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Surely, you have noticed that your - Where do you want to be in the next
career is always changing. Any couple of years? Be realistic and
professional who started working in precise. Something like becoming
the last couple of decades is aware of an established Product person in
this. Every few years (for some, it’s the field of FinTech, for example,
just a matter of months!), you could would be a good one. If you perceive
switch company. Sometimes you even yourself as a product, with various
switch function, department, or features and services, it will be
profession.
easier for you to identify possible
gaps.
Of course, “tech” is the reason: the
more connected we are, the quicker - Training to fill these gaps should
technology makes some careers take you closer to the product
obsolete and others promising. arena, and the movers and shakers
who decide on hires. But never
Seeing that you will have to switch at accept less than what you expected.
some point, your best bet is to choose You should work on products
a path that is adaptable by definition. you’re excited about! Some Product
Product Management is one of the Management techniques, such as
most versatile disciplines out there. roadmapping, can assist you in your
This is because its core skills (technical endeavor. Of course, adding KPIs to
expertise, stakeholder
your goals might be exaggerating, but
management, commercial awareness) it is very useful to define your steps
are fully transferable. on a single document.
- Developing a public profile is not It is precisely from these latter
fundamental. But, when you are positions that many Product Managers
getting started in the scene, it can help have emerged. But it is not a path as
you a lot. Certain social media tools are direct as many believe. In fact, pay
particularly useful: microblogging attention to this advice to avoid the
( Tw i t t e r ) , l o n g - fo r m a r t i c l e s common pitfalls that block you from
(Medium), podcasting… Remember, overcoming selection processes.
PMs are keen communicators. Your
continued engagement with product
Engineers to Product
communities, such as the Product
School Slack Community, will help Managers
you “learn the language” of your
favorite companies. Who knows: you Beginning with engineers, it is true
might even meet an eventual that employers trust they will have
recruiter! what it takes to assume the role.
However, their familiarity with
Now, let’s look at actual examples of building and maintaining digital
successful transitions to extract some frameworks does not guarantee
useful wisdom. success.
There are some other well-traveled But there are many differences;
paths to product. Entrepreneurship particularly the ones connected to the
is, of course, a common point of “negative” stereotypes associated with
departure. If you have been involved
consultants. Product Management is
in setting up your own business in the not a “Boy’s Club”, riddled with office
past, you are familiar with many of politics and lacking transparency.
the challenges that product involves. Rather, it is a role where you have to
delegate and build up your team. No
Certainly, not all founders and CEOs silos are allowed!
have the same degree of involvement.
But many have started projects at
There are even more distinctions
university or other environments below the surface. Not all offices in
which included many challenging tech are cool, open and colourful
stages that mirror the product spaces that encourage creativity; but
roadmap. Everything from conception, they are definitely a step above the
usual cubicles that populate large If you occupy any of these, your way
consultancies. Relationships are to product is clear. What about other
different, probably of a more informal backgrounds?
character.
Unconventional Choices,
Depending on your former role, it
was possible that you were used to Product Successes
dealing with clients and then your
office colleagues in a very hierarchical There are so many ways of making it
way. No more: Product Managers are to product that even more heterodox
in the middle of a storm, and need to background can undertake the
treat any stakeholder as a possible transition. We have collected some
saviour. They are on a more equal notable experiences across the years
footing with everybody, which can be that should inspire you.
good and bad.
Ryan Cunningham is Product Strategist
In terms of approaching tasks, & Operations at Uber Elevate, the
consultants usually look at the bigger company’s current venture into air
picture. PMs are the opposite: details transport. But he actually began as
matter a lot. Business Analyst and Chief Investment
Officer at different financial bodies.
Also, agility is fundamental: Coming from finance, how did he get
depending on projects, consultants to a top Product Management position
can count on medium-term time at one of the leading tech companies?
windows. This ends the moment you
join product! All in all, consulting is Tech, thanks to the promise of
good training, but keep in mind that financial apps and solutions, has
in exchange of more autonomy you slowly become more welcome to
will be losing a lot of direction. You finance backgrounds. In fact, there
need to build your own vision. are many across banks and funds who
would like to enjoy the autonomy and
Which other positions surround creativity that a Product Manager
product? Business Analysts and position can offer.
Project Managers have similar
transitions to consultants. Product According to Ryan, those who
Marketing Managers are similar to consider the jump have the right
general marketers, and Product intuition. A Product Manager’s main
Designers to overall designers. goal is to make a solution happen
which can provide value and usability from various sources, running
to consumers. While you can always simulations, staying up to date with
learn tools and design skills, an innate sectors relevant to your investment
business sense is more difficult to portfolio… A techie simply has had no
train. And, by working with numbers, time to develop the same sound
you are showing that you are quite knowledge of various industries, and
comfortable among spreadsheets and this you should show and highlight
quarterly reports. during an eventual interview.
