AM: How did this war affect your views of Muslims?

SS: ​At the time when I left India, in India the Hindus and Muslims, we stayed together I had so
many friends that were Muslims and we felt apart of the same country. Unfortunately because of
the politics in the world, uh and especially with the issue of Kashmir uh the relation between
India and Pakistan were severed and there was always this fight over Kashmir. ​(0:00-0:50)

AM: Indian Air Force

SS: ​Actually what has happened was that when I was in the college I was a cadet of NCC (Indian
air force) and I was in the air wing which was very elite and I tried it and I got in. And as apart of
training which was basically like airforce, they gave us the training to fly and I was the first one
to fly solo from my group. So at that time, the war between India and Pakistan broke and they
were looking for pilots in the Indian Air Force and my … from that agency had to send a list of
potential pilots and my name was the first one on that list and I was told that I may have to join
the Indian air force. ​(0:56-2:10)

AM: Jammu and Kashmir

SS: ​As you know, that Muslims and Indians lived together and they were the same country and
British was controlling us and we were considered slaves of Britain and Indians were considered
at second-class citizens. … that caused a lot of Indian people to revolt and… Gandhi was the
one that had the nonviolence and brought everyone together and then the British realized there
was no point in staying there anymore but what they did was while ruling they divided the
country into 2 - India and Pakistan. They said all Muslims should be in Pakistan, Indians should
be in India. When that was declared, all Indians started to move from Pakistan to India and a lot
of Muslims tried to go the other way and there was a lot of clashes and a lot of violence and that
was a bloody thing that happened. ​(3:47~5:38)