
Paracelsus's notion of each individual as a microcosm
mirroring the macrocosm was also implicit in the
monadology of teibnit (1646-1716), who conceived of an
irreducible entity of life force....The figure of
Leibniz extends in a direct line to the efforts of
those psychotherapists in Germany after 1933 who
attempted to fabricate an exclusive German tradition of
discovering, exploring, and analysing the human
unconscious, ( p . 4 0 )
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Grossman, 1965).
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on self W Y B ~c i l ) l v t h e ~ l v s t ' qqelf .
(rsm
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m,
was also published. This volume includes my
chapter, "The Case of 'M':Sandor Ferencri's Radical
Experiment in Psychoanalysis," the first detailed
biographical study of Ferenczi's critical patient "R.N.,"
and the story of their mutual analysis.
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Ferencri-Groddeck Correspondence 1921/1933 Introduction
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Perenczi-Groddeck Correspondence 1921/1933 Introduction
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Ierenczi-Groddeck Correspondence 1921/1933 Int reduction
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Fetencxi-Groddeck Correspondence 1921/1933 Introduction
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Ferencai-Groddeck Correspondence 1921/1933 Introduction
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Edited by Christopher John Fortune
Translated by Norbert Ruebsaat
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~arnisch-~artenki
tchen6
Rest home [Kurheim] Wigger
1 7 Aug. 1921
Dear Colleague, 7
I am staying at t h e above spa for a period of rest and I am
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Your humble,
S. Ferenczi
G. Partenkirchen
Kurheim Wigger
d.24. 8 . 21
Dear Co 11eague ,
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Hildesheim, 23.9.1921
Dear ~riend,
l9
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(By the way, do you not suspect that the famous phrase about
the "cry for the child" [Schrei nach dem ~ i n d e ]is simply
the inversion of the desire to hear children crying?)
Maybe I'd better tell you the dream I had last night:
difficult to write about, since it was a pure "Hungarian"
dream:
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Now you know enough! I also know that one normally tells
one's wife everything. ? I o wI ~
must
v~ admit
~ ,t o being
Ferencti
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Budapest, 27.11.22
Dear Groddack, 69
flow shall f begin? We have not had news from one another
(the fault being mine) for such 8 long time. The iettet
which I wrote then,7o your which I read through
todap: a11 old material. f think it is better to start
fresh. My conditionT2 has markedlr improved since the
beginning of January. The visit t o ~ i e n n a ,where
~~ I
delivered two lectures t o Americans and E A ~ ~ ~ s ~ I Wwas
~,'~
still marred by i l l hemlth, but shortly afterwards my mood
as well as my physical state improvad noticeably. 1 c a o t
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work yet.90
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How you have left the lonely House of zink,lo3 and are
our
teinstated in the beautiful Villa Marienhohe, lo4
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Your
Ferenczi
Dear Groddeck,
We fear that the letter in which my wife inquired about the
possibility of her daughtcr lo7 staying with you (in ~ugust)
has been l o s t . lo* Also, your response t o the mile-long
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Ferenczi
Dear Groddeck,
Now everything is in order. My wife's daughter (her name is
Elma Laurvik) will arrive at the beginning of August. She
will be coming from San Francisco, where she is currently
living. It is not clear whether she will return there, as
her marriage situation is quite unsteady. she is not
financially in a strong position, but will have the funds
necessary for a stay at the sanitarium at her disposal. She
is not disposed toward a particularly luxurious room. I am
convinced she will be comfortable with you, and find
recovery. 111
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Your
Ferenczi
Baden-Baden 9.5.1922
Dear Ferenczi:
F i r s t to let you know that we sent letters t o you and your
wife 10 days ago. In them we expressed our joy at seeing
you again and out hope about the successful treatment of
pour stepdaughter. I hope that both letters, which crossed
yours, have arrived.
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[kte by Groddeck'a eaeettor, lugreth Iregqer, alrg with truactiptim of the letter: 'the above
is 4 draft of a letttr to kncri. ihetkr i t w
u r a t ir tYr f m ir r t hn.']
Dear Groddeck,
It is no one's fault but your own that 1 have been unable to
recommend a better spa or reaort than Marianhohe to my
people. 114 M p wife's daughter. whose arrival I announced in
previous letters, will arrive the 1st of August. My
sister-in-law, Frau Otto norando,116 writes from Hamburg
that she will meet us in Baden-Baden. I trust you will be so
kind as to take her into your care as well; she is strongly
in need of i t . A t the end of August my w i f e and I will
arrive there, and we will stay until the Congress.LIT
I will
be spending the month of August ip TvrplL. with the
Ranks. lL8 I will be taking an English wonwan colleague, who
has no other time available t o her. there w i t h f M
Your,
Ferenczi
Bpest, V I f Nagydiofa utca 3
Dear friend,
1 am not surprised that--as you write--the analytical result
of materials that spring forth from arousal and agitation
are so minimal. 1 don't believe in self analysis. The
unconsciour is tricky enough to lead one astray at p r e c i s e l y
the important points. Analysis requires a degree of self-
disclosure [selbst-entauberung] which is not possible when a
large part of ones psychic capabilities are engaged in the
critical mode. And that is the case in self analysis, where
one wants, simultaneously, to be father and son. Partial
analyses are perhaps p o s s i b l e via this route, but will
serve, a t most, to deepen or widen that which is already
known. One does not achieve v i t a new insights about oneself
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Your
Ferenczi
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Your
F.
GRODDECK TO FERENCZI
Dear Sandor,
I'm only now answering your treatise of October 11th; thus I
am a t an advantage because you have forgotten what you
wrote. I w i l l bypass the question of self analysis and its
results, f o r I have little to say about this, and cannot do
much with the tam. In my opinion, life itself is the main
analyst, and what we doctors have to add t o that is largely
pathetic presumption. We are uilless instruments which life
uses t o achieve some never-to-be-deciphered ends. Every time
a benign fate sends me this insight for a short moment I am
happy and well, no matter what is going on in me or around
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undergone analysis. But you are dumb, they say, so come and
listen please to what w i s e men have to say about Oedipus,
totem and taboo, theories of child sexuality, anal and
castration complexes, parroting Freud without understanding
him. "The earth is round, and I am at its centre," Tante
Anna liked to say, and 1 presume this is the standpoint of
a11 people. Freud called it Narcissism. 1 hope he has not
forgotten how to laugh.147
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Say hello to Gisella, and tall her that her child and her
sister are pleasant people, whom one is glad to t r e a t .
You will soon find out for yourselves that Elma has not
gotten worse here. But where has your memory gone? W e spoke
often about your breathing difficulties, lS0 but
unfortunately you kept a lot hidden. But that is life, isn't
it; repression [Verdrangen] is its substance.
