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before going LTR. Besides financial burdens this is the biggest reason Women, the most responsible
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knowing. If you can't fix it soft next or plate her. subtle dread game The Light-Switch Effect
can be helpful, with an emphasis on subtle. Do not try to use reason On Value and the Value of Women
or negotiation, do not tell her you see her shit testing. Read, practice 48 Laws of Power Superthread
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Everything you need to know about
tingles and gooey retard mode and the Irrational forebrain: the shit Shit Tests
talking trickle truth mode. When you lead you keep her in the Shit Tests 101
hindmind, when you placate she goes into the forebrain. This is true Comprehensive Guide to Shit Tests
over 2 months or 50 years. You don’t buy unconditional love from Goals - A beginners guide on how to
women with dates and experiences; they are constantly evaluating attain them
your leadership, so you must at all costs keep her in the gooey tingly One Key Step to Not Giving a Fuck
mindset. How To Tease Bitches
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Chances of keeping the the relationship intact: 70%+
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slow drip, and never stop 'dating her' and keeping her emotionally Illimitable Men
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with you but she's not confident it's the right choice and she might
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not have any higher value prospects. She seeks an answer to that
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uncertainly through her most trusted tools: shit testing and sexuality.
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She will NOT come out and say she's thinking this. Stage two looks
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like "You're not a man" "Act more like a man" "You don't make
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enough money" "You need to change jobs/move up the career ladder"
Men's Rights
"You should get out more" “You spend too much time around the
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Rant/Venting
hobby you love]” You will see inconsistent attention to health and
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beauty. You will see inconsistent sex drive. You will see gas lighting,
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fighting, and passive aggressiveness. She might want to travel with
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or without you. This may actually be a time period where she
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seeing each other in the first place. /r/becomeaman
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swallowing your pride in certain situations or being uncomfortable
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because you have to be near her (this will be difficult for some). You A Guide To Not Having Your Nuts
will be asked by friends about the break up, be honest and vague. It Smashed in a Door by a LTR
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will be tempting to fabricate a narrative the puts you in the positive,

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this is a feminine tactic and you are above it; lies will get back to your
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ex and she will use them against you. If she loses the majority of
friendships she will often flip and apologize for shit testing and more.
she will then try to renegotiate and you will be back in the drivers
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seat. Be weary about taking a LTR back at this stage. Only listen to
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the language of her actions.
Stage Four: Monkey Branching
What it looks like: Her actively looking for another guy and/or Looks like there's an uncover
reuniting old relationships. Most men don't see women doing this. British police officer deep inside
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This can go on for weeks, months, or even years while you think the
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sex and most men only think the relationship has had a 'rough spot'.
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Don't. This opens the door for her to manipulate and spin. Say
something to the effect of, "You're not in my league any more" and clear
put all your focus on decoupling your life with her. Even a huge boost
account activity
of your SMV rarely helps because she will have already painted a
weak, castrated, inadequate picture of you in her mind.
Chances of keeping the relationship intact: 2-7%
Hedge your bets: Set lots of concrete plans to stay busy with both
work and socializing. Set up vacations, events, and hangouts with
friends and family (especially male friends) that you can attend so
that when the break up hits the hardest you will have support and a
place to blow off steam constructively. This also serves as a way to
meet new women. Reconnect with old plates. Basically you’re
mirroring her branch swinging behavior but you do it more directly
and amplified.
Stage Five: Cheating and Verbal Break Up
What it looks like: cheating and breaking up.
How to counteract: Absolutely nothing you can do. This is where
many men wake up, they negotiate, they use anger, they shut down,
they submit. It's all a waste of time. She has long since made her
decision and any supplication from you fits into her new narrative that
you are not a strong enough man for her and she made the right
choice.
Chances of keeping the relationship intact: 1-4%
Hedge your bets: Cash in your previous hedges. Did you make them?
Stage Six: Extraction
What it looks like: At this point any interaction she has with you is
purely a play for extraction of resources: temporary hot emotional
sex, validation, friends, money, your time, your skills, career
advancement, pleasure from seeing you hurt. You are now a pure
beta provider in her eyes and any alpha traits you might develop in
this time period are seen with extreme suspicion and dismissed. Most
guys get really screwed at this stage because they are still
emotionally invested. She has long ago emotionally divested and it
comes as big kick in the nuts. Anything in your past that you did for
her is completely forgotten or re-imagined to suit her new narrative.
If you were living in the 9th century and a band of Vikings had raided
your village, disemboweled you and raped her she would need to
emotionally cope with that. She is now stage zero with her new viking
man; he’s the alpha now. This hamstering mechanism still works
today; she now sees you and treats you like every other low value
guy out there. If she has sex with you at this stage it's purely for
extraction. No you can't plate an ex. If she is post wall and aware of it
she may even agree to marry you or have a relationship with you
during the extraction stage! However, you will never be her captain
and she will always be on the hunt to jump ship.
Chances of keeping a genuine relationship intact: 0-1%
Hedge your bets: Go into monk mode if applicable and learn from
your mistakes as a hedge for the next relationship.
Take-aways
You’ll notice that the chances of salvaging a LTR are very low if not
caught early. You'll also notice that women break up and mentally
decouple from their partners long before they verbally acknowledge it
to their partners. This generates an enormous amount of anger from
men because it doesn't follow male rules of conduct. That anger is
misplaced; don't blame women for being women; embrace that they
have different sexual strategies based on evolutionary biology and

