IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE CITY OF ST.

LOUIS
STATE OF MISSOURI
Honorable Rex M. Burlison, Judge

STATE OF MISSOURI, )
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Plaintiff, )
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vs. ) Cause No. 1822-CR00642
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ERIC GREITENS, )
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Defendant. )

TRANSCRIPT OF CONFIDENTIAL PROCEEDINGS

HELD IN CHAMBERS
UNSEALED BY COURT ORDER
April 12, 2018

MS. KIMBERLY GARDNER

HON. ROBERT DIERKER
MR. ROBERT STEELE
Circuit Attorney's Office
1114 Market Street
St. Louis, MO 63101
on behalf of the State of Missouri;
MR. JAMES BENNETT MR. SCOTT ROSENBLUM
MR. JAMES MARTIN Rosenblum Schwartz & Fry
MR. EDWARD DOWD 120 S. Central Ave. #130
MS. MICHELLE NASSER St. Louis, MO 63105
DOWD BENNETT LLP
7733 Forsyth Blvd. #1900
St. Louis, MO 63105
on behalf of the Defendant.

JENNIFER A. DUNN, RPR, CCR #485

OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER
CITY OF ST. LOUIS CIRCUIT COURT
TWENTY-SECOND JUDICIAL CIRCUIT
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2 chambers:)
3 THE COURT: We're in chambers. Cause
4 1822-CR00642, State of Missouri versus Eric Greitens.
5 The Court has recessed the hearing that was being
6 conducted in open court. Mr. Pedersen's here from the legal
7 staff, I believe most everyone knows him.
8 With the allegations that have been made in open
9 court and with the preliminary documents and argument in
10 support of those allegations, I feel it's incumbent upon me,
11 before the State put anything further on the record, to
12 advise Ms. Gardner and that any further reference is going
13 to be under oath and that, Ms. Gardner, unfortunately, I
14 need to advise you that you have the right to have an
15 attorney, to consider the advice of an attorney.
16 The allegations that I'm referring to is that in
17 documents and argument it seems that you were in the room
18 when the basis of the defendant's allegations of subornation
19 of perjury were made, and I don't take that as true. What
20 I'm taking that as it's a severe enough allegation that I
21 felt it was incumbent upon me to recess and make sure that
22 there was a record before anything further was said and
23 that's what I'm doing right now. Do you understand that?
24 MS. GARDNER: Yes, I do.
25 THE COURT: Mr. Steele, there's also been
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1 allegations of perjury by Mr. Tisaby. I'm not sure, and Mr.

2 Pedersen's going to have to help me, I'm not sure what my
3 authority is at this point, as far as investigation of that
4 allegation, whether your office will need to conduct that
5 investigation or make sure that that investigation is
6 handled with regard to the criminal perjury that has been
7 alleged.
8 So I don't need an answer on that at this point,
9 but that is another basis of this recess is that there's a
10 prima facie showing here there may have been criminal
11 perjury and who investigates that needs to be determined.
12 Okay?
13 MR. STEELE: Yes, your Honor.
14 THE COURT: So, frankly, I don't know where
15 to go from here as far as when to reopen this hearing. Do
16 you have any requests? I felt that, I don't know -- didn't
17 know the extent of, Ms. Gardner, your office's knowledge of
18 what was going to be presented today, but I felt that you're
19 entitled to -- I felt it may have been somewhat -- the
20 extent of the allegations may have been somewhat of a
21 surprise, and I felt that it would be fair that you had time
22 to respond to it and time to respond to it based on the
23 admonition that I've put in the record.
24 So I'll take a suggestion from your office as to
25 when we complete this -- the rest of this hearing.
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1 MR. DIERKER: Could we have a few minutes to

2 huddle, your Honor?
3 THE COURT: Sure.
4 (Discussion off the record.)
5 THE COURT: We're back on the record. Chief,
6 were you --
7 MR. DIERKER: I think it's our request, your
8 Honor, that we go back out in open court on the record, and
9 Mr. Steele and Ms. Gardner would like to address the Court.
10 THE COURT: Very well. Okay.
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1 CERTIFICATE
2 I, Jennifer A. Dunn, Registered Professional
3 Reporter and Certified Court Reporter, do hereby certify
4 that I am an official court reporter for the Circuit Court
5 of the City of St. Louis; that on April 12, 2018, I was
6 present and reported all the proceedings had in the case of
7 STATE OF MISSOURI, Plaintiff, vs. ERIC GREITENS, Defendant,
8 Cause No. 1822-CR00642.
9 I further certify that the foregoing pages
10 contain a true and accurate reproduction of the proceedings.
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