Dear Georg,
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from your
Sandor Ferenczi
B e s t wishes for the New Year also from me! Elma i s coming in
a few days and will be able to tell us many nice things
about you--to which we are already looking forward.
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Your Gisella F *
your
S
p ark ins on's Disease in later life has been linked to this
influenza.
4.~pastic -- the inability to relax specific muscles which
inhibits normal muscle action. Paresis -- partial paralysis
or weakness of muscle.
5. Catatonic -- Intermittent uncontrol led muscle
contractions.
6 . Small town in the German Bavarian Alps, just over the
Austrian border.
. The German original: "Schr qcchrtcr Herr Kollege" is even
more formal and translates as "Very honoured Colleague."
'. The Secret Comnittcc was to meet in the Harz Mountains of
Germany. See Committee l e t t e r 23.9.1921.
'. G i z d la Farenczi ( 1 8 6 5 - 1 9 4 9 ) , nee A 1 tschul ("Palos" by
first marriage).
lo. Amplifying the standard account, this seems to indicate
that Ferenczi's initial v i s i t to Groddeck was for more than
simply to seek treatment as Groddeck's patient, but that he
was interested in learning more about his work. See
introduction for more on Groddeck's approaches.
ll. Groddcck's p
er- (can also be translated at
"Searcher for Souls") -- was the first psychoanalytic novel.
Ferenczi's review appeared in German in (1921),7, 356.
In English, w, p.344-348.
12. A reference to Groddeckts most famous book, t h e Bopk
$he I t (London: Vision Press, 1950; reprint ad., New York:
Vintage, 1961). Originally published as Buch v u in
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7 5 , 301-320.
October 1916.
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with Elma, his valuable energies would have been much less
available for the development of psychoanalysis. See Freud-
Ferenczi, Vol I, (1993)-
Gtoddeckms The Book of the ft [m Rueh vom &]. See
earlier note letter 17 Aug. 1921.
51. Sandor, Gizcl l a , Elma, and Magda Palos (married to
Ferenczits youngest brother, Lajos Ferenczi (1879-n.d.),
Gizella's youngest daughter by her first marriage to Geza
Palos.
s 2 . Another interpretation of the dream, offered by Eva
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Poet.
9 8 . See 7 July 1929 latter re: Ferenczi's deserting the heat
of a Budapest sunmcr for for the cool of the mountains in
St. Moritz, Switzerland.
99. 7th IPA Congress in Berlin from 25 to 27 September.
loo. Reference to the growth of the International
Psychoanalytic Association.
lol.This may mean the lack of the body t o compensate when
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Dear Georg,
I f I r e c a l l correctly you w i l l be opening the doors to
narienhohe on precisely this day. This is what you wrote, I
think, in your last letter to Elma. I use this occasion to
express my sympathies t o you, although I know for myself
that a f t e r a certain period of vacationing even the desire
to work can show its face again.
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Dear Georg,
Now I write on s professional matter. Ever since her son
was k i l l e d i n the war, a 47 year old lady, wife of a Count
has been suffering from symptons of ...(Shaking, stiff
posture, stiff walk, f rosen f a c i d expression a t c . )19
Therapy until now unsuccessful. I want t o a s k you whether,
in such cases, you would reconmend a combined treatment of
psychological and physiological therapy, and whether you
have had some experience in t h i s kind of thing. Perhaps the
lady would agree to go to ade en- ad en. 21 Please let m e know
soon!
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Dear Georg,
for example, I see things very darkly. --I beg you to pass
this on to no one (Frau Enmy excluded).
My own struma (which is probably ~ u b a t e r n a l )has
~ ~ become
larger and causes distress nightly; which leaves me with
just sufficient energy to put in my nine daily working hours
(which f require for my daily bread). There is little space
left for literature. 32 --But soon I will atop working, and
then pursue in greater earnest the plans on which I have
bean holding back, (continuation of the genital theory) 33 .
Since the other pro jact on which f am working with ~ a n k , ~ ~
however, requires that 1 stay in direct touch with him, I
must put out of my mind the wonderful thought of visiting
you again, at least this year; a11 the more SO since I plan,
after completing the time with Rank, t o meet with the Prof.
(probably i n South Tyrolia) 35 .
time.
Klobenstein by ~ o s e n ,(now
~ ~ Italy). 5 Aug. 1923.
Dear Georg,
We received worthwhile news from the Professor--although we
are by no means over our anxiety about him. I plan to meet
I think you will be very pleased with it, as with a new book
of Rank's. 45
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Your
Sandor
Dear Geotg:
Enclosed is the address of Reverend Arthur Meyrick, a 72-
year-old Ong. parson who suf f e t s from f istulation
disturbances. His father did the same. His wife broke her
arm recently but it mended well. Soon afterwards her knee
joint swelled up, but it receded spontaneously. I
urged them to see you; would you tell them through me, what
they would have to pay for board and treatment.
Your
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Sandor
Dear Georg:
Thank you for your congratulations. This celebration was
premature. The impatient crowd was determined to turn me
into a Nobel Prize winner and Freud and Rank into this
extravagance. 51 Nevertheless it was a good opportunity to
Mrs. I . ~ c v e s zcame
~ ~ home quite excited: "What is this
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Dear Georg,
f t just came to me that I am able, on the occasion of your
upcoming birthday, 5 s to revenge myscl f for your
congratulations on my fiftieth birthday. I needn't wish you
a long life, since you may, if you wish it, live forever;
the same goes for good health, fortune, and a l l those things
for which we other mortals so often yearn in vain. I ' l l
therefore restrict m y s e l f to expressing my joy
that your It saw fit to maintain you so well and keep you in
such good spirits. We are also pleased to know you are in
the vicinity of another sympathetic It, whom we find so
charming, and who may claim at least partial responsibility
for the fact that, after all, you remain physically and
mentally the person that you a r d 6
The editorial work on the Genital Theory and the work with
Rank has begun. 57
Your
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Budapest, 2S/X/23
bear Georg,
I can say the following regarding the Prof.'s condition:
they conducted a pteoperation (ligating the external carotid
Three or four days later they removed 113 of the
right maxillary and a lamina of the inferior maxillary. They
imnediately inserted a prosthesis and covered the defect
with a skin transplant. The second operation lasted three
hours. 59 Prof. is taking everything heroically. After a few
days of fever he recovered and is to return home from the
sanatoriumb0 by the end of the week. He is said to be well.
The piece which they removed shows that all that was
disaasad has been dealt with. 62 A11 of us hope for the beat.