move forward. LTR’s are about managing a women’s expectations and
emotional state. This is easier said than done. Notice that as men we
set ourselves up for success by maintaining independence, high
physical health, and broad work and social networks outside of our
sexual partners. You never allow her to dictate the relationship. You
lead she follows and you never allow a deviation of this dynamic.
These stages will be more accurate if:
1) You're not dating an alpha widow, BPD, Dark Triad, or Single
Mother. Yes, this eliminates an enormous amount of women but it's a
big country. Use this video to help ID BPD types. These women
don’t really follow predictable patterns as they normally start and end
relationships at the extraction stage.
2) You have established a foundational male archetype for her to
attach too while you courted her. You maintain it.
3) You have a modicum level of financial knowledge, and career
stability in relation to hers.
4) You have a basic understanding of frame.
5) You have some social capital and you spend time away from her on
your own missions and hobbies.
6) You actually want a LTR not a plate. Don't make the mistake of
moving in or marrying a plate because she's 'comfortable'. Be honest
with yourself.
7) Her notch count isn't astronomical and she still has the ability to
bond strongly. (this is difficult to gauge and should be a high priority
for you to find before a LTR starts).
8) You have long term goals and your highest priority is confidently
working towards them. This is the elephant in the room and women
will quickly move to overt shit testing and end the relationship if you
are not advancing your career in some form or another.
9) You don't attempt to use RP language in discussions with women.
You reduce your impulse to explain and fix women’s problems. Not
everything she complains about is your fault or your problem to fix no
matter how she frames it. Sometimes you just listen.
10) You can subtly keep her away from very high value males and
party girls; she will want to keep herself away from those influences if
you follow the guide and preceding points.
TLDR: Women go through 6 stages of breaking up: subtle shit
testing, overt shit testing, consensus building, monkey branching,
cheating, and extraction. If you want a LTR you need to hedge your
bets and hold frame daily. The process is long because women are
hypergamous; they are always looking for high value males with
more resources, and protection. This long process allows them to
garner those, build social capital, and reverse if need be; it's a flexible
survival strategy that has evolved for eternity but it can be
comprehended, predicted, and contained.
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[–] [deleted] 296 points 2 years ago
Years ago my wife took our children and moved out to a motel room. She called a few days later and asked me if I
had learned my lesson. I replied I didn't know I was being taught a lesson but I sure was enjoying the peace and
solitude around the house. She showed up 20 minutes later and let me have it. After she was done (and I hadn't said
a word while she went off), she asked me if I had anything to say. I told her that if she ever left again, she wouldn't
have the option of coming back. She asked an incredulous "what". I repeated that if she ever left again that she would
not have the option of coming back. I the asked her "is that clear". I received a meek "yes" and was never threatened
with her leaving with the kids again.
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[+] KartagoPill  15 points 2 years ago (7 children)
Fucking nice, brother. Saving this. This should be sidebar material. It perfectly fits all my breakups. If I had this to
read then I might have prevented the last one. I can admit it was my own failure, but dating for most men is like
trying to disarm a bomb blindfolded while someone shouts improper directions. Yes, it's your fault if you fail, but I
don't blame the average guy for failing. It's what we've been trained to do.
That's a great analogy. I might use that.

