REFUTATION

Difficult Decisions For

Engineer ‘’Ali: Mirza:
First Difficult Decision
HUSAM

Some BELIEFS OF THE ENGINEER OF JHELUM DO CONTRADICT ON AN OTHER EITHER DIRECTLY OR IN

DIRECTLY. SOME TIME IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE ENGINEER TO SELECT ONE AND REJECT THE
OTHER. In a series of such difficult decisions one shall see the problems of this new heretic from the
City of Jhelum [Panja:b].
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Miscellaneous Difficult Decisions

For Engineer ‘’Ali: Mirza: Of Jhelum
First Difficult Decision
Engineer ‘’Ali: Mirza: is a heretic and heterodox who claims that he is on the M-nh-j Of ‘Ahlussuunnah
but actually he his on the M-n-h-j OF ‘Ahlul Bid’’ah Vattafarqah.

His system of beliefs and ideas is Inconsistent and he often contradicts himself either directly or
indirectly.

In this case it is proved that it is a very difficult to chose among the two alternatives given below:

1] God/Deity [Whose Proper Noun is ‘ALL-H] Spoke Holy Qur’a:n Intentionally/Voluntarily.

2] Holy Qur’a:n is Associated With God/Deity.

These two beliefs are Mutually Exclusive there fore Enginner of Jhelum cannot accept both of them if he
is rational and logical. Similarly he cannot reject both of the two , if he is rational and logical since these
two are Mutually Exhaustive. Qur’a:n is free from Logical Contradictions and Self Contradictions.

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Proof:

If Holy Qur’a:n is the Divine Spoken Speech then God/Deity did Speak Holy Qur’a:n.

Let it be assumed that God/Deity Speak Holy Qur’a:n Intentionally/Voluntarily.

This implieth that The Divine Act Of Speaking Qur’a:n is Intentional/Voluntary.

If Divine Act Of Speaking Holy Qur’a:n is Intentional/Voluntary then the Speech of Holy Qur’a:n is also
Voluntary/Intentional since Speech is a Term [‘Alh:a:s:il] of the act of Speaking. If an Act hath a Term ,
then if the Act is Intentional/Voluntary the term of the act is also Voluntary/Intentional.

If both the Act Of Speaking Qur’a:n and the Speech of Holy Qur’a:n both are Intentional/Voluntary then
they both are Non Eternal Since it is impossible for any Non Eternal to be bring in Existence
involuntarily /unintentionally by God/Deity.

This implieth that both Act Of Speaking Qur’a:n are Non Eternal.

Since :1] It is impossible that Divine Acts are Involuntary /Unintentional.

2] It is Impossible that any thing that is Unintentional /Involuntary is a Divine Act.

I 3] It is Impossible that any thing that is Non Eternal is Unintentional/Involuntary.

4] It is impossible that any thing that in Involuntary/Unintentional is Not Non Eternal.

So it is implied that both the Holy Qur’a:n Nor the Act of Holy Qur’a:n are Neither Associated With
God/Deity Nor are Inseparable From God/Deity.

One that is Neither Associated Nor Inseparable is Separate From Deity/God, Distinct From God/Deity and
Alien To God/Deity. If they are neither Associated With God/Deity Nor Inseparable From God/Deity and
God/Deity is not a Locus of them.

This implieth that Act Of Speaking Holy Qur’a:m and the Term of the Act of Speaking that is Attribute of
Qur’a:n both are Separate from God/Deity .

[ A term of an Act is one that is directly implied by the Act. In case of Act of Speakin the Attribute of
Speech is directly implied by the Act of Speaking ,so the Attribute of Speech is a Term of the Act of
Speaking].

Engineer ‘’Ali: Mirza: himself believes that God is not a Locus [M-H:-L] of Non
Eternals [ H:-du:th:/H:a:dith:].

If this be accepted then this holder of the Heretic Mind should also accept the
followings as well:-

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1] Nothing Separate From God/Deity [GH:AIRULLAH] is brought in Existence by

God/Deit With Out Divine Will/Intentions.

2] No thing Separate From God/Deity [GH:AIRULLAH] is Eternal.