Your
Sandor
lote: Polribly urtia( Iettttr beewe of l u l e 98): 0ct.-Jwr. 1Ithoagh mest l e t t u does begin
with i c h r l e d g u r t of long 90. Ilao, it q p e m that the k t r n i r did not tiait th Oroddeck
mitorim io 1923 at 111.
Dear Oeorg,
Now there's no doubt it's my turn. I haven't written to you
f o r a long time because I didn't know what my srtllraer would
look like. The plan was to follow an Ametican invitation,
but the latter shriveled into a "future possibility. n64 Now
we plan to spend the month of July in a pension near
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Dear Georg,
I am a t work again and it feels as i f 1 had never been in
1.Dear Doctor,
My congratulations on your birthday-f am thinking with l o t a
of love of Harionhohe and 13 October of l a s t year-a
wonderful day--It is as if I had lived through a beautiful
fairy tale. I would like to go back to the doctor f o r
months so as to gain a lot of benefit from him to improve my
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yours
Zsuka
Dear Georg,
Mr von Bakrup arrived today accompanied by Hofrat Dr. Bovos
(hospital director). Dr Bovos is a clever but unimposing
physician which you will confirm when you speak t o him.
Your
Sandor F.
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To a happy reunion,
Your Sandor F
Dear Georg
A 1 1 those t o whom you sent greetings v i a me, return these
greetings heartily.
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from your
Sandor
Bpest 26.VII.25
To a happy reunion,
Frankfurt S / f X 1925
Dear Friends,
Greetings to you. The congress is over, fortunately.
Sandor, bixella
See you soon!
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Genova [Italy]. 1 0 . 9 . 2 5
Dear Friends,
1 write t o you t o give you a taste of Italy. Yesterday, we
flew to Maren[?], went swimoing in the sea, got 7 thorns of
a sea urchin in my hand and foot. a beautiful Italian lady
helped me to pull them out-isn't it wonderful! Beautiful
weather! Today we will go on board.
Your Gizella.
otel V i t t o.f ~
Dear Friends !
What a surprise t o open the g ' ~ t c " 8 6today and have my name
jump out a t us. And how proud I was t o have my birthday87
provide the occasion for you, dear friend--how ahall I call
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you? Can't say Gaorg, don't want to say pat8*--to send such
intereating thoughts to your readers. It makes one want to
have a birthday every day, when such wonderful things
happen.
I embrace you,
Gizella
Your
Sandor
w.21 October 1925: Arcregi pasutd r lrctue to Iuguicr Society titled 'lo@ to h w
rlen retiir tsyck--udytic tetbaiqw ahodd at s b d d not be ued.3
B p e s t , 6 . December 1925
Dear Friend,
The day before yesterday I received a letter from Freud in
which he wrote of the great discomforts this otherwise small
operation caused him. 92 It was for this reason therefo m
that he was unable t o speak t o you for longer than an
hour, 93 He said he was generally quite exhausted which
interfered with his work. fe wrote about his personal
sympathies toward you, his esteem for your discovery of the
influence of psychoanalysis on the organic realm, your
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Pour
Sandor
He was very well liked in Berlin. Eitingon, lo3 who will take
up his position, will only be able to replace him on the
organizational level. Proferaor uttered the wish that I move
to ~ c r l i n ; l Oa~ few of the younger Berliners (Sinunel,105
Alexander lo()seem supportive of thia idea. The plan does
not agree with my passive disposition.
It was nice that we could see each other again in the fall
this time. lo7But you will not escape my awrmner visit this
year either--we don't plan to make things that easy for you.
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Your
Sandor
Dear Friends,
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Now t o you!
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[Waldhauschen] a1
from your
Sandor
Dear Friend,
haven't written tor a long time. I have in the meantime
been subjected t o atrong influences which wanted t o per8u.de
m e to give up my America trip and relocate t o Vienna t o take
over t h e Presidency. Prof. Freud was especially strongly fpL
Vienna and .a.inst America. I vacillated for a long time,
but decided finally t o go through with the America plan. I
don't foteree a income coming from there, but I do
hope to strangthen my connections abroad. I don't know
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Your
Sandor
Dear Georg,
I t is more and more l i k e l y that we will stay 8 days in
~ * ~then for the same length of time in
~ e n m e r i n ~ ,and
Munich, where I: will be having an intense discussion and a
few days in the mountains with Lou Salome. 12' Thus w e would
a r r i v e i n Baden-Baden around the 6th-8th of September and
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stay 8-10 days. The further trip t o the port is not settled
yet (Hamburg or Cherbourg); depends on political conditions
in Paris.128
Best greetings t o you all.
f ram Perenctis
Dear Friends,
We celebrated Gisella's birthday here in Munich, where we
met with Frau Lou Salome. Before that we spent a week in the
Senmering with Prof. Freud. Yerv ~ t o b & l r we will take
Frau Salotne with us to Baden-Badea as our guest: she will
likely stay 2-3 days. Our artival t i m e is not y e t set; it
could be as early as this Thursday. We will in any event
telegraph you. We y y v much look forward t o seeing you. 130
Please inform my sister-in-law also, if she is still
there. 131
Fondly,
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[signed] 8 .
B t i 1 l in Baden-Baden,
13. October 1926. 132
from your
Sandor Ferenczi
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psychoanalytic journal.
2 4 . A hyperkeratinization of the oral m u c o m , with
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A book,
'Im ~ev-t -
of ~ * v c h o (Hew
York/Washington: Nervous and Mental Disease Pub. Co., 1925).
was co-authored with Otto Rank and at least in part written
in Kl obenstein .
3 5 . This meeting between Ferenczi and Freud did not happen.
Ferenczi (and Gizella) and Rank were in Rlobenstein writing
their book and they had hoped to visit Freud for a f e w days
in Lavaronne before the committee meeting (the first meeting
to be held without Freud). However, they decided against a
visit because they thought i t might make the other c o d t t e e
members jealous. (ref: E. Falzeder, personal comunication,
March, 1995 and Grosskurth, 1991, rhe Secret u,
p.131).
3 6 . Again, Fercnczi doesn't seem to have reviewed the book
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note.
47. Ferencri, like other analysts in that t i m e , saw patients
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# 5.
66. The Farencris names don't appear in the sanitarium
guestbook for 1924. Ferencri wrote to Freud from Baden-
Baden the 21 September. Freud-Perencsi letter. show that on
27 September, Ferencri was in Vienna and back in Budapest on
10 October.
67. The eight Congress of International Psychoanalytical
Association waa held in Salrburq 21-23 April. Ferenczi did
not present a paper at the conference, however, there was a
seminar on psychoanalytic theory and technique responding to
Ferencsi's (and Rank's) ideas.
68. Freud stayed at the "Villa Schullet" in the Samering --
an area of many hotels approximately 100 km. southwest o f
Vienna.