Next, neither data nor statistics are Let’s check out another, even more,
strangers to you: they are your main unconventional profile. Jason Robert
tools! And the fact that you have dealt Trikakis is the co-founder of HelloSugoi,
with something as sensitive as a blockchain-based ticketing system.
personal or business investments But he started in music production!
implies that you know how to build a
story with them for your clients. Is After writing and producing music for
this not the same as the type of tales bands and different media, Jason
you must build to increase your realized he wanted to do something
influence over stakeholders? else with his life. But traditional paths
tend to be expensive: from law school
Equally, you are more than comfortable to business school, all options are a bit
with tight and conflicting deadlines. out of reach for the many. It was after
With digital products, launch dates do assessing his traits and preferences
not mean anything: features are in that he figured out that Product
constant iteration and review. Management was a suitable career
path.
Competent product management
implies juggling different time Coding was his entry drug: Python,
requirements by external and internal HTML, CSS, and JavaScript led him to
stakeholders. Flexibility through know enough to understand engineer-
sprints and careful planning with your talk. In fact, once you begin learning,
team are essential requirements to you start joining. Because most of the
avoid fatal mistakes. Sounds familiar? available workshops are actually
Yeah, exactly like the world of money. delivered in groups. Look around: it is
almost certain that there will be some
Finally, a banking business acumen is sort of tech community around you
simply unparalleled. Think back to that delivers lessons or at least meets
the countless hours gathering data with a certain frequency. Jason
actually found out about PMing different disciplines is simple. Staying
through these! Something that you up to date with industry tendencies
will read across this guide over and and the surrounding community is
over again (and this is trying to spell fundamental. Join a group, such as
in capital letters) is that almost the weekly events we host.
anyone can become a Product
Manager. As long as you have people As you get inspired, you should start
skills, intellectual curiosity, some building things on your own. Even
degree of creativity and a forward- small add-ons to existing products
looking perspective; you can make it should help. If learning code is
in product. necessary, take it as a productive
challenge!
A word of advice: not everyone in
music, or film, or book production
No Such Thing as a Straight
will be as dynamic as Jason. In his role
as a company founder, he was Line
practically in charge of everything:
making the music, promoting it, As you can see from these examples,
addressing clients’ concerns, booking Product Management is a discipline
venues… This type of exposure to o p e n t o e ve r yb o dy . We l l , n o t
what constitutes managing a product everybody: to those who are willing to
is something you need to experience put in the work.
before launching into tech from a
different professional arena. People with engineering, marketing,
and user design backgrounds are
Jason is also a Product School alum, a halfway there because they have at
member of the first LA cohort. Taking least one of the essential set of skills
a course focused on the real-life for PMs. However, their transition is
challenges that Product Managers no guarantee either.
face, taught by people in the industry,
is one of the most solid avenues into This is why the path is actually open to
product. professionals from other disciplines.
The most important skill to have is
Th e s e t wo e x a m pl e s a r e g r e a t passion for product. Then, there are
inspiration and should help you look some logical steps: make an inventory
horizontally at the advantages that of your current skills, learn how to
other backgrounds might have. All in present them positively, lay out a
all, the best advice for people from career plan, benefit from being close
to certain industries… A path well
planned feels like your own escalator
to success.
Get Hired at Your Dream Company
Former Google PM Luis DeLeon got his Since Luis took the course, he had the
position offered just after graduating chance to conduct the practical
from Product School San Francisco. exercise on an existing product. He
This is why we are in a perfect position picked Sense, a sleep monitoring or
to understand his transition. environment monitoring system to
basically help you sleep better. It was
a good way to apply some of the skills
Prior to making the switch to product
learned during the course.
management, Luis was doing
consulting and product development
for Accenture. As we have seen on the
So, just going through the process of For example, Luis’ team was working
understanding what a product is, and at Google Fiber, an attempt to disrupt
who the key customers are and a market in terms of Internet and TV.
coming up with a new user feature; it You should come up with an equally
is an interesting exercise to prepare ambitious project as a mental exercise,
for a prospective interview. to show the kind of ambition a Google
hiring team would expect.
Whether you join Product School or
take another path, you need to show In terms of how the process goes, it is
that you can work on the execution similar to other tech companies. So
level of things and helping the you go through the normal HR
execution be more efficient. You need interview, you go through your
to have a perspective on what the interview with the hiring manager,
end-to-end product life cycle is and and then more of a Round Robin with
absorb different questions in different different people on the team, and
ways to measure things, measure finally equal subcommittee.
your success by applying those sort of
frameworks or skills in a real-life Luis did tell us that they make you
situation. feel more comfortable than you
expect. It was more like “Tell me
On your resume and in your about a time when this happened” or
interview, you need to show an ability “Tell me you know what would you
for implementing a system and also do in this situation,” so a lot of those
changing processes and defining questions, not a lot of case studies
policies of how people should work questions. It was more about they are
together throughout the product really trying to get to know you it was
definition stage and how they would: a lot more comfortable than the most
interviews.
• How they would implement their
product information Thus, Google favors having a macro
view of the product itself so, making
• How they would manage it sure that you study well how the
department you are going to join fits
• how they would change their process into an overall market. Which role
when things all of a sudden failed in would you seek to play in the actual
the field, or somebody had some sort product lifecycle? Asking follow-up
of support issue or a customer issue questions to the person who is
with the product. interviewing you is something they
love. That is the kind of bravery and benefits, make Facebook one of the
commitment they commend at the most coveted places to work.
big G.