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[–] Psiden 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'll share with you what I told Jack earlier when he shared this with me. We may read this now and go, like everything
else we read here, "ok this makes sense. I'll keep my head on a swivel and make sure to see these signs when they
show up in my current/next relationship."
That is great and all, but it rarely goes down like that. I saw these signs from my previous relationship (go in my post
history and see the train wreck). But I was naive and too foolishly in love to acknowledge these very problems.
Looking back, I know I purposefully ignored the warning signs and failed to take action because I thought that if I
didn't acknowledge these problems in the relationship, they didn't actually exist. I didn't want to believe that she was
beginning to lose attraction to me and face that reality and change it. I could have countered each of these steps and
possibly saved the relationship, but I was too afraid to face the reality. Like a child, I covered my eyes with my hand
and pretended everything was ok.
So be honest with yourselves guys. If you see this happening in your relationship, act on it RIGHT AWAY. Don't
hesitate, and let go of that ego that tells you that you're such a great guy that this couldn't actually be happening to
you. Don't let a breakup happen to you to realize this as I did.
Best of luck for all you RPers that are in LTRs. It may be fun and easy now - but it never gets easier, you have to get
better.
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[–] MrGoodStuff05 /r/asktrp user
Tell me if I'm wrong but I think to some degree it's not even about ignoring the warning sings so they don't actually
exist. I think the biggest part is how counterproductive all this stuff seems. It's like... would doing this at this stage
really strengthen the relationship? I think once we are in love and in the moment, we have this feeling like doing this
stuff is actually gonna be bad towards the relationship, when in fact it's probably the only thing that could save it.
I think the most important part is to not be afraid to do what you need to do at each stage.
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[–] Psiden
No I think you hit the nail on the head there and that's what is missing from my assessment because I couldn't find
the words to describe that. I had those thoughts in my head throughout where it felt doing those things would do
more harm than good. You've helped me clarify that in my mind. Thank you!

I know exactly what you mean because it happened to me to exactly in that way. It's like, she's backing away,
"oh better start pursuing harder to show her I care" when in reality if I had just backed away it would have
created more attraction and made her come back on her own. But then, at the moment, it's like, I love her, I
gotta go after her, I gotta show her.
Fuck man... all the fucking Hollywood movies fucked up my mating strategy.
[–] Psiden 5 points 2 years ago

We grew up on absent father figures and Disney romances. My logic and TRP tells me to move on
because everything will be alright and this is just a part of life we have to accept; years of social
conditioning is making my emotions think I've lost the love of my life. I fight it, but man... it's rough.
Remembering the Serenity Prayer is getting me through the days.

Agree on that shit. My dad wasn't absent but he was BETA AS FUCK with my mom and abusive
towards me. I think the only reason my mom didn't leave him was because they're from different
times. If my mom grew up in these times she would have left my dad AGES ago. And growing up
under his conditioning, I grew up beta as shit. And his abuse only led me to be a Nice Guy™.... shit
reading NMMNG really woke me up, and I'm only half way through it.
And fuck that shit, go to a music festival and pop some MDMA and you'll never think of that bitch
again.