69. E. Roeder (n.d. ) . This name appear. in the guestbook
for 1923.
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United States.
12=. Martonhegyi ut is in the h i l l s on the Buda side of the
Danube. The ~erencris' apartment on Wagydiofa u. was in the
busy, more comarcial Pest side, just off the bustling main
s t r e e t , Rakoczi utca. The lagydiofa u. apartment was his
first with G i z e l l a , where they lived until 1930.
126. Visiting Freud. See earlier note re: Senmering.
. See earlier note, Christmas Day 1921 letter, re: Lou
Sal ome .
128. Probably a reference to the trouble surrounding the
collapse of the French franc, and ~oincad's r e c a l l to the
Presidency of the Council, supported by the large banking
i n t e r e s t s attempting to restore the franc. This trouble,
although relatively moderate, was enough to scare those who
had recently experienced the inflation in Central Europe.
1
2
'
. Beginning 22/23 August, the Ferencris stayed in a hotel
(probably the "Suedbahn Hotelwt ) near the v i l l a where Freud
was holidaying. See Freud-Ferenczi correspondence, 26 July
1926, unpublished.
.
13* The Perenczis , along with Lou Salonre, arrived at the
sanitarium Thursday, 2 September. Lou Salome left four days
later, on the 6th, and the Ferenczis left for France on the
18th of September. The Ferenczis sailed for New York 23
September 1926 on the "Adanid' (Cunard l i n e ) from Cherbourg.
Prance .
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realm.
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I'm not working much now--5-6 hours per day: yet, counter to
my expectations, 1 don't accomplish much in my free time. I
loaf.
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Your
Sandor:
v, ROTE Large gap in tle letters of nine months. leaning? Spetolations: Is ltrenezi graduallz
herd, r t a i a o f political-social situation in
getting more de~rtsstd? Isolated? Grninp tif t @it&
hiaptst? A discontent since his return from berica? (it changed hm
i s o a t L ? ) What art indicctionr
of his growing darker mod?
Dear Friends,
#ow can I thank you for your generosity! The best course is
probably to declare myself incapable of being worthy o f your
kindness. At any rate I lack a ready expression for it. So
best t o drop t h i s .
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Your
Sandor
Dear Friends,
We couldn't even congratulate Pat on his birthday1*--didn't
know where you were! So: all the best for the future! May
the Doctor retain his everlasting youth, to the great joy of
all who are in his vicinity. I curiously await the results
of his more recent developments.
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your
Sandor
Dear Friend,
The enclosed letter is intended to explain my telegram21
from yesterday in more detail. In addition to putting my
signature t o the lines written by Frau v . ~ e s r ~ or
o , ~ ~
rather, requesting that the wish contained therein be
granted ( i f possible), I would add that Frau v. T i s a
highly inteiligent morally upstanding woman, the widow of
our history museum Director. She is herself a first rate
journalist. (She writes f o r the Frankfurter Zeitung, Pester
Lloyd, New York Times, e t c . )
- C - I I I I I I I I I I C I I I ~ * I I I
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e o f t e n think of you.
Please write some time. W
Your
Sandor
[ ~ ~ ~l e t=t edr ]
Letterhead: Dr. med. G. Groddeck
Baden-Baden, Woeders t r . 14
Dear Sandor,
Chance, or rather my bookseller, brought me the news of your
w i l l f u l leap from the psychic to the organic2* and now I
don't know what t o do with you. Maybe you can f i n d a way
out; it would be good for both of us. 29
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ED. NOTE: Ietencri unerd thir Irtttr with I t t l y t a , which mftrtuattly n r not p e r e r r 4
7 . July 1929
Dear Friend,
The above date3' is occasion for me to assure you and Emkc
of my unaltetable tender feelings toward you.
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Your
Sandor
Dear Friend,
Although you interrupted the continuation of our discussion
regarding c e r t a i n misunderstandings between us --
misunderstandings whose details are not clear to me40--
this does not prevent me from pursuing our friendly
relations.
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Your
Sandor
d ~ K. is not entirely
P.S. I just returned from ~ o v a c Herr
well; his symptoms I advised him to seek you out
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The t r i p to Vienna was good for me. It became clear that all
the d i f f e r e n c e s of opinion are superficial; in fact, I
experienced a greater readiness to compromise than during
previous altercations. 6 9
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~ ~ up tour,
My principal patient, "the ~ u a c n , "takes
sometimes five hours of my time daily. Exhausting, but
worth while. 1 believe I will shortly, or in the n o t too
distant future, be in a position, finally, to announce what
it means t o complete an The other patients79
arc live1 y and act outso as we1 1, and remind me daily of
what I wrote regarding the need to return t o a proper
discussion of the origin of trauma. Analysis, meanwhile,
as the practice is developing with me, requires greater
self-sacrifice than we had previously been accustomed to. 82
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Dear Friend,
Hearty greetings from this hearty land. It is too bad I
cannot congratulate you in this sun and sea resort.8s Do not
pass up the chance, when you have gathered enough Pounds,86
to arrange a stay here. It is too [su] beautiful! -- and no
more expensive than Germany.
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Your
Sandor
Capri 17 . 0 c t . 1931
i n Budapest on the 1 s t .
Your Sandor.
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Dear P a t ,
1 just learned from Sarlota that you could not reach a
decision regarding a place to go this winter.
superior, but the sea journey is a little too long when the
weather is bad. Palermo will undoubtedly be very beautiful,
except for occasional Scirocco days. It, like Algiers, has
good h o t e l s and b a t h s . Around Palermo, the spread-out
hinterland offers ample opportunity for excursions of the
g r e a t e s t v a r i e t y : you can go everywhere by automobile. When
I was in P a [Palenno] with Professor Freud we lived in the
Hotel de Fr- and had a well-functioning bath. We were
v e r y satisf icd. 95 The price was approximately half that of
Hotel-Villa fgila.
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Yours Gitella.
[ ~ e t t e rtyped]
Letterhead: DR. S , FERENCZI BUDAPEST I . LISZNYAI U. 11
XI. 3 , 1931
Dear Pat,
Just a few lines about your winter plans. We hear wonderful
things about the amenities, warmth and freshness of the
winter climate in meg7
(Now in Italy. ) Natural beauty
combined with highly developed cuisine and accomodation.
Baths and central heating everywhere. We heard from someone
that even in the last weeks of Octobet, when i t was stormy
a11 over Europe, it was mild and pleasant in Meran.
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[Letter typedlg9
Letterhead: DR, S. FERENCZf BUDAPEST 1. LISZNYAI: U. 11
3 . March 1932
Dear Friends,
Thank you for your extensive reports, which this time, thank
God, sounded positive. I don't know what to admire more:
Emkc's or Pat's unshakably optimistic spirit, which triumphs
over all tendencies to illness.