3] No Eternal is Intentional/Voluntary in Existence.

4] No Non Eternal is Involuntary/ Unintentional In Existence.

5] Deity/God is the Freest of all Agents and All His Acts are by His Free Will/Intention.

5] If an Act is Eternal then it is really an Attribute.

Let it be suppose that Qur’a:n is Associated with God/Deity. As Qur’a:n is Associated With God/Deity
then Qur’a:n is Inseparable From God/Deity and God/Deity is a Locus ‫محﻞ‬

Qur’a:n. This implieth that Qur’a:n is Eternal. If Qur’a:n is Eternal then the Act of Speaking Qur’a:n is also
Eternal. This implieth that both Divine Speech Of Qur’a:n and Divine Act of Speaking Qur’a:n are Eternal.

If they both are Eternal then they are Unintentional /Involuntary. That is they are not in Divine
Will/Intention.

So in the First Case if Engineer of Jhelum believes that Sentences/Verses of Holy Qur’a:n are
Voluntarily /Intentionally Spoken by God/Deity then it is implied that neither Qur’a:n not act of speaking
Qur’a:n nor acts of speaking every Verse/Sentence of Holy Qur’a:n nor act of Speaking Verses/Sentences
of Speech of other Books beside Holy Qur’a:n say Holy Taurah/Torah et cetera are Associated With
God /Deity and Inseparable From Him.

In the Second Case Holy Qur’a:n ,each and every Sentence/Verse of Qur’a;n Speech of Other Books Et
Ce Tera all are Unintentional /Involuntary.

It is impossible to accept that there is a Non Eternal Divine Speech that is Unintentional/Unvoluntary.

So it is a very difficult decision for the ENGINEER OF JHELUM [PAN JA:B] indeed, to select one of the two
MUTUALLY EXCLUSICE AND MUTUALLY EXHAUSTIVE BELIEVES GIVEN BELOW:

1] The Qur’a: Spoken by God/Deity is Associated With God/Deity .

2] Qur’a:n is Spoken By God /Deity Intentionally /Voiluntarily.

Some Closely Related Conundrums for the Most Heretic Mind of

Twenty First Century CE.
Does Engineer ‘’AliL Mirza: believe that When God/Deity Spoke to Mu:sa: [‘’A S] then He Spoke
Unintentionally and Involuntarity?

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Does Engineer of Jhelum believe that when God/Deity said the Commandment to Angels ‘’to perform
Saj-dah’’ (‘-S-J-DU: ) to ‘A:dam then He said the Commandment Unintentionally/Involuntarily.

If these sayings are Eternal then does it mean that God said to Moses Eternally when Moses was Non
Existent in Eternally and when Moses came in Existence this command was there but Moses did not hear
it and then one day Moses heard the Eternal SPEECH . This means that God/Deity did not Spoke to
Moses Intentionally/Voluntarily.

Asha:’’irah AND Matu:ridiah can interpret since they have their respective Hermeneutic Systems .

But Engineer of Jhelum like Zubair ‘’Ali: Zai is an opponent of them.

So THERE IS AN OTHER CONUNDRUM FOR HIM:=

If each and Every Verse of Qur’a:n is Spoken by God/Deity Intentionally/Voluntarily then God/Deity is
Not Locus of ant one of them..

Does the Engineer believe this?

If God/Deity is the Locus of Each and Every Verse of Holy Qur’a:n then none of the verses of Holy Qur’a:n
is Spoken by God/ Deity Intentionally/ Voluntarily.

Does the Engineer believe this?

Let the Engineer Be Asked.

An other Conundrum for the Heretic of Jhelum is as follow:

Are the Abrogated Verses of Holy Qur’a:n once associated With God/Deity then Ceased to be Associated
With God/Deity?

Are the Abrogated Verses continued to be Associated With God/Deity even AFTER they are Abrogated.

Does this not mean that that are Not Abrogated from being associated With Divine Essence?

If so the why they are Abrogated from Divine Book?

Divine Essence is Deity/God and God/Deity/ is the Divine Essence.

The same is called Divinity ,Godhead and Godhood in General unless and otherwise
stated.