[–] joshbeoulve
I got cheated on twice by two different long-term relationships and your description of each stage pretty much
describe my experiences to a tee. The subtle put-downs, the constant shit testing, the never-ending compliance
testing, the overt displays of disrespect, long hours spent on social media gathering validation from orbiters, the
eventual hookup with one of their orbiters, all of it.
Hindsight is always 20/20 as they say. I was too naive and blind to recognize these warning signs for what they were.
Never again.
Thanks a lot for this stuff brother. It's all completely eye-opening and puts a lot of my own experiences into
perspective.
[–] ex_addict_bro /r/asktrp user  2 points 2 years ago

+1. Everything happened to me once, in this exact order. Yes, some phases last months up to years. Just like in this
guide.
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[–] 11 PantsonFire1234 /r/theredpill user
None of these stages really matter if your praying to buddah on a daily basis for her to leave. I can guarantee you
that no other method works better for a woman to stay with you- than wishing with every fiber of your being for her
to leave.
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[–] 11 PantsonFire1234 /r/theredpill user  [+1] 27 points 2 years ago

It works like a charm. Probably because your not at all concerned with her, so all focus is on you. That's one. You're
swatting away every shit test because her opinion doesn't matter. That's two. Soft dread is automatically
maintained because she'll wonder why you aren't into your own girlfriend. Strike three.
You're also demonstrating lots of characteristics naturally that women are attracted to- indifference, unbreakable
frame (by her at least), aloofness, stoicism, IDGAF, dominance and amused mastery.
Most importantly is that the more you get annoyed and disappointed by her presence the more push you're giving
off. Forcing her to deploy pull to keep you close, which she will- because you've been demonstrating how high of a
value male you are.
The worst part is that you're giving off zero passive aggressiveness and manipulation in your actions. Which women
are tuned to trace (cause they do it themselves). This makes you appear authentic. Women love authentic unique
guys that are different. Association with a man like that makes her feel special. Imagine that man being her very
own boyfriend- it's pure heroine to her.
She's emotionally invested in you and the more you drift the worse it gets for her. She will remember the beginning
and how fun you were (plate phase) and yearn for a taste of those times. At this point your the only man in the
universe for her. Everything will revolve around keeping you happy, being with you, fucking you- she will be on her
best behavior. Women and irony go well together.
Congratulations, you are no guaranteed for your girlfriend to chase you till the ends of time. Welcome to hell.
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[–] Forcetobereckonedwit /r/asktrp user
Now that I think about it you are totally right. It's a bit like my personal pattern of banging a plate on the side
asap, when settling into a LTR. I do that for my own pathetic beta sappy heartstrings because I know she will
do it to me at some point. That was BTRP of course. It was a beta reaction to my lack of control over her.
Lately I was quite surprised by the reaction of my gf on the way out, when I told her she wasn't acting like a
girlfriend so she wasn't my gf, she wasn't treating me like a bf so I am not her bf. She flared up and said
"Fine, let's break up then." I said "Fine, done". All of a sudden she's tearing up, and she started saying all
kinds of "let's work it out" kind of crap. I maintained my cool, and she kept at it. I pushed, she flipped to
pulling. Fucked up creatures they are. I wish I wasn't so attracted to them. Thanks for the succinct comment.
I'll be using that one daily.
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[–] 11 PantsonFire1234 /r/theredpill user
Just make sure you remember that you need to be okay with them going away. Or even wanting so.
You've had history with plates so you know that there's candy awaiting on the other side.
 1 point 2 years ago

Yah, I'm ok with it. I get oneitus frequently but I've learned... There's always another one around
the corner and if they're not treating you right it's your duty to yourself to move on.

Eventually you will get used to tossing trash away

[–] unicorn-carousel
Heh... I fucking hated most of my last relationship. By the end I was fat and pathetic, and yea we went
through these phases. As soon as I started pulling her (edit: during consensus/possibly branching), she
was 180 and gone. Other comments have joked about using "I love you" as a way to make her run
away, I think it'd work.
[–] JackGetsIt [+91][S] 2 points 2 years ago

This is actually really good. The only fault I see is that if you don't trickle out a little affection it will eventually
break the girl down and she will lose that yearning. It's all about the balance.