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BOWtong gap between letters of on par. ID fact, generaIIy in the M'S then i s more space
between Iettea, there are ma? @oreletters b l Arenczi to irtrd thu Croddeck, but wen then, during
ienncsi'r more isolated perioi there ue iers to Creud as well.]
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[Letter typed]
Letterhead: DR. S. FERENCZI BUDAPEST I . LISZNYAI U. 11
20. March 1933.
Dear Friends !
It is obviously not possible to sin without retribution,
especially not for so many years. lo5 My illness in Badan-
~ the beginning of a quite dangerous anemia,
~ a d e n l Owas
which almost overwhelmed me in France, so that f could
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[wthis ns the last letter lrrencai wtote t o troddeck. Ftrreri died 22 hr 1933 (at 2:30
!&).I
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worked with Ferenczi from 1924 until a few months before his
death in 1933. Severn had had a major breakthrough in her
treatment earlier in 1928, which had left her somewhat
desperate emotionally and psychologically dependent on
Ferenczi. Obviously Ferenczi didn't want to interrupt her
treatment at this critical point. Although little known,
she was an important influence on Ferenczi in his last
years, and initiated Ferenczi's experiment in mutual
analysis (Perencti, 1932). Fecenczi acknowledged her
influence in two of his last papers "The principle of
relaxation and neocatharsis," piQ (1930b). pp.121-22, and
"Child analysis in the analysis o f adults," Pin, (1931),
pp.133-34. As the case of " R . N . , " Severn played a large
role in Ferenczi's Clincal Diarv (1932). For more on Severn
and Ferenczi, see Fortune (1993) "The case of RN: Sandoc
Perancri's radical experiment in psychoanalysis," in
eaacv of Smdor Ferencd. Eds. L. Aron and A. Harris,
Hillsdale, N.J.: The Analytic Press, pp.101-120. See also
Fortune (1994).
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his work with technique and now trauma. 1 get the feeling
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to Freud at this point (even though Perencri writes more to
~reud). Ferencri looks to Oroddeck as a sympathetic spirit.
Ferenczi knows from his discussions with Freud that he
'doesn't approve of his work directions.
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Jll-, Introduction, p . 3 ) .
-a: A Theory of G u i t v . See notes above.
34. see note above.
3s. The 1 1 t h Congtem of t h e Iatetnrtional Psycho-Analytical
Association w.8 held in Oxford, gagland, 27-31 July 1929.
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A t the Congress, six weeks after Groddeck's critical letter,
l v n s of o r m.c -ern.
b . w&
I t t h a t he
h i s mati- to
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Psycho-Analytical Society.
53. See earlier note re: Patin (25 October 1927).
their correspondence.
55. Ferencsi had a long atanding intereat in telepathy;
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[m:
Oa 10 October 1931 larcri wrote to ired: 'I u,rkre alI, u yitieirl.. .Idear ate
drays closely linked with the rieissit~desin the treatment of patients, rd by them ate either
repudiated o t confin(. (in pirnav). ). 11 Januty 1930 he wrote to iteud: '. ..a rlole
arm ariu of qrestiau L m m come into a new, a akr)ec bcu, perkr em the )roblr of
r r i o nin I ) . h2 I 9 3 0 Rracgi wrote tc ?red tbat h has bm id
to 'min the theory of tramtiam, a))crrtly okolrte (or a t h u t tr)orarily pukl wide)' (in
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cl p. air). krrcai's find p p e n , and letters to Fred, focasd on thir ~ort. tee
..
Introduction, meal ()pa xii-1:) far ute on ?tttrcai's dereloping thoughts (includes
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Eng 1and.
8 7 . Fatigue seems to be one of the early signs prefiguring
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.
lo7 After Baden-Baden the Ferenczis went to Biarritt in the
south-west of France. However, due to his illness they cut
short their stay and returned horn.
lo*. Pernicious Anaemia is a deficiency in vitamin B-12 and
the treatment constituted massive doses of the vitamin. At
l i f e threatening.
log. Ferenczi 's relations with Freud were strained during
the last years, mainly due to their differences regarding
Ferencri's work directions and his withdrawal from Freud and
the larger psychoanalytic comnunity. This situation came to
a head in late August when Ferenczi, on the way to the
Wiesbaden Congress (4-7 September), v i s i t e d Freud in Vienna
to read him his "Confusion of tongues" (1933). the paper he
would present at the Congress. The charged meeting -- Freud
told Ferencra he should not publish the paper -- ended with
Freud refusing to shake Ferencri's outstretched hand (Jones,
1957, 8 1 ~ 0coafimed by Thompson, de Forest and Frornn).
Sadly, this was to be the last meeting of these two long-
time friends, and the encounter left Ferencsi feeling
discouraged and depressed.
ll*. Ferancri and Fraud resumed some correspondence over the
next months. It seams that Freud and Ferencri never did
make a complete break, and, in fact, in the lettera they
made a mutual attempt to put their diffetencea aside since
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Borache und K
& (Man as Symbol: Unauthoritative Views on
Language and Art). LeipziglVienna: Internationaler
Psychoanalytischer Verlag, 1933. Partially reprinted in
lvtische S c h y i f t e n eur L i t e r a t u r und K&. Re-
issued by Limes Verlag, Wiesbaden, 1973, (no English
translation). The book was sent to Freud who confirmed to
Groddeck the permanence of his esteem. This book was to
have been completed by a second person who was to have
analyzed humankind according to the body's different organs.
This section was never written.
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severn, who ended her work with Ferenczi and left Budapest
in late February, 1933 (Fortune, 1993). (In above letter o f
21 December 1930, Ferencsi had referred to Severn as the
"~ueen" ).
114* Elma was living a t home with Gizella and Sandor.
Elma's job with the American Consulate led t o a posting in
Berm, Switzerland.
Magda Fcrencri, nee Palos, Girellavs other daughter.
See note Christmas Day 1921 l e t t e r .
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Ferenczi-Groddeck Letters/Gizella Ferenczi-Groddeck
CRIPT TO F E ~ I ' DS w
My dear Friends,
In my sorrow I come to you again today. I am so unfathomably
sad. I cannot adjust to life without Sandor. I miss him from
morning to night. Every thought belongs t o him, everything
i s unimportant - senseless, if I cannot share it with him,
when he does not hear it or see it. I feel like crying a11
day, but I cannot do this because of the others. * 80 many
old people live, so many of them sick. Ihy did Sandor have
to leave the world ha so loved. It is incomprehensible. I
thought that I would visit you in July but I have to
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consider Magda and her husband. They can only go i n August.