It’s no wonder that it is also one of
In short, you should feel confident to the most competitive places to land a
apply frameworks even at the job. Facebook has its eye out for a
speculative stage, during recruitment. certain type of person that can fit in
So, try to be innovative and try to use with the company culture, share its
those frameworks in other parts of core values and will be dedicated to
your work. Even if you have not had a “bringing the world closer together.”
straight product management position,
I think it is something that you can So how can you snatch yourself one of
apply to other things. these positions in over 60 locations
worldwide and become Facebook’s
Finally, another option is to start a next employee?
conversation with your current
manager. Of course, do not tell them You need to be able to demonstrate
you want to switch companies! But that you have proven product
let them know about your overall management experience. Depending
aims. on which role you are going for
(Product Manager of Advanced
If it goes well, they will basically Ne t wo r k i n g pl a n n i n g , P r o d u c t
create a path for you to get there. Manager of Network Insights, to name
Definitely being open about that or a few), you may need anywhere from 3
having your goals discussed with your to 5 years of experience in a similar
manager to make that transition, is role. For some Product Management
definitely another thing that people roles, they ask for more than 10 years
should do and Google would value. of experience.
You need to be prepared for that. But A great Product Manager should see
also show a keen interest in tasks like the customer in the middle of
customer interviews and usability everything before anything else. A
studies are also as important to on-site sustainable product or product feature
behavioral data. Both are conducted should take the roots from the user
very frequently to support quantitative and the PM should identify it no
data. matter what!
In the case of Orkun, he had both a You should even leave business goals
“coding kitchen” and a business aside when needed. That builds the
background. Understanding the vision! A great PM should also be
customer is a very important element persistent when he or she needs to
for a PM and conveying that message convince others.
to developers is also an absolutely
required skill. It is all about how you position and
equip yourself. Both business and
tech are very valuable to launch and internal, external, direct, indirect,
to drive strong products. partner, channel etc. Some glue is
necessary!
Gaining a 360-degree knowledge, like
Product School’s PM certification, is a In the old Microsoft world, regional
good start. Getting a software leaders were representative of
engineering degree will definitely help customer pain points. Now, regional
you to understand the development leads are involved, however, there is a
process better; but don’t forget, you subset or group of customers that are
won’t really code when you’re a identified and made part of the early
Product Manager. stages of pain point definition, leading
to scope/MVP definition and included
in milestones for feedback in the
Getting a Product Position
product development cycle.
at Microsoft
Earlier Product teams didn’t necessarily
What about Microsoft? Working for this have direct access to the customer. Now
company was the shared dream of a you need to have some people skills.
whole generation that wished to enter
tech. And it still is for a lot of people! However, lack of hard tech skills is not
Senior PM Richa Rai has worked in the always a deal breaker. A lot of times
Digital Transformation department at you do not need any development
Microsoft. She will shed a light on experience. It depends on the team,
candidate requirements for this product and program. What is most
position. important is your curiosity about
technology and your ability to learn
First, the key expectation of a Product and understand technology on the fly.
Manager at Microsoft is to be the
leader (without direct authority of Product Managers are folks who are
course). Bring stakeholders together, not defined by their title but by their
keep leadership informed, highlight approach to their work. Richa always
and resolve issues and risk. Basically, looked for opportunities in whatever
own the success and failure of the role she was: gaps, problems,
product/program. common goals, improvements… This
can organically move you to Product
Different teams use different methods Management.
as there are vast customer segments
that the teams interact with –
Highlight the skills that show how you teams that do not fall under your
bring relevancy to data. Also, how to chain of command, or under your
catch trends in data. What were the management.
unnoticed business problems you
solved through insights that you Interviewed candidates should discuss
brought to the table? Have you how they recognized a problem that
streamlined the dashboards to better everybody else on the team was living
serve your customer? with, how they built a business case,
sold it to management, got it
Tell a story around that. If you prioritized, secured resources and
haven’t done any of these then I managed the delivery and outcome.
would advise you to pick up a Interviewed candidates miss telling
business problem in regards to such a story and they get entangled in
analytics and solve it for them. Take their resume when storytelling is the
that story to your interview. That crux of Product Management.
journey will speak volumes about
you. Ultimately, let Engineers do the work
for which they are hired! As a PM,
Candidates that share a story of you stay curious, trust their expertise
passion, that share how they went out and work with them to build and
of the way to fix something that was a validate different hypotheses to solve
pain point for the customer, how they a problem.
creatively solved the problem, how
they solved the problems that came What Richa learned was that you
along the way, what they were need to draw a line in the sand. As a
thinking throughout, how they walk- PM, you have to be the person to
through a real-life problem, will stand create the rough draft of the vision/
out. road mapping/feature list and give
teams something tangible/real to
The most difficult thing for a noodle and comment on.