That is indeed what you'd be thinking and it hold true in the beginning of dating. But that's exactly the
point, you are giving away perceived affection at this point. You're actually enjoying yourself. It's only
when the relationship starts and you lose interest that you start to exhibit behavior like this.
I do stand corrected, when I said she'll stay with you forever I wasn't correct. She won't because most
women have their breaking point eventually. She'll leave an alpha widowed mess and her 'love' for you
will remain.
What I rather meant was that it will feel as if it's forever because you are encumbered by her presence.
I'd compare the experience to that of going to school. Doesn't matter if it's September, December or
March. Summer always feels a lifetime away. When your in class and you're watching that clock. Every
minute is a torture when you're bored.
That's what you'll experience when your in a relationship without interest. It will feel like forever until
you finally shake the girl. That's the time when summer vacation starts and you get to have freedom
again.
[–] RPsage  1 point 2 years ago

I'm in this situation right now and I completely, absolutely agree with you.

[–] JediSange /r/kotakuinaction user
Why would you pray for something you can do yourself?

[–] 11 PantsonFire1234 /r/theredpill user  [+1] 1 point 2 years ago

Breaking up is awkward, creates drama, makes you look like the bad guy and generally brings unwanted attention.
If the girl breaks up with you things stay generally quiet and you escape with clean hands.

[–] JediSange /r/kotakuinaction user
So the idea is that the bad reputation and personal "feelings" on the matter (e.g. awkward) outweighs in
some way you being in the drivers seat? That whole mind set of caring what other people think of you is beta
as fuck to me. "Oh I can't break up with her because I look like a bad guy". You should break up with
someone that is no longer worth your time.

Your reading into things. It's not about caring what people think, it's reputation management. Breaking
up yourself is a viable option if losing the girl becomes time consuming. The idea also doesn't appear
over night. You will slowly lose interests.
Initially you might dial down hanging out with her and responding to her texts. You're thinking the
relationship would become more bearable if it required less hands on time from your part. Maybe it
becomes more fun like it was in the beginning. Eventually you made up your mind.
Usually takes about 2-4 months to break up or lose her. But lets not pretend we don't like fucking a girl
we no longer care for from time to time. If that wasn't the case exes would never fuck each other post
break up.

[–] njohnson_nj2 /r/theredpill user
Wonderful post, thank you for writing it. Love the subtle point that even her being at the goey hopelessly in love with
you phase "Stage zero" is a stage of the breakup. Every LTR is a breakup waiting to happen and the only thing that
will slow it is a man's stewardship.

[–] VIICHYVALOIS /r/asktrp user
Every LTR is a breakup waiting to happen and the only thing that will slow it is a man's stewardship.
I've asked the question a few times before but I seriously wonder why any RP man enters into a LTR? Marriage has
been beaten to death already, women aren't loyal, and plates fall and break all the time.
We know that a woman can only offer two things, in the purest TRP lens, to a man: sex and passive feminine energy.
So why bother? What's the utility of an LTR?