The Words God and Deity are the English Translations of ‘’Arabic Word ‘Ila:h. The are
not the translation of the Holy Proper Noun ‘ALL-H.

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To discard a dogma is one thing

ONCE AGAIN IT IS INFORMED THAT PLEASE KEEP IN MIND:

Why we are asking this questions and conundrums , may be answered as follow:

Engineer ‘’Ali: Mirza: declares great scholars of Minority of ‘Ahlussunnah as COMMITTER OF KUFR
on the bases of some Theological Errors. These questions and conundrums may reveal the fact that
Engineer ‘’Ali: Mirza: is a Mu’’t-z-li: minded person and his ‘I’’t-za:l can be unveiled if he attempts to
answer these questions and conundrums. His own beliefs are full of contradictions, inconsistencies

And Absurdities. In this situation Engineer o Jhelum Must accept that his there is some Kufr in his
beliefs ACCORDING TO HIS OWN STANDARD.

DISCLAIMER
A possible allegation:-

Some people who are not the students of Theology and Dialectics may declare that such questions
are Disgrace and Disrespect in Divne Glory. To them it is responded that this is not the case, but if so
then why Engineer of Jhelum is declaring Great Scholars as COMMITER OF KUFR when he himself
does not know that his declaration requires a deep research.

TO THE FOLLOWERS OF THE ENGINEER OF JHELUM

ENGINEER OF JHELUM HIMSELF USE THEOLOGY TO DECLARE SOME GREAT SCHOLARS AS COMMITER OF
KUFR SO THEN ONE MUST INVESTIGATE HIS THEOLOGICAL GROUNDS. THINGS ARE VERY DEEP AND HE
CONSIDERS THEM JUST STICKING ON SURFACE.

DISCLAIMER
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A] THE AUTHOR IS ‘AHLUSSUNNAH . ANY

QUESTION ASKED OR ANY THING STATED
IS JUST TO SHEW THE INCONSISTENCIES
IN THE CULT OF ENGINEER MUH:AMMAD
‘’ALI: MIRZA: OF JHELUM. NO CONJECTURE
CAN BE MADE ABOUT THE BELIEFS OF
THE AUTHOR FROM THE ARTICLES
WRITTEN AGAINST THE ENGINEER OF
JHELUM, ANY CONUNDRUM ASKED , OR
ANY ARGUMENT WHICH IS ACTUALLY
PRESENTED AGAINST THE HERETIC
ENGINNER OF JHELUM.

B]AUTHOR IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY

MEANING OR DISTORTION IN MEANING OR
APPARENT GRAMMATICAL ERROR WHAT
SO EVER.
C] THE AUTHOR IS NOT RESPONSIBLE OF
ANY DISTORTION OF MEANING DUE TO
TYPING ERRORS AND SPELLING ERRORS
COMMITTED BY THE TYPIST.
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D] THE AUTHOR IS NOT RESPONSIBLE

FOR ANY ALLEGATION MADE ON THE
AUTHOR SINCE THIS IS A WORK ON THE
BELIEFS OF ENGINEER OF JHELUM.

TO THE FOLLOWERS OF
THE ENGINEER

The system of the Engineer is the most inconsistent minded person yet like the Great Deceiver rather
Super Deceiver , he attempts to distort the belief of Muslims . His system of thoughts is in inconsistent,
his ideas are self contradicting, his views are paradoxical and his faith is his heresy.

He is most dangerous than an Atheist or a Missionary . So please do not listen to his lectures unless and
otherwise you have thorough knowledge of the subjects he is dealing with. He uses verses of Qur’a:n
and Traditions of H:adi:th: other than their proper meanings. Like Mr. Gh:ula:m ‘Ah:mad Pervez he is a
Master of Distortion.

How many proofs and evidences do you require to be convinced that he is a Heretic
and Heterodox.

Are you still in doubt?

Any How You Are Informed. On the day of Judgement we shall be glad to say that we did informed you.

On that day Engineer’s followers shall not have any way to escape from God/Deity. So please do not be
in them .

THANKS FOR READING THE ARTICLE .

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