Product Manager is to be in the
driving seat but not being the actual Take an idea from the conference
driver. You are the leader without room to the discussion to paper and
direct authority, keeping teams that to a live product. But it all starts with
are under different management your vision. You are the creator. As
aligned for a common goal. Your PM you need to LEAD.
product has a dependency on its
team and likewise, on various other
Getting a Product position and have the ability to drive product
planning, development, and launch.
at LinkedIn
In addition to possessing really good
They say that LinkedIn is the dream communication skills, LinkedIn
employer. They put a lot of time and wants the applicants to understand
effort into each person’s success in the technical subjects and emerging
company and care about everyone’s technologies and their relevance to
well being. They motivate their the marketplace. You should hold a BS
employees to reach their goals and degree in a technology-related field.
they have very few bad managers in
the company. Because the Internet is fast moving
and always changing, LinkedIn wants
The culture within the company is the applicants to understand the most
young, trusting and vibrant, and they recent trends in consumer web usage.
embrace diversity because it’s what They should be experienced in social
makes them unique. media and be informed of the
Internet, emerging web technologies
If that wasn’t enough to reassure you and community building.
to apply for a job at LinkedIn and see
it for yourself, they also hold monthly You should be capable of managing
InDays where they “ encourage their and leading highly cross-functional
employees to explore new ideas, teams and to communicate to both
volunteer for special causes and technical and non-technical audiences
invest in whatever inspires them.” If in a clear manner.
you want to join this awesome and
diverse team, here’s how you can do If on top of everything you’re also
it. passionate with a good sense of
humor, like collaborating and are
First, you must prove previous driven to deliver results go ahead and
experience. Depending on the job you apply for LinkedIn.
want the required experience in a
Product Management or equivalent Obviously, when applying for a job at
role is somewhere between 4 years LinkedIn it is an advantage to be a
(for a Product Manager role) and 10+ LinkedIn user yourself and follow the
years (for a Group Product Manager news and updates related to LinkedIn.
role). Make sure that you are also If you are not a user, then at least do
experienced in building web products your research and find out what their
mission, vision, strategy, culture, and them are qualified to go forward.
values are. However, it is important to know
what to expect before starting the
Here are some examples of interview whole process.
questions at LinkedIn:
The interview process roughly takes
• A/B testing – How would you test 1-3 months. It starts with an online
a LinkedIn feature when you don’t application, then phone screening with
have any data to justify your the recruiter, an interview call with the
decision? hiring Product Manager and finally an
on-site interview with the team
• Acquisition – Describe how would members such as the Engineering
you pitch Microsoft CEO that Manager, Data Science Manager, and
LinkedIn is a good acquisition. Product Managers from various teams.
This last one can take a few hours!
• Experience – What are your two
main product management Because LinkedIn was built for
principles? How would you use professionals to connect, network
your experience in Business to and achieve more in their careers, the
help LinkedIn? (If you have an best thing you can do in terms of
MBA.) resume is to update your LinkedIn
profile. Use it as your resume and
• Improvements – What improvements make it great. Here are a couple of
would you make to the site? How tips on how to do that best:
would you improve the signing
process of LinkedIn? Set a professional looking picture of
yourself
• Insight – What is the LinkedIn
feature that you love? ✓ Fill in your full job history.
To apply for Spotify make sure you They also want people to be curious,
know how to use their main product. hardworking, passionate, compelling
Applicants are expected to be at least storyteller and possess good instincts,
engaged Spotify users or understand as well as a critical mind. They are
the basics of the streaming music always open for ideas and changes so
business. you should have the ability and desire
to truly impact Spotify.
Besides being awesome, the applicants
need to have some previous experience
in product. Depending on the role that
Prepare to discuss these following rule: Keep it simple. Yes, you do want
topics in the interview: to make your resume stand out, but
it’s better that you let the words
• Experience – Talk about the one speak for themselves.
role in your entire career that is
most applicable to this role. Make sure to check out these when
putting the application together:
• Spotify as a product – Give us
real-world examples about our - Don’t hide what you’re capable of
product. and what your best achievements
are. Get to the point and present it
• The media space – Give us real- the way it is.
world examples about the digital
media space. - Make it easy to read. Maybe it’s not
a bad idea to ask your friend read it
• The music industry – Give us real- through before sending it out.
world examples about the music
industry. - Make it look good but put more
effort into the words than the
Spotify receives thousands of resumes a design.
year, and most people put lots of effort
into their applications so if you do not - Leave out the things that are not
hear back from them in a few days it is relevant to the position you’re
okay. They have not forgotten about applying for.
you. Here’s what you can expect from
the interview process.
Getting a Product Position
It takes a couple of months (5+) so be at Airbnb
prepared. Send out an online application
that leads to HR screening(s) over the Airbnb Product Manager Helen Sims
phone. Then, multiple video calls with is also a top Product Management
hiring manager, service delivery lead, instructor. So, she has not just been
peer, and clients. And, finally, the in- on one side of the fence: training
person interview. others to succeed in product is part of
her skillset.
As much fun as it is to come up with
creative and exciting ways to present On the whole, the most important
your resume keep in mind the main traits to show potential interviewers
at Airbnb include leadership, Some of the most common backgrounds
adaptability and a strong product at Airbnb include:
mindset.