I t will be very difficult for me t o travel t o B.B.- to you-
where Sandor and I spent s o many happy days. f don't know
whether I can do it the way 1 am f e e l i n g now. Everything
hurts too much. A few days ago I heard f r o m erdos piata3
that you are in Switzerland. Is one of you i l l ? Or was i t an
invitation? You have t o write t o m e , my beloved friends. I
am worried. Please forgive m e that I don't write any more.
I t i s s o difficult for me.
Yours Gizefla.
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often wished to be with you. I wrote you how sick Sandor was
when he returned home from his fa1 1 journey, yet he
recovered quite quickly, and the four winter months passed
carefree with lots of work and harmony. However, in March,
sandor became so weak that he had to stop giving analytic
sessions -- and we thought a long rest until September would
restore him. Unfortunately, his illness, pernicious
anaemia, had no mercy. He became weaker and weaker. He had
to be carried to bed because his feet would not carry him
anymore -- his mind became weaker.l lie spent four weeks in
bed. On 22nd May, the day of his death, he spoke to us, read
the neuspaper/joucnal [seitung] (which dropped out of his
hands) and called Sarolta to tell her there will be
revision^.^^^ Than we saw that ha suddenly became very weak.
All three of us wanted to have a cup of black coffee; Sandoc
wanted it cold, when we returned to his bed we saw that the
end was very near. Since that moment I cannot control
myself. I don't know how I will be able to live with my
great longing for him. I thank you for your kind words and
for loving Sandor -- I know you are with me in my sorrow,
We intended to visit you in the sununer, only Sandot thought
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My dear Friends,
I can count your letters written in friendship and love
among the few joys 1 received this Christmas. I am very
grateful to count you as my friends. I know that our
thoughts and feelings are on the same wavelength. It would
have hurt Sandor and me if it had not been this way.
However, 1 cannot agree with you W e , that Sandor
intuitively chose to die. He loved life, he wanted to enjoy
it, he wanted to live everything, good, e v i l , beautiful,
ugly-just live-live in this world. Every day it becomes more
puzzling -- why this death? I cannot accept it. Since 22nd
of May I feel I am saying goodbye to everything and
anything. Only when f think of my children do 1 feel
connected to life.
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Ms. Lou Salome writes once in a while. She asks whether
Groddeck, who knew Sandor's body so m-
, could not
have done something. She writes: are you atill in "contact
with the Groddecks?" Then again [Salome writes]: "1 think a
lot about the events and how Ferencti would have perceived
it. He who looked at death and life so differently from the
rest of us. His way and h i s wonderful temperament refused to
acknowledge any suggestion of death, even urged life out of
the moment of death". I quote this to show that i t was
incomprehensible even for her.
"~ o u r n a l "disagreeing
~ with Sandor, especial1 y his genital
theory. Perhaps Miss Collins knows something about it; say
hello to her. Baroness ["Batonin"] Sevetn supposedly
published a book--it will not be received with joy by the
orthodor Freudians. *
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I would have l i k e d t o have h e a r d your lecture i n London,
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Embrace you
Gizella.
Dear Gizella,
I deliberated for a long time whether to write you this
letter or not, but I have now decided to do so. I'm writing
it on the typewriter because it is the only way 1 can
clearly state what 1 have to say.
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group themselves together i n this way, then in that, which
work together, or in opposition to each other, and which at
times can lead quasi independent existences. I was satisfied
with this insight; 1 never tried to study this cosmos, for
it is not in my nature to imnerse myself in things which I
dontt consider knowable. l3
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the stars, a journey on which I could not and did not want
to accompany him. I can't tell you any more. The outward
circumstances of the l i f e of this uncomnon individual had
meaning only insofar as to show he was one of the g i v e r s ,
who w i l l g i v e again and again.15
[NO SIGNATURE ]
[No salutation]
Your letter dear Pat excited and disturbed me. I can see
that you too, needed some time to reflect before you could
answer me and make your position clear. Perhaps i t was rash
to cite Lou Salome's words to you. 1 never thought that you
could interpret them other than expressing the great
confidence we had in your a b i l i t i e s . I was very happy that
she believed in you and I wanted to convey that message.
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stars,'' [Sternsflug] as you called it, took him so far ahead
that he h i m e l f lost t h e final g o a l . This desperate
brooding, his b a t t 1e with hi8 knowledge and h i s conscience,
his constant doubt about the results o f his research, all
undermined his health. Do you believe that his sick kidnty
contributed to his death?17 If anyone, it was you who helped
him in his battle as long as he was s t i l l master of himself.
You remember how rejuvenated he always was on his return
from you, how he loved to be with you. Nobody had as
profound an influence over him as you, Pat. Never for a
moment believe that I wanted to accuse you. I have only l o v e
and gratitude in my heart for you. Not only did you t r e a t
Sandor medically, but you, as no other, loved, acknowledged,
and honoured him. They were happy and successful days we
spent i n your midst. It has been almost a year since Sandor
l e f t us, but it seems only yesterday.
Yours
Gitella
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Ferencsi-Groddeck Letters/Gizella Ferenczi-Gtoddeck
sister Sarolta.
3 . Zsofia Ferancrigs husband.
Interesting t o note that this line was excised from the
version published in The Wild ~ l ~ s ~ ~ ( p . 1 9This
1 ) .may
have been done to avoid fuelling the notion, presented by
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* . In the Pall of 1933, Elizabeth Sevcrn published a
iscoverv of the Selg. London: Rider. ~evern's accumulated
regal names: "the queen, the countess, the baroness"
w .
resonate with Ferencziws description of her in his
p i a ~ :"a somewhat sovereign, majestic superiority of a
queen, or even the royal imperiousness of a king" ( p a97) .
9. Britta.. . (n.d.). Enay Groddeck's niece.
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Fereaczi-broddeck Lettets/Gitella Ferencti-Groddeck
.-.. --
Ed,:
This letter, Groddeck's final analysis of his friend Sandor,
is poetic, and probably a quite accurate depiction of an
essence of Ferenczi -- his personality, illness and death.
Groddeck's view is an insightful addition to other
obituaries of Perencti by Freud, et al. (including Freud's
description of Ferenczi in "Analysis terminable and
interminablegg( 1 9 3 7 ) ) ,
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Fetenczi-Groddeck Correspondence Commentary
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Ferencai-Oloddeck Correspondence Conment ary
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Ferenczi-Groddeck Correspondence Commentary
Perenczi was also very busy, and would have been hard
pressed to find more time to write Groddeck. In the course
of twenty-five years he exchanged more than 1,200 letters
with Freud and regularly wrote conunittee rundbriefe.
Clinically, he worked 8-9 hours a day. had family
reponsibilities, wrote and lectured extensively, and was the
President of the Hungarian Psychoanalytic Society. As the
letters detail, Ferencri complained of fatigue, overwork,
and exhaustion.