Call me crazy but I believe women are capable of loyalty and faithfulness. They just aren't the least bit incentivized
at all in our current culture. Following their base instincts are rewarded and lauded in the media. Slut walks, divorce
hand outs, the stigma of calling a women capable of falsifying a rape or attack. These are all the norm. There was a
women in Vermont in 2014 that was caught on video attempting to slice an officers throat. Acquitted with no
charge. The societal narrative about women is so out of wack with reality it's scary. Devlin's epic thesis, Sexual
Utopia in Power, lays the seeds all out right on the side bar. I'll excerpt a bit of it:
The actual outbreak of the sexual revolution occurred when significant numbers of young women began acting
on the new Utopian plan. This seems to have occurred on many college campuses in the nineteen-sixties.
Women who took birth-control pills and committed fornication with any man who caught their fancy claimed they
were liberating themselves from the slavery of marriage. The men, urged by their youthful hormones, frequently
went along with this, but were not as happy about it as they are sometimes represented. Columnist Paul Craig
Roberts recalls: "I was a young professor when it all started and watched a campus turn into a brothel. The male
students were perplexed, even the left-wing ones who had been taught to regard female chastity as oppression.
I still remember the resident Marxist who, high on peyote, came to me to complain that 'nice girls are ruining
themselves.' " This should not be surprising. Most men prefer a virgin bride; this is a genuine aspect of male
erotic desire favoring monogamy, and hence in constant tension with the impulse to seek sexual variety. The
young women, although hardly philosophers, did set forth arguments to justify their behavior...

[–] Thewelshpill
best write up i've read in a while, bravo.

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[–] yummyluckycharms /r/theredpill user  11 points 2 years ago

I've said this before....
Relationships are like vases....once they've taken a tumble, they're broken for good. No matter how much you try and
salvage it, the cracks will always be there. Better to just get a new one.
Women inherently know this and its part of their mating strategy.

[–] Il128 /r/asktrp user
When she is branch swinging the amount of sex can go up. She's hedging her bets and is banging the shit out you and
him.
Also want to note that the stages are not linear...so your LTR may actually skip around. For example I think Monkey
Branching can always happen depending on factors such as SMV and what not.

[–] unmeilleurmoi /r/mgtow user
This is a lot of text for a post that should just say "let her go."

LOL. Thanks for the candor. I'm just a person that likes the analytics of why men and women do what they do (and I
think a lot of guys of red pill are here for that) and I couldn't help but spill out my personal observations. I also want
fellow men to protect themselves, their assets and, if they want them, future families from the fickle nature of
women. I think in a way I was definitely trying to say 'let her go' by using the percentages in my post. To many men
try to salvage an already dead relationship and they get taken to the bank because of it. Redpill is about mitigating
that.
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[–] ecosci
Good post but a man with options and is ready to exit is the answer to hypergamy because everybody gets what they
want, women need to understand its a mans instict to procreate with multiple women and men need to understand
women will hop on the next best guys d*ck if the resources and situation is deemed better and nobody can set up a
blueprint for how nature and attraction works out, there are too many variables.This is way too much info on someone
who will never honor and doesnt have any value besides sex and child bearing, be selfish and demand respect is all
you need.
 [+91][S] 2 points 2 years ago
[–] JackGetsIt
someone who will never honor and doesn't have any value besides sex and child bearing
This is a good point. I think movies and media have convinced men that the right women will be their best friend,
their partner in crime, their intellectual rival, and everything other ridiculous thing under the sun. So men become so
absorbed by their partner that they lose themselves in the relationship. Which is of course a recipe for a women to
take advantage.

[–] ChadThundercockII /r/asktrp user
My go-to strategy since I joined the manosphere is going full beta after the first month or two. The girl starts to hate
me and she goes by herself. It spares me a lot of stress and effort to keep the relationship going. I fuck it up and
"branch swing".
[–] [deleted] 1 point 2 years ago
I like how you go in detail with numbers, 2%-6%.

Why not 2.036%-5.961%?
 [+91][S] 7 points 2 years ago

[–] JackGetsIt
70% of statistics are made up 43% of the time! In all seriousness I was just using the numbers as a way to
communicate that relationship problems need to be fixed sooner rather than later.

It's actually 2.041%- 5.973%. OP was rounding up and down.


[–] foot_odor /r/theredpill user
Depends if you take it from a frequentist or bayesian angle.

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Why would you pray for something you can do yourself?

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I like how you go in detail with numbers, 2%-6%.

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It's actually 2.041%- 5.973%. OP was rounding up and down.

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Depends if you take it from a frequentist or bayesian angle.

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