• Technical prowess, such as having
When she first knocked at the rental a degree in Computer Science or
platform’s door, she could count on a experience as an engineer.
wealth of experience at gaming
company Zynga. One example you • Being a startup founder.
should follow from her is how she
b e n e fi t e d f r o m t h e c o m p a ny ’ s • Attend business or professional
training program. schools, such as Product School.
Look around where you are working • Transfer from a different but close
now: are there any similar opportunities role in your company.
you could take? This sort of proactivity
is welcome at a dynamic environment Helen, however, advocates for a
like Airbnb. different approach. If you locate a
company or product you simply
The company works like a big product ADORE, just follow your dreams.
community, where business units
actually overlap and cooperate. Product Learn as much as you can about the
Managers are expected to navigate these company (check out the other guides
structures and understand where their on this very same book!) and try to
decisions are impacting other teams. find an entry point: becoming an
influencer, attending conferences,
For instance, one-pagers are a common learning about required skills…
tool to communicate with internal Everything works! Just get closer.
stakeholders whether a new development
will affect their duties. There are also live Take it from Helen. She was really
documents that are constantly updated happy at Zinga, as she had a really
where different teams communicate good understanding of their users
achievements and challenges. (herself being a gamer!). It was later,
when Airbnb slowly became part of
Helen makes an effort to have one-to- her holidays and business trips, that
one lunches with every other PM in the she realized the company’s motto
company, which is an even tastier way (belong anywhere) deeply resonated
of building a cohesive community! with her.
In both cases, she was extremely limits, you might come across as too
passionate and this supported her forward during your interview!
transition from junior to senior
PMing. If you manage to get your foot in the
door, make sure to meet everyone
The great thing is that the PM skillset you encounter; try to learn their
is amazingly easy to transfer between names and motivations. Attempt to
companies and sectors. Picture this: a understand the main thrust behind
professional with business acumen, current projects, and observe with
technical skills and customer attention.
knowledge (which almost feels like a
superpower!). Can you show awareness of the
competition? For companies like
This is not an easy combo to manage! Airbnb, with so many different
In particular, some of the things you services offering rival solutions, it is
should emphasise on your application fundamental that the PM understands
materials and interviews include what they are up against.
communication skills, opportunity
sizing, and customer empathy. But
Getting a Product Position
make sure to show, don’t tell!
at Twitter
When meeting managers at Airbnb,
you should be aware of career The blue bird company is such a
trajectories for PMs. In the first commonplace communication tool
couple of years, you should only with such a simple structure that we
really focus on learning to work often forget those working in the
without supervision; according to background to make it function. It
Helen, most of your projects will have takes a certain kind of approach to
monthly rather than yearly targets. product to be effective without being
too flashy, and this is something an
After that, you will slowly gain aspiring Twitter Product Manager
autonomy and become sole owner. For should take to heart.
the first five years or so, these two
positions, of junior and mid-level Alex Shih used to be Head of Mobile
PMs, are the best platform for later Products at Twitter. His profile is one of
senior and even C-level opportunities. t h e “ c o m m o n a p p r o a c h e s ” we
If you are not aware of timings and mentioned above: a former founder,
with a couple of years of PM experience.
Like Helen Sims, he has been a Product on their toes. The PRD is the
School instructor and understands the beginning of a conversation, aiming
challenges involved with the transition. to build a general direction which the
team can sign up to.
For Alex, the transition took place
inadvertently. He did not even have It goes without saying, to work at
to become a PM as a goal. His aim was Twitter you should be able to show
really to solve important problems: excellent communication skills!
international development, access to
education, providing tools to improve Beware of difficult interview questions.
productivity… Some pitfalls they will ask you about
will cover the prevention of conflict
He first worked on Google Apps, saw between teams.
its potential; and then joined Twitter
international initiatives during Learn a little about avoiding issues
graduate school. As you can see, he like schedules that are too tight;
was able to connect his personal features that cannot actually be
passions to company initiatives, thus implemented; lack of roadmap
m a k i n g h i s a p pl i c a t i o n s s e e m visibility… And expand your selection
genuinely interested in joining a of tools: you might be really used to
particular team. Trello, but what about Jira? Can you
show that you are able to switch
This is something they really valued at between different apps and obtain
the microblogging site. Another skill equally positive results?
that he showed was an ability to draft
impactful Product Requirement One of the benefits of joining a company
Documents (PRDs) How? Well, this size is the amount of training and
everybody in product should act as a resources that you get. Thus, on a
storyteller. Your documents, however prospective application you should
technical they might seem, should explicitly lay out what your expectations
generate a narrative that promotes are in this area: the company should not
your product vision. feel that they are wasting training
materials or improvement opportunities
One of the lessons that Alex learned on anybody!
about PRDs is to avoid proposing a
solution straight away. You need to Alex has continued his commitment
get on well with your engineering to expanding education by becoming
team: make sure that you do not step a product management instructor.