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Fetencri-Oroddeck Correspondence Conmrentarp
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Ferenczi-broddeck Correspondence Comnentary
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Perenczi-Groddeck Correspondence Commentary
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Conunentary
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Ferencsi-Groddeck Correspondence Conmentary
IsHumzm
1 s t 1921
~ -- The most important letter of the
correspondence is Ferencri's compelling hand-written n i n e
page letter from Budapest on Christmas bay 1921. It is the
heart of the unfolding analytical friendship between
Ferenczi and Groddeck. The letter is exceptional in the
correspondence in its personal exploration and self-
analysis.
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Ferencri-Oroddeck Correspondence Comnentary
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Ferencti-Qtoddeck Correspondence Comentary
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Ferenczi-Groddeck Correspondence Commentary
. .
P=ouutlon of ChLLPbood T r n , u i u u
The Christmas 1921 letter reveals the effects of Ferenczi's
childhood traumas -- specifically the perception o f his
mother as critical and unloving. In it he explores the
psycholog~cal, emotional and physical effects of his
childhood. Fetenczi's emotional account o f hi8 painful
childhood is critical to an understanding of his motivation
to challenge psychoanalysis. Using Groddeck a8 a sounding-
board and a kind of analyst, Ferencri attempted to work
through his early traumas and integrate them into h i s
evolving ideas on theory and practice. Re struggled to find
answers to his own childhood "terrorism of suffering"
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Ferenczi-Groddeck Correspondence Commentary
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brencti-Groddeck Correspondence Corrmentary
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Ferenczi-droddeek Correspondence Cornentarry
s
Ferenczi attempted to repair his childhood wounds by seeking
a healing-loving relationship in which he could honestly and
completely express himself. To counteract his childhood
suppression o f feelings and development of a "false self" he
strongly desired to reveal his true self with another
person.
ts t o reveal f u e l f "
Throughout his life Ferencsi was driven to "reveal" himself
-- in his relationship and analysis with Freud, in his
friendship with Oroddeck, and finally in his mutual analysis
with Severn. Ferenczi's longstanding desire for mutuality
and equality in his relationships, including the analytical,
led to this extreme experiment of "mutual analysis" in which
he recognized his subjectivity and countertransference as
analyst, and came to view extreme objectivity (framed as
neutrality, the blank screen, etc.) by the analyst in
classical analysis as abusive (Ferenczi, 1932, 1933).
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Ferenczi-broddeck Correspondence Comanentary
u,
Ferencri described Elizabeth Sevetn ("R.N.") in
similar terms, He found Severn, who reminded him of his
overly s t e m mother, to be unpleasant and admitted being
anxious and in awe of her. Ferencri wrote: "[She had]
excessive independence and self-a8surance, [and] inmenrely
strong wil lpower" ( p . 97) and later, "I have retained from my
childhood a apecafic anxiety w i t h regard to strong females
of her kindw ( p . 9 9 ) .
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Ferenczi-Groddeck Correspondence Comentary
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Ferenczi-Gtoddeck Correspondence Comnentary
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Perencti-Groddeck Correspondence Commentary
wv
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Ferenczi-Gtoddeck Correspondence Commentary
Through his analysis with Freud (and his work with his own
patients), Ferenczi came to realize that in order to avoid a
repetition of his trauma, he desired an equal and mutual
relationship in which the other would also reveal himself.
His self-disclosure as an analyst was probably an attempt to
rebalance the power in the analytical situation.
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Ferenczi-Groddeck Correspondence Commentary
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Ferenczi-Groddeck Correspondence
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Perenczi-Groddeck Correspondence Comnentaty
Groddeck is o f t e n r e f e r r e d t o a s t h e Y a t h e r of
psychosomatic medicinegt and w e a r e t a n t a l i z e d by t h e
i n t e l l i g e n c e , freshness and r e b e l l i o u s n e r s of t h e bits of
Groddeck we do have. His few l e t t e r s are b e t t e r w r i t t e n
and, i n many ways, more i n t e r e s t i n g t h a n F e r e n c z i ' s , but
while Groddeck produced rich ideas, by 1925, Freud observed
what he saw as Groddeck's l i m i t a t i o n -- a f a t a l flaw. Freud
wrote t o Ferencsi t h a t : "[Groddeck was] not t h e man t o
complete an ideagt (Freud-Ferencri, 1 December 1 9 2 5 ,
unpublished). Freud was probably right ; Groddeck was not
p a r t i c u l a r l y i n t e r e s t e d i n completion and would rather leave
his playful, c h a s t i s i n g sparks of ideas f o r o t h e r s t o
elaborate.
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Fercnczi-Groddeck Correspondence Comnent ary
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Ferencri-broddeck Correspondence Comeatarty
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Roustang (1982) cast Groddeck's charge to confront the
mother as a profound challenge to the foundations of
psychoanalysis:
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Ferencsi-Groddeck Correspondence Conmnentary
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Perencei-Groddeck Correspondence Commentary
In m,
Ferenczi expounds an almost cosmic theory, that
"the whole of life is determined by a tendency to return to
the womb, equating the process of birth with the
phylogenetic transition of animal life from water t o land,
and linking coitus to the idea of 'thalassal regression: the
longing for the sea-life from which man emerged in primeval
times'" (B-).
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Ferencti-Groddeck Correspondence Cormentary
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Ferencsi-Oroddeck Correspondence
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Ferencsi-Oroddeck Correspondence Comentary
aroddeck may not have been the "right man for the completion
of an idea" (Freud, see above), but his great contribution
may have been to "remother" Perenczi, and possibly to
inspire Fetenczi's courage to follow his creative instincts.
One might speculate that without Groddeck there may have
been 09 1ate1; Ferenczi raising challenges to Freud and
pushing the frontiers of psychoanalysis.
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Ferencai-Groddeck Correspondence Commentary
ZmuaSA
A key to the deeper bodily Ferenczi may be found in his
inspired and imaginative work, Ipbalp,=p. A1 l his symptoms
at that time could be seen as metaphors of the evolutionary
movement from sea to land, and how this specifically related
to his & writing his genital theory book: the
complications and attention paid to his difficulty in
breathing, to heat and cold, to sleep outside the womb of
the oceanic, and to his blood problems.