His final advice: read as much as you In fact, their image has always been to
can, but if you can focus on one thing, a deep knowledge of a particular type
focus on knowing users! Who knows, of consumer. Their whole appeal is
with time, maybe someday you will based on looking exciting and new: if
join him and train the next generation you are a PM coming from quieter
of product people. pastures, you might need to work
harder at fleshing out your risky
character. Think of their marketing
Getting a Product Position
material and the way they created
at Apple and dominated the smartphone
market: hustling trumps tradition,
In terms of visual appeal and design, indeed.
Apple is one of the leading companies.
Its key players lie in the physical Depending on the task, you might be
products category, so any aspiring PM part of a slick, small team of daring
worth their salt should show some entrepreneurs. Or, as Apple has
awareness of the differences. grown, you might join a department
that is firmly established. You should
What can an experienced Apple PM be able to navigate both, as both
tell us about the company’s priorities? spirits co-inhabit the half-eaten fruit
giant.
Former Apple Global Brand Manager
Thomas Cho has an exhaustive This applies to everything, according
knowledge of the history of products. to Thomas. Traditionally-minded
From the Ford T to the iPod, each operators at Apple will approach new
innovation has been connected to products from a more process-
social changes and led transformations oriented perspective. Startup-inspired
of their own. Thus, any applicant product people will rather be guided
should know about the company’s by innovation. What is the smallest
history. amount of time and effort I need to put
in to launch this? Can I launch, test
and re-launch when I have results?
An important point is to focus on the
More than process, for this new
coexistence of two souls within Apple:
generation of product leaders Apple is
its original start-up like structure; and
searching for performance-oriented
its current transformation into one of
individuals.
the largest corporations in the world.
Besides, Apple has long-since abandoned the interrelations you notice to
the year-on-year improvement impress your interviewer.
mentality that still plagues some of the
traditional hardware companies. Finally, let’s discuss your philosophical
orientation to product.
They are all in for the kind of disrupting
spirit that startups have brought in the Who would not want to work for
last decade: from revolutionizing Apple? Well, you might be surprised:
transportation, to the world of dating. the emergence of younger, slicker
firms has aged the company really
Secondly, you must know about the quickly. One way to differentiate
interplay between digital and physical yourself in whatever selection process
products. In these times, phenomena you are involved is that you
like ‘unboxing’ videos show us the understand the company’s legacy. It is
marketing and customer engagement based on its origins at the first
rewards for working hard at packaging computer revolution, when these
design. technologies were seriously thought of
as an expansion of human freedoms.
In the past, we have had many
contributors and PMs who have been Things like these might not seem hip
able to live between both worlds. The anymore; however, if you show an
secret? Do not see them as separate alignment with the company’s ethos,
worlds! you are almost certain to make an
impression at later stages in the
Hardware and software, physical and selection process.
digital; they are both to be thought in
conjunction. As an Apple PM, you Keep in mind the startup-big
will be expected to create sustainable company dual soul, the importance of
products that consider this factor physical product and design, and
from the start. having the right mindset; and you
should be on your way to joining
During your interview, it is likely that Apple operations.
you will be asked on how you will
prevent pitfalls that have to do with
asynchronicity. Apple’s generations
of mobile products are closely linked
to their digital forays; make a note of
Getting a Product Position because you cannot simply choose all
use cases or all methods to deliver
at Netflix your preferred strategy. Simplicity is
of the essence!
Netflix has grown from “solving a
problem” (providing films by mail) to Secondly, remember that PMs are not
disrupting the whole media sector. born, but made. You need to unlock
Any PM seeking employment within your growth mindset, apply some
this trendsetting giant will have to discipline and (yes!) be patient.
share the same approach.
There are certain steps you need to
Rohan Thakkar, former PM at Microsoft prioritize.
and Expedia, is Senior Product Manager
at Netflix, with the mission of • First, make sure to acquire as much
“entertaining the world”. That’s a knowledge as you can. There are
strong statement! Let’s dig deeper into many free resources, including
what it takes to join a team like his. bl o g s , e - b o ok s , v i d e o s , a n d
podcasts; which can help you feel
His background is quite diverse but like you belong in the product
firmly centered in tech: from Test world.
Engineer to Program Manager and
finally Product Manager. This journey • Secondly, try something new. Find
has taken him to work in different a relevant project or gig that
departments, and gather many involves identifying a user need
lessons along the way. a n d a t t e m p t i n g t o s olve i t .
Hackathons, for example, are a
First, what is a product personality good opportunity to try this.
suitable for a company like Netflix? You
should have a firm vision, but be ready • Thirdly, network! Utilizing your
to change if evidence changes. community is fundamental to find
Decisiveness and responsibility go a long that special connection that might
way: remember, you are responsible lead you to your favorite company
both for mistakes and successes. (this applies to Netflix or other
companies that you like).
Product Managers will lead to very
diverse teams and are charged with • Finally, prepare, prepare and
identifying and defining opportunities prepare for your interview! Books
within the strategy. This is important like Cracking the PM Interview
and this manual get you ready for But, in between, he ensured that
that scary situation. Make sure to management knew him and the fact
be honest but play up your that he also knew as much as he could
strengths: tell compelling stories, about the products and the customers
absorb the company’s ethos, they were targeting. It is all about
prepare assignments and learn trust!
from your experience.
Secondly, remember that networking
As you can see, Rohan’s advice can towards your favorite company is
help you get a product position in never a bad choice. Kennet first heard
Netflix or any other of your favorite about the offer through a friend who
companies. had previously talked to Slack.
Kenneth Berger, startup advisor, has One of the lessons he learnt is how
the honor of having been Slack’s first quickly initial situations can change.
official Product Manager. As such, he When he first joined the company, it
can tell you a lot about the company, felt like a small startup. Soon, they
what they are looking for and what became popular and, of course,
they would like to see if you became challenges enlarged (along with the
an acting product manager in their rewards!). So, as PM, you should
offices. reassure potential interviewers that
you are ready to accept a challenge
Kenneth actually became a PM for the even if conditions should change
first time by “leaning in”: there was a along the way.
gap in the team after a product
colleague left, and he made a case for Keep this in mind: job titles matter
transitioning into the role. very little. Focus on descriptions, and
you will realize that there are many
more entries into product than you within a company; or network with
thought. It is on you what you make people from other firms.
with the opportunities provided by
Slack or other companies. The vital thing is to do PM tasks, even
if it involves unofficially taking care of
Keep in mind that established operations tasks not strictly pertaining to your
will teach you more about generating role. Changing companies is not
agreements and projecting influence; always necessary.
startups will expose you to a wider
variety of tasks and responsibilities. The final word of advice from Kenneth
is: find your superpower. The easiest
Kenneth also wants you to avoid red way for a PM to boost their profile is to
fl a g s a t p o t e n t i a l i n t e r v i e w s : really find a function where they make
disrespecting other teams is a no-no. a huge difference. Think hard, and
Take ownership of your mistakes, think again, and then invest in making
showing responsibility is more this trait your unique selling point.
important than a making up a stellar You will not regret it!
track record. Interviewers want to
know what type of PM you are, not if
Getting a Product Position
you are good or bad. It’s a matter of
fit! at Salesforce
Plus, constrain your wish to “manage”. Jared Long has been Product Manager
Yes, it is in your job title, but you still at Salesforce for some time. This
work within a hierarchy. Think of company is a really good example of a
yourself as an influencer, a navigator: successful product operation in the
someone who steers the ship but who B2B sphere. Learn how to attract their
must respond to the captain. This can attention.
be difficult, but rewarding all the same!
And it prepares you for management in In the case of Jared, he had a marketing
the long run. background and managed to secure a
position at TripAdvisor as his first
At places like Slack, they do not require exposure to product management. As
an MBA. Backgrounds can be very you know from this guide, marketing
diverse, as long as they show promise. and product are closely connected.
So develop a good relationship with the
product team, if you can transfer However, you should make sure that
your first opportunities afford you the
chance of getting to know other projects for you, though. That will
departments so you can quickly almost always happen.
expand your skill set.
You should also show adeptness to
One surprising feature of his Salesforce data research. This is because you
experience is that quantitative prowess have to learn how to ask the right
or technical skills were not an essential questions, and not be afraid of
requirement to accept the role. Of continuing to ask until you have the
course, spending time side-by-side information you need to make bold
with technical teams you will absorb decisions. In previous roles that are
some of this knowledge. more user-facing, studying up on
design guidelines and case studies
But never feel discouraged but your helped form Jared’s intuition.
difficulty with numbers. Improvising,
learning on the spot; is something Salesforce product teams are structured
that hiring teams value and you around high-level product grouping,
should be able to show during an and then gradually become more
interview. Take it from a Salesforce granular as you get into specific
guy! departments and products within that
department.
One thing about the company is that,
while large, it does not function like Product Managers and Engineering
traditional giants. It has organized Managers will typically work together
teams through scrum to increase to ensure that skills mesh together
efficiency and information sharing. well when assembling a team. So make
Many departments used to be sure that you have prior teamwork
independent companies that were experience with engineers!
absorbed, so showing a welcoming
attitude to diversity and learning You HAVE to know how to work well
from other teams is a good asset. in a team. The interesting thing about
product managers is that you rely on
According to Jared, Salesforce is a the output of people you don’t
company that loves autonomy and directly manage. This means you have
trust. As long as decisions are to be a good communicator.
substantiated, you do pretty much
have free reign to make decisions. Salesforce wants their PMs working
There are always cases where your six months ahead of the current
manager has lined up a couple of development, so they have tons of
processes for reviewing roadmaps, don’t like learning. Just apply to
updating departments on statuses jobs online, or have someone at the
leading up to releases, etc. As an company refer you. That’s the best
individual, they must define why way to get in the door.
they want to move forward with a
project and describe what it is they Salesforce Product Marketing teams are
are trying to achieve. more sales focused and communication
focused. They align the sales teams on
If looking externally, look for the product terminology to use with
associate product manager roles (or customers, which ways to speak with
product manager roles) and network customers, and they also focus on the
via LinkedIn to get your foot in the presentation of information to the
door. When you get to an interview, customers. Product Managers are solely
stress your training in understanding focused on the product lifecycle.