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Ferencsi-Oroddeck Correspondence Comnentary
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Ferenczi-Groddeck Correspondence Commentary
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Ferencsi-Oroddeck Correspondence Comnentary
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Ferenczi-Groddeck Correspondence Comnentary
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Ferenczi-Oroddeck Correspondence Commentary
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Ferenczi-Oraddeck Correspondence Conclusion
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3 3
lP2L ( 6 )
26 A p r i l ** New letter
17 August
24 "
27 February
2 May
8 *'
9 May ** New letter
8 July
11 October
12 November
11 December
19 February
4 May *CARD*
9 June
5 August
20 " ** New Letter
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Ferenczi-Groddeck Correspondence Chronol ogy
16 September *CARDI
8 October
2s tw
18 A p r i l
26 July *CARD*
6 December
u(6)
7 January
26 June
26 J u l y
30 August
13 October
u 2 z (2)
26 April
25 October
(2)
27 July
17 October
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Ferenczi-Groddeck Correspondence Chronology
12 February
7 July
16 August *New Ferencri postscript*
28 October
15 June
21 December
10 October
17 " *CARD* (Gizella writes on card)
21 "
26 " *CARD* ( G i r d l a writes on card)
3 November
19 February
( t o Girella)
ZQzZL:
Ferencsi: 53 l e t t e r s & cards Groddeck: 3 letters
(To Gisella: 1 letter)
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-1 (To Otoddecks) (4)
(to date):
A 8 well:
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Ferencti-Oroddeck Correspondence Note on Method
.
r v : F e r e n u m e c k writintlp.
. .
a) Perenczivs executor, Paris analyst Dr. Judith
Dupont, made available unpublished materials -- letters and
papers -- from the Ferenczi Archive. She has also acted as
consultant for the project.
b) The Groddeck Society (Frankfurt) -- Groddeckvs
estate executors -- has supported my research and provided
access to archival materials.
Elan=
Ferenczi Estate Archive, Paris.
8WfTZERLAIPD
Balint Archive, Dept.Psychiatry, University of Geneva.
HUNGARX
Semelweis Library/Archives, Budapest.
Psychology Institute, Hugarian Academy of Sciences.
Archives, Sandor Ferenczi Society, Budapest.
Hungarian National Archives, Budapest.
Archives, Kiscelli Photo Museum, Budapest.
Budapest City Archives.
AOSTRfa
Werkstatt fur Gesellschafts-und Psychoanalyse, Vienna.
c:
The Freud-Ferencsi Correspondence editors: Prof. Andre
Haynal, Supetvisot, (Head, Dept. Psychiatry, University of
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Perenczi-6roddeck Correspondence Note on Method
g
MS. Beate Schuh (Frankfurt), Secretary, Geosg Groddeck
Gesellschaft (Society); b e . Margareta Honegger (Zurich) --
Groddeck's personal secretary and executor for over fifty
years; Otto Jagersberg (Baden-Baden) -- Groddeck Archivist;
Dr. Herbert Will (Munich) -- Groddeck biographer.
.
lstorv of Me- .
Prof. Edward Shorter (University of Toronto) -- has
contextualized Groddeck and his sanitotium treatment
methods.
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Ferenczi-Groddeck Correspondence References
C. t o P f l v c h o . n a l ~ s i s . Trans. E.
Jones, London: Hogarth Press, 1952. American ed.,
.
New Pork: Basic Books,
1950. Reprinted London: Karnac Books, 1980.
LC. Y S ~ Compiled
.
by J. Riekman. Trans. J. Suttie, st al. London:
Hogarth Press, 1926 (2nd ed., 1950). Reprinted
London: Karnac Books, 1980.
Fin. butions t o the P r w and M e t - of
. Ed.
M. Balint. Trans. E. Mosbacher
et a1. London: Hogarth Press/New fork: Basic Books,
1955. Reprinted London: Karnac Books, 1980.
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Fsrencti-Oroddeck Correapandence References
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Ferenczi-Groddeck Correspondence References
-Dupont
( 1 9 3 2 ) . The CLipjcal D i ~ r vof S w a r P e r u , ad. J .
(trans. M. Balint & 19.2. Jackson). Cambridge,
MA: Harvard University Press, 1988. (Originally
published as Jo-1 C l i & c ~ u ~Paris:
~ Payot, 1 9 8 5 ) .
( 1 9 3 3 ) . Confusion of tongues between adults and the
c h i l d . eig. 156-167.
- Rollos,
b 1. (1922). pnvc-lvsip
ders of General P - a l v n i ~
and the M
of t h e m.
u
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Ferenczi-Groddeck Correspondence References
GRODDECK'S WRITINGS
-(1913).de y p d ~k r dhea t u r a
w e c u
m d
s w t . m w curat): D w
. (The Bealthy and sick
person). Leiprig: S.Hirze1. Untranslated.
-w.
(1921a). Qsr SednEinPsvchoPn.lvtische~
(The Soulsearcher: A Psychoanalytic Novel).
Vienna/Leiprig: Internationaler Psychoanalytischar
Verlag.
(192lb). On paychoanalyting the organic in human
beings. (Uber die psychoanalytische behandlung
ocganischer krankheiten). Jnt. Z e i t n o b i f t f u
P ~ v c h e 7,:252-263.
- (1923.). The Rook of t h e It. (Das Buch vom Es). London:
V i s i o n Press, 1950/New Pork: Vintage 1961. Originally
published Vienna/Leipzig: Intetnationaler
Psychoanalytischer Verlag, 1923.
( 1 9 2 3 b ) . Die flucht in die philosophie. (The flight
into philosophy). Jnt. J . of Psv-., 4:373.
( 1 9 2 5 ) . Freud, "the It" and psychoanalysis. Die Archa
1:lO. Reprinted in p s v c h ~ v t i p b eS c k i f t e n z ~ f
* v c b o . r o w (Psychoanalytic Papers on ~sychomatics),
ed. G. Claussen. Weisbaden: Limes Verlag, 1964.
(1929). Psychical treatment of organic disease.
So-1 of M W . 1 Psvchplaqy, 9(ll) :179-186.
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Ferencsi-Groddeck Correspondence References
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Ferenczi-Groddeck Correspondence References
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Ferenczi-Oroddeck Correspondence References
o ~ :1-20.
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Perenczi-Oroddeck Correspondence References
e ~ . Routledge.
Quinn, 8 . (1988). 8 :
The -Kamu
W n r y . New York: Addison-Weal ey .
Rado, 8. (1927). Daa problem d e t melancholia. I p L ,
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Ferenczi-Groddeck Correspondence References
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Ferenczi-Groddeck Corre~poadence References
Freud-Ferenczi Letters
Fereoczi-Rank Letters (Rank Papers-Columbia U n i v e r s i t y )
M. Severn Letters
British Psycho-Analytical S o c i e t y papers
-Perenczi-Jones Correspondence
Balint Archive papers
Oroddeck Sanitarium guestbook
Otoddeck Society papers
Oroddeck Archive (managed by Groddeck Gesellschaft,
Frankfurt)
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