user behavior and understanding the
methods of finding out what user The biggest difference for B2B
pain points are. companies is that you have to work
harder to get in front of your users
What are the dos and don’ts for a PM and understand that the people you
interview? sell to are different than the people
who use your product. They care
• DOS: Research the company, look at about different things.
all of their products, evaluate the
products, know what you like, With enterprise software, there’s also
know what you would change – and typically bigger demand from sales to
have a very good list of reasons for be supported on customer calls, so
why you would make these it’s very important in the enterprise
changes. Ask how they make their that you communicate efficiently
money, understand how much internally so everyone can speak
revenue your product is responsible about the product values the same
for. Be vocal about teamwork, and ways.
you MUST demonstrate knowledge
of who their customer is. These are important because it’s just
like playing telephone, the more
• DON’TS: Say that their product is people between the PM to the user,
perfect. Say that you like working the more likely information is going
alone. Say that you don’t like to get jumbled. You still want to make
talking to customers. Say that you sure the buyers are buying for what
they like, and your customer’s
business sees the benefits they need.
General Tips & Advice
—— Now that you have picked your those things on your resume. You
dream company, we can share with have to start thinking of your resume
you some general tools and techniques as a product. Tools and 1-2 skills
to find a job in product. Make sure to aren’t the right questions.
apply as much advice as you can from
this chapter! The right questions are what is going
to make me stand out among all of the
other Product Managers? Do I have
Treat Your Resume as a
something to highlight? Should I get
Product skills on my own? What features do I
need to add so that it can compete in
Building your resume can be an the marketplace? What research do I
overwhelming task. From the layout, need to do? Recruiters are lazy, make
design, font styles and your list of their job easier.
experiences. What are the most
important factors? Do not worry about lacking some
coding experience. It is possible to get
Shanea King-Roberson used to be a job without a technical background.
Senior Technical Product Manager at Absolutely. But you are competing
eBay, and she advises you to treat with everyone else that also don’t
your resume as a product. Shanea is have a tech background.
currently the Director of Product at
Cloudflare. If you do have a tech background, the
numbers of jobs you qualify for
Before this, she worked at Google from increases. It’s just a numbers game.
2013 to 2017 holding multiple positions Shanea thinks it’s only important if
including Technical Product Manager you want a job at a traditional tech
and Product/Program Manager. company, the Googles and Facebooks
of the world.
According to her, Product Manager
job descriptions are always very Your resume should be tailored
similar, and LinkedIn is just like following the advice above. Get a job
Google search. Check the keywords at the company you want and then
and SEO in a job description and put transition into Product Management.
Build a product and learn to scale. considered waste. The same goes for
Even if it fails to talk about what you Product Manager resumes. Avoid using
learned. Expertise, they need a PM, buzzwords to make yourself or your
you were the best person for the job. statements seem more impressive,
recruiters can see right through that
Remember, your resume is your first and won’t hesitate to discard your
point of contact with a potential resume if there’s ambiguity about your
employer. It is important that you capabilities to perform.
prove that you are ready for a Product
M a n a g e m e n t j ob . No t j u s t b y Finally, use influencers. Customers
presenting valuable experiences, but put more trust in recommendations by
also by applying Product Manager acquaintances than those by brands.
skills when writing your resume. So do recruiters. Send your PM resume
through a current employee of the
According to experienced recruiters company you’re applying to. That
and hiring managers, you only have a way, you won’t be just an anonymous
few seconds to capture their interest applicant. They will associate you with
or be put aside. Think of them as the person you used as a messenger.
Google’s crawler looking for relevance Finally, they might even put up a good
in your resume. Therefore, it is word for you!
important that you find out what
keywords they’re looking for in a PM It seems counter-intuitive that a
resume. This way, you can find and document that receives such a limited
optimize your content accordingly. attention from recruiters requires so
much work from your part. Yet, think
Show that you’re data-driven! As a about it as giving hiring managers the
Product Manager, you are expected to best possible customer experience
make decisions based on data. You with your resume. Everybody wins:
can display your capabilities by they easily find what they want and
quantifying the accomplishments you get a call for an interview.
that you decide to put in your PM
resume. Additionally, this will help
the reader estimate the impact of
your accomplishments.
3. Communication Skills
You may not check all the boxes. No - Learn what to say and not to say if
one ever does! This is where your asked about your favorite product.
passion comes into play. Show them
why you care about the mission of the - Learn how to answer a question
company. Give them examples of about prioritizing features.
things you learned on the job so that
they know you’re coachable and have - Get tools to answer a question about
the ability to learn quickly. Tell them how to run A/B tests.
how you’d go about improving
yourself in the areas that you lack Tips for a job interview:
experience if you were to get this job.
Make sure you have a plan. • Put time into preparing for the
interview to show how committed
Product Management you are.
Think about corner cases and - Buy a domain if you don’t have one
adjustments. Maybe there is an this week. Use sites like Squarespace
important Greek population in San to get a personal website and blog
Francisco; will Greek weddings impact up quickly.
- Add at least 5 blog articles over the - Network with fellow students and
next 5 weeks. in Slack Channels.
Good luck!
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